Episode 94 - GFY Watches

Published on Thu, 13 Aug 2020 00:01:00 -0700

Synopsis

This podcast episode revolves around discussing "Go F*** Yourself" (GFY) watches - timepieces that one likes despite reasonable criticism against them. Andrew and Everett share their picks for GFY watches, explaining why each watch falls into this category despite its quirks or shortcomings. They also touch upon honorable mentions, knife recommendations, and Everett's preparations for an upcoming backpacking trip.

The hosts engage in their signature banter and tangents, covering topics like Tom Brady's branded Omega Speedmaster, an unusual Parnas watch with a skull dial, Andrew's birth year Speedmaster, and Will's pick of Omega's ultra deep dive watch. The discussion highlights watches that may not be universally appreciated but hold personal appeal, reflecting the subjective nature of horology enthusiasm.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is 40 and 20th Watch Clicker podcast with your host, Andrew. I'm a good friend, Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Unknown No keto.
Everett I'm good, man.
Andrew You're keto free today.
Everett I'm keto free. Keto free. And you brought me some boneyard beer. Boneyard RPM.
Andrew It's fairly recently that they've started selling package and not draft. So when I saw it at the store, I was like, oh man, I haven't had RPM in a long time, because bars have been closed.
Everett I don't know that I've ever had Boneyard in a can. I don't know that I have either.
Andrew Or in a bottle, for that matter. No, that's why I said package is a relatively recent development. I wasn't. You weren't paying attention. It's okay. That's right.
Everett You don't listen to things that I say. You probably said something like that, but there was no reason for me to have listened to you. Fair.
Andrew You were in the room though. Can we just do other things? Well, eventually we'll get there.
Everett Okay. Okay. Andrew. So how's your week been? Oh, do we have to talk about weeks?
Andrew I guess we don't have to.
Everett Yeah, it's fine. You know, I'll skip you. No, that's fine. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you right now, this last weekend was like the most relaxing weekend I've had in probably two years. Is that because everyone's gone? No, dude. It was, well, everyone's gone now. Everyone was here this weekend, but it was just like everybody sort of was on the same page to be relaxed and to chill the fuck out. Saturday, Saturday, we did literally nothing. I mean, we sort of I went on a hike with the kids and then we went on a little run.
Andrew That's a lot of things.
Everett Yeah, but like, you know, a run is like I got up and just went and jogged happily for a half hour, you know, and then the hike with the kids was piece of cake, like another 45 minutes. We watched Netflix. We just fucking relaxed. It was awesome. And then Sunday, like had a small little barbecue with some friends. And thanks for the invite. I appreciate it. Yeah. No, they said, someone said, don't invite Andrew.
Andrew No, I know. That's why I'm, that's why I'm, I'm being appreciative. Um, how are you? Good. Yeah. Good. Closing it, closing up my weekend right now. It was a busy weekend. I had to go to Fort Lewis yesterday, which was not a fun drive, but you know, got my freedom papers. So, You know, nothing to complain about there. And it didn't cost me any money when I got there. For those of you familiar with the CIF turn-in process, you rarely make it out of there unscathed. And I didn't pay a dollar to the federal government when I turned all my gear in. In fact, I came away with some stuff that they didn't want back.
Everett How long, how, when are your IRR orders effective? Next week. I want to get, go, go up there and get Disneyland tickets.
Andrew I mean, I still have a common access card.
Everett Oh yeah. Mine, mine expired on the 4th.
Andrew I just got a new one.
Everett I pulled it out and I was like, motherfucker. It's expired on the 4th. Just got a new one. So. God damn. Okay. Well, you'll have to get us Disney tickets once, once COVID's done and we can go back. I mean, you can. In like 10 years. Is Disney open now?
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew I think Florida is still open.
Everett Of course. Of course. Florida would be open.
Andrew Yeah. I'll probably pass on going to Disney in the, you know, next six months or so.
Everett You know, when I turned my CIF in, I had a fleece. I, did we talk about this on the show? I had a fleece and the guy was like, Oh, I'm sure you could go to the, to the surplus store and find one. They have them all over the place. And I was like, how much is it? And he was like, 40. 40 bucks, man. And I was like, bro, bill my ass. Where do I sign? It's 40 bucks. Yeah. I just gave you like $10,000 worth of shit.
Andrew Bill me. Yeah. No, that's a, that's a victory to, to leave CIF with, with less than a hundred dollar bill. It's good. That's a victory.
Everett Did you ever get a big command, um, a big command loss?
Unknown No.
Everett No. You know why? Because I take care of my shit. So in, in the, in the military, when you leave command, you sign over a property book most of the time. And it's usually like multiples millions of dollars. Yes. A lot of shit, depending on what kind of organization you are. It can be a really lot of shit. So if you've got tanks or something that are issued to you, it can be a ton of money. So. when you hand over that property book, if there's shit that's missing. And it's not just shit.
Andrew It's like three inch screwdriver, Phillips, six inch screwdriver, Phillips, nine inch screwdriver, Phillips, like tiny redundant shit.
Everett The report that gets worked up is called a FLIPPLE. And we call it a FLIPPLE.
Andrew It's an acronym, obviously, for Financial Liability Investigation of Property Lost.
Everett Thank you. And most of the time, commanders, unless they were really negligent, they might have a flip a loss, you know, $20,000 and the government will just sort of eat it. Yeah.
Andrew Most of the time, but sometimes. 20 grand is small for a change of command flip hole too.
Everett Right. Someone's got to be irresponsible. Sorry, you fucked up. You lost 20,000 bucks. Yeah. Well, do a quick website review. Yeah, let's do it. Or website update. Catch up. Catch up. So, as you know, uh as you know we we regularly put stuff on the on the website will and our friend mike rayzac if you're listening mike i got it right this time we'll see so uh mike put on i think it was already on when we did our show last week but obviously the uh not obviously perhaps unobviously the retris dive watch review that was on there also the dietrich pure time which is a freaking awesome, awesome watch. Our friend, Instagram user Furry Wrist Abroad, did a review of the Dietrich Puritan. Check that out. There's this podcast, Just Some Tool Watches. Oh yeah, they did a podcast. And Will, our editor-in-chief, posted his review of the Christopher Ward C65 GMT World Timer. That's the one with the yellow... Yeah. the yellow strip at 12 o'clock and the yellow GMT hand. Very cool watch. Yeah. Very cool watch. So if you haven't, go check those things out on the website. They're up. They're live. They're ready to be consumed right now. I know your review of the Gavox Squadron is going to be going up at some point in the next week.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett I think your first draft was submitted today. It was.
