Episode 75 - If Beers were Watches

Published on Wed, 01 Apr 2020 17:15:00 -0700

Synopsis

This episode of the podcast discusses what types of beers would represent different styles of watches. The hosts go through several beer styles like lagers, amber ales, IPAs, sours, stouts, and barley wines, comparing them to watch categories like quartz dress watches, dive watches, vintage reissues, complicated watches, and overly extravagant luxury watches. They also discuss some recent books, movies, hot sauces, and the hosts' general experiences during the quarantine period.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is the 40 in 20 podcast with your host, Andrew and my good friend Everett here. We talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm doing all right, man. You sound so subdued. You sound sad.
Andrew Well, I'm, I'm getting accustomed to reading my own audio levels. And I'm back to using the digital microphone that we've used, and I'm just making sure that the audio is not going to blow out anyone's speakers.
Unknown Uh-huh.
Everett Well, so far so good. You're not going to blow out my speakers. Well, then that's all I worry about. And I'll be able to edit you natively. Don't sweat it, dude. Fair point.
Andrew But we're figuring this out. We're figuring out quarantine podcasting.
Everett Quarantine podcasting is different. Again, I'm not in the same room with you.
Andrew No, and I don't like that. I did get to see you this week though, which I did, I did appreciate. I got to see you at IRL. That was nice.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew That was nice. It was, it was sad to not be able to like come in and drink beer with you, but you know, it was certainly better than cracking beer from across the city.
Everett That's right. And, and hopefully, Ooh, what are you drinking?
Andrew Is that cryo stash? It's cryo stash. So I'm drinking Hot Valley Brewing Company's cryo stash. their Imperial IPA. It's delicious.
Everett I think it's maybe my favorite. I think it's maybe my very favorite IPA of all time.
Andrew Uh, I wouldn't go that far, but it's, it's pretty high up there for me. It's like a top 10, I think.
Everett Yeah. You know, fair enough. When I say my favorite, that's what I really mean. It's top 10. Yeah.
Andrew Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think it's, it's, it's a reasonable top 10. Because also, it doesn't drink like an Imperial IPA. It drinks just like a normal IPA, but then you stand up, but you don't stand up.
Everett And you're drunk.
Andrew Yeah. Just out of nowhere. You didn't even see it coming.
Everett I was drunk.
Andrew Eh, whatever. It's a... How much is it? I don't know. Usually it's on the can.
Everett No, no. It's like 15% or something like that.
Andrew I don't know about that. It's 8.7.
Everett Yeah. That's a big beer.
Andrew Yeah. It's a puncher. Just delicious.
Everett That's a big beer. I feel like the Notice guy is talking about ABVs.
Unknown Yeah?
Everett Yeah. They do that. They're big hop heads and ABV heads.
Andrew Oh, well, so for you guys listening, this is a 47 IBU, I want to say.
Everett Yeah, for an Imperial, it's not super bitter. I like that. I don't like the really high IBU beers.
Andrew 40 IBUs. And I appreciate in 2008, was kind of the peak of the hop head where you're getting 100, 110 IBU IPAs. And I appreciate that brewers learn to pull all the good stuff out of hops without also adding all the additional IBUs. So we can get down to like back into the 50s and below and still have really good, really full IPAs.
Everett For a while there, it felt like you'd go to the bar and they'd hand you like a green shake or something and be like, This is the newest IPA from Fuck Your Mother Brewing Company. Yep. Tasted like a cup of grass.
Andrew 250 IBUs, like so bitter it tasted fishy.
Everett Yeah. Not a fan. But that Crouse Dash, very good.
Andrew Yes.
Everett Very good. I'm drinking a Negroni. I've been on a Negroni kick.
Andrew That's a good kick to be on it. Especially sad that I'm not at your house right now.
Everett You know, it's the guy, the out of time podcast. I've been listening to those guys. Uh, and, and I think that that's the drink of choice over there. Um, I'm not sure if we're both of them, but I know in their last podcast, they, they said, bring me another, bring groanie. They're at a bar, right? And they're drinking and I thought, I want another Negroni. And so I went immediately to the liquor store. I was in my car, listening to the out of time podcast. And I just took a right into the liquor store and bought Negroni ingredients. How fortunate that you were just at the liquor store. I mean, it was like, it was like a block away. And I was like, yeah, that's, that's a good idea.
Andrew Problem solved. So what, what's all in an agrony for those of us who, uh, who are unfamiliar?
Everett Sure. It's a one to one to one, it's a three part drink, uh, with actually kind of a fantastic history, uh, if you're interested in that sort of thing, but it is, it is one part gin, one part, one part Campari and one part, a red or a vermouth rosso, red vermouth. So I'm not a huge fan of vermouth, however- Do you go sweet or dry in yours? Excuse me?
Andrew Sweet or dry vermouths.
Everett Yeah. So this is a red, so a sweet vermouth. Okay. Yeah. And it just works. It's bitter. It's sort of refreshing. It's got this Kool-Aid. It's got this Kool-Aid coloration to it, which is kind of fun. mostly from the Campari and also the vermouth.
Andrew The color really reminds me of like an old-fashioned.
Everett Yeah, definitely. That's what I thought you were drinking at first. More red than an old-fashioned. It's not brown like that.
Andrew No, I mean, I can only see it through the FaceTime, so. Right.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. How are you, Andrew? How's everything going over there?
Andrew Just hanging out in this quarantine life on the weekends. That quarantine life, yo. It's I mean I'm not quarantined just so we're just doing the stay home stay healthy shelter in place kind of deal. But man it is it is trying. I don't know how people stay home all day with their kids all the time because mine is just a bundle of energy. He just never stops. And it's exhausting. I get I'm more tired after being home for three days than after having worked for four.
Everett Yeah. No, I've said, please stop talking more times than I care to admit in the last week and a half.
Andrew More times in the last week than probably in the previous ever. Please stop talking. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, you know, we're, we're hanging in there. Yeah. Getting, getting kind of bored of doing nothing on the weekends. I feel like the Netflix catalog is thinning out in the way of things that I might want to watch. We watched Outbreak last night. Oh, how was that? Not very good, but I think they did. They did. They did a cool job showing like disease vectoring, like how quickly something can become an outbreak. And it's got, you know, Dustin Hoffman and Morgan Freeman and Kevin Spacey and like, you know, good enough cast.
Everett So we watched we watched Contagion.
Andrew That's next on the list.
Everett Yeah, we watched Contagion with Matt Damon and I mean really just actually a fantastic cast and it was it was equally interesting, you know, I don't know it seemed fairly Constrained, you know, and you know, I think outbreak is pretty out there in terms of Yeah, but what it's doing to people. I think contagion similarly Outlandish but maybe to a lesser degree, you know that that fever that disease they're getting is more extreme than the coronavirus, and perhaps more deadly, but a very similar sort of, you know, this is going to kill 20% of people who get it, and they're talking about our values or whatever. Our value? That's not right, is it? Our value?
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Anyway.
Andrew I think that's the word, yeah.
Everett You know, these same ideas, and it's like, oh, this is interesting and fun, and less fun than it would have been a year ago, because it's so accurate.
Andrew Yeah, I think it's in between a movie made in the 90s and a movie made in the 2000s, though.
Everett Yeah, that's probably true. That's probably true. Yeah. Well, good, and baby's good.
Andrew Cal is- Yeah, you know, he's just eating, cheating, sleeping, shitting, you know, all the baby stuff.
Everett Doing baby things, giggling. I'm seeing lots of giggling.
Andrew Yeah, oh yeah, giggling, getting tickled, making weird noises, you know, all the baby stuff.
Everett Well, I'm sad I haven't seen him for several weeks now, so we'll have to do-
Andrew He asks after you guys all the time.
Everett Right. Where are those guys? Where are the Meadows? Yeah, where are those people at? Well, good. We're talking about watches today. Sort of. Well, not only are we talking about watches, we're talking about beer. We're talking about our two favorite things, watches. The two best things. And beer. Objectively, the two best things.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah.
Everett Man-made. What's that? Man-made things. That's right. The best two man-made things. Watches and beer. And so we've got a fun topic for this week. Our topic is, if your watch was a beer, what kind of beer would it be? And instead of leading with watches, we've decided to narrow this down to six types of beer. Six types of beer. So we've got lager. We've got IPA, we've got sour, we've got amber, stout, and barley wine. We needed to have a ridiculous one in there, right?
Andrew We needed to have two outliers, right? Yeah, that's right. So when I was going through this, I was like, let's get some four really basic. Everyone knows them. Oh, wow. I'm screaming into the microphone. Everyone knows them. Styles of beer. Even non-beer drinkers, no lagers. They've heard of Ipahs. I had a bar owner bitching at me about how she didn't need any more Ipahs because she knows beer. I'm like, yep, you're right.
Everett Have we had this conversation? My dad insists it's pronounced Ipah.
Andrew Oh, and some people are like that. But if you're going to be adamant that it's an Ipah, I'm not going to talk beer with you. It's a totally futile conversation.
Everett That's actually my dad, that my whole childhood, he would come up with pronunciations for things and insist on, you know, as a kid, this sort of annoyed me, but now as a grownup, I find it endearing. Uh, but you know, Kobe Bryant, Kobe Bryant for years was Kobe Kobe Kobe beef, Brian, you know, or things like that. Right. Uh, like I said, as a, as a child, it was like, fuck dad, it's Kobe. you know this is embarrassing or whatever right now as a as a grown-up I find it endearing you know he comes up with these alternative pronunciations for IPA and Kobe and yeah just watching the Laker game watching Kobe drinking an IPA so okay back to the topic so a couple of outliers couple of basics
Andrew Yeah, so we got four basics and a couple outliers. I wanted to offer you the sour, full well knowing that sours are your jam.
Everett My jam.
Andrew In the way of beer. Not to say that I don't like them, but I don't like them as much as you like them.
Everett Yeah, no, that's accurate.
Andrew And I figured what other outlier is out there that I think would make an interesting watch pick? Someone with a barley wine. Because you don't see them very often. No, no. In like 2010, you saw them a lot, and they kind of fell out of style.
Everett You know, I think you still see them at, like, brewers festivals or whatever, right? Where you get the, like, artisanal small batch, hey, try our barley wine or whatever. But right, it's not marketed.
Andrew It's brewers playing around and decide to do something real off the wall.
Everett Right. Yeah, that's accurate. That's accurate. Well, good. Should we just dive in? Because I think that there's an obvious kicking off point. I think so. I would suggest or propose, perhaps, that the easiest and most basic place to start is a lager. The lager? The lager. The lager beer. Because much like a lager, everybody's had a watch. Everybody's owned a watch. Mm-hmm. And everybody's drank a lager, right?
Andrew And so to that- I should think so.
Everett So to that end, I have suggested that a lager The watch analog to a lager is your basic quartz dress sport, a la the Timex Weekender, or perhaps a Seiko Solar Macy's edition, perhaps with integrated lugs. Something that is generally a grab and go, throw it on your wrist. Maybe not particularly interesting, but with some redeeming qualities. Affordable. widely available, generally non-objectionable, easy to get.
Andrew I like it. Can I offer an alternative?
Everett Counterpoint.
Andrew Same vein though. It's the sport watch, the resin case sport watch.
Everett Yeah, no, I think that that's an easy enough transition. I would say that that probably both both work equally well.
Andrew Yeah I think so. The reason I tend towards that resin case is because I feel like it's a lot more functional than the Macy's grab and go. And I feel like loggers have there's a place in the world for them. If I'm going to drink all day like when I get up on Saturday to watch college football I go to Bush light I go to ultra I go to something light something I can drink all day, and something I am never going to get, well, I mean, I could, and I have, but something I generally won't get drunk from drinking if I drink all day. I'll get the sleepies around four o'clock, but.
Everett All right, well, then why don't we do this? Why don't we sort of go off script, as it were, and suggest that a Pilsner is a lager, right, for all intents and purposes, with a little bit different Uh, grain profile, right? So, and a different hot profile and a different hot profile. Okay. So, but a Pilsner is essentially brewed exactly the same way as a lager. It's, it's all the same things. And furthermore, it's cheap. Now I will say that. Uh, uh, uh, uh, average Joe is going to drink Bush light and someone who's thinking I'm going to be fancy today. I'm going to be fancy today. They may go ahead and buy themselves some green bottle Heineken. or a Miller. That's right. So, so perhaps, perhaps in, in this iteration, the logger, your description of a logger being the resin case sport watch, the Timex Iron Man is accurate, but if you want to be a little fancy, you go, you get yourself a weekender and now you've got a Heineken on your wrist.
Andrew Okay. Yeah. I can get behind that.
Unknown Okay.
Andrew I can really get behind that.
Everett Good, it's solved. And you know, you can even expand it further, right? And I think that was the fun of this episode is we were kind of like, well, what do we do? Well, I don't know. We could, you know, perhaps, perhaps you say, you know, I still want a quartz grab and go three-hander, but I want something special. I want a Longines VHP. I want high accuracy. I want craftsmanship. You can buy a lager.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett You can buy a lager that's made in a small batch with the highest possible quality ingredients and enjoy the shit out of it. And it's a heck of a lot better, better, quote unquote, better. And I mean that both pejoratively and not, it's a heck of a lot better than the Timex Weekend or Bud Light, right?
Andrew I was going to say Bud Light is probably that super high class. No, there's a lot of craft breweries that are doing really high-end lagers. And it's crazy the different flavor profiles you get out of something with just a little bit higher quality grain bill, a little bit more attention to detail in the grain and hot bill. I think you hit the nail right on the head there.
Everett So high accuracy quarts. Yeah. All right then, my friend, I think it's a good enough time to move on to the amber ale.
Andrew Ooh, let's hit the amber. So when I was thinking ambers, I was generally thinking something that's... Perfect. Make more noise. I guess I could have muted myself for that. I mean, you only have that capability over there. It's not a big deal. So ambers to me are super generic, typically. And it doesn't really matter where in the price range you go, what brewery you're going to, you're going to get the same golden, roasty, really mild hop flavor in that beer. That being said, there are a few out there that are really special, but generally all the rest of them are by and large the same. When it comes to mine for me, when I think of a special Amber, I go right to Mack and Jack's African Amber. If I ever see that beer on draft, I will not drink anything else that night at that bar. I love that beer. Cause, cause it's hard to find.
Everett Yeah. It didn't used to be, but it is now. Yeah.
Andrew It's just, it's, it's not easy to find around here and it's, it's in a lot of airports, which I think kind of turns people off to it because like, Oh, it's airport beer. Like you can get Stella or you can get African Amber. Yeah. Do yourself a favor and try the Mac and Jacks. It's unlike any other Amber you've had. So I went with, Your standard sized 40 to 42 millimeter dive watch.
Unknown Uh-huh.
Andrew Because if you look across the spectrum of dive watches, if we, if we look at any of the, the standard, you know, not the, not the, not, uh, skin divers or dress divers, but just the standard spectrum of divers, you can go from like a ProMaster, uh, a Sumo, a Samurai, an SKX, a Tuna,
Everett Did you affect a lisp when you said samurai? I was burping. Okay. I thought you said the samurai. No, I was burping. There's some opinion there. I'm curious about it.
Andrew That'd be an interesting opinion. I wonder how one would get there. I'm going to spend the rest of the episode now thinking about how I could get there. But with all those watches, you're getting generally the same thing. You're getting pretty similar water resistance. You're getting a generally similar aesthetic.
Unknown Uh huh.
Andrew You're paying a little bit north or south from one another, but generally in this price point, you're looking about a $200 plus or minus between the entire market segment. Yeah. Right. Like you think probably eight to 600 bucks and then you go down. But if you get down to the hundred, like what I'm getting at is you're not getting much more. for the $580, $600 Prospex. Then you are out of the SKX or the Mako or the ProMaster. But then you got the ones in there that are special and they're special maybe because they've created a history around them. There's a story to them or maybe because it's just that they're special and it could be like an intangible. I think the SKX is a good example of one that's just, it's special.
Everett You know, I think that this works better. We discussed this a couple of weeks ago, how the Amber Ale and the Pale Ale, not an India Pale Ale, but the Amber Ale and sort of the run-of-the-mill Pale Ale, so a la Sierra Nevada or Mirror Pond, um, how the Amber and the Mirror Pond have, uh, or how the Amber and the Pale Ale have some similar, uh, have some similar features and generally drink very similarly. Um, And I think that this works really well if we throw dive watches into that conversation, right? The dive watch has those different offshoots, right? We've got these sort of more heavy handed pro spec to use, for lack of a better term, I should say, Uh, but we've also got now we've also got these, you know, really sort of unrefined, fun, easy to wear, um, dive watches, you know, especially in that, in, in our segment, in our price segment, that hundred to, you know, thousand dollar, you get this really wide swath of generally very easy to wear, very normal, um, unobtrusive, unremarkable. Dive watches. Yeah. I think it's a great comparison.
Andrew But, but then you've got some that are really remarkable and they're remarkable in their simplicity. Like if you look at the, at the amphibia is an engineering masterpiece, right? When you look at it, it's just, it's, it's just nothing, but it's still so special. And you look at some of the best, the best beers that have ever been made. Two varieties of grain, one variety of hops, and it's just all about timing and balance.
Everett Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Yeah. Is the SKX. Yeah.
Andrew Their grain bill is crazy simple. They use one variety of hops and they still punch out a terrific beer.
Everett That's right. Yeah. No, I think that nails it.
Andrew I think that nails it. I mean, yeah. I mean, I think that's, I think that's what we got to say. I think, I think the Amber Ale is one of the most drinkable and generally boring beers out there, but every once in a while you get a diamond in the rough.
Everett All right. So, so then we'll transition into the stout, the stout, another staple, another bar staple, um, something that is everywhere, but, but I think that the stout is common to the embryo, not just in terms of profile, cause the profiles are simple, right? Stout obviously really kicks it up a notch in terms of the toasted grains and that, and that, you know, Big, bold flavor, but essentially a stout is an amber ale stepped up to the next level, right? So to that end, I said a stout, your stout is your oversized overbuilt, crazy motherfucking dive watch. Oh, so I'm thinking, you know, uh, a Rolex deep sea dweller or you know, one of these deep blue 500 millimeters, or even like, you know, a Neffoons or something, one of these like big oversized, perhaps even like a brass cased or, you know, just big and chunky and go fuck yourself, oversized killer. That's a stout to me, right? Oh yeah. At the same time, warm and comfortable. and perfect when you're sitting in front of the fire with a pair of slippers on.
Andrew The brass case, I think, nails it because how comfortable is that brass case going to be? You just melt into it. It becomes one with you. As big as it is, hitting that stout, you just sink down into your couch. Every time you look up to take another sip, you just sink lower and deeper into your couch.
Everett You've got your lamb skin lined slippers on.
Andrew I do.
Everett Like actually IRL, you do. Yeah, it's happening.
Andrew I'm at my house. I have pants on because I went to a doctor today. I was like, I didn't take regular pants off.
Everett How did that go? Is your hand broken?
Andrew I don't know. I went to the like workers comp clinic, so they had to send it out to get read.
Unknown Okay.
Andrew So, I don't know. I'll know more tomorrow.
Everett Hopefully. Workplace injury. Andrew's suffering workplace injuries. Yeah, those happen. My workplace injuries are, A, I got a paper cup. B, I hurt my knuckles when I punched the copy machine. Or C, I rolled my ankle as I was going down the stairs because I was reading a brief.
Andrew I did hit the copy machine. That's what happened. Yeah. But so I think you nailed it with the, uh, with the brass case. I was, I was thinking you were maybe going to go like big ass pilot watch, like just something kind of decadent and like, cause that's always, that's what comes to mind when I think of stouts, just kind of decadent. I like stouts with ice cream as a milkshake.
Everett Uh, Yeah, I think that that's the porter. Okay. Yeah, the pilot watch is the porter. It's a little bit lighter. It's a little bit less sort of intense.
Andrew Got a little more sweetness. But still overcooked.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew Too big. Yeah, generally too big for me. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. So, so yeah, the, the Porter. So again, off script a little bit, but the Porter, that's the pilot watch that big IWC big pilot. That's a, you know, a really sort of high gravity. That's a peanut butter Porter right there. Porter. That's right. Peanut butter Porter. That's my favorite, man.
Andrew That's so good. If, if any, if you ever see belching beavers, peanut butter Porter at a bar, buy it.
Everett Especially if it's on nitro.
Andrew And if you see it on nitro, Cancel your plans and finish that keg. That's right.
Everett Jesus, man. I've been, you know, I love a nitro beer, but especially like a really rich sweet porter on nitro.
Andrew I, you know, I've gotten into IPAs on nitro. The Beer Stein started having IPAs on nitro and there's just something that's already so creamy about the mouthfeel of an IPA that when they throw it on nitro, it's just, it's so good. It's so good.
Everett Have you ever had the Cape Kiwanda Cream Ale on Nitro?
Andrew I wouldn't like it, I don't think. It's too sweet for me.
Everett Dude, I'm telling you, if you ever see Cape Kiwanda Cream Ale, what's the name of that brewing company? Pelican. Pelican. So Pelican Brewing Company, it's on the Oregon coast here, they make a cream ale in bottles. It's totally unremarkable. It's not bad. It's just unremarkable, but on draft. If you're ever on the West Coast, the Pacific Northwest in particular, and you're in a bar and you see Cape Kiwanda, the Pelican Brewing Company, Cape Kiwanda on draft, I recommend it wholeheartedly. If you see it on nitro, same deal. Cancel your plans, drink as much of that shit as possible.
Andrew That's my take. I have a Pelican beer here right now, and my dad sent me a picture of it a couple weeks ago. Trying to get it in the camera. There it is.
Everett The dankest hour. It's like a weed reference.
Andrew I thought when he sent it to me, because I'm not really literate, I thought it said the darkest hour. I was like, oh my gosh, I love black IPAs. That's my absolute hands down favorite style of beer. Yes, it's up there for me too. You can't find them commercially very often. When I do, I get as many as I can. So my mind saw what it wanted and I see the darkest hour in his picture and I'm like, oh yes. Yeah. I see it at the store and it's been weeks, like probably three or four weeks since he sent me that picture. And I had to go grocery shopping yesterday. I saw this in the store and I was like, yes. And it still says the darkest hour to me as I see it on the shelf. The darkest hour. I put it in my cart. It's still the darkest hour. I get it home. I call it the darkest hour. I put it in my fridge. I pull a can out. I pour it. It's not dark. And I'm like, what the fuck? This is just a regular IPA. So disappointed. So this beer is part of their summer migration series. Or they call it a hopination migration. They're experimenting with all varietals of hops and they found a hop combination that, where do they say it? An emerged triumphant with the assertive resiny earthy pungency known as dank. Dank. It's okay. It's not a black IPA though.
Everett I just, the whole thought process is so familiar to me.
Andrew I mean, it was, it said the darkest hour until I poured it. And then I looked at it and I was like, Oh, the dankest hour. That's not right.
Everett Several, several weeks hunt for the darkest hour.
Andrew And there's still that question on my mind. It's like, did I get the wrong package? No, I, I got the right package. I just can't read.
Everett Totally reasonable.
Andrew So. I guess we'll move on to the next, and this is actually a good segue.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew Into our next category, which is the, the IPA, the IPA, the IPA, the India pale ale. And I went a little bit, I think a little edgy here for my selection. You, you grew your hair out. I did. Yeah. It's the dankest hour, man. I shaved today and I have a beard. All I did was have one.
Everett So the IPA, the IPA.
Unknown The IPA.
Andrew I think the IPA is the reissue watch.
Everett The vintage reissue.
Andrew The vintage reissue watch.
Everett Yeah. I have problems with this, but go on.
Andrew Okay. So, and here's why I think it is, because for about the last 10 years, maybe 12, 12 years, IPA has been king in the Pacific Northwest.
Everett In the North America region. In craft brewery generally.
Andrew But because they so prominently came out of the Pacific Northwest, like from Seattle to Eugene, was where IPAs were blowing up in the craft market. Where kind of that, the hop renaissance began. And IPAs are the cool thing. We're living in a time where 80% of your craft beer door is IPAs. Maybe more. Then you're going to get 10% pails for the people who aren't ready for an IPA, and you're going to get 5% to 10% balance. Obviously, there's 10% left, but we're going to get some variability in there of the rest of your varieties of craft beer styles. You're going to maybe get a farmhouse if you're really lucky. You're going to maybe get an amber. You're probably going to get a stout. You may get a sour, but your selection is, is limited to IPAs at this point. Cause it's the cool thing to do. And I think the vintage reissue is the cool thing to do in the watch industry right now. I think it's a trend. I think it's smart to chase that trend because you sell things that people are going to buy. You don't make things that people aren't going to buy just because you like them. But I think that's where we are. I think right now the watch world vintage reissue. is the IPA.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. You know, I actually, I actually think maybe it is the, the sub homage.
Andrew Ooh, I could see it.
Everett You know, but I think that we, I think that it's that for similar reasons, right? When, uh, micro brands, no coincidence that micro it's, it's literally no coincidence that micro brand Sounds very similar to micro brew, right? There's probably some etymology experts out there that could tell us more about that. But I think that the answer is so obvious that we don't really need to dive into it. The sub homage. And when I say the sub homage, feel free to include the Explorer homage. You should. The DSD homage, the, you know, name your Rolex homage. But the, the sub homage is the IPA, right? And so I think that by way of including these vintage reissues, if we can, if we can shoehorn, if we can shoehorn, as you will, the sub-homage into that description. I think this works just fine. But in my mind, that sub-homage, sort of when micrograms came out... I mean, most people were making their living off of sub-homages.
Andrew That's right.
Everett That's right. That was their bread and butter. What is a microgram? Oh, it's a sub-homage, right? Yeah. There was a period of time, right? And people were doing other things, right? But generally...
Andrew Do you think that's because that's what people were familiar with? That's how you grab as a new brand, you sell something that's familiar and then you get to put your own DNA in it.
Everett And so transfer that to beer.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Yeah. Transfer that to beer. If I'm a brewer and I'm going to, you know what, let's do this. Let's make fucking labels. Let's make a logo. Let's develop marketing. Let's develop a story and let's sell a watch that everybody wants.
Andrew Yeah. A lot of them are kind of a dime a dozen. And a lot of them are busts. A lot of them are copycats. Some are great.
Everett Right. Squalor or Steinhardt or, you know, not that these companies are micro brands. Squalor is this very old company, but they sort of fit into that mold. Right. Steinhardt, old, fantastic manufacturing. But right. These are companies that at least today, at least in modern times, their bread and butter is the sub homage.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett And watches.
Andrew Because people can buy a sub for 500 bucks.
Everett Bernhardt, you know. That's Bernhardt, yeah, to a T. Right? They're making very good, very tasty IPAs. Right? But I also like the idea of the vintagery issue, right? You know, well, now Miller Lite wants to get in on it.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett or Miller wants to get on it, they've got an IPA. Yeah. Now even Miller's got an IPA, right?
Andrew Yeah. They just buy up a company that's doing it already.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. That's something that I wonder if we're going to start seeing in the next couple of years is small companies getting purchased by big guys on the same scale that beer was, right? You could get this brewery that's doing a couple thousand barrels and be purchased by Miller Coors or Anheuser-Busch at the time and just keep working under their own label, but as a subsidiary. I wonder if we start seeing that, you know, if we, if we, if, if EMG is going to get a knock on their door from, from a watch group, or if there's, if we're going to see a cool conglomeration of American micro brands come together and join forces, that'd be cool.
Everett Yeah, no, I mean, I think that it's more likely than not, you know, we are approaching certain global recession, almost certain global recession, right? And maybe worse, right? We're going to see a consolidation. There is going to be consolidation. And I don't just mean in watches. I mean, in everything, right? But yeah, a company like you know, I'm not sure Notice or EMG is a great example, but I think Notice is one of those companies that you look at and, you know, those guys are ripe, right?
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Those guys are ripe to get a knock, at least.
Andrew But who's it come from is the question. There's not that American watch monopoly that if they were a Swiss brand, they almost certainly would have had a knock.
Everett Yeah, well that that's right. I mean you do see the possibilities there Mm-hmm.
Andrew Maybe we should do maybe 40 and 20 should become a watch conglomerate We just start buying brands No, we just let them pay homage to us and okay We'll see what happens yeah, I think we're on to something here.
Everett Yeah, I like it I like where your head's at your head's always in a good place Andrew.
Andrew You know I'm always about doing what's right
Everett All right, so we're running short on beers. I am on my off-the-wall beer, which is a sour beer. Now, if you know anything about beers, you'll have at least seen a sour. Sour is perhaps the new IPA.
Andrew I think it was going to be, and then it just sort of fizzled.
Everett Sure. Sure. Well, and, and maybe it's not going to gain the mass popularity than an IPA did, but there's been a, there's been a thing, right? Where these craft breweries are dipping their toes into sour. So much like the dive watch perhaps, or the sub homage, it doesn't have the universal appeal, but it's got a little bit of a, uh, uh, uh, it's the girl of the moment.
Andrew And I think he did something, I think he did something really smart and I know you've thought of it. I need you to just share your watch. Sorry, I interrupted you. I bumped your words. I'm a dick.
Everett Well, so I actually came up with two separate complications because I couldn't decide. But the one I sort of picked was a mono pusher chronograph. And I actually don't know that I love that pick. And I sort of second-guessed myself and said, well, maybe it's actually a moon phase. Maybe it's actually a moon phase. But the idea in either event is beautiful, refined, nasty. On one hand, overly simple, and on the other hand, ridiculously complicated. Nasty, I think, is the point you were making when you said that. So on one hand, simple. And on the other hand, just ridiculous and nasty and cool. And nasty is not a pejorative in this sense.
Andrew Nasty is like, yeah.
Everett Like she nasty. Girl, you nasty. And I can't decide. I still can't decide. As here we're recording and we've had time to think about this and even talk about it, I still can't decide. But it's in that vein.
Andrew I think the answer is it's excessive complications. Any watch with excessive complications that are, and I think the weirder and the more useless the complication gets, the better that sour is. Because the reason a lot of breweries don't do sours is because they have to allocate an entire barrel to it. They have to stop all of their operations because otherwise they start infecting their other beer. Sure. Because it's so nasty.
Everett So they have to. Well, in the case of beer, literally nasty. Yeah.
Andrew So they have to shut down an entire tank For three times the length as it would take to run any other beer through it. And that's what the same, the same effort that you're going to get out of developing or, or actually producing these new complications and building watches around them. Cause I know you're buying the movements. But still, you buy a movement with half a dozen extra complications, and you're having to look at new cases, you're having to look at new handsets, you're having to look at new dials. Everything changes. And it's unnecessarily complicated because it's not that big of a market segment.
Everett Right, right. Small market segment. That was the other thing. Only X amount of people want this thing. I want it. I want it. And I also want that fucking moon phase, you know.
Andrew Yeah, I do want a moon phase.
Everett You mean that's a classic moon phase on a, you know, a classic, uh, and by the way, it's hand painted.
Andrew Cause why, why not? Right. Yeah.
Everett Right. You know, and, and much like much like a sour beer, the moon phase, perhaps less so the monopusher, although I suspect I'm going to predict, I'm going to predict that there will be many, well, hard to make any predictions right now. Cause we just don't know, but, uh, A month ago, two months ago, I would have made a confident prediction that there will be monopusher chronographs entering the market before too long. I'm not so sure anymore. But you've got these very refined, very attractive moon phase watches or monopusher watches. Just like with Sours, you can get these very, very, very dark, apricot based or blackberry based sour beers. But you can also find a orient moon phase, automatic moon phase that's perhaps less refined, not hand painted. You can just go to the grocery store. Oh, there's a fucking sour beer. Yeah. Just to let me try that. Yeah. And it will give you 90% of the joy, but that 10%, that 10% is where all of the refinement nuance lives. It's in that 10%, you know, that's beyond the Orient moon phase, right?
Unknown Yep.
Everett There's a thing that happens is you, you know, and, and, and that's, that's sort of an unfortunate aspect to, to watches. And I say, unfortunate, more unfortunate for me than for, you know, maybe a higher end watch collector, but it's like, I'm never going to truly enjoy a high end moon phase watch. I'm just not going to. It's not going to happen. It's not in the cards. Maybe, maybe, but, but realistically, I'm never going to buy a high-end Moonphase. And in beer, I can enjoy that high-end sour beer, right? Oh, hell yeah. You know, so many comparisons between these hobbies, right? But beer drinking is for the masses, watches less so.
Andrew But watches could be for the masses. And here we are making it relatable to the masses. We've got an MGD on the table. And we're about to have a Richard meal on the table.
Everett Okay, well Richard meal, me up.
Andrew Me, okay.
Everett Your eyes went from straight like understanding to confusion in the flip of a switch.
Andrew So the last category of beer that we're going to talk about today as they relate to watches is the barley wine. And the reason I chose the barley wine is because, like we talked about, they're unusual. They're people just doing something off the wall for no reason. They're not widely drank. They're not widely sought after. Because nobody likes them. Because nobody likes them, I think. I mean, I have yet to have a barley wine that I was like, hmm, yeah, that gets it for me. So I texted, what I texted Everett for the barley wine was blinged out luxury. Don't find them very often. When you do, even if you could have it, you just don't want it because you know you aren't going to like it. And that's what it comes down to. It's this category of beer that, okay, cool. You can do it. Like, I'm not impressed that you can create, that you can sell me a six ounce pour for $15 at 14% alcohol and tastes like shit. Barley wine nailed it. Yeah, got it. Thank you for the barley wine. There's people out there.
Everett Gem encrusted, gem encrusted bullshit dial.
Andrew Nailed it. There's people who are going to go out there and they're going to want that beer. They're going to want to buy that $14 beer to show how refined they are. Like, the nuance of this barley wine. Nah, bro. It's not worth it. So, A couple examples, I went right to the Richard Mille because that's all of them are so needlessly extravagant. And Richard Mille made a huge, a really smart play this year and getting Odell Beckham Jr. to wear one of their watches on the field. And I know Federer wears a Richard Mille when he plays.
Everett What do you bet the Richard Mille paid his fines? Oh, they definitely did. I mean, do you know for a fact they did?
Andrew Or they let him keep the watch.
Everett Maybe. I don't know. If someone knows, let us know. But I would be willing to bet they paid his fine.
Andrew And his fine was, what, $50,000? Right.
Everett Just dropping the bucket.
Andrew Yeah, like chump change for somebody wearing a quarter million dollar watch on a football field. But that's right where my head went. Just needlessly extravagant. So I also think about the Rainbow Daytona. If you have the kind of money to spend that on a watch, what the fuck else are you spending your money on? And, and what are you doing for a living? Because we, I'd like to pick your brain.
Everett You know, I think that there is a thing that, that, that we haven't really addressed to, which is that, uh, you know, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to play with, uh, to play with a barley one. It doesn't hurt to play with a ridiculously striving a watch. Uh, but by and large, you're not going to gain more enjoyment. No, you're not going to learn anything.
Andrew I wonder what the diminishing return is. Like what's the last watch going up the price spectrum that you enjoy? Like where, where's the diminishing return, like enjoyment versus investment? Where's the value diminishing return at? And I don't know if there's a dollar value on it because every watch is so different, but.
Everett You know, I think that it's different for different people. Right. And that's so heavily dependent on your, on your means. Right. Uh, we're in a world where people regularly acquire 10 to $20,000 watches, um, and. Talk about them and brag about them and discuss them. Um, and that's part of why we're here, right?
Unknown Yeah.
Everett That's part of why we're here because media watch media is entrenched in a hobby where the apparent bar to entry is a $7,000 Rolex Submariner.
Andrew Or you don't have a watch.
Everett Yeah, that's right. And we, you and I, can say that a bit tongue-in-cheek, right? Because we have now developed an entire brand and community based on the idea that That's not true, right? We're not the first and we're not novel in having done that. And to a certain extent, other brands have done that, other media brands, and I say media a little bit sort of flippantly, right? Because I don't think either one of us considers ourself media.
Andrew No, I do have a media pass that I made to try to get in places. It doesn't work.
Everett But if you are a guy who just Googles or follows Uncrate or whatever, you might think, If I want to get a cool car, I have to spend 150 to 200% of what I would spend on my normal everyday car, my Toyota Camry. But if I want to get a cool watch, I've got to spend, you know, roughly 700 times. No, that's not right. 70 times what I would spend on. uh, at everyday watch. If I want to be in this conversation, I've got to spend all this, this money. Uh, you know, there's this idea that sometimes just working a little harder and, and this translates really well to beer. Uh, not that there are any like $500 bottles of beer running around, you know, I'm sure there are, but nobody cares. Yeah. Um, but by and large, you know, If you just work a little harder and look around a little bit more and talk to your bartender and spend some time on, on forums or whatever, you can find that there's this world of joyful. Enjoyment in micro-brand amber ales or, you know, cream ales or whatever. Same is true with watches, which is, which is why we're here. So you don't need to get a barley wine and, and buy some chain mail to go to the Renaissance festival. Uh,
Andrew All you need is a lute and a tuner.
Everett I actually, uh, I actually, uh, was looking at lutes online. No, you weren't. I was really, I was. Uh, yeah, I was thought I should learn how to play the lute. I've since abandoned that idea. It didn't, it didn't last very long.
Andrew I have found the most expensive beer in the world to, I am going to interrupt you because this is interesting. Do it. The Brew Dog or Brew Dog is the brewery, the end of history. It's a Belgian blonde for 765 American money. $765, $765. You can get a 650 milliliter bottle of it. Not even a full wine bottle for 765 money. And then the Lost Abbey Cable Car Creek for 750 milliliters, 923 American money.
Everett It's safe to say there's some diminishing returns there.
Andrew Yeah. I don't know. You know, the most I ever spent on a, on a bottle of booze was 200 bucks and I got the Johnny blue. I did not get any more enjoyment out of Johnny Blue than out of Johnny Black. And I got more enjoyment out of a quart of North Georgia moonshine than either of them.
Everett Right. No, that's a totally reasonable comparison. Yeah. So that's it. We did it. We've gone through every single iteration of Beer and Watches complete for forever and ever. We never need to revisit this subject. However, we probably will though. If we missed something, or if you have any thoughts on this, let us know. You guys have been, with self-quarantine, you guys have been very active.
Andrew And patient, because we suck in quarantine. My brain gets active when I'm active. I'm just probably all mush right now.
Everett No, you know, I told you today, I hate watches today, right? We've talked about this on the show before. You also told me that yesterday. There's some periods where I'm just like, I hate watches. I hate this. I hate doing this. Uh, I hate, you know, no, no, I don't know. I don't want to buy that fucking watch. I'm not buying a watch because I actually am concerned that I'm going to have money at the end of the year, like actual money to pay the rent. So, uh, you know, it, it's an attitude that, that creeps every once in a while. But, um, with that said, The engagement online and everything else sort of always keeps me back, keeps me fresh, keeps me on my toes, and it brings the joy back. So we really appreciate your guys' interactions and your comments and your questions, and you guys have been great. So please keep them coming. If you have comments about today's episode, let us know because we want to know. We just sort of came up with this and rolled with it. Let us know. What did we do? What did we miss? What did we get wrong? Give us your list. And we'll talk about it on a future episode.
Andrew And if any of you tell us that Miller is a Rolex Daytona, unsubscribe.
Everett Andrew, my friend, other things, go.
Andrew I've got another thing this week and it's something I'm surprised I haven't talked about already. Because you and me love some hot sauce. And I am, there's a hot sauce that I go through as much volume in my house as I do sriracha. And I go through a big bottle, like the big grocery store bottle of sriracha every month. Like when I go to the grocery store, I just buy another bottle because I know I'm never going to wish I didn't have that much sriracha. God bless you. Um, this is, Oh, I clicked on the wrong thing. This is Valentina salsa picante Mexican sauce. Extra hot.
Everett Oh boy, the black label. The black label. Don't fuck with me right now.
Andrew This, on the Amazon, it's $12.45 for a 34 ounce bottle. I mean, they're big bottles, but I go through about one a month, and this is one of my absolute favorite Latin food hot sauces. It's got a Because every food, you can't use sriracha on a taco unless it's some kind of Asian fusion taco. This is my go-to Latin-inspired cooking hot sauce. I just drench everything in it. Sometimes I'll just get tortilla chips and eat them out of the bag, hit it with some of this. It's got such good flavor. It's got such good heat. It's one of the few hot sauces that I eat regularly. That still makes my nose run. No, it's no Chimay.
Everett Chimay is better. It's not, it's not a, it's not a burn your feet off type hot sauce.
Andrew But this is hot, flavorful, big, but it also doesn't overpower what you're eating. Love it. Check it out. They come in smaller bottles and they come in extra hot, the black label. Hot is a yellow label and Just regular is like an orange label.
Everett Go for the extra hot. Go big. They're all good, but the extra hot is special. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we talked about Chimay a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. A year ago. But just a reminder, if you're looking for some dope hot sauce, the Chimay Red. Not the same as the beer.
Andrew No, not the same as the beer. Spelled the same. Uh, just to remind everyone, the Chimay habanero sauce on the Amazon for, I'm going to find the red one for a pack of three, 20 money.
Everett And for most of you, that's enough hot sauce for the year.
Andrew Yeah. For most of you, like it's not, it lasted me six weeks, but this is three bottles. So that's 18 weeks. But if I've got three bottles, I'm going to go through it faster. I'm not going to be so sparing with it.
Everett Right. Isn't that funny how you get a little like... You get a little cavalier. Yeah. I was eating... I need some extra.
Andrew I was eating cracklins this week and I was dipping them in... I was... The delay, like you know when you hear somebody say something and your mind goes to the answer before they say it? There was a delay between the k and the lins sound. I was like, why were you eating crack? And then you said lins and I was like, oh, okay. Makes sense.
Everett That makes way more sense. You've been doing law enforcement too long. Evidently. I was eating cracklins and dipping them. I've got this pucker butt Carolina Reaper sauce that I've been enjoying, but I really parse it out. There's two reasons for that, right? The first, and perhaps not the most pressing, is that I don't want to run out because it's hard to find. The second is a little bit really, really affects the lower intestine. Uh, if you, if you eat that at eight o'clock at night, you wake up the next morning and you got to poop a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Because it affects it. It just gets in there and it gives you, it irritates your insides in a way.
Andrew The color of the sauce is like cranberries. It looks like it's going to hurt you on the Amazon. You can get this for 18 bucks. This is the reaper, the pucker butt reaper. Yep. Reapers squeezing.
Everett Yeah. It's good shit though, dude.
Andrew And it looks like a cheap, like knockoff, bottom shelf sauce.
Everett And it's not. It's the opposite of that. Right. It's the opposite of that. I mean, this is, uh, this is, you know, perhaps the Richard meal of hot sauces. Totally unnecessary, ridiculous, but very good.
Andrew Yeah. It's very good. Super mean though. If you're, if, if you're in even a little bit sensitive to heat, just get, Just get Valentina's Hot and call it a day.
Everett That's right, pass. This is not for the faint of heart. This is a serious fuck you up hot sauce. And I eat it, and Andrew eats it, but I think for 95% of our listeners, don't get this and think you're gonna enjoy it, because you're not going to.
Andrew No. We had Thai food the other day, because we've been doing the order food a couple times a week, because we're both still employed. And we ordered Thai food, and the only cuisine that I ever trust their spice rating is Thai food. If they tell me 90% of people, this is too hot for them, that's as hot as I'm going to go. So this place we ordered from, it's like hot. Number one is hot. Number two is it'll give you the sniffles. Number three is spicy, like too spicy for 75%. Number four is too spicy for 90%. I was like, I'll hold there. And they still have three levels above it. I got the too spicy for 90% and I was like, I could've upped it.
Everett Yeah, right. You could've gone to five.
Andrew I could've gone to six, I think, because it was not spicy. And then Sam tried it, and Sam's like, whoa. I'm like, OK, so it's spicy.
Everett It's like when we did that chocolate at the house, and I thought, you know, this hurts, but it's not terrible. And then everybody in the house almost died.
Andrew Yeah, I was close. There was like that mental fortitude of remain composed. This is momentary. Nope. Nope, just breathe. You're going to get through it. It's unpleasant, but you're going to get through it. Meanwhile, my wife is on her knees. I felt really bad about that. This is not an exaggeration. She had like a pea-sized piece of chocolate.
Everett Seven months pregnant, going to die in my living room.
Andrew She's on her knees with her arms folded on the table, her head buried in her arms, sobbing. so it was awesome i probably i'll never have that chocolate again because it just it wasn't good there was no really enjoyed it andrew there was no good flavor to the spice it was it was good chalk the chocolate was amazing but then it was like like jackie chan kicking you in the throat i love without any of the pleasure of spice yeah i had i had all the pleasure of spice so
Everett You know, I guess that's the takeaway, right? Is that spicy food is so particular and individual, right? Because I think that your tolerance for spicy food is maybe just a little bit more than mine, but I handled that chocolate way better than you did. Yeah, you did. You went back to it. Yeah, I ate the rest of it. I think your tolerance is generally higher than mine, so it's really individual.
Andrew Yeah, that one just got me. I would, maybe I would try it again to see if I could do better next time. Like if, if I just like swallowed it wrong or like got too cavalier, like got too comfortable through the milky chocolate delicious.
Everett Well, it does do that, right? It does do that because you put it on your tongue and you think, I know this, this is comfortable.
Andrew Yeah. And then you chew it and I'm like, Oh, there's toffee in here. It was not toffee.
Everett I wish I could remember what that chocolate, I'm sure we said it in a prior episode, but it was, did it come from BuckerBot?
Andrew No, it's a chocolate challenge. There's a bunch of celebrities who have done it. If you just look at the chocolate challenge, we'll find the brand.
Everett Yeah, that's right. And like I said, you know, really individual. And furthermore, we're not recommending you do this stuff. I think by and large, unless you're an asshole or an idiot like Andrew and I, you're probably not going to enjoy that experience.
Andrew No, but if you are, you will. Make sure you have dairy products too, because there were no dairy products in your house. There was some keto ice cream. Sorry about that.
Everett Sorry about that. Keto ice cream is not good. Yeah, no, there is some good keto ice cream, but that wasn't it.
Andrew It was like over churned and, but it wasn't because it's not milk. Like, I don't know what it was. It was just, it was, oh, it is milk. I don't know. I, I just, I don't want it again.
Everett I finished a book this week.
Andrew Yeah?
Everett I finished a book this week.
Andrew Oh yeah, we're still on my other thing.
Everett Yeah, we are. That's okay. That's okay. So I finished a book this week called The Name of the Wind. This is book one of a projected three, and I say projected because there's no third book yet. There's only one and two, but this is a trilogy called The Kingkiller Chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss. It's a fantasy book.
Andrew Like Fifty Shades fantasy?
Everett Different fantasy. A different fantasy. More like Harry Potter meets the Song of Fire and Ice. Ice and Fire?
Andrew Yeah, Song of Ice and Fire.
Everett So fantasy, dragons, sword play, magic. alternate universe, you know, incantations, that sort of deal, strange lands. Um, but it is very tongue in cheek, very enjoyable. In fact, the reason it's my other thing this week is because I downloaded this book, I think last Friday and finish it in about four days and I could not put it down. And two nights ago I came to bed at four o'clock. I was so pissed, too. And my wife says to me, my wife says to me, Everett, this is too late to come to bed. And I was like, you know, it's been so long. It's been so long since I've felt this reading a book, you know, where I just. I could not put it down, Andrew. It just. Did you get it on Kindle? I got it on Kindle.
Unknown Can you share Kindle books?
Everett You know, I think I can by way of you logging into my account, which I'm fine with.
Andrew Oh, no, but I think you can like send a certain amount of Kindle books per year.
Everett OK, well, we'll look into that. If not, I'll just give you my login. OK, because I know you and like you.
Andrew But yes, there are so many nice things for your wife.
Everett Thank you. I appreciate that. So Patrick Rothfuss, The Name of the Wind. If you like reading and you like books, and so many of you do, we know because we talk about it. There's like six of us, six of our listeners, that every week, every single week, I talk about books, which is really joyful for me, because it just doesn't happen that often where you get that kind of experience. So you guys, You guys check it out. Everybody else check it out. Just joy. Pure joy.
Andrew I'll do a quick, I mean, I know it's April by the time you're listening to this, but, uh, I, I only made it through 45 books last year.
Everett You know, people ask us about that every once in a while. And I know you don't, you don't really check the Instagram messages, but people ask us what, what happened with Andrew's challenge?
Andrew 45 books. So I came up 15 short in fairness. I got a new job. Right. So, uh, it was just, uh, it was a little bit harder to get as much reading done as I'd like. Cause I had to do other, you know, non hobby reading, but I'd made it through 45 books.
Everett I think that's pretty good in a year. Yeah. I read fewer books on that.
Andrew Yeah. I made it 45 books. Good job. Hey, good job, Andrew. Thanks. I figured I would give an update because I did tell everyone about it and then stop talking about it. But yeah, here we are, April, and I'm giving you an update on last year's news resolution, 45 for 60.
Everett You know, when people ask, my general answer is, haven't really updated. I assume that means he didn't make it.
Andrew Yeah, no, that's reasonable. Yeah, yeah. There would have been a grand celebration had I
Everett What's happening? I'm not sure you started to say something. I don't feel like you finished your thought.
Andrew No, I said there would have been a grand celebration, had I. Oh, I see.
Everett I see. Well, speaking of grand celebrations, we're just about 2,000 Instagram followers. Look at that. We've got to watch for our 2,000 Instagram follower giveaway. We've got to watch. It's it's a limited edition 40 and 20 watch. It was donated to the show by a listener. Oh, it was donated to the show by a listener. With that said, it is still a limited edition 40 and 20 watch, and it's kind of special. It's kind of special. So when we get there, we're very close. I think last time I checked, we're at one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight. So we almost certainly I'll look right now.
Andrew We'll do this live. Let's look.
Everett Almost certainly we will be there. next week when we record next week's episode, which is when we will announce our 2000 Instagram follower giveaway. 1990. 1990. So grand celebrations heading. We've got, we've got a giveaway. Don't miss it. We'll obviously announce it via the Instagram, probably one week from the release of this episode. So I'm not going to worry about the date, but the following Thursday, We'll be announcing that on Instagram and via podcast, our 2000 giveaway, our 2000 follower giveaway. All right. All right. Andrew, anything else? Anything else that you got before we get moving for the day? Nope. I don't think I've got anything. That time then. Thank you for listening to this episode of 40 in 20. Check us out on Instagram at 40 and 20. That is obviously going to be where we, uh, administer our giveaway for our 2000 follower, our 2000 Instagram follower celebration. Uh, check us out on patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Honestly, you guys, we are so appreciative of our patrons and we're going to do something special for them this year. We haven't decided what, but we're discussing it and we'll be making an announcement on that soon. We can not underestimate how much we appreciate you guys. Um, the, The reality is we don't get paid to do this. We do this because we love it. But there's expenses, there's hosting expenses, and there's hardware expenses. And so we really appreciate you being there for that. Don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Bye bye.
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