Hamilton Releases the Laziest LE We Have Ever Seen (362)
Published on Tue, 07 Oct 2025 20:31:30 -0700
Synopsis
In this episode of the 1420 Watch Clicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new watch releases and share their opinions on various timepieces. They begin by talking about the Brew Metric Digital Blend, a quirky watch with a 30-second countdown timer specifically designed for timing espresso shots. They move on to discuss new releases from Tutima, Hamilton's Call of Duty collaboration (which they criticize for being uninspired), a Venezianego Concorde tribute chronograph, Aquastar's Benthos Professional, new Longines Spirit models, and several luxury releases from brands like Lange. Throughout the episode, they also chat about whiskey, with a focus on Laphroaig's L2 experimental cask strength release, and share personal anecdotes about sports, cooking, and family life.
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| Andrew | Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. |
| Everett | Everett, how are you? It's so good. Actually, I'm a little sad. Andrew. A little sad? Yeah, Mariners lost game one. The witch didn't do it for them anymore, huh? Of their playoff series last night. And it was like a really good game. And then we went into extras and we had to bring in Vargas, who's just the... I mean, when he comes in, I'm like, yeah, we're losing this game. And inevitably, he walked a couple guys, gave up a hit. They scored the run that wound up winning the game. It was just like every time. So anyway, I'm still feeling that way a little bit. I'm feeling that way right now. Grande Siento, my friend. |
| Andrew | Not low. It's not a low amount of Siento. It's a big amount of Siento. A big amount. |
| Everett | But yeah, I'm fine. I'm good. I'm happy. We've got fun watches to talk about. Andrew, how are you? |
| Andrew | I'm good. My five-year-old's just been having a really tough time transitioning to school, like to kindergarten. So he gets up at weird hours this morning. He woke us up at four o'clock in the morning, woke me up. Well, everyone up at four o'clock in the morning. And I was the one who remained up. So it's been a long day already for me. Yeah. |
| Everett | Yeah. |
| Andrew | You know, I did end up watching the Singapore Grand Prix, which I wasn't anticipating watching because I was like, that's too early. It starts at five o'clock. I'm not going to get up for that because last or two weeks ago in in Azerbaijan, it was four o'clock and I was like, no. I'll get up at, I'll get up at five 50 and watch a race. Like that's fine. Not earlier, not a second earlier. I got up earlier this morning. Um, and, uh, so I got to watch a, and it was kind of, I don't really super like street race circuits. It's, it's hard for just enough mobility to, for overtaking. So it's a little bit of a. That's the word I'm looking for. Uh, a parade through the circuit, but good racing, you know, had a decent start. I made some gumbo yesterday. Yeah. I mean, and I like, I, I really went for it. I gave it the full hour to build a room and, uh, What happens when you take more time to build a roux? You just get a darker, richer, more flavorful roux. I see. You go real slow toasting it. As like migrating between absolute minimum amount of heat to like just a click to the left. You toast the marshmallow. Yeah. And I probably could have gone a little longer, but I was starting to punch up against like... When we needed to eat. So I was like, you know what? 45 minutes of whisking seems sufficient. Okay. Look at this color. This is just... It's just like your roux gravy. It's just from the roux. That color is... I could have gone probably another 20 minutes. That's dark. To like really darken it up. |
| Everett | What is the feature of a gumbo that makes it green? That gives it that sort of golden... It's the roux. It is the roux, okay. |
| Andrew | Yeah, so it's, you know, my roux got to... It's not green, right? Like dark, greenish, chocolatey. Yeah, like golden. |
| Everett | Yeah, it's like the edge of a chocolate chip cookie. Grass at the end of summer. |
| Andrew | Yeah, so I did my holy trinity of vegetables. And then just simmered it until they were nothing and added some andouille sausage and some smoked turkey sausage. And I cut them in different ways because kids don't like andouille. Threw some shrimp in right at the end and some okra. Yeah, turned out phenomenal. Emeril would have been proud. You know what I like about the word andouille? It doesn't make sense. |
| Everett | Well, everyone knows how to say it, but no one knows why. No, what I was going to say is that I feel like andouille is one of those words that a solid 30% of the time you hear it, you hear it pronounced wrong. What? