Episode 96 - Summer Watches

Published on Wed, 26 Aug 2020 23:24:51 -0700

Synopsis

The host Andrew and his friends Will and Everett discuss their favorite summer watches and other topics like TV shows, golf bags, and a useful multi-tool. They talk about the watches they've been wearing a lot during the warm summer months, including the Tudor Black Bay 58, Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical, Victorinox Swiss Army watch, Omega Speedmaster, and EMG Nemo diver. They also mention some honorable mention watches and other summer gear they've been enjoying.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is 1420 The Watch Clicker Podcast with your host, Andrew, and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Everett Everett, fuck off.
Will Will, how are you? Hey, happy to be here.
Andrew Thanks for coming. Thanks for partying. I love when we get all of us together in the same phone call. Yeah, it's good. Shut up. It is good. So how are you, Everett? I can tell you're a little uncomfortable because I normally lead the conversation in the first 45 seconds. Well, usually I don't feel like I hurt your feelings and this time you hurt your feelings. No, it's just it seemed like a good opportunity to pretend I had hurt feelings. Oh, OK. I'm good, man. It's so, so crazy. We were just talking, the three of us, about how crazy work has been. But it's like I'm just having a season, man, where work has been totally insane. The good news is I'm starting to like I'm not getting ahead of the work, but I'm starting to get comfortable with the things. I like, I know what I haven't done yet. So the list of 30 things I've seen them 30 times. And so now I'm feeling like, Oh, okay. Yeah. That's the thing I haven't done. That's fine. Whereas it's not the, it's not the enemy. I don't know.
Will Yeah.
Andrew It's not the whack-a-mole. It's a manageable lineup. It is very much whack-a-mole. Yeah. Every day, 75% of every day is dealing with fires that have popped up that day. That sounds awful. And 25% is dealing with the long list.
Will Yep. That's pretty much my life, too. Instead of Whack-A-Mole, it's a Hydra. I get rid of one problem and I get two more. Yeah, right.
Andrew Just... That also sounds awful. Yeah. I mean, you're the one who gets to turn off your, you know, you punch out and then you're done, right? Or I don't, and then I make more money. Yeah. Well, I mean, same for me, right? That's the good news is when I'm busy, I'm You know, more money, more problems. But yeah, how about you? Well, when you work really hard, you just get paid the same, right? Yep, absolutely.
Will That's a good feeling. No matter how many hours I put in, I am worth the same amount of money.
Andrew I always kind of like that, that feeling, because when I would just fuck off and accomplish nothing for the day, I'm like, man, I made so much money to do nothing today. That's right. And I felt justified in it because there were times where like at the end of the end of the month, I'd be like, oh, I made six dollars an hour. Great. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I went golfing last Friday and I had some stuff, I had a lot of work to do and I did have that feeling of guilt, right? It's like, A, I'm not making money and B, I'm not getting anything done. Self-care, man. It's important. That's true. It's a real thing. Yeah, that's true.
Will And I golfed pretty well. I took two days off, Friday and yesterday, Monday. It just, it was one of those things that just had to be done. I was just burnt out, needed some days. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to get all this watch stuff done because I'm going to have nothing to do. I didn't do any of it. I just, I just enjoyed being lazy.
Andrew Right. Right. You know, I think that there is, there comes a time where, well, I'm pretty good at balancing work life when I'm not super busy at work, but when I'm super busy at work, my, my sort of social or fun responsibilities really take a hit. I lose motivation. Um, to do the extra stuff. So I've got to figure that out at some point. I don't know if there is a figuring that out. I think that's just normal. It's just seasons. I'm cyclical like that too. I'll go through a month, month and a half where I'm real, and nothing changes at work, real productive at home. And then a month, month and a half where I'm useless. If I'm not working, there's no value in me. I don't know. It's just, I need to flatten those. Bring them closer to. Sure.
Will Yeah.
Andrew Whatever.
Will You need to find your chi.
Andrew Yeah. And also towards the end of summer, I get like reverse seasonal affective disorder because I hate summer. I hate it a lot. I hate being hot. I hate being sweaty. And all the things I love happen in the fall. So like come August, I'm just done with it. Bring me September. Bring me football. Bring me hunting. Bring me cold. Let's be done with this part of the year.
Will That's exactly where my wife is at. She is. She's like, I want to put out the fall candles, the wreath on the door, the all the orange stuff. Yeah, she's done with summer. Yeah, no, I get that way.
Andrew And it's I mean, it's the end of August. So this is kind of on par. This is my normal annual cycle. Just burn out on summer. Yep. Burned out.
Will Oh, which reminds me. I keep forgetting to do this. So my wife does listen to the podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. On the. First episode I was on, I think this was before we merged. I'm pretty sure. I said that she watched Gilmore Girls. I have been corrected to the extreme. She does not watch Gilmore Girls. She wanted to make sure that everybody knows that.
Andrew My wife watches Gilmore Girls.
Will It was just the first girly show I came up with and I was way off.
Andrew Apparently very offensive also.
Will She said I should have said something like keeping up with the Kardashians. That's worse.
Andrew I told her, I said, you should have just left it. Gilmore Girls is too plausible, right? It's like, that's too plausible and I don't go for that. I can feel it. I'm pretty sure I came home once and Sam was watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, like in the last several months. Sure. Which I thought was very weird. Yeah, Buffy was good. That was a good show though. Was it? Yeah. I mean, no, it was terrible, but it was good, terrible.
Everett Okay.
Andrew Why the judgment, man? That was a heavy degree of judgment there. I'm just saying if you were to walk in and see it, it'd be like, oh sweet, Muffy's on. Will, we got some website updates. We do.
Will So let's, man, what's the last update we had? I'll just go with the newest thing. We've got the Oris Diver 65 review up. So that was, I've got the full written review and that one also had the video review, so it's on YouTube as well. That was a good one. I had a lot of fun with that watch. I still have it here. I've got to send it back to Oris tomorrow. But that was one of those watches. I think I put it at the end of my review where I said it's one of those watches where I reviewed it and I kind of want to buy it. But the budget definitely doesn't allow for that one right now. It's a super cool watch. I love the font. I know. It's so good. And the crystal distorts it, makes it look even cooler.
Andrew You know, Oris is one of those companies that just always brings it, right? And their designs are a little bit different, and they're not aping anything, and they're sort of outside of the horology conversation, but they just fricking bring it, man.
Will Yeah, yeah, always do. I've enjoyed pretty much everything I've reviewed from them. Moving on from that, Mike did a review on an interesting... I guess just an interesting watch. It was the... I'm gonna murder this name. It's the Beal Blue Union Intrepid Klein Blue. Yeah. He even says in the beginning of the review, that's a bit of a mouthful. It's a cool watch. Just check the review out for nothing else than the pictures because it's a really neat looking watch, a really cool design. Evan Casper, our newest contributor, did an article on gold cased watches. Uh, so definitely check that out. If you, even if you're not in the gold watches, I thought it was pretty interesting. He's going to be doing a followup on that, uh, coming up the next couple of weeks.
Andrew And then we had a, sorry, go ahead. Just, just shortly. You know, I think that that's such an interesting topic because I think it's something a lot of people kind of think about at some point in their journey, right? Like I'd like to get something gold, just to have something gold. Uh, I think it's a tough, it's, it's a tough, uh, entry point because the gold watches that you're going to be able to afford are going to be really hard to. understand. So, you know, I, I hope Evan and Evan's, uh, it's i.cortman on Instagram. If you want to follow him, he's got great, great photographs and he's got a really eclectic collection, but yeah, I really hope that he, uh, when talking about this article with him, you know, we're sort of, how do you, how do you introduce people to watches that you might actually find because they're used watches, right? So it's like a crapshoot, even if you know what you're looking for, being able to find it, it's going to be tricky. So I hope he, uh, follows up on that one.
Will Yeah, yeah, I think he said he's already started writing the follow-up, so it should be a good little series. And then the last thing we had, which I think is the last thing from the last update, which would be the first look at the Montenoble, their new watch. Oh, that's right.
Andrew Yeah, Monta's got a new watch.
Will Yeah, the biggest change I think is, you know, the handset. Every watch that they've released before this has had the sword hands, you know, and this kind of has that, I don't know what you call them, pointed batons, something like that. You know, it's, uh, more, more sticky.
Andrew Yeah. Um, sticks a stick sword.
Will Yeah. And it's, you know, it's going after the saber. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Um, it's going after the, the sport watch, you know, it's kind of dressy, still kind of tool. He's got all the, you know, regular Monta charm with the bracelet and bevels and all that good stuff. So Looks pretty interesting. I'm sure I'll be reviewing one at some point. I don't know when, but I've talked to them about getting one in. So whenever I can get it in, I'll let everybody know what I think.
Andrew You know, I think it's a really interesting decision by Monta to go that direction. I think in my mind that they're fixing a problem that doesn't exist. You know, I thought the Triumph already fit that role really, really well, but obviously they're responding to feedback. You know, Justin talked to us a little bit when he came on the show the last time. I think it was after... Yeah, we did it off-air. We did it off-air and we talked a little bit about it. And so I think they're responding to a consumer demand, but I hesitate to jump on it because I feel like, gosh, you've already got such a great watch in that space. It would be awesome to see, you know, they do such a good job with everything they do I'm sort of wanting them to have done something a little bit more out there, but I can totally understand it from a brand perspective, and obviously they're meeting consumer needs, and it's a fantastic looking watch.
Will Yeah, it's something I've criticized them for a little bit in some of my reviews where I want them to get out of that comfort zone, and I'm sure that some of the things that they did here probably are part of that, but I do think it kind of has in that unique space between the Triumph and the Atlas, because both dials can be a little bit busy. Yeah, that's right. The Atlas being a GMT and the Triumph with both markers and numerals on it. So I think it serves a purpose. I love that blue dial. Just that color alone, it was kind of making me want one. And it's sort of like a fumé dial, right? Yeah. I forget what they call it. But yeah, it's it's a, you know, a gradient kind of blue to dark blue or black on the outer parts of the dial.
Andrew Fumé light, perhaps. Well, well, great. So we're we're already doing it, but we're talking about watches. We've got a little bit of a what would be a good way to describe this? It's a little bit more casual topic than we're used to. More of a discussion than a than a conversation. Yeah. True. A true sort of have a beer and talk about watches episode and well, we really appreciate you joining us for it.
Will Are we going to have to have an argument about the title for SEO purposes?
Andrew And you know, we may have to, we may, we may have to, I think the working title right now is summer watches. I like it. Are you, you're okay with that? Perfect. Yeah. I think Google will like that. Okay. All right. So we, you know, you guys don't know this, right? But we, this is a constant battle between us and the editor in chief over here about what we call our damn episodes. Well, he's smarter than us. It's true. He's smarter than us. Yeah. Uh, indisputably don't get carried away. So, yeah, we're talking about summer watches and instead of, and instead of presenting you guys with watches, um, that you may be able to find on Amazon or whatever. I mean, some of these certainly you could find them, We're talking about the watches in our collection that are actually getting the most play this summer, doing summer things, right? So when I'm thinking about the watches for the selection, I'm thinking, what's been my go-to watch this summer for putting on a t-shirt and my cargo shorts? I don't own cargo shorts. But putting on a t-shirt and some shorts. I own a pair of cargo shorts. Yeah, you're wearing them. No, I'm not. I wear them fishing. They're like swimsuit material. What watches are we going to wear when we're doing summer shit? As we go through, we'll kind of talk about why, even if perhaps we haven't thought about it, why that watch gets the nod. Um, but yeah, so we got six watches to talk about today. We probably better get to it. It's probably more like 12 watches. That's right. That's right. So knowing that, Will, what do you think about leading the way? Because I know you've got an exciting, an exciting watch to talk about. We've talked about it before on the show, but, uh, it's an exciting watch nonetheless. Do you want to lead?
Will Sure. Yeah. So, uh, the first one I picked, uh, is almost the newest watch to my collection, which was the Tudor Black Bay 58 Blue. Yeah, I like it. Blue Bay 58. And this is one of those watches where even though it's a little bit more flashy than something like the Pelagos, which I had before, I wanted to use it as a tool. And I'm not a diver. I'm not certified to go diving, but I had absolutely no problem taking this watch in the pool, getting it wet, getting it dirty, doing stuff outside, going for a run with it on, you know, all the fun stuff that you're going to do outside. and it still looks damn good. You know, so it's, it's kind of hard to say that this watch isn't a fantastic summer watch when you can pretty much do anything you want with it and it's still going to look good.
Andrew So how have you been wearing it by and large? What, what strap have you been wearing it on?
Will So I really liked the bracelet that's on it, but I'm sure we're going to talk about this a little bit more as we go through some of our other picks, but the, Bracelet in general for me in summer on hot days, like super hot days or super humid days just doesn't work. It just turns into a slime bucket. You know, it's, yeah, whether it's loose or tight on my wrist, it's, I just feel like it's sliding all over the place and I got to take it off and, you know, wipe it down with my t-shirt or something. So I've been wearing this on, uh, really two different things. I got the integrated rubber strap from Vanguard. Uh, they make a blue strap that matches the, dial and bezel almost perfectly. I got that pretty much right after I got the watch. And that is perfect for going swimming or getting wet, anything like that, because it's that nice FKM rubber. So it doesn't slide around your wrist, all that stuff. And then the other one is NATO straps. So I think if anybody's heard me talk about straps probably before this summer, I was not a fan of NATO's. I don't know why they just didn't work for me. And then I started putting them on this watch because I had a couple laying around and it completely changed my mind. It was like I needed the right watch to like them.
Andrew Hmm. Do you neuter them? Sure do. That helps. That helps. Cause that's, that's an issue that I've had as much as I like wearing a NATO. I don't like how much taller it makes my watch. You got to find a really specific watch to not have a neutered NATO.
Will Yeah, definitely. And the ones that I've been liking the most are the Crown & Buckle Supreme NATOs, and those you can get pre-neutered from them. They'll trim the second layer off for you, so you don't even have to worry about it.
Andrew How generous. That is in-house gelding services.
Everett Yeah.
Will But I think because it's not a super tall watch in general, that the NATO's not really adding much. Um, and because of the shape of the case back and my wrist, it kind of sinks into my wrist a little bit anyway, so it's not really adding, you know, much. And, uh, just the, the colors, you know, the, the blue and the khaki are kind of perfect for summertime. So I've really been liking them cause you can get them all dirty and whatever, and you just throw them in the dishwasher and they're clean.
Andrew Is that, are you throwing your Nados in the dishwasher? Is that how you're washing those?
Everett Just watch.
Will I could throw it in the dishwasher. I don't know how good that would be for it. Um, but yeah, uh, yeah, if you throw them in the dishwasher, what I do is, uh, on the top rack, like actually loop it and buckle it around a couple of little prongs that stick up.
Andrew Sure. And it comes out nice.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Softens it up a little bit. Smelling fresh. I've just always filled the sink with water and like hand wash them in batches. Yeah, that's what I do too. That's what I do too. But now I may have to try this. I'm going to try the dishwasher. This dishwasher method.
Will If you break your dishwasher, it's not my fault. Right.
Andrew I'd be pretty impressed with a NATO that could break a dishwasher. I think that would be a, I'd write the company and be like, Hey, number one, I'd like a new dishwasher. Number two, here's your new marketing campaigns.
Will I think the concern would be getting it stuck around the agitator or something. Sure. Or call it in a dishwasher, the, you know, the spinny thing.
Andrew Or falling down under the element and melting.
Will Yeah. Uh, we, we seem to be really good at doing that with, um, lids to our kids sippy cups.
Andrew Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, we were, we were missing a spoon that one of ours really liked for, we were just missing it. I think it just vanished. And it was his favorite spoon. Cause you know, every, like when you're introducing food to a kid, they like eat better off of a, off of that one spoon for some reason. And we found it in the dishwasher, like melted around the element. Well, you're not going to have this again, so let's get used to something else. You know, when Betty was an infant, I mean, still today, she still had she had this teddy bear. It's called Didi, and she had it from the time she was born. And Didi was this fluffy pink teddy bear. And Didi is, I should say, this fluffy pink teddy bear. And that was it, man. From the time she could like enunciate sounds, it was like, Didi, I want Didi, I want Didi. And so every night she'd go to bed, she needed Didi. And at some point we realized, gosh, at some point we're going to lose Deedee and it's going to be this huge crisis. And so we bought a second Deedee and we kind of dirtied it up and threw it through the washing machine and got it looking pretty close. And then I remember the night we tried to sub it in and, you know, aesthetically you'd look at the two and like, gosh, they're really close. And she said, I want Deedee. And we handed her the replacement Deedee. The B team. The B team just to sort of like try it out. And she was like, this isn't Deedee. She just fucking knew. What are you talking about? Yes, it is. And she was like, this is not Didi. I need Didi. And we're like, this is Didi. She was like, no, this, you know, this is like an 18 month old kid. And she's like, this is not it, you guys. And so then we, you know, we relented and gave her back actual Didi. But then she knew, right? There's two Didis. She knew you had the fake. And then we had two DDs to control because she was like, well, I'm not going to give up this. I'm not going to give up the adopted kid just because I found my real kid. Yeah, no, I'm taking the freebie. And so then there were two DDs. And as she's gotten older, she's now, you know, she's now going on nine. So it's a less it's a less important part of the night routine, but it's still very much part of it. But she's down to just one DD now. So there's still both of them. They still both exist, but it's still just OG DD. Still the OG. Have you ever been able to wash it? Oh yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. We've been, Dini's been through many puke fests. Yes. She's been washed on a number of occasions. So sorry about that interlude. Will, do you want to do your second watch? I think it would be nice to talk about them together. So, uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your second watch, man?
Will So I had a hard time choosing a number two, uh, but maybe because there's four number twos. Yeah, pretty much. Maybe we'll have time to talk about it later, but as an honorable mention, but part of it's because it's on a honeymoon. But my real number two is the Omega Speedmaster. And I think part of the reason that it is such a good summer watch for me is it was a gift from my wife when we got married. She gave it to me on our wedding day, and we went on our honeymoon immediately after our wedding. We got married in September, so our anniversary is coming up. Um, but we went to, um, Europe and Greece. Uh, so we went to Italy, France, Spain, and Greece on our honeymoon. So, you know, it was warm summertime and I wore that watch everywhere. We went, didn't worry about it, you know, like getting it stolen, any of that kind of stuff. You know, I was like, I'm making some memories with this watch, you know, it was going to happen. Um, so it, it already had that kind of, I don't even know if nostalgia is the right word, but nostalgia of summer. you know, and so when summer rolled around, uh, you know, this year and last year, it was on my wrist a lot during summer. And I kept it on the bracelet, uh, when we were on our honeymoon. But like I said, about bracelets, I started taking it off and using, um, uh, the, Oh God, what do you call them? The Barton elite silicones.
Everett Yeah.
Will Those are really good on the speed master. And yeah, I think it was, I think it was last summer. I picked up the white one, which looks, it just looks really cool on the speed master during summertime. Cause it's that, kind of monochromatic black and white look.
Andrew Yeah, it's got the Stormtrooper look to it.
Will Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's a different kind of summer watch. I'm not gonna go swimming with it. I think you can.
Andrew I think you're pretty good too, but I'm not either.
Will Yeah, I'm not doing it. It's got, you know, for the reasons you just heard, it has too much attached to it in terms of sentimental value for me to, you know, I have other watches I can take in the water. But, you know, it's good for just doing things around the house. You know, you're timing something on the grill, you can just Hit the chronograph and start going. Make it a pizza, same thing. I seem to use it to cook a lot of food, apparently. That's soft-boiled egg timer. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just versatile enough that it's made for doing stuff on the land. Mowing the lawn, I'm not worried about it. That sort of stuff. It's just a really nice kind of, I don't want to say it's a go anywhere, do anything watch, because it isn't. But it's a- It's not, yeah. It's a really good tool watch, is what it is. And it fits in perfect with summer, because it's just got that classic look. It's got the chronograph, you can do anything you want with it. It looks good on just about anything. I did put a couple NATOs on it this summer, and it looked good. So I've started to transmit the NATOs over to other watches now.
Andrew I've seen that speedy NATO on a couple of watches that weren't this speedy. Me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so Speedmaster was actually sort of one of my runner ups for today's conversation because I wear the shit out of that thing. I've had it on a NATO a lot, but I tend to wear the Speedmaster NATO on everything but the Speedmaster. Yeah.
Will I don't like the Speedmaster NATO.
