Episode 43 - Dress Sport Watches

Published on Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:00:00 -0700

Synopsis

The hosts Andrew and Everett discuss upcoming watch releases like the Seiko "Arnie" reissue, Atra watch, Traska Summiteer, and Serica William M. Brown edition. They analyze whether certain watches fit their criteria for a "dress sport" or versatile watch that can be dressed up or down. They also recommend some affordable options like the Tissot PR100 quartz chronometer and Sertina DS1 automatic. The conversation covers other topics like hot sauces, TV shows, and their knives as well.

Towards the end, they encourage listener participation by submitting watch photos and questions. They thank their supporters and promote their Patreon page. Overall, it's an engaging and wide-ranging discussion centered around affordable watches suitable for different occasions and styles.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is the 40 in 20 podcast with your host Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm doing really well. I ate carbohydrates today. Woo and sugar. It was pretty fun. It was like, oh yeah, donut. I'm going to eat you.
Andrew Like living like a grown up again.
Everett Oh, yeah, potato chips. I'ma eat you. I'ma fuck you up. Oh, Annie's shells and cheese. Don't mind if I do. What cheese? Annie's shells and cheese.
Andrew Oh, OK. Shells and cheese. I thought you said like Shoshin cheese. And I was like, what's a Shoshin cheese? And why do I not know of it? And how stinky is it?
Everett Because it's from Annie's Japanese line of organic foods.
Andrew Is my experience the stinkier the cheese, the more better the cheese?
Everett Yeah. No, I mean, I think there's something to that.
Andrew Yeah, but I wasn't, I just hadn't heard of a herd of Shoshin cheese. So I was concerned maybe you like had it buried in your backyard and were. Yeah, it's fermented Japanese style. I don't even like thinking about that.
Everett Uh, no, you know, fermentation is such a cool process, right? Cause you take, you take something, that's beer. It is. So you know what I'm going to drink? I'm going to drink real beer. A beer that has lots of carbs in it. Cause I can for like four days.
Andrew Sours are, insanely sugar and carbohydrate packed.
Everett Carbalicious.
Andrew Yeah, you are. Wait, only four days you're breaking from keto?
Everett Boys go crazy. Yeah. Yes. Four days. Uh, Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday night. So all of Wednesday, all of Thursday, all of Friday, all of Saturday.
Andrew This is bullshit. I was excited to like go eat something with you, but. We could go eat something. I might go five days. I'm busy Saturday.
Everett I'm busy Saturday too.
Andrew then keep it broken on Sunday to recover.
Everett I'm doing, uh, I'm doing like a race carbohydrate loading. I'm carbohydrating for hood to coast.
Andrew I'm not real familiar with the science behind humans, so I can't, I don't know if that's, what's that going to do to your butt?
Everett I don't know. It could do bad things. I'm not familiar with science either. I just felt like it was a good opportunity to eat some carbs. Okay. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm doing a relay race. We have a relay race out here in the Northwest called Hood to Coast. I think Hood to Coast is kind of the granddaddy of the big relay races, but they do them all over the place now. You know, every state has a big multi-team, you know, or multi-member team type relay event. Hood to Coast, I think we do 200 miles. We run from basically the, well, the Timberline, Timberline Lodge on Mount Hood. right on down to seaside. You basically take a straight shot out to the ocean along the highways. So 200 miles, 12 man teams, you're on three legs. I think I've got one of the shorter legs. I'm only running like 16, but my second leg in the middle of the night is like up the coastal range. Yeah. It's like a 2000 foot elevation gain. It's crazy. It might not be quite 2000.
Andrew Turkeys are going to roost outside.
Everett Oh, so yeah. Yeah. So I ate carbohydrates and now I'm drinking carbohydrates.
Andrew And I mean, last night we had a had a banger of a meal, if you will.
Everett Oh, Lord. So I guess I mean, I guess we should talk about it, right? I mean, I think we're obligated to. Yeah. So so my wife, my wife, wonderful woman she is. I was doing I was doing some government obligation work this last weekend. And my wife, in my stead, went to the hot sauce festival in Portland, which I didn't know existed. Shame on you. Shame on me. Shame on you. So Kim goes to the hot sauce festival. She meets the guy from Pucker Butt. She meets all these sort of hot sauce celebrities to the extent that's an actual even possible thing.
Andrew I mean, I'd argue it's a niche market. There's pepperheads.
Everett Right. Is it possible that we're affordable watch celebrities? Maybe. Yeah. So they're hot sauce celebrities in the same way.
Andrew So they're bigger than we are for sure.
Everett Perhaps. But she meets all these sort of semi-famous people that have been on Hot Ones or whatever, you know, or that are kind of in that community. Anyway, that was cool. I was jealous of that. But then she got just a bucket load of dope hot sauces. Yes. So everything from like a fairly mild, you know, maybe 2000 Scoville breakfast-y green sauce.
Andrew I think that's probably higher. I think the most mild one was probably that that smoky tamarind one, that ancho.
Everett She just did really, really good job. She got like seven or eight hot sauces, everything from pretty mild, a couple that were hot. One of them that was blistering hot. Dangerous, scary, dangerous. Yeah. Yeah. So we made wings for the whole thing and kind of went up the ladder. You know, by the end, I think we were both experiencing this, but there was some like desensitivity.
Andrew I think we were broken. We had the hottest one and I tried that one. No, I think that the chicken is going to reduce the heat a little bit, but I tried that one on just a spoon and I was like, ah, ah, blew some fire out my mouth. Uh, and then we put it on a wing and I needed more. Like we, we put quite a bit of that on the wings that we consume tonight. I'm going to chalk that up to our mouths being just blown out and having no more sensation left.
Everett It's possible because the rest of my body has told me that it was actually hot.
Andrew Just my booty hole. That's really the only consequence I'm feeling right now. My guts feel like a little bit like they're they're forcing lava. Yeah. And my esophagus felt a mild chemical burn. But it's really just a stage three that I'm experiencing right now.
Everett Yeah. Stage two was worse for me today than stage three. So but yeah, the coolest thing was that Fuego chocolate bar.
Andrew Holy cannoli. That was the hottest thing I've ever eaten in my life. Bar none.
Everett It's this square of chocolate. It's not terribly big.
Andrew It might be... It was like two Andes mints. Wide. It was small.
Everett It might be inch and a half by inch and a half. And we, you know, there's a challenge where you're supposed to eat the whole thing. We split it up. But yeah, I think I had just about half of that piece of chocolate and I was hurting. But the girls were both like in panic mode. I think you were borderline panic.
Andrew I was on the verge of panic. I was just so... I was just so surprised. Because I tasted it and I was like, oh, it's sweet and it's delicious.
Everett And there's like little chunks of something in here. Yeah, those are peppers.
Andrew Those. Yeah, they are. And I was thinking they're like almonds or hazelnut or something delicious. And I'm not on them. And suddenly no peppers. Something was there was a there was a tiny human in my throat trying to punch its way out like square out of alien. You know, when when the aliens trying to punch out of the guts, that was what was happening in my throat. And I went into a little bit of a panic because It was so unexpected and also so hot, especially compared to the fact that we just had poison. Really hot. Doused our wings in poison. And then I had that and I was like, oh, whatever, it's chocolate. Oh no!
Everett Yeah, no, it was worse than the worst of the, it was worse than the worst of the hot sauces. Yeah, it was. And that one hot sauce, I can't remember, I should have it here so we could talk about it. It's Reaper XXX. Reaper XXX, which is from a hot sauce company. I took a picture of it. It's one of those like specialty sauces that you have to order and that they wouldn't let her try at the tent. Oh, it's from Puckerbutt. Is it from Puckerbutt? Okay. You know, they wouldn't let her try it. They were like, eh, this is too hot. You can't try this here because we'll get sued. And so we had just finished that. Like the hot sauce is so hot that they don't let you try it.
Andrew Yeah. And we didn't try a little bit. You probably put a teaspoon or so per wing. and toss them in it. Yeah. And then we added an easy teaspoon or more. Easy. Yeah.
Everett I would say two teaspoons of peas on top of that. So going from that feeling like, you know, kind of.
Andrew Concerned that nothing was happening?
Everett Yeah. I think we were both a little cavalier going from that to that chocolate, which was like, oh my gosh, something's happening. A lot of something was happening. A lot of things happening. So we broke out the keto ice cream, which was the only thing in the house that could have possibly done anything. And it was helpful. But it was also not good. No, it's not good. I mean, it's keto good. That means not good.
Andrew I'm sorry, man. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, it was a good experience to try it, but I mean, the girls had, I mean, a pea size of that chocolate and they were both in tears, meltdown, weeping, uh, such that even my, my four year old was asking my wife, are you okay? Why are you crying? And he was still concerned when we got home that she was crying and weeping. so yeah it was uh it was something they were delicious though i i was worried that i was worried that like there was going to be some sort of medical emergency or something and we were all going to be just have nothing yeah we just incapacitated yeah uh and i'm on friday i'll be trying some of da bomb oh yeah that's that's also a famous you know
Everett I think we just assume you guys are as into hot sauce as we are, but I assume we have a problem. 90% of our listeners are like, why are they still talking about hot sauce?
Andrew And what are you doing to yourselves? The medical repercussions that you're subjecting yourselves to are akin to smoking. I don't think that's a thing. Is that a thing? I don't know. I'm sure chemical burns in your esophagus aren't great.
Everett Yeah. I mean, I like chemical burns.
Andrew The booty hole for chemical burn is not so bueno though, I can tell you that. Yeah, that's true.
Everett That's true. Like I said, it wasn't so much booty hole for me today. It was more, more GI tract. Oh man. You're making a scene. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So, uh, okay. Hot sauce. We're sorry, you guys. We're, we're, we're sorry.
Andrew Hey, you're joining us for beers. You're going to have to listen to our bar talk.
Everett And so you're drinking fine Pilsner beer. Got the fine Pilsner beer. I'm drinking ecliptic. Tucana? Ecliptic Tucana, which is a tangerine sour and oh boy, how I have missed a sour beer. Sour beer is my favorite by the way, which, and I just can't drink it. No, it's so much sugar in it. On keto, I just can't drink it. It's just completely off limits. What's happening?
Andrew Well, I couldn't figure out why the turkeys and your neighbors were so loud through the window. It's because your window's open. But so the turkeys are going to roost right now. So I imagine you guys probably can't hear the turkeys. And for those of you unfamiliar, turkeys make some noise. So all these, I know you have 30 turkeys or so in your neighborhood and they're all going to roost. So they're all making a big scene and I can hear all 20 of them outside just gobbling a storm.
Everett We have watch news. We do. We have some watch news. Uh, you know, I actually, one of the things I think we've talked about a couple of times in the past and that has sort of been going through my mind, the, the podcasts, the watch podcasts in particular that I really enjoy listening to, um, you know, 10 and two is brand new, but they've been just killing it. Um, Scottish watches. I, I absolutely adore it. Those guys are so funny, and their dynamic is so interesting. But one of the things I notice that those guys both do, those groups of podcasters both do, is they do sort of watch news. Now, Scottish Watches is a twice-a-week show, and I think that their show is almost all watch news. Here's what's happening in the watch world, which is pretty cool. They're targeting a segment that's different than me. Um, but they're sort of every time they're on, you're learning kind of what's happening and they follow trends in, you know, uh, watch popular culture and, and who's saying what, and who said this thing and who's kind of fighting about whatever. I don't necessarily know that I'm super interested in that. In the drama drama? In the gossip, in the watch gossip. However, It's gotta be such a small market. I do think that we could do a better job of giving you guys sort of updates on what's interesting, what's happening. So I think we're going to try to make an effort to give you a little bit of watch news each week, whether that's one thing that we've noticed on a blog to watch or worn and wound, um, you know, or, or anywhere. Or some new drops. Or some new drops. That's right. So, um, you know, just kind of, just kind of ears to the ground. Cause we do, I mean, we spend all week looking at this stuff and there's always stuff we could talk about and we just oftentimes don't.
Andrew And if you see something, say something.
Everett If you see something, say something. Loose lips sink ships. Exactly.
Andrew That's exactly the opposite saying. Those are complete opposite sides of the spectrum.
Everett You know what? I don't know what either one of them means. So, you know, I think a lot of you guys will know this already. And in fact, a number of you have already even sort of hit me up on it. But Seiko, Arnie, this was announced, I think, at Basel.
Andrew Sounds right. I don't remember exactly, but that sounds right.
Everett Seiko announced that they were going to re-release the famous Arnie Digituna, not, you know, Anidigi Tuni.
Andrew Wow. I'm drunk on carbs. Yeah. I mean, that'll happen. You're on a crazy sugar high right now.
Everett A quarter of a beer and doughnuts. Doughnuts. And so I'm totally drunk. Baselworld 2019, Seiko announces that they're going to re-release the famous Arnie, the Anidigi dive style tuna shrouded Arnie watch named after, you know, or at least nicknamed after our Austrian, uh, California governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Andrew It's so good. It's really in the way of reissues. This is, this is it.
Everett And he wears this in predator, right? Oh, yeah. Commando or both. Oh, no, I don't remember. You know, we should remember we're going to have to turn on our 80s kids card. And Andrew doesn't even barely get the 80s kids card. Oh, do you?
Andrew Yeah. Oh, I thought you were a 90s kid. I was born in the 80s.
Everett All right. Well, I grew up in the 80s, so I'm a little embarrassed to say that I don't know if it was one or the other or both, but maybe hopefully one or the other.
Andrew Let's be real here.
Everett What if I just scroll down here? OK, so Arnie rocking the Arnie in Commando.
Andrew It's interesting those two movies look so similar when you have screenshots of them.
Everett The Arnie or the Seiko H558-5009, as you'd see in Seiko's back catalog, became iconic as the favorite wristwatch of Arnold Schwarzenegger, who wore it on screen in Predator and Commando.
Andrew Which were probably shot on the same location at the same time. Right. They just did them back to back.
Everett So both were right. They released, I think, three new variants of this. Um, obviously different, uh, different reference numbers. These, these are going to be a little bit different. Um, it's a 47.8 millimeter shrouded and a digi watch with, with a dive bezel. So that sounds huge, but it's going to have shortish lugs and it's, they're going to curve down sharply. I guarantee this watch. Isn't going to feel like a 50 dang near 50 millimeter watch. I say that without having any clue.
Andrew They feel pretty close. I mean, those shrouds make the watch feel. big. It's big. When you're rocking a shrouded watch, it ought to be.
Everett That's right. It's not going to feel as if you had made a 47 millimeters Sarb 035 or something. No. It's going to be, it's going to be proportionally, uh, proportionally effective at that size, you know, and different people have different risks and who knows what's going to work. Um, but yeah, so, so three references, the SNJ025, SNJ027, And SNJ 028. The 025 is sort of classic Seiko dive colors, red, Diver's 200, black and silver motif, dot dash dot type of deal. The 027 is a Pepsi paddy case and or bezel at the very least. And the 028 is I believe a gilt hand and marker type deal.
Andrew That's my favorite one. I didn't expect it to be, and it definitely is. It looks so right.
Everett So solar on these, and I'm glad it's solar and not kinetic. Oh, yeah. Solar on these, they are quartz. They are quartz for obvious reasons, being an anodigy type watch.
Andrew Can you tear the band-aid off and tell me how much they cost?
Everett You know, 525 to 550 is the announced price. I suspect they'll probably be in the $400 range on the actual, you know, street value. Out on the streets. On the streets.
Andrew I think that's a good price on that. That's a really, I mean, being courts, but for what you're getting out of that, I think that's a really reasonable price.
Everett Right? Yeah. I mean, I think even at 500 bucks, it's a plastic shroud. or probably a quote-unquote resin shroud, steel everything, steel lugs, rubber strapped, which I think makes just a ton of sense on these. It has to be. Yeah, and I think this is going to be Seiko's sort of higher-end silicone. You know, their mid-to-high silicone. That's really good, too. Yeah, it's a good strap. So these are killer. They're fun. You should check them out. We got hit up by a couple people, but of course, we were already tracking that shit. I think we've talked about this before. Perhaps.
Andrew A couple times. I mean, almost like we're really excited to see him coming out. Just double dipping.
Everett Double dipping. And then I've got some personal watch news. Uh-oh. I got some personal watch news. I got a new watch. Only one? No, well, kind of. I mean, I got two watches, but really only one. I picked up a Hamilton Hackett, a Hamilton Khaki Mechanical.
Andrew It's so good, guys.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew It's so good. I do have to say, For someone, I have pretty round wrists. You got tube wrists. I do. I have cylinders for forearms. And as a function of that, it's a little bit long lug to lug for me.
Everett Yeah, the lugs are on these... Go ahead.
Andrew It's just a little bit long lug to lug for me. On a NATO it worked, but it just, it felt, it protruded quite a bit. There was visible space on all sides of the watch. It almost looked like I had a foil puck between my wrist and the watch. And it wasn't NATO-related. It was just the shape of my wrist against the shape of the watch.
Everett Yeah, the lugs on these are long, and it's kind of one of the hallmarks of this style of watch. But in particular, these Hamilton khaki mechanicals are known for having long lugs. So if you're going to wear this on a two-piece strap, you're going to notice some gap at the end of it. That's something I am not a huge fan of. I've got a couple of watches that wear that way. My HKAD 1963 has pretty long... Strap gap? Strap gap. Did we just coin a phrase? Maybe we did. Strap gap?
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Can you give me a high five?
Andrew We're so far away, it's hard to high five.
Everett We're a little far away. So yeah, but you know, I'm going to wear this thing on a NATO anyway. So what me worry?
Andrew Start putting up... Two pieces on those and posting pictures on the gram and hashtagging them Strap Gap.
Everett Strap Gap. We should definitely do that. Strap Gap Saturday.
Andrew Don't do that. Do it. Please do it.
Everett I do have to make a slight caveat because this is not the current version of this. So in 2018, Hamilton sort of upgraded these with a 28,800 beat. per whatever interval hour, a 28, eight movement. Uh, so this has the older 21, six movement and, and they, and they upgraded the dial. So the dial now is this very vintage kind of, um, you know, real sort of forties, fifties style mechanic, you know, hack watch style. This is the slightly older version with kind of more refined. Um, still painted markers, but kind of, you know, print printed markers, a little bit more refined, a little bit more of that sort of two thousands Hamilton style. So, so old logo on the, on the sign crown old logo on the back. Um, so it's just a little different. And if you've looked at these, you probably know what I'm talking about. I do have to say that I was wanting one of the new ones and this one came to me for. Such a good deal. I got this along with an Armida A11, which is a 36mm dive watch that I'm probably just going to sell. Although, I don't know for sure yet.
Andrew It's a really good size. When I put it on, I was really impressed with how good a 36mm dive watch felt.
Everett Yeah, you know, me too. I was surprised too. It's too small for me. I know I wouldn't like It's just a little too small for me. I could deal with it at 38, 36. If it were thinner, I think is the key. It's a little chunky too, yeah. So the Armida A11, you know, you won't be able to find anything online about them because just about nothing has been written about them except that all the forum trolls are like, oh, it looks like a girl or a little boy's watch.
Andrew It's a little boy's watch. Well, I'm not a very large man, so let's fight.
Everett You know, it is pretty small though. It's diminutive. And it's a sub-homage, sub-homage, sub-homage, capital S, capital H, which is probably not my thing. So in any event, that thing is going to move on in one direction or the other. And I got those two in a trade from my Orthos commander, which had just sort of been on my to-go list. And I couldn't pass these up because really what I wanted was one of the 2018 hacks. But then this thing walked in my door and now I don't know. I might just keep this.
Andrew You know what you could do? What? You could buy one of the 2018s and then give me whichever one you like least.
Everett Oh yeah, that's a great idea. That's a really good idea. I know. Full of them. If I sold these both, I could easily afford the new one. Yeah. Easily. So to help me make my decision, Instagram user at Aggressive Timing Habits is going to send me a copy of the 2018 version to just sort of compare side to buy side and see, you know, When I when this thing was coming, I was immediately planning on posting these things. But as I thought more, I realized these things are a little harder to find now. They're certainly not worth more money, but I kind of like the idea that I have sort of a discontinued the older version. So yeah, I don't know. I'm undecided yet on which one I'm going to keep.
Andrew I like to see them side by side. Yeah, I think that's going to be the the selling point for me personally in my and giving it my vote as to whether or not the upgrades were upgrades or just changes.
Everett Yeah, well, it's definitely a better movement, but outside of the dial, I think, or outside of the logo, I think the cases are exactly the same. So exact same case, new dial, and a better movement. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Are we going to talk about watches? We have been. Yeah, no, that's true. Is there anything else? That's all I have for watch news. We could talk about the new straps that I got. I mean, or we could save those for another day. Yeah, we'll save those. Yeah. OK. You got anything? No, nothing of value.
Andrew That's pretty usual. You sound so sad. No. I mean, I could just talk if you guys would like to hear that. I can I can talk for days about nothing.
Everett We could do that and be semi on topic. So let's do that.
Andrew OK. So this week we're revisiting Something that we have both really enjoyed doing. A series, if you will. We're going to revisit some watch styles. And this week, our watch style that we're revisiting, or we're revisiting for the first time, is the sport dress watch. Big surprise because this has been... I think you said those in the wrong order. Sport dress? Dress sport? I think dress sport. Okay. I'll accept that. Because big surprise here, we've been talking about these watches all of this year, and you heard it here first when we said in January that this was going to be the watch of the year. And we're seeing that come to fruition a little bit late, but just in time for us to still be able to say we said it first. We called it. We did call it. And frankly, no one should be surprised.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew I think lots of people maybe called it. This is where watches have been trending towards. A little bit smaller, a little bit more versatile. So today we're going to talk about some of our absolute favorites. Talk about the style, what we like, don't like. I hear hoedown music going on in your neighbor's house.
Everett They're hoedown kind of guys.
Andrew And they're really getting it. Sorry. So we're going to get into it. Let's, let's, dive in, talk a little bit about the style, talk about the criteria. So first, I want you to hit on the criteria that we set, because this is kind of an ambiguous style.
Everett No, it's super ambiguous. It's super ambiguous. I think that's right. So we made some rules.
Andrew We set some rules that are now going to be chiseled in stone as to what a dress sport watch is.
Everett And I put them in order sort of in terms of least to most flexible. So one, it's a watch that can be dressed up or dressed down. So I need to be able to wear it in t-shirt and I need to be able to wear it in the office. So maybe not black tie, but I need to be able to wear it in the office. And I think in that way, these sometimes get referred to as go anywhere, do anything watches or a gatta watch. I don't like that term because it sounds weird. Gatta. It types out okay, so... Coder watches? Gatta? Go anywhere, do anything? Gatta? I'll accept that as a terminology for it, but... I'm gonna call them dress sport watches. So no dye bezel, no GMT bezel, no external tachymeter, nothing like that. Nope. Sterile. Rule number three, not full blasted. It's gotta have some sort of interest, polish, chamfered probably on the outside. It's got to qualify for a dress watch. It can't be pure blessed. It probably can't be pure brushed either. Uh, some water resistance because of the sport angle of this or the Gata angle. It's got to have more than 50. So, so I think a hundred plus is ideal bonus for a screw down crown.
Andrew Yeah, I think that's right. I, I'd like to see 200 out of it, but I know that's kind of an unrealistic expectation.
Everett Yeah, that's a reach. So optional but preferred little side rules.
Andrew It would be nice if it came on a bracelet. That was one of the ones that I was going to add. I would say this watch has to come on a bracelet because you got to know that it's going to be able to rock a bracelet and that bracelet's got to be matched to it. And any of these watches Also, if it comes on a bracelet, are more likely than not going to look good on rubber, NATO, leather. That's going to be your versatility in the way of where and when you can wear it.
Everett And again, we're going from, we went from least or least to most flexible. So we're in very flexible territory here, but it's, it's a soft rule. Got to come on a bracelet. It's got to have loom. It's got to have loom.
Andrew I mixed feelings on it.
Everett Uh, and, and it should be greater than or equal to, no, excuse me, less than or equal to 40 millimeters in diameter.
Andrew And I think that's, that's number two for me.
Everett To be a true go, you know, but some people are like, you know, Andre the Giant and have nine interests.
Andrew Yeah, but we're not talking to Andre the Giant.
Everett He's going to need a Panerai. And that's going to be small. So for, for the average normal dude, got to be 40 millimeters or less. Yep. Okay. Those are, those are the rules. Again, rule number one, totally not flexible, has to be dressed up or dressed down. That's super subjective, though. Really the big one, no dive bezel, GMT bezel, or external tack, and it's got to have some polish, and it's got to have some water resistance. Those are the three sort of overriding themes, right? I think bracelets are important, too. Yeah, but some of these watches we're going to talk about today don't come on a bracelet.
Andrew Then they don't count.
Everett I also wrote down some sort of icons or, or, um, you know, some of these are icons. Some of them are just sort of axiomatic, um, you know, in terms of their place in this field. So, uh, the one I probably like the best, and maybe it's cause it feels like it's the one that most accessible, but the sin five, five, six, or Zen five, five, six, um, you know, these, I don't know that these have any polished surfaces on them, but they get away with it with their simple refinement.
Andrew Yeah. Everything about it says, dress up and down.
Everett Obviously, Rolex Explorer, the Omega Aqua Terra, which is one of the newer entries, but also just just nails it nails it down. The Ball Engineer and and perhaps I wrote this with a with a paren question mark Rolex Datejust. You know, I think that's sportier, but I think that it's got that sort of oyster case and water resistance, and I think it fits the bill. And frankly, it's a Rolex. It's a Datejust. It's like the watch. Yeah. It's the watch. So, you know, I kind of got interested in this style of watch, and interested is maybe the wrong word. I sort of got obsessed with this style of watch when the Manta released the Triumph back in whatever, 17? Yeah, it's been like two years. Um, and you know, it's got that big sort of flat brushed bezel and, um, the, the high, high chamfered or highly polished chamfers. And I was like, this is just, this is something else. This is the watch I want. And they're too expensive for me. You're at the, you know, I just don't want to spend $1,400 on a, on a watch like that.
Andrew Um, well, it's not maybe want, maybe can. Yeah, I mean... Or should. There's a whole... Maybe some better adjectives.
Everett I probably shouldn't. Yeah. And so really kind of outside of my reach. Christopher Ward has their C65, their vintage. The Mark II, I think, is out right now, and it's just absolutely delicious. All the edges. It's going on like 900. So really, these are fairly high-end watches that are available. You can get them. But for me, and where I'm at, and where I suspect a lot of you are at, too, they're high end. They're high end.
Andrew And you want it now. You don't want to wait for this watch for three years. You want it now.
Everett What can I get for less than, you know, say $600, $700? Halio Seaforth is the last one that I kind of want to give lip service to because I think it's another fine one that fits the bill. You know, obviously, sterile bezel Seaforth is what we're talking about. And it fits the price model. They're a little hard to get. Jason's distribution model is such that these are a little tricky to get. So you can get them certainly on the used market. But it's always been a little bit of an elusive brand for me for that reason, I think. So we'll give them a mention. Please look at them. But I kind of excluded them early on from the conversation.
Andrew I can get behind that. Accessibility is important.
Everett Yeah. And they don't feel super accessible to me. Hallios. At least not yet. But there are three watches coming out this year that I'm pumped, that I'm pumped about.
Andrew And they're all accessible. Well, not right now, but they all are about to be accessible in the way of price and in the way of availability. And I don't know how many of these are going to be sold out on pre-order. I imagine at least two probably will be.
Everett Yeah, I think that's right. Well, why don't we just start? Why don't we just start with the Atra? Let's do it. So Atra is a new company. It's a brand new company that's never released a watch. Um, this is a company that's out of New York, um, started by a fella named Lucas and Lucas is just a watch dude. You can tell listening to this guy talk, he's got a watch you see official thread that he runs. Um, and you can just tell he's a watch dude. He just loves watches. And he has released a watch that was up until a few weeks ago known as the Milus, Milus, I think. And he realized that the branding needed some work. And so he changed the watch name to Atra, which personally, I thought it was fine before. I'm not sure this was needed, but he did it. And there you are. This is a dress sport watch.
Andrew It's a dress sport watch. In every sense of the word. Yeah. optional bracelet that it comes on. Polished, plain, refined.
Everett Sterile bezel with vertical brushing, polished chamfers.
Andrew Yeah. It has... When you imagine a dress sport watch, do it with me, you're imagining this watch. It doesn't matter what logo you have on the dial, this watch fits that build. It's refined without being overly dressy, so you can wear it even on a bracelet or on leather in a t-shirt. You can also wear it to the office. And what I'm excited about is that this guy's getting into the game and trying to capitalize on this, maybe void in the affordables category of the market.
Everett Well, and I'll have to, I guess this is when we should say these are available. These will be available for pre-order soonish.
Andrew Yeah like in the next month or so I thought.
Everett 9015. Yep. Uh, that sounds right. And I'm saying yes, but now I need to check. Oh no. Salida.
Andrew Okay.
Everett Yeah. The Salida SW 200, which is a 28, which is a fantastic movement.
Andrew Yeah. Everything about this watch to me says buy me except, and I hope he's listening. The blue dial watch doesn't need blue leather, man. Give me black or Brown. Don't blue leather me with a blue dial watch. Cause I'll, And it just doesn't need it. So right now on the website, the blue dial watch comes in. It's in the options, but among the options is a blue leather strap, which to me just seems unnecessary.
Everett And if you get these, get it with the damn bracelet. The bracelet's this H-link polished. It's kind of a Zen style polished center link H-link bracelet. Some people don't love that. I think it's killer. I think it's really well executed here too.
Andrew It's also so right for the style of watch. It mashes together that casual and just dressy enough to be able to fit whatever you're wearing.
Everett And these are simple. I think I'd call these alpha style hands or maybe sword hands.
Andrew I'd go sword.
Everett Slender sword hand. You know, Lucas has been very sort of welcome and opening to To open to feedback. And he seems like he's just, he's trying to do it right. I know he said kind of. Outwardly that he kind of wants to compete with Christopher Ward. Uh, I think this is a great entry. I have got some feedback just from folks in the community that say, yeah, it's a little generic looking to me. And I think that there may be something going on with the branding that is striking people a little funny. It's got branding that looks a tiny bit Chinese mushroom brand to me. Um, that could be the serif font. I'm not sure what it is, but it does have, uh, it it's the branding on it, I think is obviously a decision. And I don't, I don't even have a direct criticism, but I think that that is the source of the feedback I've gotten that says it's a little bland looking.
Andrew I think part of it too, is that it's, it's, uh, not a separate generic or, bezel. It's all one piece, which I mean is a decision, but I typically, in my head, when I'm thinking about this, I'm thinking about just a slightly different bezel on there.
Everett Well, I will say, I think that this watch is special for a couple of reasons. I think that the case polishing and case finishing makes it special. It looks money. You know, that's what's going to be what sets this watch apart from the regular players. I love it. I think it's really cool. I wanted to kind of give it some individual attention on the show. It's obviously not available yet. They I think the watch clicker had a review model in and has maybe done a write up or is today releasing a write up that's coming. So this is starting the prototypes are starting to make the rounds. You'll start seeing some buzz about this and get some actual watch people opinions on this thing pretty soon. I was really excited. I think it's really neat. I think it's a fun release. And at $5.50 on the pre-order, I think this thing is going to be a smoking deal.
Andrew I would do pretty bad things to get one of the prototypes. Right.
Everett You know, uh, to someone I care about. Stay tuned. Uh, no promises, but I I've gotten a promise. So we'll see what happens. Can we, can we move on to our next watch?
Andrew Next up is a brand that I have been really in love with and have had, um, I have to turn their website off when I've been drinking because otherwise I'll make a bad choice. Like the same reason I don't have is Amazon one click available on my phone is the same reason that I don't keep a tab open to this company's website because I've almost bought their dive watch on several occasions. Fortunately, they're all sold out right now in the colorways that I like. So that, that danger is gone. I can now revisit their website whenever I like and it's Traska. Yeah. I was real excited about their dive watch because they came out in the scratch-proof DLC dive watch.
Everett And that's the Tresca free diver.
Andrew Yes, and for someone like me, a scratch-proof watch, I was going to put that to the test.
Everett Making breakfast.
Andrew Yeah, and I still may, but they're dropping the Summiteer. I think it's Summiteer. Yeah, no, you're right, Summiteer. Sue my tear. Uh, when does it say when it's coming out?
Everett It's got, uh, you know, I think that they are looking to ship these very soon, like perhaps as much as, as soon as the end of the month. Uh, these are, these are coming. Um, it doesn't say, but I think that these are set to ship very soon.
Andrew Okay. So what we've got here is again, exactly what you're thinking. exactly what you're thinking when you're imagining a dress sport watch. You've got polishing, you've got the brushing, you've got really simple, refined dial with just enough to separate it from a dress watch. You've got this really great, uh, and you know what?
Everett It's got three, six, nine, numerals on the dial, and they don't look like they were carved off of a Rolex Explorer.
Andrew Right. They don't. How cool is that? And not a sunburst dial either, but a cool concentric, just slightly offset circle within that dial.
Everett Yeah, sort of a double disc.
Andrew Yeah. Totally dig it. Again, sword hands on it. I really, really like the arrow second hand on there. It doesn't stand out. It's not a different color. It didn't do anything to be flashy. It's just a really well-executed, simple, and yet very refined dress sport watch.
Everett I want it. No date only. It's a 90-39 movement, so no ghost date complication.
Andrew Which is whatever, right? I mean, I don't really care about that. 36.
Everett excuse me, 38 by 46 by 10. So thin by 10 thin, uh, 20 to 20 tapering to 16 on the bracelet, a standard three link or oyster style bracelet. Um, a hundred meters of water resistance screw down crown, which is, I think a hundred with screw down crown is every bit as good as the money shot. Yeah. You're going to have that security there in your, in your crown area. Um, all sorts of polishing. Signed rotors. Exhibition case back.
Andrew Signed crown. And their logo's great, too.
Everett Oh, yeah. Yep. BGW9 on the dial. This is everything we wanted. Yeah. Perlage finishing on the buckle.
Andrew If we had designed a watch, we would have designed this watch.
Everett This buckle with the perlages.
Andrew Come on. It's details like that that can make you 100% confident in the quality of this watch. Because why else would they go to the effort of those details if they hadn't gotten every single other detail right?
Everett And it's got the glowy bits. I love the glowy bits. That chamfer on the bezel, the chamfer on the lugs are glowy bits, and that's my thing.
Andrew That bezel shape is what really sets it apart for me.
Everett Big and flat and brushed. I don't know why it sounded so dirty. Uh, these are 500 bucks. So, uh, they're right there. Yeah. Just sort of bingo, bangle, bungle.
Andrew And for a watch like this, I think it's totally reasonable to be expecting to pay on the higher end of affordable.
Everett So Traska, good brand, cool watches, and they're doing it. They're doing it. So this is one of the ones that we're going to talk about last week, but just didn't get to it. And they're doing it for us. Now, this is the watch that I think this is the one I'm the most excited about and it doesn't come on a bracelet. Well, it doesn't count. Well, you know, This watch is a little bit different than the others.
Andrew What kind of animation is happening on this webpage?
Everett You know... All of it. It's a reasonable question. I don't like that actually. This is a watch called Serica, the William M. Brown edition. This is very much a field inspired watch. So I think you could be forgiven for arguing that this is not... a dress sport watch, that rather this is a field watch.
Andrew Which is what I'm going to argue.
Everett With polished elements. And so, yeah, argue away. I think that it fits the bill. Short of not coming on a bracelet, this is exactly what I want.
Andrew It's the dial, man.
Everett Well, it's a field watch dial, yeah.
Andrew Right, but that's what, if this had a non-field watch dial, I think I'd be on board with it. You need to shut up. Maybe I will have to. Maybe we'll fight. I haven't decided yet. This does fit all the other criteria, though. And if you're looking for a watch that maybe you can't dress quite as up... Quite as up? I just don't think you can quite dress this up as much as, say, any of the other watches we've talked about.
Everett Even your hack that you've got on, this is... A million times dressier than the At least one million times.
Andrew In the polishing, yes, but in that dial, I don't think you have that same versatility that you get out of just a 12... A polished baton marker. Yeah, just a 12-12 dial.
Everett And this is a printed dial.
Andrew With an interior 24 ring. I mean... That's right. Everything about it says, yes, but for that dial.
Everett Yeah. And no logo either. It's an unsigned, it's a sterile dial, which I think is fine. And I know that it was a purposeful decision.
Andrew I like that.
Everett Some people aren't going to like that. Some people aren't going to like that. So Serica is a brand that was put together by Matthew Horanek and some friends. You know, Horanek of A Man and His Watch, or A Dog and His Watch, or whatever that book is called, fame. Uh, you know, where he sort of interviewed what watch people with, with a watch that had a fun story. Uh, but this does everything it's 37, 7, 46 and a half millimeter lug to lug 20s on the lug with 10.8. Millimeters with a mineral crystal. That's going to bug some people to screw down crown a hundred meters of water resistance at a 28 Oh one, or this is an interesting decision at a 28 Oh one dash two or Salita SW two 10 dash one. And you don't get a pick. They pick and they just send them out. I think it's a supply-based decision and they felt like those movements are similar enough that we'll stand by either one of them and it's going to be the one we have is the one you get. That's an interesting decision. That's ballsy. I like it.
Andrew I kind of do too. That's really punk rock of them.
Everett Alpha hands or broad arrow hands? And one of our listeners had commented that the broad arrow is broad. They actually didn't like it.
Andrew It covers a full hour of time.
Everett It is big. Yeah, it's big. It's pretty wide. So, you know, there's some stylistic things going on here that you may or may not like. And if you're like Andrew, you may even totally disagree that this is a dress sport watch. But I think it fits. I think it's good. I think it's fun. And I like it.
Andrew It's a dress field watch. I'll accept that. It's not a dress sport watch. Oh, shut up. It's just not, man. The dial just isn't right. Everything else is.
Everett All right. So in recognition that these are kind of expensive watches, um, we thought, well, what would, what do we do if we want to buy a watch that we can actually buy? What are we looking for? And so we picked a couple of watches that we think are really neat options that are affordable for you and me. Yeah. That are both Swiss. Yeah. Which was weird for us. that are both Swiss, and that we're able to say fun things about, like, COSC certified and Swiss, and maybe that's it. Chronometer. Chronometer. So first, first, this thing, I think this is kind of the one that we fought over a little bit, right? I think we've talked about this watch before, too. I think we have. I think we actually talked about the automatic version of this, but this is the Tissot PR. Tits Out, right? Tits Out. PR 100. Chronometer, COSC certified, quartz watch. God, that's a lot. Do I need to read all that? Yeah, you must.
Andrew We haven't read a long reference in a long time.
Everett T1014511105100. Fuck you very much, Tiso. Yeah, this is a neat watch. At least it was just numbers. It comes on a bracelet or on a strap, but get it on the bracelet. Don't be dumb. It's got sort of a, I think the most interesting element of this watch, looking at it, is the canted center double link. It's kind of got like a Breitling style slanted link thing going on. Some things you might not like. Is it a magnified window? Cyclops on the date window. Yeah. Kind of a funky secondhand. know, a Tissot with that big T counterbalance on the second hand. And other than that, this is a totally unobjectionable watch.
Andrew I mean, besides the 1853 that they simply must include on their watches. Yeah, yeah.
Everett We get it. But for 200 bucks, this is a COSC certified chronometer, quartz chronometer.
Andrew Are there any of the other chronometers at that price point, do you think?
Everett You know, I don't know that I don't, there's no automatic chronometers. I don't think at that price point, um, I say that confidently, but I don't know. I don't think so.
Andrew I don't know. There is either. I don't ever recall coming across one. Uh, and that's impressive in and of itself that you've got a Swiss certified courts, which, which, you know, you have to include that, but at 200 bucks and this watch looks great. This watch, I think in the way of just pure aesthetics stands up to any of the watches we've just talked about that range all the way up to a thousand dollars.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. No, you know, Jody from just one, just one more watch. Is it one more? I was trying to remember if it's one more or just one period, just one more watch yet. Jody from just one more watch has one of these and he's reviewed it and he's compared it favorably to the Seiko Sarb. Um, I think that he did his, you know, sliding index card. review of these, you know, head-to-head of these, and the Saab came out ahead for a number of reasons, mostly sort of brand oomph. But he sort of puts it up head-to-head, you know, in terms of case finishing and the way it wears, and he really enjoyed this. We've obviously not touched this, and maybe we should fix that.
Andrew Did you already give me a size? I think you said 38.
Everett Yeah, I think that's right. So it is 39 by 9 thick. 20 meters, 100 meters of water resistance, six o'clock date, which some people hate. I like six o'clock date windows. I don't mind it. Yeah. Yeah. This is just a super sexy watch. I really like the case profile on this thing. It's got a different sloping lug and case profile. And I think it's really different and aesthetically pleasing. And I think they kind of rock it. And I dig the bracelet. It's a little bit like Star Trek, the case profile is.
Andrew Kind of, yeah. Very, very modern, but also really classic all in the same swipe.
Everett Yeah. So 200 bucks for a Swiss cost certified sport dress watch that you can go anywhere and do anything in.
Andrew Yeah. And you're only into it 200 bucks.
Everett I will say. So kind of hard stop. Everything good. Hard stop. It's kind of boring. Yeah.
Andrew But that's the idea. I mean, I think you can make a watch like this exciting. I think what immediately comes to mind is the Saab. I get happy when I see the Saab.
Everett Yeah. So maybe we take a minute to talk about the watches that we're not going to talk about because there's a number of them that we're not going to talk about. Here we go. Yeah. You know, I think that the most obvious watch for an affordable collector in this price range for a true sort of go anywhere, do anything is the Seiko Alpinist. Yeah. You know, 400 to 500 bucks right now, brand new. They're probably discontinued or certainly discontinued something like that. Um, and, but 200 meters of water resistance, guilt markers, classy as fuck. People, people get weird about the green dial. It doesn't bother me at all. I think it's, I think it works just fine. It might not work with a tux. This is going to work better with a tux. Uh, you know, the PR 100 shouldn't be wearing this with a tux, right? I mean, well, I don't know shit, but I'm going to wear it. If I, if I ever, the next time I'm in a tux,
Andrew You're gonna wear your Speedmaster, and I get that because it's a Speedmaster. No, I'm wearing my G-Shock. Okay. No, that's just as appropriate. Okay. It's a one-of-a-kind watch. My white G-Shock.
Everett Next time I'm in a tux, wearing the white G-Shock.
Andrew I feel like I should get married again, just so I have occasion to put you in a tux.
Everett Obviously, the Saab 033 and 035 with 100 meters of water resistance. They're both, I think for you and me both, they're the number one picks.
Andrew There's no Well, I can't say that exactly. There's no normal day-to-day scenario that the SARB won't work for you.
Everett But we're not going to talk about it because we've talked about it a lot.
Andrew Yeah. And I think the Laurier Falcon falls in that same category.
Everett And I said, we can't talk about the Laurier Falcon because we talk about it every week.
Andrew I'm so excited about it. And by the way, they're sold out right now.
Everett Hey, if you are currently sitting at Laurier headquarters and you know where my man Andrew can order a Laurier Falcon, please reach out to me at 40 and 20 blog at gmail.com or at 40 and 20 on Instagram because I'm pretty sure that's an easy sale. He did go to buy one this week. I did. And didn't make it happen.
Andrew No. And you know what? They were available last week. I'm so... Am I allowed to say that?
Everett Are you going to get in trouble for me having said that on the show when your wife listens?
Andrew I don't think she listens this far. Okay.
Everett She skips through to other things. Yeah. Okay, so Laurier Falcon, we're not, so really, the Zarb line, Laurier Falcon, I think that those for us are kind of the bee's knees. We're trying to give you options. We're trying to talk about watches we don't talk about every week.
Andrew And next up, we've got a watch brand we've never talked about before, I don't think. I don't think so. I think this is a first time for Sertina.
Everett Sertina, which is not a new brand, it's a very old brand.
Andrew Yeah, and it's a well-known brand. And I think we have probably talked about Sertina watches before. Yes. Certainly not in the air, at least I don't think so. But we've got up one of their DS1 line. And if you want to pull the big picture away so I can see the reference, we've got a reference of, we're on Joma Shop right now. We've got an item number of C001.407.11.057.00. And we've got another example that I think is really similar to the Tissot we just talked about. I don't know if it's quite as refined. It's got a little bit more polishing, a little bit more plain. I don't like it as much. Sterile dial. I don't know if I like it as much either. It's got a six o'clock date window also, no cyclops on it. Really nice short lugs, which make it kind of seem blocky.
Everett It is an automatic. Yeah. So in its favor. So it's $100 more than the Tissot, but it's an automatic.
Andrew And for the record, on Jomashop right now, it's $299 money, which says 59% off.
Everett And is that a... It's an ETA.
Andrew I can't remember which one. 2824? It is a 2824-2.
Everett So just a standard workhorse ETA or ETA movement.
Andrew A movement we all know, we all love. I'm sure a good handful of you own, if not one, but more watches with this movement in it. 38 millimeters, 10 millimeters thick.
Everett I mean, you know, getting a 2824 to 10 millimeters thick, I don't think that's a super easy... Yeah, I don't know. The only... With a 100 meter water resistant case.
Andrew And I have to say, I went through a whole lineup of even the DS1 line, to pick one out of it. And this was my least favorite because of the top of the lug finishing, the lug shape is right. The case shape is right, but the finishing on the top of the lugs, just it is a little blocky. The angles are just not quite what I would want out of it, but for 300 money, it absolutely fits all the criteria we want to see. Uh, it's got crown guards, but they're super subtle. Almost not noticeable. It almost looks like the crown is cut into the case. Extension of the case a little bit, yeah. But it's not.
Everett They don't protrude.
Andrew They just kind of envelop. Envelop the crown, which I think would be nice. The font on it is kind of... It's another just a little bit boring, but absolutely fits the mold of a go anywhere, do anything watch.
Everett Yeah. No, I agree. Dressy, sporty, t-shirt, jeans. suit anything you want. I think it's a great watch.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett All right. Well, I mean, did we miss any, any sort of killer options at the, you know, in particular, we, we, I think have just sort of naturally gravitated to being more comfortable talking about 500, 600, $700 watches when really our bread and butter is the 200 to $400 watch. So I know we continue to try to incorporate those things, but I think that there's a tendency, at least for me, to kind of get bored with these watches that are, you know, stalwarts at the $200 range. And it takes a little bit more to get me excited. But I want to continue to discuss watches at that option. So if we missed anything in particular in that $200 to $300 range, or, you know, even is there a $100 watch? Certainly there's Seiko 5s that could fit the bill on this.
Andrew Oh, there absolutely are. I ran through a whole handful. And one that we won't talk about at all, I'll just mention the name, is the Bernhardt Binnacle Anchor 3.
Everett Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew Oh yeah. That's another big watch. 220, I think. 229. It totally fits the bill. In every category. I just don't like the Mercedes hand. Yeah.
Everett So if there are other major watches that we should have been talking about, please send them. We'll give them a shout. But these are the ones that we came up with to talk with you guys about and hopefully you liked it. So I'll talk to you next week. Bye. Other stuff. You've got some other stuff.
Andrew I've got another stuff that we've been talking, we've been teasing even for the last couple of weeks and finally it's here. I'm going to talk to you guys a little bit about black sales. And what I'm going to say is if you're not paying the $5.99 a month for Hulu access, do it. I just got the Fire Stick, which we talked about a few weeks ago. One thing I don't like about the Fire Stick is when I talk to it and I tell it to turn on Doc McStuffins. So I'm a four year old, so I have to turn on Doc McStuffins all the time. He likes it when I talk to the remote. So I'm in this position where I have to talk to the remote. It turns on the Spanish version of Doc McStuffins.
Everett What?
Andrew I have no answer for you. I have no... It turns on Spanish version of Doc McStuffins. So I have to turn on the Spanish version of Doc McStuffins, tell him, oh, I can't get the episode to work. And then he whines, I want the English version. Like, I get it, dude, but you wanted me to talk to the remote. I don't know what else I can do. So I have to go to the English version. Anyway, that's a whole other thing. Not another thing I like. It's just another thing that you don't have to hear about. Uh, black sales, y'all. I'm into season two and it is so well done. It's a stars original. It's available on Hulu. I don't know how much, hopefully the whole series is because otherwise I'm gonna have to buy stars. Uh, it's, it's not terribly predictable. And as somebody who takes pride in being able to predict spoilers,
Everett It's so fucking annoying.
Andrew It's terrible. I'm terrible to watch TV shows with. I'm terrible to watch movies with. I wish you had tipped over. That would have been amazing.
Everett I almost fell on my ass.
Andrew It's not terribly predictable. It's so well done. The acting is fantastic. It feels, it just, it sucks you in. You feel just totally enveloped in the piracy of it. You feel like you're living on the seas with these pirates. It's a period piece. Yeah. It's a period piece. Okay. Super well done. A little bit gory, a little bit nudie. So don't watch it with your kids. Maybe not with your wife. I don't know how your wife feels about it. Um, my wife would not dig it mostly because of the violence cause she doesn't really dig that stuff. Get down on black sails. I'm smashing through it and I hope it never ends.
Everett Well, I've got another TV show Because this is the other stuff is just turned into the TV shows. We just talk about TV and Hot Wings. At some point we were supposed to talk about EDC or whatever, but we just carry the same $30 knives and cheap flashlights.
Andrew I've been carrying my Benchmade more. Oh, have you?
Everett Yeah. All right.
Andrew Well, I have a Mel Presidio. It's old. It's probably from 2006 and it's got some wear. I'm pretty sure if I would send it back to Benchmade, it would make the Benchmade website of we love it when people use our knives and they might just send me a new one. Yeah, maybe. It's fucked up.
Everett I've used it. You know, I've got the, uh, we, we've both got that case, carbon steel, yellow handle, sod buster. And every time I kind of get interested in a knife and I'm like, Oh, I'm going to buy this watch, buy this knife. And I'm like, what? I don't need another knife. This sod buster is the shit. And I paid 26 bucks for it on Amazon. So, uh, twice, uh, cause I lost one, but that's the nice thing about that watch. You, you, or that, That watch? Yeah. That's the nice thing about that knife is you buy... Oh, okay. So my other thing is a show that came from a WatchSeek user. I'd never heard of it. An Instagram follower. Wow. One of our listeners. Listen, it's been a long time.
Andrew Donuts and beer, man.
Everett Instagram user at KPJimmy. You guys know him. You love him. If you don't look him up, he's got an awesome feed. He just seems like a super cool dude. Uh, but KP Jimmy sent me a comment about a show that he had just assumed I'd been watching because I probably should have been watching, uh, called Wu Assassin. Wu, as in Wu Tang, Wu Tang. W-O-O? Wu, Wu, Wu! No, not W-O-O, asshole. Oh. W-U. Oh. As in Wu Tang. Oh. Wu Assassin. This is a Kung Fu, monk enhanced young person, a legendary magical monk amulet enhanced person in the streets of San Francisco, kick an ass, sort of feels a little bit like Nick Cage or one of these Netflix Marvel. It's got a very similar feel, very good fight scenes, sort of modern era, cheeky humor, you know, so the production quality is Yeah. Okay. The fight scenes are killer because that's what they do, right? They do fight scenes. Um, so it feels very much, I mean, this could be Luke Cage, like the new character of Luke Cage. It could just be that show. Uh, but the characters are different, obviously, and it's not Marvel, or at least I don't think it's Marvel. Uh, but killer. I think I got through like three episodes and it's just been super fun, dynamic, fast pace, and I'm loving it. And we got it from, uh, we got it from a listener. So I thought I need to talk about this on the show. Glad you did.
Andrew I'll watch it after I finish Taboo.
Everett Woo, assassin, not W-O-O. Woo.
Andrew W-O-O-O-O-O-O exclamation point.
Everett Well, do you have anything else you want to talk about?
Andrew I do. One last thing. Okay. Thank you for your participation in our wannabe Wednesdays. Keep hitting us up. Keep tagging us in your awesome watch pictures because I'll tell you the hundreds of texts that Everett and I send back and forth every week trying to recreate these photos. are pretty entertaining. Maybe we'll post some screenshots of the nonsense. Thank you for your participation. Thank you for staying engaged with us. Talk to us, reach out for questions. We love your questions. We love talking to you guys. Thank you so much.
Everett And with that, thank you for listening to this episode of 40 in 20. If you want to follow us, you can check us on an Instagram at 40 and 20. If you want to become a supporter of the show and God bless you, if you do, we love you guys. You can check us out at patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Andrew Buh-bye.