Andrew Good shit? Yeah. Well, no, but... You know... But yeah, it'll be up in the next week. And you have the Avidiver.
Everett The Avidiver review will go up. I think that's probably about three weeks out. More... Sooner than that, the Le Sablier review will be going up.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett And then I think, I hope, fingers crossed, that next week's episode will be with Mark of Long Island Watch. And we've also got a pending review of both of the Islanders, the 013 and the 007. size format Islanders will both be going up. So I'm going to do, I'm going to do a combined review on those. Will just did a review of the, the full size, the 007 size. So I'll probably do, um, a comparison between the two kind of what, what they look like, the differences between the two, two sizes and how they're, how they're different. Cause there's some differences there.
Andrew Yeah, certainly some differences. I've really liked the small one.
Everett It's really fun. I really like it. It's really fun. You know, it wears smaller than I expected it to.
Andrew um significantly which is not bad it makes it kind of seem tall at the same time i've heard people say that the 007 wears tall and i've never felt particularly like it does but the 013 definitely is prominent mount hood style prominence well no there's there's something we're going to talk about today is mount hood style prominence oh is in your pants yeah that's that's more mount saint helensy so We are going to talk watches today. Look at us at nine minutes getting into the main topic. Oh yeah. Look at us. Oh yeah. Boom time. Uh, I can't remember what we're talking about though. We're talking about some G F Y watches. Gotta fuck yourself. No, good for you. Good for you watches. I had a boss that used to sign off emails. GFY? GFY. And he would tell us in meetings, GFY means one of two things. Go fuck yourself or good for you. And when I tell it to you, you get to pick what he means. You get to pick. And most of the time.
Everett It was almost certainly go fuck yourself. You could use either.
Andrew Right. Because they fit in both. Like when he used it, he used it appropriately. And it was like he would just respond to an email you sent GFY like.
Everett Yeah. Oh, right. Well, and good for you. It's not it's like putting a period at the end of a text message. Right. It's like it seems like it should be OK, but it's actually just a fuck you.
Andrew Yeah. He was he was a really good dude to work for. Good for you. He was like just a bro. who happen to run shit, and told us to go fuck ourselves when we tell them things.
Everett When we use the phrase GFY, it is in the tradition of American trad menswear, the GFY style. And that might be in the style of the college, the take Ivy college student that could be white socks with a pair of penny loafers. It might be madras shorts in the winter. Double polos with both collars popped. Yeah, I mean, that's maybe a more modern version of GFY, but I certainly would agree that it counts. Yeah. So these are, in this context, going to be watches that we like. And we probably shouldn't. That we probably shouldn't. That's right. That you can criticize. And those criticisms will be fair.
Andrew But I like it, dammit, so go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself.
Everett I Well, certainly some of the watches that didn't make our cut today. Some of these watches are going to be watches that people are like, oh, you know, if you post it on, uh, if you talk about it on watch, you see people would be like, yeah, but it's ugly. You get booed off the forum. Yeah. It's a piece of shit. It's quality is terrible. However, I want to wear it. So go fuck yourself. Yeah. Right. If you are listening at this point with the kids and you have not figured it out.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Sorry guys. It's my, I think, I mean, there's the chance there is a chance we're going to say, go fuck yourself about 30 more times.
Andrew Yeah. You know, the worst part is that's not the worst thing we've said on this podcast or it's not the worst thing. The earliest we've said in this podcast.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. We've, we've done some horrible things here.
Everett So in terms of then philosophy, I sort of went with a, a very personal set of watches and I think maybe you did too. And so as we go, there's going to be some explanation cause I realized very quickly that this topic is gonna be so, so, so specific to the human being. Oh yeah. Because by its very nature, a go fuck yourself watch is just, it's only for you. Not gonna be universally appreciated, right? Or disappreciated.
Andrew Right, yeah. I mean, by the fact that we were able to find so many. We had to narrow our picks down. Yeah, that's true. And so, I'm just doing this off the cuff. We're gonna post on this, and then we'll put a little tile up on the Instagram, and you guys can take a pick. you'll be able to vote on whether or not one of my picks that didn't make the cut is in fact a GFY watch or not.
Everett Okay, okay. So, I suppose maybe we can get to some honorable mentions at the end. Yeah. At the end, why don't we just roll right into it?
Andrew Are you ready? Here's your first. No, give me your first. I want to hear it. I'm actually, I'm excited for your first.
Everett Well, I haven't decided which one I'm going to go for first. I think the one I'm going to go for first is the Dufa Doofa, the Weimar Bauhaus hundred anniversary. Hold on. I'm going to have to actually pull this thing up.
Andrew Yeah, because you just sent pictures of it like a weirdo rather than links like I sent you a link. So to me and Will, like recently you sent just pictures.
Everett The Doofa Weimar Bauhaus hundred year anniversary edition GMT blue and white. So there'll be a link to this in the show notes. I take a little bit of issue with this being a GFY watch. And so this is the least offensive of my watches. I don't think a GFY watch has to be offensive. No, I agree. I think that this one is not universally lovely. I think the lugs are too narrow. I think the GMT hand is dumb. Dumba. um it's got too much color it's i don't think i think too much color comes from the strap i think you change a strap out and that color issue goes away yeah that's perhaps true that's perhaps true in this state though i think that it is both very very cool and a little bit obnoxious i i really like it it's 350 money for a gmt it is it's a quartz gmt so still a gmt that that's right that's right it's a 38 millimeter watch it's only nine only nine ticks Stainless steel. It's going to have a mediocre leather strap would be my guess. Dufa does reasonable leather straps. 18 millimeter lugs. I wish it was 20, but that's that's fine. 30 meters of water resistance. But none of that shit matters, right? This is a sort of Art Deco Bauhaus watch with a goofy wave GMT handle. yeah i kind of like it okay well i think that is potentially a problem right um i think in terms of a gfo i watch many people are gonna like this this is gonna be the most likable of all my picks because after after this we're going we're going left it gets dark so so with that then i'm gonna go with my most likable pick to follow up i like it yeah i'm going with the casio world time a5
Andrew 00WGA-9DF. And it is the all gold stainless steel Casio World Time.
Unknown Mm hmm.
Andrew Mm hmm. Yeah. No, this fits. And you know why I think this is a go fuck yourself watch? Because it is everything that a gold watch is not. Gold watch is supposed to be luxury, supposed to be really refined. No. Bring bring some some prowess to your world. Not this. This is a gold digital watch. for $43, and it's dope.
Everett Yeah, it's dope. I think the only thing that would make this thing more go fuck yourself would be if it were solid gold.
Andrew Oh God, yeah. But it's like, I'm sure there has been at one point a solid gold Casio made.
Everett Well, I think one of the G-Shocks comes in solid gold. The square G, the square metal Gs.
Andrew Yeah, but I'm not thinking G-Shock. I'm thinking like something like this.
Everett I wonder how hard it would be to get a case stamped and machined out of gold.
Andrew Maybe that's what we do. We just start machining golden cases and selling them for people's watch movements. There's got to be a business there.
Everett Just putting Casio, just putting world timers and F-84s into gold cases.
Andrew This is just a straight go fuck yourself watch. Yeah. Because why? Why? Under a shirt cuff this could, people might think that you're wearing like a gold dress watch or a gold bracelet.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Because nice and slim.
Everett It's, yeah, they're very slim. They're very slim.
Andrew So this is my, but this is also, I mean, I think a likable watch, but to wear this watch is kind of, kind of GFY anyway.
Everett Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, this watch, even not in gold, even just in silver, uh, is pretty, is pretty ostentatious.
Andrew I saw a guy wearing a gold calculator watch. Yeah. Uh, once he was wearing skinny jeans, Berks, a t-shirt, a vest, and he had a handlebar mustache. It sounds like every single guy in Portland. Well, he was in Eugene. He was wearing that watch and I was like, man, it's a cool watch, but dude, I hate you.
Everett Yeah, you know, those calculator watches are are hipster watches, right? Yeah.
Andrew And this sort of is too.
Everett Yeah. No, very much. Very much. Cool.
Andrew Good choice. All right. What's your what's up next? Because we're now we're now we're down the rabbit hole. We're into some we're into some things here.
Everett We're down the rabbit hole. So I'm going to save the one that I'm most likely to buy. I know I haven't talked about this watch on the show. My third pick, I think I may have talked about this watch on the show at one point, but we'll come back to it. Because this Spinnaker Picard automatic thousand meter gold and blue watch, I'm not going to buy it. No, you shouldn't buy it. Probably, probably not going to buy it. So what this is, this is a gold toned titanium cased thousand meter cube, thousand meter super domed spinnaker watch so water resistance down to a thousand meters helium helium release valve obviously 47 millimeters wide 25 millimeters thick uh and it's a fixed bezel it's a fixed bezel dive watch is what it is on a leather strap yeah that's good to 100 atmospheres it comes with rubber it does yeah yeah yeah rubber seems appropriate leather less so I mean, yeah. So this thing, you've got to see the pictures, right? There will be a link in the show notes. It's an attractive watch.
Andrew Certainly not unattractive. And then you see the dimensions on it.
Everett And you're just like, oh. Well, the first cue that something's amiss is in the top down. The first cue that something's amiss is when you look at the crown.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett And the crown is probably about 12 millimeters.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett Like, oh, what's that? That's a big crown. Because it just from the top down, it's like, oh, that's an interesting watch. It looks like a spinnaker. And then you and then you go to the second picture and you go, oh, those lugs seem really deep. You go to that third, fourth picture, fifth picture. Oh, my God. What is this? Yeah.
Andrew It's a dive bell. It's meant for people to dive inside of it. I love it. It's so weird, but also cool.
Everett It's cool.
Andrew I like I actually kind of want this watch if it wasn't nine hundred and fifty money. I'd say we should buy one just for a giveaway. Well, but you know, so that we can wear it and, and, and have, you know, do a review of it, have the two weeks that we're going to like wearing it and then get one arm real swole. Yeah. And then, and then pass it on.
Everett You know, I'll say a couple of things about this watch. One, it would be a conversation starter. Oh yeah. Right. People be like, what the fuck is that? Uh, and two, it's my weapon. It's not unattractive. I mean, I think it would wear funny, but it wouldn't it wouldn't be shitty to wear is my guess.
Andrew I don't think it'd be great to wear in anything other than short sleeves. Yeah, it's too tall. Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty tall snow jacket. Perhaps this could be a good snowboarding watch.
Everett You know, I almost put a watch in this place, a watch that I've almost talked about a few weeks in a row. But I almost talked about the Raven Deep Tech in this in this watch's place.
Andrew Yeah. You said that to me. I was like, that's not a, that's not a GFY watch. What are you doing?
Everett The problem is it's just too good. Yeah. To be a GFY watch, you know? Yeah. It is also very big. Uh, it's only 42 and a half millimeters wide, but I think it is like 16 thick. I think 16 or 17 thick. It's just too good. Right. Um, I will say both of these watches, if you are in need of a watch to buckle to the outside of your submarine, mhm. Both of these watches, both the Deep Tech and the Spinnaker Picard represent an amazing value. Yeah. Yeah. Watch number two, Andrew, go.
Andrew Oh, so my watch number two, going a little bit different direction than where I usually go here. This is the TB12 Tag Heuer Carrera. So give us some context. So Tom Brady being TB12, Cause Tom Brady is number 12. Uh, he partnered with Tag Heuer to make some modifications of a Carrera and they did a limited run. I want to say they did 5,000 or so, maybe less than that. Um, but they, oh, where's it say doesn't matter. However few or many they did, they did a Carrera with Tom Brady's number 12 in the 12 o'clock sub dial. That's really the difference. That's it. They used, they used the, uh, so the, um, the, the leather strap is meant to simulate the texture of a football. It's very pebble. The, uh, the case that it comes with uses the same material as the Patriots jerseys. They use the same font on the 12 as it's the same font in colors as the Patriots use for their, uh, for their uniforms. But what it comes down to is that this is about a $3,000 watch. No, like $1,500 watch. You can get most Carreras in that zone, like sub three. Probably, yeah. But this is about 5,700 bucks, just because it's TB12 branded. But the specs on it are money. It's got a 50-hour power reserve. It's a 43-millimeter case, which tracks for a chronograph, 100 meters of water resistance. It's got an engraved case back with TB's signature and the number 12 on it. Like, it's just, it's just, Frivolous isn't quite enough. Yeah, but I love it.
Everett Yeah, cuz I love Tom Brady You know sort of he's he's approaching goat status, right? and I think that there's something about both New England and Tag Heuer and Tom Brady to a certain extent all tracks that are all sort of GFY, right? Yeah, like New England as a place is kind of GFY Yeah, New England Patriots as a team are kind of GFY.
Andrew Oh, they were not so much anymore.
Everett Well, you know, we'll see Well, yeah, Cam might fit in that system. I think Cam might fit in that system really well.
Andrew So... Do you disagree? Yeah, I disagree. Gosh, I think he might fit really well.
Everett Are you really thinking that or are you just... Yeah, no, I actually think that. I think that he may be surprising. I mean, he's an MVP, right? Yeah, he is. He's got skills. They've got a fantastic run and pass protection.
Andrew system in place already for him he's strong he's big he doesn't have the accuracy that tom brady has ever had well but that's not how he plays football no he's i don't think he's going to fit in that system it's going to take a couple years of building to build the system around him because the system they have right now has been built around tom brady being able to hit a golf ball 300 yards yeah we'll see okay gfy tv 12 this is as gfy as it gets it is three times the price of its counterparts. Because if you look at a normal Herrera, the non-TB12 variety, it's the same fucking colors. The difference that you're getting here is you're getting a 12 in the 12 o'clock sub-dial. And I jokingly told you the difference in price is because you get the number 12 displayed twice. That's right. Yeah. And that's it. You get the you get the laser etched Tom Brady case Tom Brady case back, and that's it. But you know what? I I would do it. Yeah, I'd wear it and I'd love it. I might not keep that leather strap on it, though. I bet that leather is dope. So my third watch, it's also blue leather just to it's not a black leather or brown leather. It's a it's a blue with Patriots blue with red stitching. Yeah, because if it were if it were brown like football brown with white stitching, I think that would have been an improvement.
Everett My third watch. This is a watch that I have actually almost purchased before. I thought you purchased it today. This is a watch from a watch company called Parnas. You at home will likely have heard of this brand. At some point you will have seen one of their watches and thought, do I want to buy this? And ultimately decided, no, no, I could never wear it. Everyone would make fun of me. I do not want to buy this. Probably wisely. This is a watch that used to be listed on Parnas' main page. It's no longer there. You have to go to the Alley for this watch now. But this is called the, well, I don't know what it's called. The Alley, like, like Gray Market? No, no. The AlleyExpress.com. Okay. The Ohio State University. Uh, AlleyExpress.com. This is the 40 millimeter special Parnas watch. Gold, hollow, skeleton dial. Luxury men's sapphire glass. Golden Miota Automatic Movement 711. It's a skeleton, that's for sure. Yeah, and so when I say skeleton watch, I mean something different than what you might be thinking. The dial is a skeleton watch in the shape of a skull.
Andrew And the hands are pirate sabers.
Everett And the hands are curved, are curved sabers, yes. Yes, that's right. This watch is ugly, and yet... It's ugly as sin. And yet, as far as I can tell, it is not a direct homage of any one watch. Nope. It is interesting. It is not overly sized, which you might expect this watch to be too big.
Andrew You'd think this to be a 45 to 47 millimeter watch.
Everett It's a reasonable size. None of the case aesthetics are over the top. There's some fluting. There's some fluting on the three and the nine o'clock on the sides. Besides the dial. besides the dial nothing on this watch is over the top uh it's skeletonized which i generally don't like but in this case i'll give it a pass i wish they had done something to bejewel or bedazzle the teeth yeah i think that there used to be some more uh some more um extravagant versions of this but this is the one that you can find now certainly we will link to it in the show notes because you need to take a look 177 dollars i i think this is
Andrew maybe a reasonable purchase.
Everett And they're like, you know what? It's my watch.
Andrew Yeah. GFY. You could, you could wear this to Treasure Island. It's interesting. So because of the shape of the dial, they had to do some different things in the way of building out that case. Yeah. And it's interesting to see screws on the front of the case with the skull shaped. I mean, the crystal isn't skull shaped, but it's still the silhouette of the skull. You know, like they did it really well. They went for it and they executed that novelty well.
Everett You know, there's nothing about this watch that screams disgusting, right? Well, I mean, the face is weird, but look, if this was a Alexander Schaikin or whatever, it would be made a lot better, but people would be... Schaikin? Alexander Schaikin? Yeah, I don't know. Or even if this was a Ulysses Nardin, um people would be like that's fucking cool like yeah it might not be for me but that's fucking cool that's a $35,000 watch that's cool it would obviously need to be better made than this but 177 bucks it's not it's not overly uh it's not an homage to anything so it's it's not going to be uh something that's like oh you're just wearing a fake you know that's what Parness is known for right they make fake Pams they make fake that's their jam Nautilus yeah uh you know that is their jam This is, as far as I can tell, an original design. And if it's not, please tell me. Let us know if this is a direct rip of something else. I know other watches have used skull faces and dials before, but as far as I can tell, this is an original design. And I think that's the coolest part of it.
Andrew When you said, when you sent a skull, I was like, there's a lot of brands out there that do better skulls.
Everett But this is not a bad skull either.
Andrew That's the thing. It's not. It's not. It's the weird thing. That could be the best watch they make.
Everett I think it might be. I don't know that they still make it, but yeah, I think that might be. It's the only Parnas watch that I've ever seen that I'm like, I want that. So we'll move on. Cause I actually am a little bit in love with this watch.
Andrew So you texted that to me. You kind of laughed at me. You were like, are you serious? I know I laughed. And then you said, I got one. And I was like, I think you're going to be disappointed, but you know, I mean, okay. Have you changed your thoughts at all on it? No, I still think you would ultimately be disappointed with that watch.
Everett Disappointed in what? I mean, where would the disappointment come from? You're never going to wear it. Well, maybe. But even if I wore it 10 times in the next two years. Yeah, no, I suppose that's fair. I mean, can you imagine wearing this to Red Bar?
Andrew Oh, I think Red Bar people go nuts over it. Maybe. I mean, Red Bar people. Maybe not the Portland Red Bar, because the Portland Red Bar seems to be a lot of vintage. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Everett I think, I think a hip or red bar people might be like, that's fucking cool. So, uh, I'm going to move on because that's all there is to say about that fucking watch, but do check it out.
Andrew Yeah, no, it's, it's definitely worth checking out. Um, so here's my last pick. And I think this is, this is the one that I like the most and am most likely to buy. Can't find it though.
Everett We honestly, we do pick watches before the show. We even talk about them before the show.
Andrew No, I can't find it. Like I can't find it to purchase. Oh, I see. So it's by a company called No Watch.
Everett No Watch.
Andrew No-watch.co.uk. And they make some weird watches. Their whole jam is weird.
Everett We talked about No Watch at some point.
Andrew We did. Early on. We did. We talked about, I think we may have talked about a similar watch. I didn't go back through the notes to find it. But this is a Reverso CM1-3212. backward watch for left hand and it is just that it is a counterclockwise turning watch crown left as if left-handed people see in reverse we do yeah no that's a thing uh it says this watch run counterclockwise opposite to the regular hour hand direction individually numbered limited edition of 500 pieces limited edition watch what up it's 42 millimeter case 49 lug to lug uh It's got a Miyota 2037, 30 meters water resistance, and a 22 millimeter lug width, but it's cool.
Everett It's cool. It's cool. It looks, it's a sleeper GFY watch, is what it is.
Andrew On just a gloss over, you can mistake it for an SNK, not exactly an SNK, but anything of that style of watch, just a really basic, almost field watch feel. Just a little bit of an off-white dial, a little bit of color to it. The black accent around the stainless bezel is very cool. I can't find a price on them, but generally their watches are in the sub $300 range. And I can't, I just can't find one to buy, but yeah. Reverse, 100% reverse. They do upside down watches. They do like 24 hour single hand watches with the 24 zero being at the traditional six o'clock position, which would actually be really cool. There's some functionality in that manner of timekeeping. They do some cool stuff, but this is the one that stood out to me most, because number one, it's a Destro. For our left-handed friend. Yeah.
Everett Who's wearing a Destro ENG Nemo today?
Andrew I am wearing a Destro today. And the counterclockwise would be hard to get around.
Everett Yeah. I mean, it would take some time. I think if this was your only watch, you could do it pretty easily. I think it would happen pretty quickly.
Andrew I think this is a watch you just don't set. There's no date wheel. Who gives a fuck? You're wearing a go fuck yourself watch. You're wearing this watch because you like it. It's cool. It's different. Yeah. You don't need to set the time.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Uh, great choice. Great choice. So I have, you have a couple of honorable mentions. I just have one. I have one honorable mention. Okay. So I'll do my honorable mention here. I had an honorable mention and it didn't make the cut ultimately because I think it's a bit sort of common, which doesn't Which doesn't totally discount it, but ultimately I just like my other picks better. But the Invicta Grand Diver.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett That's Invicta's 47 millimeter, 300 meter dive watch. And I actually think it's a really freaking cool watch. I think that it falls short of being a true GFY watch for a number of reasons. But I think it very neatly bridges the gap between Invicta's really reasonable offerings, like their ProDiver. ProDiver's an excellent watch. Come at me, bro. ProDiver's amazing. And they're more obnoxious stuff, right? So it starts to get too big.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett It starts to get a little gaudy in coloring. They sort of turn it up to 11 in terms of the embossing and the engraving, but without straying from like legit watch territory. Yeah. And I dig it, man. I dig it. It's a big, giant, legitimate, well-made dive watch. And well-made is relative.
Andrew That's what always blows my mind about Invicta is that, generally speaking, their watches hit the specs well. Yeah. But they're almost universally so ugly. Ugliest, yeah. I work with a guy who has probably got 25... Invicta?
Everett Different Invictas. Invictas? Invicta? Invicti. Invicti.
Andrew Invicti actually. Invicti. He's got about 25 Invicti. I've Rarely, I mean I never see him with the same watch on more than once in a week, and they're all big loud ugly He's a he's a QVC enthusiast. You know it seems that way and and he also just from the little I know about him He's also the same kind of guy. I remember that guy we saw in Mexico in the hotel lobby that was wearing an Invicta and one of the hotel staff commented on his watch. And he goes, oh, it's an Invicta. It's a very expensive watch. But I got a good deal on it. Yeah, you did. That's Invicta's thing. Invicta's MSRP is right around Tudor prices. But you can get them for $94.
Everett Yeah, the sales model is very QVC, right?
Andrew It's a very expensive watch. I just never forget that.
Everett It was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. You know, uh, my, one of my uncles, he passed away a few years ago and he's a wonderful dude, just a really, really excellent dude. Smart, uh, deceptively smart, fantastic bowler. He was a QVC watch collector.
Unknown Hmm.
Everett So he collected Invicta. Uh, he collected Croton, Croton, Croton? Creton. Uh, you know, these watches that have this history, this lineage, but have sort of dipped their toes in this MSRP telemarketing game and have really done some weird things. But yeah, when he died, there was like 30 watches. And it was like, everybody gets a watch. All new in box? Many of them, not new in box, but pretty infrequently worn. Yeah, I took this sort of rainbow crystal skeleton automatic thing, croton thing, and it was fine. And I lost it. I don't know, I don't know where it went. This has been many years ago, obviously, at this point. But yeah, he had all these watches and like we all came and picked a watch. All the guys in the family did. It was interesting. They were all huge. Yeah. I mean, they were pretty big. Yeah. You know, but this is like from the 90s and the aughties when that was, that was normal. So.
Andrew No sized bracelets here.
Everett So your your your honorable mention. And I think it's interesting. I think it's controversial.
Andrew So it is controversial. And so this is the watch that we talked about that we're going to put a tile up on Instagram to coincide with the drop of this episode to let you weigh in on whether or not this is a go fuck yourself watch. Ready? Have you ever pulled a beer out of a plastic ring before?
Everett That was my first time.
Andrew It took a lot of exertion.
Everett It's my first time. It's an interesting experience.
Andrew Okay. So I'm going to frame this a little bit. My Mind to Go Fuck Yourself watch, similar to the TB12, is a watch that is needless. Like it's, it's just, why? Just why? Why do you like it? Why would you pay that much for it? All manner of whys. It doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the watch, though the quality can be a factor. doesn't have anything to do with the brand of the watch, though the brand can be a factor. Because I think a lot of Invictus are kind of go fuck yourself watches. If you like it, wear it. This I took a little bit different route. So here's the question that I'm posing. The watch that I'm talking about is a 1989 Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 20th anniversary edition. Now for me, this is a GFY watch for two reasons. Number one, that's a birth year watch for me. Number two, baby. It's $10,000. You can get basically any Speedmaster for the neighborhood of $4,000.
Everett You can get any sort of entry-level Speedmaster for $4,000.
Andrew So you're not going to get anniversaries or limited edition runs, right? Sure. But you're going to get the same technology, perhaps better, for $4,000. So for me, this, I buy the Speedmaster. This is a pure GFY watch to everyone in the world around me.
Everett So like I have a Speedmaster that's just like your Speedmaster, but but it's $10,000. So GFY.
Andrew Yeah. So that was my thinking. That's why I didn't get picked because it's not quite there. But I think it's there. I think it's a GFY watch.
Everett Yeah, I disagree. And I've and I've expressed that to you already. I think that this watch is just a special edition Speedmaster, which is an awesome watch.
Andrew But why? Just why? Will didn't really weigh in. And I probably should have pressed him, but I was busy picking. watches and putting kids to bed. He didn't weigh in. So Will actually, let's give Will's pick. So Will weighed in on the conversation and, God, we text a lot. Yeah, Will's was this... It was the Omega Speedmaster Planet Deep Ocean? Planet Ocean? It's still loading. Planet Ocean Ultra Deep Pro.
Everett That's a long name. Right, and Hodinkee has alleged that this is Jason Heaton, the venerable Jason Heaton. I think everybody likes Jason Heaton. Is there anybody who has ever said anything bad about Jason Heaton? I haven't met him yet.
Andrew Well, I'm sure if I met him, he would be mean to me. Because I'm a dick. And I would say something bad about him.
Everett I don't think Jason Heaton's mean to anybody. That's my guess is he's just like the nicest human being on the face of the earth. Challenge accepted. Jason, let's hook up. This is Omega's go to the bottom of the Mariana Trench watch.
Andrew What is the rated?
Everett It's got weird lugs.
Andrew It's everything about it's weird. It's also a cube.
Everett I think they call them ray lugs. It's very thick.
Andrew They've gotten rid of the helium release valve because- They did some proprietary development to mitigate the need for it. They just kept it out. He superheated the case and then ultra pressure pressed the crystal into the case to create a seal. That's right. Which is better than a helium release valve because it doesn't say, how do we put a bandaid on the problem? They just said, let's fix the problem.
Everett It's sort of the Seiko, the Seiko method of dealing with pressure, right? So, um, Omega built three ultra deeps naming them FOD X one, two, and three full ocean depth experimental. All were tested. to a simulated depth of 15,000 meters for a 25% buffer over FOD, full ocean depth. Challenger Deep is a little less than 11,000 meters. All three took the elevator to the bottom with Vescovo, I think he's the pilot, two on robotic arms and one on a remote controlled independent lander. All three survived the trip and were on display, ticking at the British Museum in London last week for us to see. So this is- We're not touch, that's some dog shit. Right. This is basically a super duper deep planet ocean is what it is, right?
Andrew Yeah, that's super cool. So that's Will's. That would also be a go fuck yourself watch because there's only three of them.
Everett I like the fact that they have it on a NATO strap, right? Yeah.
Andrew You're going to have to adjust your watch a lot going to that depth, right?
Everett That's right. So very cool watch. Very cool watch. Oh, yeah. So the question being question being is Andrews pick of a slightly more expensive.
Andrew No, no, it's the 1989 20th anniversary Apollo 11 edition.
Everett Yeah, but how is that different than any other limited edition Speedmaster that costs $10,000 because they all cost $10,000 besides the regular speedy because I don't care about the others.
Andrew Go fuck yourself.
Everett Go fuck yourself. So is Andrews 1989 limited edition Apollo 11 Speedmaster a GFY watch? I Posit it is not, but maybe you have some other thoughts. We'll put it to you guys. Andrew, my friend. What's your, what's your honorable mention? No, this is not, that's not how we do this. What's your honorable mention? Oh, I already talked about my honorable mention, the Grand Diver. No, I talked about that. No, you talked about the Apollo 11. I talked about the Invicta Grand Diver.
Andrew I thought you had another honorable mention. Are we going to do this? You said you had two. No, I just had the one. Oh, okay. So we talked about Will's pick.
Everett I've got two other things. Oh God.
Unknown Fuck.
Everett Andrew, other things, my man, go. Pass. So I'm going to talk about Andrew's other thing.
Andrew I'm going to talk about Andrew's other thing. So this comes to us by way of Southpaw STL. Our man Clay. A.K.A. Clay. He posted a picture of a G-Shock and a red Mora Kniv.
Everett Kniv. Mora Kniv.
Andrew Mora Kniv.
Everett Mora Knife. Mora Kniv.
Andrew Mora Kniv. Nice. And he said in his post, got to have some of these lying around the house or three. Trust watch people and their gear choices.
Everett And Clay is basically us. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like every time that guy posts something, I'm like, yeah, I agree.
Andrew He texted me the other day or messaged me the other day and asked if we needed any more of the Red Hot Riplets of the Riplets powder. I found a big can of it on Amazon, like the 32-ounce jug. And I was like, no, Abraham, I'm good. I started buying it on Amazon. But he was offering just totally of goodwill to send me more red-hot powder. So anyway, he posted this knife, and I trust his judgment because I trust watch people, generally, because if you're going to care about watches, it means you're going to give a shit about everything else. So I got this $13 Swedish-made knife, not really knowing what to expect. And I love this thing. It's Swedish forged, terrible Kydex plastic sheath holster deal. But here's the magic of this knife. It's in the grip. The handle is so ergonomic. So for like a three and a half inch blade, you've got a full hand purchase on a very ergonomic grip. It's relatively sharp right out of the packaging. The steel appears and seems like it'll sharpen well. For $13, I don't think you're gonna make ever a better knife purchase for two reasons. Number one, who gives a shit if you break it, lose it, destroy it? It's $13. And number two, I think this is gonna take some abuse.
Everett Yeah, yeah. You know, these are extremely popular in the EDC communities because, you know, they're primarily fixed blades. They may make some folders, but they're known for their fixed blades. Yeah. And they're extremely popular in the EDC community. If you're fishing, hunting, generally doing outdoor stuff, this is one of the top picks. Both because of price, right? And what you're talking about, right? The, the ability to thrash it. You know, if you, if you're in a bind and you need to use your knife as a lever and you're like, here we go. I'm not going to, I'm not going to feel bad about this. I'm going to, I'm going to feel fine about this. I need this lever right now. And I'm going to use this for that, for that action. I'm going to break it and buy a new one.
Andrew I'm going to not have any issue striking fire with this. Like on a, on a fire starter, not going to have any issues with that.
Everett Can I ask you a question about the bevel? Is it a Scandi style bevel, or is it a secondary bevel, primary bevel? It's got about a three-eighths of an inch. I would say a three-eighths of an inch bevel, and I suspect that that three-eighths of an inch bevel is the only bevel, at least factory. Yeah. So not quite a Scandi grind. No, not quite.
Andrew You know, and I don't know why the decision would be made for a Scandi grind versus this beveling, but.
Everett I think it's fantastic. It feels great in hand.
Andrew It's super light. So I thought the grip was going to be rubberized just because of the way it looks, and it's not. And I appreciate that because this thing is going to get yucky and messy. And I'm going to really like just being able to dunk it in a creek.
Everett You know, I have a couple of my kitchen knives are Dexter Russell, their Sani Safe line.
Andrew Those are those are exactly the same. Ilka is this. It's the same.
Everett Yeah, they're about you know, you can get a you can get a 12 inch or a 10 inch chef's knife for about 30 bucks. The handles are excellent. They feel great in the hand. The knife is not have any. It does not have any extras. It doesn't have a full tang. It's just what you need to do what you need. It's easy to put a it's easy to put a edge on. It keeps an edge well. Fantastic. And this is it feels very similar to this with win some.
Andrew Well, I mean, I think my primary chef's knife will probably never need replacement because I have a global chef's knife. But my my backup, my nine inch will will eventually need replacing. That's the route I'm going to go.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I've got both. I've got a 10 inch and a 12 inch Dexter Russell Sandy safe. And then I also have the Victorinox, which is exactly the same, but a bit different in a 12 inch. And it performs just as well. No issues with any of those. But I've oftentimes contemplated getting nice chef's knives. Because, you know, I cook a lot and it feels like something I might want to have, but I'm so in love with those knives.
Andrew They do the job. Yeah. I don't have any better results cooking with a hundred plus dollar chef's knife than you're doing with your SaniSafe.
Everett And, and, you know, I, I hear a lot of times folks say things like, well, you know, balance and, and hand feel. And, um, I think that there's some arguments for a nice, for a nice chef knife. And certainly there are a thousand very, very good chefs knives. Oh, yeah. Um, but at some point being in the restaurant industry, you and I both have this experience. Um, you realize that the chefs are using these food service, these industry knives. and they loved them. And I was like, well, why is that?
Andrew Oh, the chefs I worked around were never using them. They always brought their knife roll of... Nice shit? Very expensive shit to work.
Everett You know, I had a different experience. So the chefs I worked with all used either the Victorinox or the Dexter Russell Sandy Safes, which is how I was introduced to those brands.
Andrew Those were all in the kitchens. But every chef that I worked with, they all brought their knife roll and they broke out their blades The one thing that I will say I don't like about the Dexter Russell is the way that the handle connects to the blade. I'm one that holds over the back of the blade. I don't really use the handle unless I'm like really getting after it. The texture difference, not the texture difference, that lip on the, at the end of the handle makes it hard to get to grip the knife the way that I like to grip. Cause I hold, I like to hold right up on top of the spine and work from, from the heel of the blade.
Everett I can feel that. Anyway, more knife, very cool. I'm going to pick one up. I don't know. I'll probably get a fillet knife. I think I'll get a fillet knife and use it on the river.
Andrew They're 15 bucks. You can get one of every color and variation and not be into it that much. Right. I got this one because I'm going to get an elk with it this fall.
Everett I've got a couple of things here and I think I can get through it in four and a half minutes. I don't think you can. I have a little window because I think we're, you know, on the editing, I suck some time out. So I've got two things.
Andrew You have four actually.
Everett So I am getting ready for a backpacking trip and it's my first serious backpacking trip. I've done backpacking before but it's always been short. This is also going to be short and if you've ever done backpacking you might think oh that's nothing. It's a section or really a loop Uh, but it's a three day, 25 mile backpacking trip with my wife who has never backpacked. And so the goal was to be able to do eight to nine miles a day. Very, very comfortably. Yeah. So we've got some big climbs and I say big climbs. They're not tremendous, but I think they're mean. We've got some mean climbs. Um, we've got some decent distance. It's not crazy distance, but decent distance. Um, and, and overall it's a loop, right? So we set out and we've got to get home.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett Right. And we're going around a mountain. So if, you know, something happens, one of us is going to have to get back. So it's a, it's a legitimate backpacking trip, but my goal was to make it enjoyable, comfortable, not painful, not ouchy, which is hard, which means you've got to bring some amenities, but you can't overload on the amenities. That's right. So we are. We're in that process of, you know, what do we need to buy? Can we borrow anything? Um, how do we eat well? Well, I don't want to eat. I know this is not a minimalist trip, right? This is not an ultra light Spartan minimalist trip. This is going to be a comfortable and yet not quite ultra light trip.
Andrew There's balance there.
Everett Yeah. We've got to really strike that balance. I want my wife to enjoy it. Cause you want her to go again. Cause I want her to go again. Exactly. So that means taking shares. Light chairs. That means taking substantial sleeping pads. That means taking warm sleeping bags. Having food. Having a way to cook that food. Yeah. So, really being thoughtful about the purchases. We're probably about 90 days into the planning process at this point, which we're just a little bit over the top. It's not way over the top, but we're being deliberate.
Andrew Yeah, it's deliberate acquisitions. It's thoughtful purchases. It's some physical preparations.
Everett Leading up to this, I've made a couple purchases and two of them I think, gosh, these are just really stinking cool. Batteries. Not batteries. I needed to have batteries because we have two headlamps that take AAAs. We've got a main light that takes CR123s. Stupidest fucking battery. And I am addicted to nicotine. So I need a way to carry batteries for my nicotine delivery device. Right? Your lighter has Batteries? No, you know, you may know at home because you may have heard it, but I do vape. It's not the not the not the coolest thing to do, right? Or the manliest thing you do. Yeah, you know, whatever. I like nicotine. I was threatened by my dentist to get skin grafts, so I had to quit chewing. That bitch. I really can't smoke because I'm a distance runner. So I vape, right? Because I just love nicotine. So I found these battery holders. Taking batteries is always a pain in the ass. And you said, why don't you just take Ziplocs? Well, Ziplocs are a pain in the ass.
Andrew Because I have in every single backpack I own, and every bag I own, I think, has a bag, a Ziploc with double A's, triple A's, and CR123s.
Everett I found this company called Storacell. Storacell.net. I am not getting any money for this. And they make these plastic battery holders. And I didn't know what to expect, because they're pretty cheap, like three or four bucks a piece. You can get them on Amazon, and they come in just about every type of battery you might need to take. And I got these things and I was like, holy shit. They're the truth, man.
Andrew These things are awesome. They look like those old timey change dispensers that you wear on a belt and get from a from the guy selling you hot dogs.
Everett They very much do look like that. So I got these things. The plastic is great. The way they hold the batteries is great. The way they cover the terminals is great. Yeah, I'm into it, man. So those are money. If you're traveling, you need to take batteries, I highly recommend.
Andrew And they weigh next to nothing. That's the other thing. They weigh no more than the batteries that you're carrying. That's right. If it's worth carrying those batteries, it's worth that for the organization.
Everett It's going to add basically no weight. The second thing I have, and this is really cool. Yeah. This is really cool. So this is a product by a company called Gear Aid. And this is one of those companies that has acquired a number of companies over the years. But they make, Gear Aid makes a product called Tenacious Tape Repair Tape. And I was skeptical. Someone had recommended this stuff to me to fix a jacket I have, a waterproof rain shell. I finally picked some of this stuff up. I just picked it up in the white ripstop version, although it comes in a hundred different colors. Maybe not literally a hundred, but many different colors. Probably ten. And it's a tape. It's a fabric tape. It comes in a four by eight foot, four inch by eight foot roll.
Andrew It really is eight feet.
Everett Uh, I think so.
Andrew That was my guess. That's amazing.
Everett Yeah. Uh, Oh, excuse me. Three inch. No, it's not anywhere near eight feet. Oh, three inches by 20 inches. Oh, eight feet. Yeah. So, uh, I, I got two rolls of this. So, so three by 22 rolls for 10 bucks. So it's 40 inches. It's, it's inexpensive. But it's just, it's a fabric tape and it works so stinking well. I have, I showed you earlier, I made some repairs to a sleeping bag. I have, I have a down sleeping bag and it had come open in a few places and was leaking down. And I, I just basically cut off little patches of this stuff, put it over the holes and it's like, it's just tape. You think this stuff is going to come off, but the adhesive is phenomenal. I've used this sleeping bag on a number of occasions already. It's not coming up. I mean, it's fantastic.
Andrew It's not fraying at the edge, which is what I would expect out of a cloth tape. It's not fraying. It's not it doesn't have it. It's as soft as the material of the sleeping bag. It's flexible. It's money. I'm going to I'm going to buy some rolls of that tonight because I tear shit all the time.
Everett I don't think that it's quite waterproof, but I know it's water resistant. And certainly you could treat it with three.
Andrew waterproofing spray or whatever if you have got a small hole in a rain jacket or something yeah I'm really really happy with this stuff this would be a tent and bag patch for me because I tear that shit all the time right so yeah that that's it that's those are my other things for the week those are some good other things we're gearing up for fall guys football is canceled it's get outside hunt fish if you don't learn because that's all we're gonna have to do this fall there's no football Just don't pack 12 football. I bet the ACC and SEC will play two weeks and then one team will have a breakout and they'll cancel.
Everett Yeah, we'll see. I was pretty sad to hear about football, but it is what it is. It makes sense and we've got to be safe and careful still. So get outside. I guess that's what we can do this year. Get outside, go backpacking, go hunting. Andrew, you got anything else you want to add?
Andrew I don't.
Everett I don't have anything either. So thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20, the WatchClicker podcast. Check us out on Instagram at 40 in 20 and at WatchClicker. Check us out at WatchClicker.com for all of our fantastic watch reviews. Many, many writers at this point contributing. There's always new material there. If you want to support WatchClicker or 40 and 20, check us out on Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. And don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Andrew Bye bye.