Andrew I feel the same way.
Will And I don't like the Omega NATOs at all. The people rave about them. I really don't like them.
Andrew I don't think the texture's right. There's just something wrong with the texture. And I'm a raver. I'm all in. All in. As long as it's on a Pulsar. As long as it's on a Pulsar, that's right. No, it is for sure amongst my most favorite NATOs. It's in that group, number one ranking all the time. I think the price on those things is ridiculous. I'd never buy one. No. Retail, because you can get, especially now, Blue Shark has a very comparable NATO. You can buy really good NATOs for a third of the price. With that said, it was my first, like, this is it. This is the one NATO. I just love it.
Will What's funny is I kept my NATO in the little bag that it came in. And then this summer when I was like, oh, I like NATO's now, I took it out and I was expecting, you know, this grandiose moment, you know, hallelujah coming down from the heavens. And I put it on, I was like, I don't like it.
Andrew It was so disappointing. It's a let down. It doesn't live up to anything else about that watch. And I think that's maybe my issue with it is. Everything else about that watch is terrific, besides it doesn't look and wear right on my wrist. But then you get the NATO on, you're like, oh, it's just a NATO. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's reasonable. I mean, it's one of those things that what's your expectations? You know, I have a lot of conversations about NATOs because I've got really sort of deeply held convictions about NATO straps. And someday, someday we're going to get the right person on the show to talk about some of those convictions and why I formed them. That's a topic for another day. It's like a Dr. Phil kind of guest. Yes, that's right. With that said, I do really love it. It's one of those things that your mileage may vary, right? I guess. Yeah. I mean, right? Some people are going to love it and other people are not. You and Will are stupid and don't like it, and I'm smart and do like it. We're not tricked by the stamp on it. Yeah, that could be part of it. Yeah, I won't deny it. That's pretty much anything with
Will with watch straps and bracelets. Some people hate bracelets. Some people don't like leather straps, regardless of the season. Some people who like NATOs don't like shiny NATOs. There's different straps for different chaps.
Andrew That was good. I like that.
Will Did you just come up with that? I've been using it for a little while, but it's the first time I've got to say it to other people.
Andrew Your smile indicates a certain level of pride on that. I finally got to say it. It's out in the open now. I saw an Omega sponsorship on the crew that just they just released a documentary on returning to the Titanic and on their full ocean depth submersible. There was a big Omega logo. And I'm wondering if that's one of the places that they tested the full ocean depth Seamaster.
Everett Yeah, it could be.
Will Oh, that that monstrosity. That was my pick for.
Everett Yeah.
Will A couple episodes ago. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. I'm wondering where else would they have been able to test something going three miles down? Yeah, you think it's got to be on some sort of expedition like that, some sort of funded expedition. Yeah.
Will Either that or they just attached it to some long fishing line and dropped it down the Mariana Trench.
Andrew Well, so I, I like will have been really, um, feeling the NATO strap this weekend, uh, or this summer, excuse me. And that's, that has kind of guided my summer where, although one of the watches I'm going to talk about today is not currently or, or all that often on a NATO. Um, my, my first watch with the one that I've probably been wearing the most frequently, um, is my Hamilton khaki mechanical blasted case. This is the older generation. It's not the new military spec. It's the older sort of Hamilton. What I think is a really iconic Hamilton branding, uh, and font choice and line weight choice. I really love this dial, but, uh, all that aside, This has been my go-to summer watch, and I think this watch is just a fantastic combination of size. It's got some wrist presence because it's not a tiny case. It's not big by any means.
Will Is that still 38 millimeter?
Andrew Yeah, I think it's 38 and a half, so it's 38 plus. It's a lot of dials, so it tends to wear a little bit bigger than you might expect out of that size case. Also has a long, flat lug. It's got long... That's right. It's it's got pretty long lugs. They are pretty flat. So it tends to wear pretty big. I wear this thing on a NATO. And unlike you guys, I do not gild my NATOs. But yeah, well, you know, it's that's another weird thing, right? It's not that I am opposed to a gilded NATO. It's just that I don't have any misgivings about the height added by that second layer of nylon. It depends on the watch and NATO for me.
Will Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind the height. It's the, uh, all the extra bulk, the material at the end.
Andrew Yeah, no. And I get it too. Right. I get the argument for a gilded NATO. Um, and it's not something that I'm, I'm evangelistic about one way or the other. Right. But there's always that moment when I think about doing it, then I'm like, well, but I kind of like this NATO and maybe I'll want it ungilded at some point. So, um, yeah, I, I don't know this, this has been my go-to though. I've currently got it on a, Battleship gray Barkin Jack NATO, which when we first got these Barkin Jack NATOs, I was like, this is the answer. I've since moved on to a couple of other NATOs that I really like, but the Barkin Jack is still a great choice. But the whole watch is just, I think it's just got a perfect summer vibe to it. It's the blasted case, it's super casual, but it looks attractive. It looks dressy enough to do just about anything that you're going to do in the summer. The watch has a certain amount of pedigree to it. It just feels good. I put it on and I'm like, yep, I fucking love this watch. And I'll never get rid of it.
Will I like those a little bit more than the newer khaki mechanicals. Same. Because it has that nostalgic look to it without it being forced like I feel like they did with the new ones. I like them. They're great watches. I had one in, oh geez, probably like two years ago, soon after they first came out. Um, the new version. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I liked it, but I feel like it misses some of the charm a little bit that the version you have has.
Andrew Yes. I mean, same, same, uh, exact same analysis for me. You know, I had both of them at the same time, actually. I had the, I had the new black dialed version and I had this one and it was sort of six, one half dozen to the other pick which one I want. And I ultimately just, I like that this one's unique to Hamilton. I like that it feels. like a Hamilton. You know, they're not sort of surrendering to some vintage aesthetic. They're just owning their own aesthetic. And to me, that's more of a vintage aesthetic. You don't have to reach back for it with Hamilton. It's already there, right? It's there and it's DNA. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's it. That's exactly it. So so that that was my choice. You know, when I was making the decision, I did a poll on Instagram Uh, just sort of like, what do you guys think? Which one should I keep? And knowing I, at that point, I kind of knew what my decision was going to be. And I think that the results were 55, 45 type of deal in favor of the newer version, which is not surprising. Um, but there's a lot of people you could tell there's a lot of people that still like that older style. So, uh, something for Hamilton to think about, you know, you know, I think that, that they're sort of own that, that last gen with their own DNA, I think is a really compelling watch in and of itself without the borrowed DNA.
Everett Yeah. Can you still get those?
Will I think you might be able to still get them on Jomashop maybe. I feel like I've seen them.
Andrew I think that's right. They made a bucket load of them. So they're not hard to get. And I think you're probably right. I think you could find one new if you tried hard enough. I don't suspect they're making them still, but I don't know that for sure.
Will Probably like the SKX. They made so many of them that they were able to sell them even after being discontinued for a while. That's right.
