Episode 58 - Everett's Collection Inspection

Published on Mon, 09 Dec 2019 15:17:00 -0800

Synopsis

This episode features a collection inspection for Everett, where he goes through his watch collection and scores each watch based on a rubric that rates attributes like water resistance, size, movement, strap, and more. He provides details on many of his watches, including his Timex Easy Reader, Hamilton Khaki King, AMW320, Bertucci B1-T, Dan Henry 1972, Seiko SNK809, G-Shock GWM5610, Vostok Amphibia, Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical, Emperor Diver, Seiko SKX007, Omega Speedmaster, and Seiko SARB035. Andrew and Everett also briefly discuss movies like The Irishman and Shot Caller.

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Speaker
Andrew	Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is the 40 in 20 podcast with your host Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett	Good. I've been eating for... Constantly. Just constantly. So I'm, I'm a little full still. I've still got a sizable food baby, uh, going on. I've left a lot of them in the toilet. It's illegal. Nope. Nope. Nope. Uh, yeah, no, but I'm good. Uh, I had a good weekend. We, uh, went up to Portland, went up to see my folks for Thanksgiving. My family, my, my extended, uh, mom's side family, um, did that, uh, help my parents around, uh, around their house. They had some yard work slash maintenance that needed to get done. So did that. Um, yesterday was my birthday. So, uh, happy birthday to you. Thank you, sir. Had, uh, like a date night with the wife. We went and did a Portland restaurant slash movie night, uh, dinner movie nightcap dessert type deal, which was nice.
Andrew	Did you always have weird birthdays as a kid with all your family typically being like sort of concentrated and really tired of each other?
Everett	You know, that did happen. Yeah, that did happen. Yeah, it's interesting. When I was a kid, I feel like we had like family birthday parties. That's just not something we do, right? Extended family. And maybe it's just location, right? I don't know.
Andrew	Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. Also being in the holiday season.
Everett	Sure, sure. Well, my kid's birthday. Well, Betty's kind of holiday season, but yeah.
Andrew	How about you? How are you doing? Good. I mean, I'm also in the same post Thanksgiving food coma. We had a small Thanksgiving at home. We didn't travel for it because I worked. So it was delightful. I did all the food prep on Wednesday. And then when I woke up on Thursday morning-ish, I just turned the oven on and started throwing stuff in. It was amazing. Yeah. So we're still working on leftovers. And that's my favorite part about Thanksgiving is dressing leftovers. I love Thanksgiving dressing. I can even pass on turkey. If I don't have dressing, it's not Thanksgiving.
Everett	Yeah, no, I feel the same way. I really like a good dressing or stuffing or whatever you want to call it.
Andrew	I mean, I think so. I think a lot of people call it stuffing, but stuffing is when it actually gets in the cavity of the bird. You stuff the bird with dressing. Yeah. No, it was stuffing and dressing is on the side. And I always use sage sausage in mine.
Everett	Oh, interesting.
Andrew	Rather than just like any other variety of sausage, but some sage sausage to add some extra herbal flavors to it.
Everett	Do you have a go to a go to? Like sausage? Stuffing. Like, or do you just make it from scratch?
Andrew	I just, I mean, I buy the bag of chunks of bread chunks and then. And then do the rest of it from scratch.
Everett	Just do the rest of it. However I do it. You know, we've always done stovetop, which I really like, but I've heard good things about Pepperidge Farms.
Andrew	I've had that. I just feel like the moisture content is wrong in the boxed ones. I mean, you can control it though, right? I just feel like I can never quite control it. I feel like it just doesn't ever quite turn out the moisture content I want relative to broth and butter and an egg kind of moisture. Fair enough. I don't know, maybe I'm just being picky.
Everett	Fair enough. No, no, totally fine. Yeah, I do love myself some stuffing slash dressing.
Andrew	I also get really pumped about cranberry sauce. I always do a horseradish cranberry sauce that is so good. Do tell, I don't know anything about that. It's just cranberry. Like, you know how cranberry sauce is made, right? You're not an out of a can slice it kind of guy. No, no.
Everett	I very much am an out of the can slice it guy. We always have both. We always have like a nice homemade cranberry and then a canned cranberry. And I'm the I opt for the canned cranberry every time.
Andrew	That's troubling. But so. You like what you like. Yeah. I mean, that's yeah. So horseradish cranberry sauce is made the same way as cranberry sauce, which is just like a little water. lot of sugar and then cranberries in a pan and then as the cranberries kind of burst they sweat off their own moisture and then it kind of turns into a gelatin and then so as that's working and turning into its gelatin I put in probably four tablespoons of horseradish and it gives it just like that so you have that just really super sweet cranberry sauce and a little bit of the bite that you get from horseradish sauce. Not the heat because all that acid I feel like melts a lot of heat but you get like that Really mustardy. Yeah. Like nasally horseradish flavor.
Everett	Nice.
Andrew	Yeah. Oh, I absolutely love it.
Everett	Nice. That sounds good. I'll have to try it sometime.
Andrew	I need to do it year round because it'd be really good on like pork tenderloins.
Everett	You know, that's something we've started doing is doing a Thanksgiving style dinner just middle of the week type of deal because it's actually super easy. I mean, nothing in the meal takes a very long time except for turkey. And when it's just the four of us, I can make, you know, a handful of chicken thighs. We don't have turkey, I just make chicken thighs, but make the stuffing, or make the dressing, excuse me. Make some mashed potatoes, make some gravy.
Andrew	I need to do it more often. Piece of cake. I roast chickens all the time, and we used a chicken this year instead of a turkey, because it was just the three of us. And I brined it the same way I do a turkey, and then I put it in the oven, and I always do a cover, like I lace up and weave together a bunch of bacon. and put it on top of the turkey. Oh, yeah. And or the poultry that I'm making and then put it in the oven rather than basting it constantly. So you get all that bacon fat dripping through it. Oh, man, that sounds great. And then while I'm carving turkey and doing other prep stuff, I have bacon to munch on. Yeah. Very cool.
Everett	Yeah. It turns out really well. Nice. Well, I assume you have like your ringer on. Your phone on full alert. Why is that? Because you're like any moment away from
Andrew	No, not yet. Not yet. It's got to wait till the 10th. It's, I mean, okay. Yeah. No, I'm just going to turn my phone off and if it happens, whatever, not my problem. My phone's off. Please don't do that.
Everett	Okay. Okay. Well, well good. Well, we've got some, some watch stuff to talk about and some watch stuff to talk about.
Andrew	And, but first and foremost, we're drinking the Ciete Leguas tequila that we talked about last week. Two weeks ago? I think it released on Thanksgiving. I think that's when we talked about no, okay.
Everett	Yeah, I think we talked in the last couple of weeks We've talked about this seven leagues Tequila, what are your thoughts? I think it's delicious. Yeah, it's fantastic.
Andrew	It's a touch hot But I like that's kind of what you get out of what's this?
Everett	80 proof It's definitely a sipping tequila.
Andrew	Oh, yeah, this isn't yeah, I offered ice and I don't think I ice isn't great in it No, I wouldn't want ice in it. Maybe just a teaspoon of water would be nice just to soften it a little bit.
Everett	Even some soda water. Open it up a little bit. But it's really good. Delicious. Fantastic. I'm going to drink a bucket load of it.
Andrew	We'll finish this while we go.
Everett	We'll see. Neither one of our wives is going to be happy with us.
Andrew	No, but we'll sleep here in the guest room. It'll be fine. So watch news, let me start. Please. Because I have an update to last week's episode for the collection inspection. You do. I do. I didn't even think about that. I picked up a DW5600-1VE. I don't remember. I picked up a 5600 and this is important because at the time of recording on the Amazon, the men's G-Shock quartz watch with resin strapped black 20 model DW5600E-1V is $38.97 on Amazon, off of the typical $69.95. So if you're looking for a scream, I saw this because I peruse Amazon around this time of year, just looking for deals on things that I want to buy anyway, and probably would have bought anyway. And I saw this and I was like, well, I'm saving almost as much as I'm spending.
Everett	That's a collector's mentality.
Andrew	So I mean, off of 70 bucks, I paid $38.97 for it and picked up a DW-5600. It's the case we all know and love. The positive display black case. It's money. I like this watch a lot. I've known I like this watch, but I've just never really wanted to spend money on it. So picking it up for $40.
Everett	I'd call that a vanilla DW-5600. No, it absolutely is. And that is not at all a pejorative vanilla in this context. I also call my Speedmaster a vanilla Speedmaster.
Andrew	I don't particularly like how hard it is to depress the time set button. All the rest of the buttons are easy to work. I worked them in insulated gloves just fine, in nitrile gloves just fine, and barehanded just fine.
Everett	But you've got one button that's a little stiffer than the rest.
Andrew	No, the set time button, because it's depressed and hidden. I had to use a headphone Jack to press it. Boo. Whatever. Now I won't accidentally change the time.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Hopefully on the time change hours, days, I'm near a pen.
Everett	Yeah. I mean, you have pens by you all the time. Always. Always. We all do. Yeah, that's right.
Andrew	So anyway, your watch news.
Everett	My watch news. Oh, so I recently, and some of you guys will have seen this, A new watch brand, you know, just what the world needs, a new watch brand. But a new watch brand caught my eye these last couple of weeks. There is a watch company that's just been announced by sort of an old school watch homie. Not my homie, just watch fam homie. But Rusty, Rusty from Nth Watches, I believe Rusty was the lead designer behind the Nth sub case. And also I think that he did a lot of the final production work on the Devil Ray case, the Nth Devil Ray. Rusty has started a watch company. Oh. And it's called Atticus Watch. Atticus Watch or Atticus Watch Company, I assume, something like that. But Atticus is the brand name. And Rusty's first watch is a dress, a sport dress watch, a dress sport watch.
Andrew	So the way we called it this year for what the watch of the year is going to be, because we called this back in like what, December of last year? Yeah. That this was the year of the dress sport. What's next year's watch, do you think? Do you think dress sport's going to hold on for a year?
Everett	I think it may. Yeah. I think that dress sport may hold on for another year. I think that if there's a tweak to that, it would be towards pilot watches. So dress sport pilot watches, I think to... Diminutive pilot watches? Yeah, maybe not diminutive, but certainly in the range of pilot watches. But that 38 to 40 millimeter dress sport in a pilot style, I think that we're going to see... I can dig that, yeah. Some 5.56 styling. I think we're going to see a lot of Um, big loom numerals. If I had to guess, I'm just guessing this is a wild guess. Um, I don't feel anywhere near as strongly about this as I did that the dress sport watch is going to be the next big thing. But, um, yeah, if I had to say, where's it going to go? I think that that would be the direction. I also think that, um, some true diminutive, um, dive watches are going to come out this next.
Andrew	Yeah. We're starting to see some, see some of those, some 38 millimeters.
Everett	That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I think 38, 39, 40 millimeter dive watches, um, probably dressier than what we've seen in the last 10 years. Probably towards skin diver kind of feel. Yeah, that's right. I think we're going to see that. So, but Atticus watch. So he, uh, he has a website. There's not a lot on it right now. I think that there's five renders all the same case. It's a 38 millimeter by 20 millimeter lug. It's got a 20 to 16 bracelet on it, which is going to be, I'm sure, incredible. And the reason I say I'm sure is because Rusty being the sort of main design brain behind the subs, you can see that design language. I mean, I think some of it's in the font choice, some of it's in the render style, because I think Rusty literally did all Chris's renders for the nth subs. But this feels to me very much like an extension of Nthwatches. In fact, I'm a little surprised that this isn't just Nthwatches. I don't know what the decision-making was there. And I don't know. Maybe we'll know more. Maybe we get Rusty on the show to talk about it. And if he'd come on, I'd love to have you, Rusty. Oh, that'd be so cool. To talk about that. This seems to me like a very natural progression for Enth watches. And maybe Chris didn't want to get into it. I don't know. I don't know.
Andrew	But it seems to me like maybe it's a partnership breaking into a different market.
Everett	Could be. Who knows? And Enth is pimping the heck out of them because Chris and Rusty are super good friends. So who knows? There's some there's something happening there and I don't know what it is. And I don't particularly care. I mean, it's not super important to me, but it's interesting. It's an interesting idea. But check them out. Atticus watches. Uh, there's a number of them, five of them and they range. There's a snowflake, I think, and there's a, a pilot style and there's some more field style and address style. So, uh, yeah, I don't know how much they're going to cost. My guess would be between four 50 and 600. Um, on the primary market, that would be my guess, but I don't, I don't really know. And I haven't been able to find that information, but somewhere in that range would be my guess. Cause, and they're going to be. um in that same caliber as nth watches probably that would be my guess because i i imagine he's using the same exact supply chains i would think so coming from the same dna and background right right so with that with that should we get into we got him because we we got a lot of ground to cover here so i haven't counted these yet um but 5, 10, this is like 13 or so watches. And this isn't exhaustive. This isn't exhaustive. This isn't every watch I own. But last week we did a collection inspection for Andrew, and this week we're doing a collection inspection for me, Everett. I've taken all of the watches that are in regular wear, and even a couple of them that aren't in super regular wear, but are sort of available to be worn on a daily basis. I've done what we do. I've gone through and I've scored these all. I've gone through and I've scored these all with our 40 and 20 rubric. Also, someone asked me the other day if we have any sort of proprietary inclinations towards that rubric. I thought it was kind of an odd question, but the answer is no. Yeah, we do. It's trademarked. Right. You're going to have to pay us to use it. You know, this is not, you know, A, I don't think it's developed enough to be something that we would feel strongly about. And B, it's just numbers, right? If you wanted to use the same thing or a similar thing, I think that would be great. And if you wanted to say, yeah, I got this from those guys at 40 and 20, that's cool. And if you don't want to say it, that's fine too. No, I don't feel any sort of ownership over it. Do you feel the same, Andrew?
Andrew	Oh, yeah. This is random at best. Right. Arbitrary is maybe a better word for it. Yeah. Because this is by no means exhaustive. And it tends towards a more versatile watch. This isn't going to do well for dress watches. Right. This isn't going to do well for traditional pilot's watches. I mean, a people like us, who need a watch to do a couple things, and a couple things well, watch.
Everett	And it's pretty subjective. It's pretty subjective. And it's sort of one size fits all, too, in a collection that's not one size fits all at all. So to start. So my first watch. So my first watch. This is a watch that I don't talk about very much. And frankly, I don't wear it very much.
Andrew	I don't think it needs to be talked about a whole lot.
Everett	Yeah. That's right. So, but this is, uh, this is the watch that I was wearing full time when I got my, my most, my SKX, my first sort of collector's watch. Prior to that, I was wearing a Timex EasyReader. This is a 35 millimeter. This is the sort of faux Tina hands and numerals with, uh, I'd get call it kind of a gunmetal dial. I really, really like this watch. Uh, most of you don't know what the EasyReader is. This is very similar to a weekender, a little bit smaller. This is a 35 millimeter case. Um, I do really like this watch. Uh, Andrew, you said just kind of glancing over all my watches that I've laid out. You said, good Lord, I thought it was a wall clock that I was looking around.
Andrew	I was like, when did you get a quartz wall clock? It's so loud. It's absurdly loud through the case over the heater. that was going in this room. Over you talking, I could still pick out that movement. You're just banging away.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. No, it's noisy. It's it's super noisy. 30 meters of water resistance. But I've worn this in the shower over 200 times would be my guess. Maybe. And they cost, what, 40 bucks? And they cost 40 bucks. So love this watch. It scored on our rubric. And again, to remind you of the rubric, we've got up to 11 points for water resistance, 10 points One point for every 10 meters of water resistance, up to 11 points. Size, 10 points for size, 39 millimeters is the gold standard. One point for every half millimeter, a deviation away from that. Movement, up to 10 points. Strap, up to 10 points.
Andrew	OEM strap, just so we're clear, Everett's scoring of his own watches is not based off of OEM straps today. It is based off of the strap that he wears it on, which is important to note because I would give the, I don't, what do you, what do you have the strap on the easy reader at or, or the HK or even the AMW? Like, I think that's an important, an important factor to include that these aren't the OEM straps that were scored today.
Everett	And so the easy reader, I've actually got this on the strap. The HK 1963 came on. I don't love the strap. It's doesn't taper at all. It's fine. It feels nice. The leather is trashy. But for what you get, the Ed 63. It works just fine. The only thing I'm sad about this is that it doesn't taper, and so I can't really use it on any strap I'm going to wear the Ed 63 on, because it's an 18 millimeter buckle. 18 millimeter lugs, 18 millimeter buckle, and so I'm going to wear the Ed 63 on a tapered brace or a tapered strap. Yeah, which I feel like you should. Yeah. So yeah, the EasyReader, I gave that 30 points, which is an incredibly low score. I think of all the watches we've scored, that's an
Andrew	Well, but yeah, I think of the watches that we've looked at, you know, we were looking at the most, the best objectively or objectively best watch under 50 bucks. So we're looking for watches that had reasonable loom, reasonable water resistance. And this is, this tends towards a lot of dress watch stylings. It's small, it has no loom and that, that those two points in itself are going to drop you from a 35 to a 40. Yeah. Or from a 35 to a 30 in a heartbeat.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. It's got a terrible movement. Um,
Andrew	I looked at your scores and I concur. I probably would have tended a little bit higher in some areas, but sure. But I concur.
Everett	Sure. Uh, so the next watch actually, and this surprised me because I really love this watch, but the next watch that popped up on my list, it was the, uh, ed 1963. And this does that in a couple of areas. One, one, it's got no loom and it's got no water resistance. So, but again, it doesn't, that's right. So a true dress watch is not going to do well on our scoring rubric.
Andrew	And I don't know that I would call this a true dress watch. It is styled towards a true dress watch. And I think it probably should have loom. It probably should have at least 50 meters of water resistance because this is an aviation chronograph.
Everett	Sure. Sure. No, and I don't disagree with you. It would be nice if it had loom, but I wear this as a dress watch. Everything else is so good about it. And that's what I want it to be in my collection. I want it to be. Chocolate suede. Right. Where this thing did do very well. It got a 10 on the strap. And that's not because the strap Ed Shipsy's on is good. It's because I have this on my chocolate suede EA8 leather strap. And I fucking love this. It's so money. I love it. I love it. It's the best strap I own. I mean, without a doubt, it's one of two watches that I'm going to talk about today. They got a 10. Yeah. Total score on this is 45. And I'll say at least, well, how many is that? Six of my watches get between 45 and 50. on the rubric, and that's so close. This would have done a little bit better if it had water resistance or if we were factoring for no water resistance and no loom, if we were factoring. I wear it as a dress watch. It fits that purpose very well. It's my main dress watch.
Andrew	I love it. It fits that purpose perfectly. If you were to put this on black leather, I mean, you'd fool everyone that it's a dress watch. The size is right. The styling is right. The color on this. this kind of champagne with black sub dials.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	Oof. Yeah. It's a gorgeous watch. So next up on my list, this is a watch we don't talk about a ton or maybe we do. We've talked about it a ton.
Andrew	I think we talk about the MW a lot. And also I think, uh, in the way of affordable watches is the most prolific in media.
Everett	Yeah. We've talked about that. I think, right.
Andrew	It's just shows up all the time. It's in the office. I saw it in Parks and Rec. It's in obviously Arnold movies. Yeah. Yeah.
Everett	You know, it doesn't get a lot of sort of lip service in the collecting community. I think that truly affordable collectors know what it is, and a lot of them have it. It's a little big, right? 45 millimeters, which is what hurt it the most in this discussion. It gets a zero on size. But I just, I love this watch. I wear this on a Toxic Magnum.
Andrew	And it's so, it's so perfect on that strap.
Everett	That's right, because the case is kind of angular and chunky, and that old isoframe-style strap just sits perfectly. This watch wears fairly thin, and I really like it. It does. It's a really good weekend watch.
Andrew	Oh, it's a perfect weekend watch. It's a good fishing watch, good on the boat watch, good grilling watch.
Everett	100 meters of water resistance. It's going to work for everything you want to do. It looks solid. It stayed in very good shape. notwithstanding not being particularly nice. I like the pushers on the left side.
Unknown	Mm hmm.
Everett	You know, it's got the crown on the right pushes on the left side, which lends it some symmetry. Obviously, that and a digital super cool watch, and I just love it. Mm hmm. It's one of the one of the first watches I picked up, and I don't wear it as much as some other stuff, but I just I'll never get rid of it. It's a poor man's Breitling. Yeah, I mean, kind of. Yeah. Yeah, it serves that same function as a Breitling, you know, without being a mortgage. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Without being a mortgage payment. So love this watch. Not much more to say about it. Next one that comes up is my Bertucci. My Bertucci B1-T. I have a white dialed Bertucci B1T. This has got the older dial with the yellow shield on it, which I really like. I like that.
Andrew	It looks like a Ferrari logo. That's right. Every time I see that, I'm like, is that a Ferrari collaboration?
Everett	Uh, you know, this watch, uh, this watch, I don't wear it as much as some others. Um, partially just because it doesn't really have, uh, it doesn't have a home, uh, in terms of the types of things I would do to wear this. This is a true sort of yard work watch.
Unknown	Um,
Everett	You know, I'm not going to be sad at all if I bang this thing up, and it's been banged up a ton. It was actually in pretty bad shape when I bought it. I have this on a Bark and Jack NATO, which is actually too nice for this watch.
Unknown	I agree.
Everett	Yeah. It's too luxurious for this watch. You know, this thing comes on that sort of antimicrobial foam rubber type thing, which I actually really like it on it. But I just don't have it out. You know, I have a couple straps out. This is one of the straps I have out. So it sits on this thing, but I wouldn't wear this strap to do the things that I would wear this watch in.
Andrew	The problem with the Bertucci is that you can't wear anything more than jeans and a t-shirt before it looks weird.
Everett	Yeah, that's right.
Andrew	Even in a polo, it looks weird.
Everett	That's right. You know, this would be a good watch for you. This would be a good watch for you. It doesn't have any sharp edges. It's titanium. Nothing to catch. You know, the one sort of disadvantage would be that mineral crystal. Yeah, those are still pretty, pretty Durable and it's recessed. Yeah, and it's recessed.
Andrew	So this would be I think this would be an interesting service watch I'd I would dig that if it were on If it didn't have the fixed lugs like if I could put a rubber strap on it Sure, that would be that'd be money for work.
Everett	Mm-hmm Well, I dig it cool watch Loom on it's not great. What did this this thing came in at a 46 both of the AMW 320 and the Bertucci 46 points
Andrew	That seems about right.
Everett	Next watch, and this one's too low.
Andrew	I agree, but I think the HK is too low.
Everett	Yeah, this one's too low, and it's too low for a couple reasons. One, neither the water resistance or the size are all that good. So just let the cat out of the bag. This is the Dan Henry 1972, and there are watches above this that I don't like as much as this one. This one gets a lot of wear time. I probably wear this every week, at least one day a week. Versatility, right? I don't feel bad at all wearing this with a dress shirt.
Andrew	No, it has all the right finishings. It has all the right appearance. I wish it was just a touch more polished rather than that all blasted steel. Yeah. I mean, the bracelet is terrific on it. It is one of the lightest steel bracelets I think I've ever felt.
Everett	And it's an H-link, so it's super comfortable, super flexible. And yeah, super, super light. I don't love the clasp on the the clasp looks fine. It's a scissor clasp. It operates fine. Just something about it. I mean, it's not my favorite clasp. It feels a little chunk.
Andrew	It just feels a little chunky. If it kind of reminds me of the of the prototype for the clasp for the Nemo.
Everett	Oh yeah, a little bit, right? It's just not super smooth, but you know, for what you pay for these things, 350 bucks brand new for this guy. I don't think you can get them anymore. I think they're probably gone. No, they're not. Oh, are they? Yeah. He's not sold out.
Andrew	You can still buy these. Oh, because all of his are limited edition, aren't they? They're just single run. Because I went and looked at the, oh shoot, what did I look at? Quote unquote, limited edition. Well, I went and looked at the 1970, the Diver.
Everett	Yeah, he has sold out of the orange 1970s. Yeah, he's sold out of a couple watches at this point. But you can still buy these, both in the blue or both in the blue, silver and the black and red. I'm almost positive for both of them. But yeah, great watch. I absolutely love it. This is my sort of versatile sport watch. I wear this when I want to be a little sporty. But also it's it's even enough in terms of it's not offensive at all. It wears pretty thin. The the tachometer is internal, so it doesn't have an external bezel.
Andrew	Yeah, dig it. Yeah, it's that's the nice thing about both of your chronographs is both of all three of your chronographs is they can fill that dress watch like that dress sport void in a way that a like the SSB or an external racing chronograph can't and both the Dan Henry and the Speedy are by design racing chronographs but both are able to kind of step above that traditional styling and slip a little bit more into a dress sport.
Everett	Yeah no that's right and I think that's why I like chronographs because the the chronographs that I'm interested in are by and large pretty pretty easy to wear or pretty versatile, I guess is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. So next up what we got. I've got a caveat for this one. So this is my SNK 809. That's the black dial Seiko SNK pilot field watch pilot style feed watch or Flieger style field watch. Flieger. This thing was scored. Oh, so the 1972 1972 gets a score of 48. Okay.
Andrew	Yeah. No, that makes sense. This is probably what I got to 51 on it.
Everett	Yeah, yeah. And you scored everything just a touch higher than I did. This SNK 809, I've graded this as modded. It also comes in at 48. So just to talk about this, this is the original dial. This is that Seiko 5 SNK dial, but everything else has been touched, by and large.
Andrew	The case was brushed. You said your SNK came in at 48 modded?
Everett	At 48 modded, that's right. That's right. So, and what did you score your SNK at? 48 stock. 48 stock. So I'd probably be 45, 44, 45 stock. We have that around here somewhere. I don't know. I don't know where it is. My SNK? No, no. We have my scores for the stock SNK.
Andrew	You didn't fill it out.
Everett	No, I mean, when we did our best watches episode, our objectively best watches episode. Whatever. So this thing has, I brushed the case. on this thing. I polished the bezel in sort of that Hamilton Hamilton Khaki King style, polished the crown on it and put a double dome sapphire crystal on it. And I'm wearing it currently on a Hadley Roma or not Hadley Roma, a Hirsch Liberty strap, which is just a totally killer strap. So this thing did pretty well. I love the strap on this thing.
Andrew	That brown leather on there is such a good combination.
Everett	Yeah, I kind of wish I'd gotten the more red. I got the dark brown Liberty. I kind of wish I'd gotten the more reddish.
Andrew	Like the Merlot, almost?
Everett	Yeah, it's a little lighter. It's a little bit browner than that, a little bit more orange than that. But I'm totally good with the strap. I really enjoy it. Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about an SNK, except for the fact that this thing's been fairly significantly modded.
Andrew	As modded, it fits as a dress watch.
Everett	Yeah, and I don't really wear it as a dress watch, although I do occasionally. I wear it more as a sport field watch. But yeah, obviously not a ton of water resistance on those guys, right? So it gets low marks on water resistance. 30 meters. Good marks on size. Good marks on movement, you know?
Andrew	Yeah, the 7S.
Everett	7S26 movement in it. I've given it good marks on the strap because it's on that Liberty. You know, it's interesting. I was looking at all my aesthetic scores, my look scores, They're all, by and large, 8s, 9s, and 10s. And I thought, gosh, is that really even possible? Am I being too generous? Well, yeah.
Andrew	These are the watches I bought. And yeah, they're the watches you like. Right. So it makes sense. And this is scientific. This is objective, peer-reviewed data.
Everett	That's right. That's right. Durability, good marks. Lume, it doesn't have much in the way of lume. But it's still Seiko lume. Yeah, that's right.
Andrew	Which is going to be better than your Bertucci. Better than... It does have better loom than the Bertucci. I mean, probably better than your Dan Henry. Better than the Amphibia. I don't know how it stacks against your Hamilton.
Everett	Yeah, you know, I think the loom is pretty comparable to the Hamilton. Okay. Yeah, I think the loom is pretty comparable to the Hamilton. So next up, my GWM 5610, also a mod. This is that positive display. The one of a kind. One of a kind, 40 and 20 limited edition. Positive display, white-cased, white-strapped, GWM5610G, shock squared G. The GWM5610 being the solar iteration of the standard DW5600. And we did compare the two. The case is very subtly different, nothing notable. Very, very small differences.
Andrew	A material, like an actual material difference.
Everett	Yeah, the materials are different. And I think the shape of the case is just So, so different. They're not the same. But yeah, this thing does amazingly well, right? This thing came in at an even 50, an even 50. Where did this thing do really well? I think this has one of my highest movement scores. I gave this thing a nine on movement. Okay. And that is one of two watches that got a nine on movement. You don't have to say, but I bet you can guess what the other one is.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	And the reason I gave this a nine, and I give this a better movement score than the DW5600, because it's solar. Because it's solar, tough solar, multiband six.
Andrew	Yeah, that's even above an eco drive in the way of coolness for me.
Everett	Yeah, right. And you know, this thing is going to work. This thing's going to work in any sort of, I mean, barring a escape from New York style EMP devastation type world, this thing's just gonna work. It's just gonna work. Even if the multiband satellite systems go down, it's still gonna keep reasonably accurate time for like a billion years.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	Right? Yeah. So I think this is a pretty great movement. That's obviously a subjective thing, right? It's not a fancy movement. There's no guilloche. Who cares? Or Geneva striping on it.
Andrew	But we're not talking about how pretty is the movement. We're talking about how functional, how useful, and how much we like the movement. Yeah, that's right. I'm actually surprised. I forget your movement score on the Amphibia, but I'm surprised that wasn't a 9 or a 10 also.
Everett	You know, I haven't talked about the Amphibia yet. Well, we're about to. That's why I brought it up. Movement score, yeah. So a 9 for the GWM 5610 movement, for that Tough Solar movement. That compares to the previous ones we've talked about. The EasyReader, I gave it a three on a movement, because that movement's a turd. It's so loud. The HK63. So good.
Andrew	This is the 1901, right?
Everett	The Seagull ST1901, or ST1901, yes. That got an eight, because it's a super cool mechanical chronograph.
Andrew	But it's dangerous, is the issue with it. It's hard to maintain. It's prone to errors. I probably would have tended a little bit lower. I probably would have given it a six or a seven. just because it is notorious. Yeah. For having issues, which makes sense.
Everett	Well, and I gave it I gave it a bump from the 7S26. So my 7S26 watches get a seven.
Unknown	OK.
Everett	My Dan Henry got a seven movement score, and that is that Miyota alarm chronograph, which is cool as shit. That's right. So seven is a good movement score. So it won't surprise you when I tell you my next watch, which is the again as modded. Vostok Amphibia. This is an AM Diver mod. AM Diver is a German company that sells, that machines bezels and makes bezel inserts for standard Vostok Amphibia.
Andrew	Did you get a different, what was, I forget your project for insert, putting a new bezel insert in.
Everett	Yeah, so I got another bezel insert from AM Diver and installed it in this thing. Why did you have to file it? because they have two sizes. There's a weird thing. I don't know. AM diver is weird.
Andrew	They've got so but it came from the AM diver ecosystem.
Everett	Yes. Okay. Yes. Yeah, I did have to file this because there's two styles sizes of bezel insert. But the this is a teal insert coinage style bezel. If I had to go back and do this again, I wouldn't buy an AM diver. I would buy a Murphy bezel for this. And the reason for that is that he uses SKX size inserts on his. This is the AM diver is specific to them. But in any event, I've have it. It's in there. It looks fantastic. This thing came overall. I gave this thing a 50. It does really well in a few places. So just because you asked the movement, I gave it a seven. Same as 7S26. Okay. Where does it do? Where does it do well? Obviously, water resistance, it does well. The strap, it does really well because I wear this on a... Because you're on a Bark and Jack, right? Bark and Jack Nano, that's right. Aesthetic, it does really well. Durability, it does really well. I give this kind of a low X-Factor score. Are you kidding me?
Andrew	This is the, like, the epitome of X-Factor. This is building a watch, like reinventing a watch. This is a whole new universe of R&D. Like, hey, we have all these unemployed dudes who are really smart. Watches exist, but we want to build a new one. No, I don't. And they did that. I think it gets full X-Factor scores because of the engineering feat that it was to create this watch. I don't disagree with you.
Everett	Never mind that it's cool in Russian. Something about the way it makes me feel. It feels a little tacky to me. Well, of course it's tacky. It's Soviet. Well, so I give it a lower X-Factor score. That's my justification. That's all you're going to get out of me.
Andrew	Full marks for me for X Factor. Would you give it a 2? I gave it a 2 out of 5. So this watch gets a 53.
Everett	3 out of 5.
Andrew	Excuse me. I gave this thing a 3 out of 5 on X Factor. So this watch gets a 54 for me.
Everett	You know, it gets the same X Factor score as the AMW 320. Disagree. And yeah, that's the only other one that got a 3 out of 5.
Andrew	Gets some extra X Factor and it gets some extra movement.
Everett	It does better than the Easy Reader. I should hope so. It does better than the B1T. I should hope so. It does better than my next watch, which might surprise you.
Andrew	So no other watch in your collection had to revolutionize and recreate the watch.
Everett	You know, the way I do my X-Factor score is, how do I feel about it? How do I feel about it? Whatever. Next, next, next, next. One of my personal favorites, probably the watch. This is probably number two in my collection right now in terms of wear time.
Unknown	Okay.
Everett	Yeah, this is probably number two. This is the Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical. Now, some of you will remember a while back, I had both this watch and the newer Hamilton Khaki Mechanical in my hands. I've got a black dial. This is the older dial variant. So same exact case as the modern Field Mechanical, the current version. But this has a little bit different dial. The font is a little smaller. It doesn't have that same sort of W 10 style. I'm army, army, army, uh, uh, thing going on, which I like, right? It seems both more modern. Um, it just seems more modern. I really like Hamilton's font. I like their design choices with this dial. Uh, it's subdued in a way that new one isn't, uh, it just feels more mature to me.
Unknown	Mm.
Everett	And so having them both, and I really, I could have had either one of those watches for almost no difference in money, you know, based on what I was doing. And this is the one I went with for a couple of reasons, but primarily I just liked it better.
Andrew	I think you made the right choice. I liked that dial more also.
Everett	Yeah, I do. And you know what? I did a poll on Instagram, you know, which dial was better. And I think this one did slightly worse. I think they were pretty close. I think it was something like 55.45. in favor of the new dial, which was close enough for me to feel like, okay, I'm not being foolish. I like this one better, and that's the one I want. I would have done what I wanted anyway, but it's nice to air it out. What do you guys think?
Andrew	I mean, if it had tanked, you might have also got this one in spite. Maybe.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	By that time, I was pretty sure I knew what I was doing. Yeah, I wear this probably more than any other watch besides, well, I'll talk about that watch later. Is that a gray NATO that it's on?
Andrew	Yeah, this is a gray Bark and Jack. Kind of green too, I like that.
Everett	Yeah, you know, it's sort of got that bluish green gray cast to it. I like ocean. I love that color. And this is pretty much how I wear this. Sometimes I put it on a black. It's so money on a black. On a black NATO, but I really like the gray NATO.
Andrew	Have you put it on What size is it? It's 18, right? It's 20. It's 20. You should put it on brown leather. I think it'd look really good on that too. Like good deep chocolate.
Everett	Yeah. And I put this thing on brown leather. I actually like it on an 8-0.
Andrew	Oh, it's great on an 8-0. I just think it'd look also really good on brown leather. Certainly it does.
Everett	Yeah, no doubt about it. You know, this watch is so thin. because
Andrew	700, 695, right?
Everett	No, less than that. I mean, you can pick up a brand new Kaki Mechanical for 450, 500. Oh, I thought they were a little bit more, but. And this one, you can pick this up in mint condition used for 300 all day. Yeah, three bills. Yeah, 300 all day. I love it. And that got a score of 57.
Everett	Yes, that's right. So the khaki mechanical 57 and that starts around four watches. These next four watches all got a 57. Whoo. So starting with the khaki 57. So next up. The Emperor Diver. The Emperor Diver, a watch that some of you aren't going to know what it is. Go ahead and Google it. You can find these used. Plenty of people unloading these things for $250 to $350. This thing just does so well.
Andrew	11 water resistance. It is the cousin to the EMG Nemo. That's for those of you unfamiliar with it. If you're unfamiliar with it, you clearly have not been a listener for very long. It's the cousin to the EMG Nemo.
Everett	That's right. That's right. You know, 40 millimeter case, 20 millimeter lugs, 200 meters of water resistance. Fucking amazing loom. Light up the room loom. That's right. Yeah. Light up the room loom. I think it's deliciously good looking.
Andrew	I've got this super classic 70s styled skin diver.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	Yeah. I've got this thing on this with the stainless bezel. I have the blue dial stainless bezel. These also come with a PVD bezel 120 clicks super sort of crunchy in a good way. Clicky bezel a little hard to turn. It's kind of a spaceship style bezel.
Andrew	Yeah that thin bezel is hard to manipulate. But that
Everett	big boxy sapphire crystal. I love this thing. You know, I gave this thing kind of a low X factor score.
Andrew	Even though you were a party to designing it? Yeah. It's killer. It comes on a rockin Jubilee.
Everett	So for me, if I personally like this thing, but I think if I wasn't part of that operation, I might give this thing. I gave this thing a two. X factor score as if I wasn't part of that operation. I love it. This watch is very special to me. Um, with that said, if I wasn't part of that group, get an emo cause the Nemo is cooler.
Andrew	I think, I think the, I think the Nemo is cooler, but if this comes up and an emo comes up, get the Nemo. If only this is up, get this. This is a watch you're not going to regret. You're going to love having it because it has all the, the design cues of a dress diver. It has the right sizing. It has the right, uh, design, uh, DNA to be a super attractive, super versatile watch on a NATO. It's perfect with a t-shirt on a NA on a, on, on its Jubilee. It's perfect under a dress shirt. I think it'd even do well under a dress shirt on the NATO, like a black NATO that you have it on. I mean, it, it's super versatile. reasonably priced, but these are coming in at probably used 300. Yeah. It's like 250, 300. Yeah.
Everett	Really sort of classic case. Nice curves to it. Um, you know, when we, when we were making these things, we went with the NH 35 versus the 90 15. And so it's a bit tall.
Andrew	It definitely is a little bit tall.
Everett	It's a bit tall, but the, the case actually compensates for the movement under the case sides. So it's got that illusion of being thinner than it is. uh but dig this watch and it scored really well 57 on this guy yeah here i am talking to you like you scored it really poorly yeah no 57 it's a top four yeah in fact it did better i like other watches in my collection that came in underneath this one oh yeah i like other watches in my collection more than this one that came in lower because objectively this thing just ticks so many boxes next up next up tried and true Old trusty, my first watch, my first... Thoughtful purchase. Thoughtful purchase. The SKX007, currently on a Uncle Seiko, on an Uncle Seiko Z199 Jubilee strap.
Andrew	Which is money. I think I would... Oh yeah. I don't know if I got an SKX if I would change out the bracelet to one of the Uncle Seikos, but the Uncle Seiko is objectively better.
Everett	You know, it's interesting you say that because I sometimes feel like, gosh, this thing just needs to go back on the OG. Um, but this thing just wears so nice. It's so comfortable. It's more comfortable than the, than the jangly jubilee. But you don't get the jangle. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's still jangles.
Andrew	I think it's, but not anywhere near as much. And that was the difference between like keys in your pocket and reindeer flying overhead.
Everett	That's right. It's just so much nicer a bracelet that I have a hard time, I have a hard time not wearing it on this. But yeah, this, you know, where does this thing do really well? Obviously does really well on water resistance. Less well on size. Yeah, because it's what, 42? Yeah, 43, 42. Middle marks on movement, 7. Strap, I gave this thing a 7 because of the Z199. I like an OEM strap This thing is an OEM, so it gets downgraded a little bit.
Andrew	I think the bracelet, the OEM bracelet still scores a seven for me.
Everett	Yeah, I give it a six. Okay. Just because it's objectively lower quality probably. Look, I give this thing a 10. It's my favorite watch to look at. It is my favorite. Out of all of my watches, I am the most satisfied with the way this thing wears on my wrist, which is crazy to think about because I've had so many watches come through now. I still put this thing on and I'm like, Fuck, I love the way that thing looks. The case has that sort of, I don't know, this is a weird thing. I don't know if we've talked about this on the podcast before, but the case reminds me of a like Todd McFarlane pouch.
Andrew	Do you know what I mean? I've always felt like the case and the bezel didn't belong together. Like it was a weird design collision that just kind of happened and mostly worked?
Everett	Oh, you know, I totally disagree. I feel like they work so perfectly. I feel, yeah, I don't know. I actually think that the design language on this is, I mean, it's my favorite watch. It's my favorite watch. I wish that this watch was, you know, I kind of want this watch to have a nicer movement. I could put a nicer movement in it, right? It'd be pretty easy. Um, I kind of want it to have, better indicators or indices. But with that said, I don't really like the idea of modding this watch. You could get another one and mod that one. I could. I've thought about that a number of times. I just don't know if I want to expend the resources in that direction. I can dig that. Something about this watch, it was a great first decision for me, and I'll never get rid of it. I just love it.
Andrew	Every year around this time, Deep Blue blows out their inventory and does like 50 or more percent off all their watches. And I have always wanted to buy one to side-by-side it with the SKX. Because it's a straight rip from the SKX. Straight rip. A little bit bigger, right?
Everett	44 versus 42, I think.
Andrew	I think you're right about that. But barring everything else, straight rip. And I want to do a side-by-side.
Everett	You know, I think objectively, the Deep Blue is going to be better. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's going to be objectively better. With that said, it's not going to be this.
Andrew	And the strange part about the SKX is that it can go anywhere. It's not a dress diver. It's not a skin diver. There's nothing dressy about that watch, but it's yet somehow has this, at least in my eyes, and I think in the eyes of most watch people, has this kind of heritage behind it that allows it to transcend its appearance to go anywhere, do anything.
Everett	You know, I think it's got a lot to do with the polish on the case. Those case sides are really elegant.
Andrew	But nothing else about it is.
Everett	And the bezel, in spite of being tall, the bezels, it's got sort of a bisected top and bottom. It's almost like a two ring. coin edge, and it gives the appearance of jewels, right? A little bit, yeah. It's shiny. It's certainly polished. The bezel edge is what I'm talking about now, right? It's got sort of a jeweled look to it, and it catches the light just really pleasantly.
Andrew	It's dressy. The bezel insert is just such a flat color. The dial is so vanilla and so tool-watchy. It blows the mind. It's good though. It is. I've never disagreed.
Everett	So that's three of four of the 57 watches scored 57s. 57s. And the last one, the last of the 57s, there's one after this, right? The last of the 57s is... I don't have a drum roll button.
Andrew	Oh. Sorry. You just have a plows.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. That's not the same. No. is the Omega Speedmaster.
Andrew	57. Caveat. It's an important one.
Everett	Oh yeah, caveat. And you didn't like this, I could tell by the way your face. I gave this a couple of extra points in terms of size. So I scored this as if it was 40 and it's 42. It's a 42 millimeter case. And the reason I did this is because it wears like a 40. And I don't mean that in the same way that, you know, people say, oh, well, the lugs are shorter, so it wears smaller, or this or that. I think that this thing actually wears more like a 40 than a 42. And I think it's because of your wrist shape. Well, possibly. So it does have long lugs, right? So in that sense, this wears bigger than some 40s, right? Or even some 42s, because it does have long lugs. And it doesn't work on your wrist, because you've got those tube sock wrists. I do.
Andrew	But with that said... That the sock would fall down.
Everett	Two of those 42 millimeters are made up of the flange between the case size and the end of the pushers.
Andrew	And... Because I feel like this wears the same on my wrist as the 5600.
Everett	In terms of... Size. Size, yeah. Yeah, right. So, yeah, is that right or not? I don't know.
Andrew	I mean, it wears to me like a 40, so... But an important caveat to make. which is not to say this watch is too big. Because it's not. No. It's just it's a little it's a touch too long for me. Yeah. Yeah.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Although putting it on just now it's growing on me. It's still just a little bit too big.
Everett	Like by that you mean you're you're thinking about not taking it off.
Andrew	Oh I'm not. Yeah. I loctited the the clasp.
Everett	You know. Surprise. It probably won't surprise anyone. You know, I'm a man in my first year of speedy ownership. This thing doesn't come off my wrist very much. No, I can imagine. I wear this three or four days of every week.
Andrew	Do you Storm and Norman it and wear your SKX on your other wrist?
Everett	No, I haven't done that, but I should. I should. I just love it. You know, I made a strap for this recently, and I really like that strap. It's sort of a pass-through leather strap. It looks really good. the bracelet too much. The bracelet's money. I was like, God, I want that bracelet. So this is one of my two perfect scores in terms of strap. The other one went to the EAA chocolate leather on the HKED. This strap, this bracelet is just phenomenal.
Unknown	Mm hmm.
Everett	Phenomenal. I mean, it's gorgeous. It's comfortable. The clasp is artwork. Yeah, I've never seen another clasp I liked this much. you know, that curvy Omega's clasp. They're just killing the game. You know, Rolex, everybody likes the Rolex Glidelock, and I think they're fantastic. They don't have anywhere near as much sort of beauty, I don't think.
Andrew	It's subjective. No, I agree with you. I think their clasps leave a little bit wanting, given how deliberate everything else is in the design of those watches.
Everett	I think supremely functional, more functional than anything Omega sells.
Andrew	But I think they just leave me a little bit wanting.
Everett	They're just not, uh, they're not that interesting, right? Yeah. Um, but fantastic. I think a Rolex clasp is probably significantly better than this.
Andrew	I also... I don't like the way they look as much. I have in my mind that I really want Rolex on a stretchy bracelet.
Everett	On a twist-o-flex?
Andrew	Yeah, I don't know why. It just, it feels so much more appropriate to me. I don't know why.
Everett	I can see it, like a five digit sub or something.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	On a TwistoFlex. I think that'd be awesome.
Andrew	I don't, I have no answer for you because I feel like the Speedmaster belongs on that bracelet, but I feel.
Everett	Or an old Datejust on a TwistoFlex.
Andrew	I feel like a Datejust belongs on a, on a stretchy bracelet. I dig it, man.
Everett	I don't know. I like your style. Okay. So that leaves my last watch. This is my last watch. And we're only an hour. Jesus Christ. I'm sorry. It's okay. We're good. Okay, so my last watch, and this one just does so much better than everything else.
Andrew	In every category. Yeah, basically.
Everett	And super affordable. Super affordable. So this is the Saab 035.
Andrew	Gosh, I had the 033 in my Amazon cardigan the other day. I didn't buy it. You didn't buy it. No. No. I'm going to wait to buy any watches. I talked a little bit about it last week. I didn't want to buy watches this year. So I got one watch in this calendar year, and it was the Recraft, and I got it as a birthday present. But I wanted to... You just bought a G-Shock! That's what I'm saying. Barring this, if I found any other watch at 44% off, I would have bought that watch. If I could have spent under $50 on a watch I really wanted, I did it. And it was this one instance with the G-Shock. But I bought a lot of straps this year. I wanted to appreciate the watches that I have more. I wanted to create some more versatility with the watches that I owned. So like I almost bought a, um, Oh, what did I almost get? I almost got the, uh, Oh, the, uh, Laurier Falcon. Oh yeah. But they were sold out luckily. Cause I was, I was ready to buy it and you were like, I can text them. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is, this is a good thing. So, but anyway, I think that that'll be on my,
Everett	I think 2020, you're going to buy a couple of watches. That would be my guess.
Andrew	I'm going to buy a good handful of watches next year. Probably, probably four or five.
Everett	I like it. I like it. So yeah, the SARV, I mean, right? A hundred meters of water resistance. So it gets, which, you know, we, we made that water resistance score bias towards hundred meter watches, right? They can get a higher score for doing less. 100 meters, because that's everything you need. You need 100 meters, right?
Andrew	You really don't need any more. You don't. Unless you're doing technical diving.
Everett	It gets a fantastic score on size. Movement, I gave it an 8. I agree. This gets a good movement score. And the reason for that is this gets the same movement score as the 28-24 in the Hamilton Kaki.
Andrew	What was the movement score on the Speedy?
Everett	Oh, I gave it a 10 on movement. Yeah. Oh, no. Nope. Nope. I didn't give anything a 10 in terms of movement. I gave the speedy, so that's got an 1861, and I gave that a nine. What's a 10? A 10, I think, would be something better. You know, maybe a coaxial would get a 10. Okay. Maybe one of these chronometer quartz, you know, very, very high-end quartz.
Andrew	A spring drive would be a 10 for you?
Everett	A hack, yeah. Certainly a spring drive would be a 10. But, you know, give some room, right? Because an 1861's not a perfect movement, but it's fantastic. It's really damn good. It's really damn good. So this gets an eight in terms of movement, and that's because it's got a 6R. So same as the 2824 in the mechanical, the Hackey. The Hackey King, huh? The Hamilton Hackey Mechanical. You know, a little bit nicer than the 7S. I think Hackey's a good nickname for it. Hackey. The Hackey. It does really well in terms of Bracelet strap. It gets an eight because I love this bracelet. It's quirky. Some people don't like this bracelet. I think it's great. A nine unlocks. Yeah. An eight in durability because I wear the shit out of this thing. I've stomped this thing. Yeah. And it still looks fantastic. Loom, it gets a three because the loom's salvageable. And X-Factor gets a 459. This is a very, very good watch.
Andrew	very good watch. I mean, I think in, in the realm of affordables, the realm of the under $500 watch, it could be one of the best purchases. I think it is. I'm hard pressed to find off the top of my head, a better, more versatile, more better, more highly spec'd watch.
Everett	It's it for me. If you, if you say, Hey, I have a watch. I wear, I wear a shirt, uh, to work. Um,
Andrew	Most people wear shirts to work. There are very few professions that don't.
Everett	When I say a shirt, I mean a shirt with buttons.
Andrew	Okay, because I always think lifeguards and strippers are the only two people that don't.
Everett	I mean a shirt with buttons. Boxers don't. You know, I want something to be dressy, versatile, that also looks good in a t-shirt, totally versatile.
Andrew	Yeah, because you throw that thing on a NATO and dang.
Everett	Because what are the watches that we compare this to? You know, there's a number of micro brands that are certainly that Atticus we talked about earlier. is a very similar watch.
Andrew	The Falcon is super similar. I think the dial is inferior to the Saab dial. If we're looking at straight, objective comparison, that textured dial loses some of the versatility. It turns it sportier than dressy. And this is a perfect collision of those two things. But we've got the whole Laurier line.
Everett	Yep. Any number of these dress sport watches that have come out in the last year are comparing. But what else What else in sort of big watch world, the PRS, that Tissot, there's a couple Tissots that compare.
Andrew	I think some of the Citizens do, but they just don't get the same specs out of it. You've got... This is it. I mean, at the price point, yeah, this is it. This is it.
Everett	It's the best watch under 500 bucks. I mean, almost without a doubt. I love it. Totally love it. I'm so glad I have it in my collection. I do sometimes think Gosh, would I like the 033 better? Nah, I don't know. I don't know. I kind of like a black dial, but this thing, just this sort of white cream dial is so great.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	That is the status of my collection, state of the collection, my collection inspection complete.
Unknown	Woo!
Everett	How do you feel? We powered through a lot. You know, I'm sorry. You guys, we got this suggestion from Mr. Cortman, I.Cortman. He really wanted it. So we give the people what they want. Hopefully you wanted this. Hopefully this wasn't terribly boring. Because it may have been.
Andrew	Fuck, this may be boring. We didn't talk about our Invictus though.
Everett	You know, we didn't. And we need to talk about that. We'll save it. There's been a problem with the Invictus. It's a problem with the way they attach the dials.
Unknown	Oh no.
Everett	To the movement. We're figuring it out. And when we figure it out, We'll get back to those.
Andrew	And our one year anniversary giveaway.
Everett	And our one year anniversary. But we're not going to do that big giveaway until I figure out the issue. And I will figure it out. I believe in you. So if you're wondering, where's the giveaway watch? There's an issue. We're figuring it out. We're getting there. Done. Other things. Andrew, my friend.
Andrew	I was not prepared for this.
Everett	OK. Well, how about I do another thing, and then if you have one, then you can talk about it, and if not, you don't. Do me. I saw The Irishman in the theater this week. You saw it in theaters? Yes, I did. It's on Netflix. I know, and I went and watched it in the theater. And I recommend you watch The Irishman in the theater. It is gorgeous. Totally gorgeous. Go to the best theater you can find and watch it. And it's not Star Wars lasers. There's nothing
Andrew	Visually, there's some visual downsides to it. Outstanding. The effects on Robert De Niro were odd.
Everett	They were odd. You know, and we were talking about this. Kim and I were talking about this. I think it was the eyes because I think everything else. But there was some uncanny valley with De Niro's character. But I recommend seeing in the theater. Yeah, I recommend seeing in the theater. I thought it was so good. And I wanted to see it in the theater because I am a sucker for Scorsese. I'm a sucker for Pacino. I'm a sucker for fucking Joe Pesci. Can we give it up for a second for Joe Pesci? I think we always should. I think Joe Pesci is maybe one of the most underrated actors of the late 20th century. You know, he's the second fiddle. He's a little bit silly, right?
Andrew	He's silly. I think it's because he has all the behaviors of a kind of 80s slapstick comedian.
Everett	Yeah, he's my cousin Vinny. Yeah, he is my cousin Vinny. But phenomenal. His performance in this movie is totally, totally incredible. Yeah. I mean, Joe Pesci as Russ Buffalino Bruschetta.
Andrew	All right, I'm ready for my other thing. So I've watched the first half of that movie because it's three and a half hours long. So for me, not going to the theater, I had to break it up.
Everett	I think that's reasonable.
Andrew	What I broke it up with was just going to a different movie. Yeah. Whatever. And I watched Shot Caller, another Netflix movie, and it leads with, uh, so the lead is Nikolaj Koster Waldau, Waldo? I don't know. It's Jamie Lannister. Bruschetta. Yeah. It's Swedish or some shit. I don't know. I'm American, man. Let's leave it at that. It's Jamie Lannister and it is the story of a, just a white collar stockbroker.
Everett	I love how our other things is. Let me check my Netflix watching history. Yeah.
Andrew	Well, no, so I have... It doesn't matter. No, no, I think that's reasonable. So, it's this white-collar stockbroker fella who ends up going to the clink.
Everett	And he gets a relatively short sentence, but... As we do for our white-collar stockbroker criminals. But... Because, you know, they're white.
Andrew	They should... But because his crime was violence against a person, he gets housed with all the other violent criminals. Good. And as a result, he gets tangled up with a white power gang. Not good. And over the course of the balance of his life, he basically becomes the white power gang king. And it is the story of his ascent to power and his personal conflict with that. And I think it was a really, really beautiful telling of the uh, of how easy it is to get into that world and how it, and, and how just totally normal people end up there. Like the, like that breaking point that you see out of, out of people and like, well, how the hell did this little angel turn into white devil?
Everett	How did you become a fucking Nazi?
Andrew	Yeah. And this is basically a story of how, uh, how Homie became a Nazi and became the Nazi shot caller.
Everett	I hope it's not overly sympathetic because fuck that guy, by the way.
Andrew	It's absolutely not sympathetic. Good. It is. I'm not going to give any spoilers on the show, but I'll talk to you about it after we wrap because it was beautiful the way they told that story and they show that inner conflict.
Everett	I like it. Yeah. Anything else you got for me today?
Andrew	Nah, bro.
Everett	All right. I don't think I have anything else. I guess we can pan on that. Thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20. Please check us out on the Instagram at 40 and 20. If you want to support the show, we got our support through Patreon, like so many other places. That's how we pay for hosting and our baby's education and college fund. Patreon.com. They're not doing well, by the way. Slash 40 and 20. Don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.