Andrew Yeah, that's right. And, and, you know, for whatever you're going to pay on this 300 bucks, 350 bucks, whatever it is there, if it's new, that's a great deal. And anything under 300 for these things used as long as it's not been beat up, they wear really well. Uh, mine has basically no damage and I've worn the shit out of it. So Jomo shop just has green and white. Are they the new dial or the old dial? They look like the old dial to me. Yeah, that's the old dial. Yep. So there you go. Just green and white, but they're still at 329 and 339 respectively. So my second watch, this is, this is an interesting choice. And in fact, Andrew kind of looked at me sideways when I told him I was going to get picked this one a little bit. Uh, this is cause it's not a small watch. Well, in terms of diameter, it's not particularly big either, but this is my Valjoux 7750 powered Swiss army. I think they call this the F a 18 chronograph. So this was part of really the last iteration of Victorinox before the modern brand that we know of today, where they had a little bit more sort of horology-inspired watches versus... I would hesitate to call Victorinox a fashion brand today, but I think that they've sort of gone after companies like Citizen, right? You know, these really sort of utilitarian, mass market, lots of quartz. They still have automatic and mechanical stuff, but they're tough. Field sort of tech watches. This is a little bit more classic horology focused watch. It is modern looking, but it's like a fully polished case. And it's 7750, so it's chunky, Oh, it's thick, but it's only, I think, 38 and a half millimeters or 39 millimeters in diameter, including a big external tachymeter bezel, non-rotating tachymeter bezel. It's just one of these weird watches I've never heard of before I bought it. I bought it like on a whim. I saw it and I was like, yep, got to buy that watch. It's got this really sort of dark blue dial and just polished markers for days. And I've got it on the FKM. I've got it on a strap I got from the guys at Notice. They're smooth. Love that strap. Really good. You know, it's just fantastic, right? It's got enough texture on the back that it grabs. You know, I'm like you, Will, where in the summer, I really sort of I'll put on a bracelet because I want to wear a bracelet and then I'll wear it for a day. And it's just like it's either slimy or my premenopause kicks in and I'm swollen. And, you know, like It's like always something with a bracelet, especially in the summer. And so more and more, I'm wearing either a rubber strap, something adjustable or a NATO. And this one has been on this FKM rubber now for six months. And it's just every day I see it and I'm like, yep, I'm going to wear the Vicky today.
Will Yeah, I pretty much only wear the bracelets in the summer on like rainy days or where I know I'm going to be inside for most of the day and I don't have to worry about it. sliding all over the place.
Andrew You know the bracelet that I would wear during the summer? Which one? Montez. That quick adjusting clasp is money. Yeah, that's right. Any sort of high end quick adjust. Yeah, it's going to be is going to be a go to in the summer. I think that's right.
Will Yeah, I did wear on the SkyQuest on the bracelet. I never changed that out because it was so it was so easy to adjust it. And that's one thing that I do really wish that was on the Black Bay was the adjustable class from the Pelagos, because it just has the regular, you know, you got to use a spring bar tool to adjust it. And it's a bummer.
Andrew Which makes sense because that's a pretty normal thing. The quick adjust, hopefully it grabs some traction for next year's releases of bracelets. Well, you know, I don't know if I think it is a normal thing. I think with a company like Tudor, who's, you know, really selling a premium product, I think that they could take the time to do that shit. I know that it's sort of antithetical to the feel to the soul of the Black Bay, but it's the kind of thing, if you could figure out a way to give me that technology in this very vintage-looking watch, I'd appreciate it at $3,000, $4,000, whatever it is I'm going to pay. I mean, their R&D is not doing a lot of work right now. They're just bro-ing down. They're like, I got it. Blue. Blue. That was their R&D budget for the year.
Will The graphic designer spent a lot of time on that one.
Andrew Yeah. Well, didn't they say we we spent like that was part of the marketing, right? We spent three years picking the perfect shade of blue. It's like, fuck off, Tudor. No, in fairness, I'd really like to see two of those dials side by side and to see if those dark spots are identical in every dial or if they are if they're just a random application of those dark blue to deepen that blue color. I think it's paint, right? I it's some sort of applied coating.
Will So yeah, but I'm wondering if it's identical or if it's just if it's ratio based printed, you know, it's like tiles that you get, you know, vinyl tiles where every fifth tile is the same. Yeah. Yeah. Guy on Instagram like made this. He just got one. I'll have to ask him to get a couple of macros and I can compare.
Andrew That would be helpful. Let us know if it's a printed texture versus. All right. But I'm saying their R&D could do better because blue is not that impressive for three years of work. But it's but it's the blue that they picked. Right. You know, but traveling the world to find the right color of blue is not worth the money when you consider all the better things they could be doing.
Will What's the name of that? That's like one of those things where it's like, how do I get that job to fly around and look at various shades of blue to tell some watch company which one to pick?
Andrew Yeah. I'm just going to travel the Silk Road and look for the right Blue. What's the name of the company where the guy was? The guy was a Rolex rep maker, and then he decided to start his own company. There was a big to do about it about a year and a half ago. Oh, I know talking about some tip of my tongue. They make fantastic, fantastic Submariner, like mil sub homages, probably the best in the game. And they're expensive. They're like 1600 bucks. And but one of the things from their marketing was like this thing about desert sand loom, and it was like, just fuck right off with that shit. Don't feed me that. Just say, this color's awesome. I don't know, right?
Will It's like- Are you talking about the Ocean Rover? Yes. The Ganalt, Janal, however you say it. Janalt. Janalt, that's right. Janalt. I reviewed one of those soon after that whole drama. What was your take on it? That's a really nice watch. I mean- The money he's charging is frankly worth it. When you look at what you're getting, you just have to get past that it's a Submariner homage. If you do, you've got a great looking watch.
Andrew Yeah, and I think their story got worse, right? Because not only is it a Submariner homage, it's a Submariner homage that's almost certainly patterned off of... The reason it's so good is because they were making extremely high-end reps, Submariner reps. And so that's Do what you will with that but right they make one of the best watches in the world for a premium and But yeah when they the marketing on that thing was a little like yes, whatever from the deserts of the Sahara This is the color that I chose. That's right I walked for hours and found the perfect spot of sand So yeah, that's been it for me. I mean, obviously other watches I've got, you know, I've got my new titanium MRG, new old stock titanium MRG, which I've been wearing lately a ton. I've got a ton of loaners in that I've been trying to give enough rest time to, but... Weird, I don't have any loaners at my house. I've got one for you. We'll talk about that after the show. But yeah, it's been, I mean, the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical and this FA18 Victorinox have been my two go-tos. Can I say something about the G-Shock? Please. I don't like it better having seen it in the middle. It's not better in person. The pictures are as good as it gets. Well, don't worry. It's so good. It feels money. I would, I would wear it, but that's it. And it's just, it's still weird. And I'm so glad you like it. Yeah. Well, I think that's the thing, right? It's one of those watches, like Brad Holmes, um, one of our good, one of our good sort of 40 and 20 friends of the show and, and a fantastic writer and photographer on his own. Brad Holmes has given me shit about this thing since the moment I said I wanted it. He's like, what are you talking about? That's such a terrible watch. Uh, but it's also not. And it's okay. Right. I mean, that's, that's, what's great about watches is that we can pick these watches that are, you know, like even this Victorinox FA 18, right? I don't think this is not a watch for everybody, but I fucking love it. Right. That's it's part of the hobby. That's really fun. Like I can pick these relatively affordable, you know, this, this titanium G shock, was new old stock from the 90s, from Japan, never been worn, and it was 400 bucks. Titanium, I mean. And it's cool. It's objectively cool, but it is also objectively ugly. But it's good enough that I want it and I want to wear it, right? That's good enough for me. That's fair. Andrew, we've come to you. Here's my picks. And mine, they drew along the same lines as what you guys want to do. The kind of things that I want to do in the summer require some water resistance. They require something I feel like I can bang around a little bit. And so I have basically the same pick twice when it comes down to it, right? I have the Orient Mako that I wear. I sometimes will wear it on the Barton Silicone Elite, but I almost always wear this on a gray or black NATO. Never the bracelet because the bracelet pulls my arm hair. I don't like that. But that's it. It's the Orient Mako. It's an OG of my watch collecting. It's got the It's that the Citizen Avion was my first like deliberate purchase, but this was my first like... Yeah, but that was like pre-Watch Nerd. That was like deliberate but pre-Watch Nerd. This was the first really, really like with an awareness of the watch world purchase. And I also got a Boktok Komandirsky at the same time. Right. That I haven't seen in two years. Because I fucking took the bezel off and there's no getting that thing back. No, I can get the bezel back on. There's no getting it back off without destroying the case. Maranom is not shipping right now, so I can't get a polished bezel to fix it. That bezel's been off for a year. Yeah. And then when I finally went to go... Maranom stopped shipping in March. Yeah. I'm just saying. I'm just saying when I finally went to buy it, I was like, oh, it's time. And then it doesn't matter because I still like that watch. I thought about putting the bezel back on and wearing it because I still like it. I hate the fucking bezel.
Will Did you guys see that dude that popped the bezel off his Speedmaster and realized how cool it looked?
Andrew No.
Will Intriguing. I'll have to find it, and maybe we can put it in the show notes if I can find it. It was on Instagram. I'll see if I can find it. But I forget what he... I forget if he said he was cleaning it or something, and he popped the bezel off, the whole tachymeter bezel, and it looks really cool. It makes me wanna find some engineer to say, can you just make a polished steel bezel to fit the Speedmaster and I could pop it on there? Because it looked really cool.
Andrew I believe it. That's cool. That's exciting. I'm intrigued. Although I will say the tachymeter bezel is sort of part of the identity of the Speedmaster. It totally is.
Will That's an interesting... Maybe that's a good topic for another show is I feel like people are afraid to mod expensive watches, but is it that bad if it's maybe a watch you're going to keep for the rest of your life? Why not make it your own a little bit? Add a little touch to it.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew I like that. You know, there was a guy a while back, and this thing made the rounds on Instagram, and I know, Will, you would kind of pooh-poohed the experiment, but there was the guy that bought one of those Tudor P01s, the SKX, four o'clock crown, and he really deliberately and, dare I say, artistically thrashed this thing, right? Oh, yeah, I remember this. And, you know, just heavily heavily force patina it basically not with chemicals necessarily but with friction and abrasion and uh and you know not maybe not a traditional mod as as that phrase goes but distressed it he distressed it that's right uh pretty aggressively you guys ever see a pt cruiser that someone modifies to look like an old hot rod
Will And it just looks terrible. And it's like, you started out with crap and you made it worse. That's how I felt about that.
Andrew Yeah. Well, and you know, that's reasonable too, right? It's like kind of a weird watch and hard to love as it was. And then, you know, the whole forced distress, but at the same time, it was like, good on you, man. You bought this kind of expensive watch and then basically ruined it for anybody but yourself. But to the extent that you like it, man, go with God.
Will Yeah, there was a, I think I may have said it to you guys, but there's a thing on Reddit called awful taste, but great execution. I think that's what it is. That's how I felt about that. It's like the execution was fantastic. I just, I would never do that. Right. Well, partly because I wouldn't, I wouldn't buy that PO one. Cause I, I mean, good on you tutor for doing something a little risky, but man, that thing is the, uh, that thing is the Pontiac Aztec of the watch world.
Andrew Speaking of Pontiac Aztec and PT Cruiser, PT Cruiser, I think, is an unfairly maligned car. No, it's not. I'm going to put my chips in unfairly maligned, but that also a topic for another day. Andrew, watch two. Watch number two. So I chose the EMG Nemo as my watch number two. Yes. And part of it is I'm a little honeymoon-y. Yes. But the other part is because it's the perfect summer watch. Yes. It's small. It's got water resistance. It's durable. It looks good on its bracelet, which is a terrific bracelet. It looks good on rubber and a NATO, and I've been rocking it on the Barton Silicone Elite. That hasn't come off the Silicone Elite in a very long time, but it's got everything I need in a summer watch. I can golf in it, I can swim in it, I can fish in it. All the things that I want to do during the summer, I wear this watch very comfortably.
Will It's such a good watch, too. Yeah, that's a good pick. I like that.
Andrew And I sent you guys a picture of it. So when I texted you a couple of weeks ago with a lake in the background, Perfect Lake watch, I took it on its christening swim, and I hate swimming. I believe swimming is for survival purposes only and not recreation. I'm a good swimmer. It's not because I'm not a good swimmer. It's because I hate swimming. But we're at this lake, and there's a little fixed dock in the kids' swimming area that my boy wanted to swim out to and jump off of. I'm like, well, are you sure? And I'm trying to talk him out of it. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go. God damn it. And I like went to take my watch off because I didn't know I didn't even think about what I was wearing. And I was like, oh, no, we're going swimming. We're going to christen you today. So he he swims and I'm air finger quoting hard right now. He swims out. He can't swim. He's five. So he's just thrashing in the water. And I'm having to swim me out to this dock. And it's not a long swim. It's like a 50 yard swim and drag his little flailing ass through the water to get out there. And he gets up on the dock and he goes, eh, I'm a little nervous. I don't want to jump. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm so annoyed right now. And finally I convinced him to like ease off and into the water. And that was enough for him. So then we had to swim back, but I felt totally comfortable swimming in this watch. There was absolutely no reservation. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, uh, EMG Nemo, gosh, I think we've talked about that watch so many times on this show, but the fact that they've made, watches in that first run that are still for sale you know here nearly two years later just blows my mind to the extent that there's an underappreciated watch in the microbrand world that's it right i gotta think that's it under like i don't know who couldn't know about it right everyone's got to be aware of this watch we'll say it again it's worth every penny yeah yeah such a good watch just absolutely love mine and they've got a couple I think they have they have black and green left. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds about right. And I don't know when their summer sale runs through. It's it's closing soon, though. Yeah. And there are 450 on the summer sale. Yeah. No, they're less. They're 20 percent off 450. So they're what? 415. Yeah. Go get yourself a fucking Nemo because it's so good. That's lesson for like they're they're in the threes right now.
Will Yeah. If they're 450 and 20 percent off, it'd be $90 off.
Andrew Yeah. I don't do math good. So what? 380.
Will Good job, Will. They're less than $500. Yeah.
Andrew Are we ready? Can I, can I, are we going to talk about honorable mentions real quick? Yeah, sure, sure. Will, what was your honorable mention?
Will The Seiko SBDC 101 or SPB 143, because Seiko always has two reference numbers, which is really annoying. But it's that new sixty two m a s style forty millimeter case uh... have the one with the great dial and uh... that was one that i'd really decided i really hate the bracelet on it uh... which is a shame because it's a it's a good sake a bracelet but it's just i don't just doesn't work with the watch i'll talk about it review because of the square log shape any strap you put on it or any nato just looks absolutely fantastic and i've uh... I think I've had it just a little over a week or two weeks now, and it's one of those watches I don't want to take off. It's really comfortable. It's been competing with some time for the Black Bay this summer, for the end of the summer, I guess I should say.
Andrew Ev? Yeah, I had a couple of honorable mentions. The Speedmaster was one of my honorable mentions because I have been wearing that quite a bit. Obviously, the G-Shock, one of my honorable mentions. The other one, the most important one, and there's a good reason for this, is that Pulsar G10 that I have. Uh, and the reason for that is I sort of, uh, I stressed about making a decision on my backpacking watch and I settled on that. Uh, I was the right choice. I was kind of in between that and the F 84, my F 91 JDM. Um, and ultimately went with the Pulsar and it was just fantastic. I mean, it did everything I needed it to do. I wore it on a Zulu alpha, um, just their green. Mm. uh, military strap, which really matches the aesthetic of that watch really well. And, uh, as I was wearing it, I was like, gosh, I just, I'll never need anything else. If, if I really had to strip it down to just one watch, sell everything to make as much money as I can, because you know, baby needs a surgery or something. I'm keeping that one. I just fucking love it. I love it. It wears so well. It matches any circumstance. It looks good. It's it's like 10 millimeters thick or maybe less. It's got to be less. It's tiny. It's tiny. It's just fantastic. So, yeah, that's my honorable mention. What about you? Timex Q Timex.
Everett Oh, yeah.
Andrew Yeah. On the bracelet. The nice thing about that bracelet is as long as you have your keys in your pocket, you can make a quick adjustment. And it's not it's not as ideal as a NATO or on rubber. But that's that's such a good summer watch. It doesn't it doesn't have the water resistance, but it's got that Pepsi dial. It's it's a terrific grab and go summer quartz. Cool. Well, other things. What do you got, man?
Will All right. So this one, uh, I'm going to preface this by saying I'm not a huge fan of multi tools because like a Leatherman, because, uh, I never use any of this stuff in them, but I have a multi tool that I've actually found that is super useful. Uh, especially if you like to take your camera and tripod outside and take pictures, um, or constantly kind of changing things around on your camera. So it's called the small rig holding tool set. with screwdrivers and hex key wrenches. And that's on Amazon. So I'm sure if you Google small rig folding tool, it'll come up. But what's nice about it is it's pretty small. It's like four inches long, about an inch wide, half an inch thick. And it's got stuff that you would need to change things, uh, specific to cameras. So it's got a couple of, uh, Allen keys, a screwdriver, a Torx wrench, and a broad flat head. It's not really a screwdriver. It's just like a big flat piece of metal, which, If you have any quick release plates that go into the bottom of your camera, they all usually have that, you know, wide thing to really tighten them down. It's perfect for that. And then the other thing that is pretty cool about it is it's got threaded holes on the side in different sizes. So if you're not sure which screw size you need to do something with, you know, your, your tripod mount or anything like that, you can test that out on that first.
Andrew And it looks like you could, it looks like they sell like, hex tools to screw into those.
Will Yeah, you can get like little attachments for it and stuff. It's just a really cool little tool and I've been using it a lot. When I change between doing still images and video for the website, I have to change the mount that I have on the bottom of my camera and I use it for that and it's, in my opinion, it's paid whatever the $10 or $15 it costs paid for itself just by being able to do that and not jacking up the what do you call it? You know, stripping the stripping the heads on the screws that go into those things.
Andrew And it's next to free. It's nineteen dollars and 90 cents at 20 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. That's a that's a no brainer. Yeah. And I think small is small rig a photography company. It's it's sort of like a photography based company, right? I have no clue. I think the only place I've ever seen these before is on like Adorama, right? Adorama special.
Will Yeah. So they are. I clicked on him. It's a small rig. camera accessories for filmmakers.
Andrew Okay. So you're getting a like purpose built photography multi-tool and it looks good too, right? It looks like a quality tool.
Will It doesn't look like trash. It's got some heft to it cause it's all stainless steel. Um, the outside might be somewhat aluminum, but it's, it's solid enough. But also found that being home and all the conference calls that I have to be on these days, It's like a great little fidget tool because I just constantly spin these tools in and out all the time.
Andrew Yeah, I love that breaking it in. I love that. Well, so I've got another thing. My other thing for this week, I went I went golfing with a friend last week. I've been kind of looking for a new golf bag for, I don't know, five years, seven years, something like that. I've had the same golf bag since approximately 2007. when I bought the one I currently have. And it wasn't particularly nice when I bought it. It's a Nike stand bag and it's just fine. Um, but it wasn't particularly nice when I bought it. And now like, you know, the zipper, the zipper connections, you know, you've got those string plus plastic zipper pulls. They've all fallen apart and the zippers are all kind of like grimy and they stick and the bag's dirty as shit. And it's, it was just never nice. And now it's, not nice and old so i've been looking for a bag and but but casually right because it's like i don't want to buy another golf bag because the one i have still carries my golf clubs and it's comfortable you know if the straps were bad or uncomfortable i wouldn't i would go get a new one but it's comfortable it does everything it's supposed to do without any actual limitations but Nonetheless, been sort of in the market and I went golfing with a friend this last Friday and he had a new bag. He had just bought a new bag and it's a bag from a company called Jones. And I think Jones is a relatively new company, but you know, came out, I think in the eighties or nineties and they sort of do, um, they sort of do golf like in the way of Laurier or something, right. Where they make really sort of classically styled stuff that's modern and good. And awesome. And so he had this, the name of the bag you have, uh, so you can look it up and we'll put it in the show notes, but is the Jones utility trooper. And he had a limited edition or a collab version of this bag with like black and camo. It looked pretty cool. Um, but you can get these, they come in Navy and sand, and I think you can get them in white or black and maybe a couple of other colors. Uh, but it's all it is, is a very sort of normal, simple, modern stand bag. but it looks like a bag that was probably made in the 70s or perhaps the 80s. Uh, it's modern materials, but it's just got this classic aesthetic and functionally, I was like, fuck, this bag is really, really great. It's not cheap. I think they come in at about 240. Uh, so it's not cheap, but it's also like high end enough that I was like, Oh, well that's a decent upgrade. You know, for a new golf bag, you're going to spend 160 bucks or 150 bucks minimum. on just a normal ping or whatever bag. You want to get a Sun Mountain, you're $250. So it costs the same as these other entry-level bags. And I was really, really compelled. I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet. Does it have a cooler pocket?
Will I was going to ask that same question. That's important.
Andrew It does have a cooler pocket. It's also got some, there's some optional functionality for cell phone. I think there's like a blue they sell like a Bluetooth clip thing that you can put on it So it is very much a modern golf bag with all the modern functions But in this really classically styled Iteration and so I just thought it's a company I hadn't really heard of and it's a kind of company that I like to hear about So if you haven't heard of Jones check out Jones golf bags, they've got stand bags and cart bags depending on how you go off They've got a Sunday bag too. That's pretty compelling. But do you walk golf? I walk I carry. Yeah, that's foolish Yeah, I'm a walker yeah, so but if you're if you're a cart guy you they they sell cart bags And I think kind of you can figure out what you want, right? It's like anything else This is gonna be the super personal decision the one limitation It does have a double strap a backpack style strap option I've heard some people don't love their backpack straps. So something to think about. Looks like you can take them off pretty easily. Yeah, you can convert it to a single strap pretty easily. So if that's your deal or if you're a part-time walker or whatever, you're just a single strap guy, that's definitely a great choice. If you're a dedicated, high-end, functional backpack strap guy, this may not be the best choice, but it looked to me like I would be happy with the way the backpack straps function. So that's my other thing. Ready for mine. Andrew, what do you got? It's another thing we've already talked about, but there's a change. Mine is the Amazon Prime original show. The boys. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I talked about this. You did. You're recycling my other. I am, but I'm recycling it with, I just binged it. It is as good as ever promised it would be. But important note, if you're going to binge it, do it now. Do it soon. Because September 4th, season two is coming out. Yes. Can't wait. And there's a good cliffhanger right at the end of the season. Yes. And I I watched the trailer today and I'm I'm ready. I need it. I want it now. And I hope Amazon just drops the entire season like Netflix does. I think that's the plan. Yeah. I've watched a couple of Amazon shows where they I feel I have memory. I can't say this with absolute certainty, but I feel like I remember some Amazon shows that I had to watch every week that they were dropping them weekly.
Will I think they were doing that when they first started coming out with originals.
Andrew They did that with for sure Jack Ryan, because I remember watching three episodes and be like, what the fuck? I can't watch them all. Like what? No. Give me episode four. You know, there's some there's some philosophy happening there. We're sort of looking at the modernization of the release of shows as far as that goes. And it's interesting. HBO is obviously very committed to the seasonal or to the episodic release. And so it's interesting to see how that's going to play out. You don't hear a lot about it in terms of people aren't criticizing HBO for the way they release this stuff. So it'll be interesting. I think in the next five years, we're probably going to see that play out. I mean, I hope so, because one of the things that I don't like about Netflix is they drop the entire season at once and I watch it in a weekend. And I'm like, well, now I have a year. Yeah, it a ruins a weekend and be not ruins, but it takes the whole it takes the weekend and be leaves you really wanting. Well, and then you have to rewatch everything before the next release. It's been a year since you saw the last episode. Yeah. We do that with Stranger Things. We watch the entire series and then when, like we, we plan it out before the season release and then we just, we put the pedal down. We watch it as fast as we possibly can. I think we watched most of season two, three times because we couldn't remember if we'd watched it. And I was like, I don't remember how this ends. So I think we watched most of season two, three times of Stranger Things. Yeah, the boys, man, is good. It's a really good show. It's good. It was better than Umbrella Academy. I didn't watch you. It's way different than Umbrella Academy. But wait, I liked it a lot more. And get on Umbrella Academy because there's two seasons now you can binge for a week. And it's really fun. It's really fun. It's super fun. It's a little bit softer. It's it's more tongue in cheek, a little bit lighter than the boys. The boys is is tongue in cheek, but it's also kind of heavy.
Will It's a voice is like an adult show. It's like the Punisher. Yeah. I mean, it's it starts out brutal. I'm not going to say anything, but you guys know what I'm talking about. I mean, it's yes, it gets right to it.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. There was no no lag time there. Like, oh, this is where we are. Yeah. Those are disconnected body parts. Got it. Yeah. That was one of the coolest shots I've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's right. Yeah, that's right. It actually I think the greatest I think the this is I think this is a reasonable segment. But you guys can can criticize if you want. I think the greatest moment in television history is the final episode of season four of Breaking Bad. Gus Fring is involved. Gus Fring is involved. That's all I'll say about it. A, if you haven't watched Breaking Bad, please do watch it. What are you doing with your life? It's not the greatest of anything, but it's so good. But the final moment of season four, in my mind, is the greatest. So people had thoughts about Nikki. People had. Oh, my gosh. My other thing from last week, I listened to a lot of commentary.
Everett Was there anything last week?
Andrew Well, it was Nicki Minaj's verse from Kanye West's Monster. So people had thoughts and they were, by and large, good thoughts. You know, everybody's got this is a super subjective, right? But yeah, people had thoughts. So in my mind, the final moment of Breaking Bad season four is the greatest moment in television history because the way it left me, I remember looking at Kim, both of us sort of looking at each other and just like sort of hands played to the side and eyes wide and like, holy shit, did that just happen? That was so fucking awesome. And you can never get it back.
Will I remember, so I didn't watch that show when it was on. I started watching it right when the last season started. So I, binged all the way up to that. And I remember when that happened and I knew the season was over and I could immediately start the next season. But I just remember saying, I was like, I can't imagine watching that on TV and like live. Just having to wait. Yeah. Like I was like, man, I'm so happy I'm doing this this way.
Andrew I do that when new shows come out, I try to avoid them for. You got to wait. You got to wait. I do that too. And connect to season two. So I guess. Here we are at an hour and 11 without a topic. We've managed to fill... We've done it. 1.2 hours. Do you guys have anything else you want to add? Will, I'll invite you as the editor-in-chief.
Will I think I'm good.
Andrew Okay. Andrew, what about you? You got anything you want to add?
Everett Nah.
Andrew Well, on that note then, I guess I will thank you all for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20. Excuse me, 40 and 20, the WatchCloaker podcast. We got the boss in the house. Check us out on Instagram at 40 and 20 or at the watch clicker. That's where we post all the pictures. You're going to get all the information about what's happening on the website or on the podcast. Uh, if you want to support the show and or the, what the website checks on on patreon.com slash 40 and 20, that's where we get all of our website hosting money and our podcast hosting money. And don't forget to check us out next week for another episode of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Everett Bye bye. Music.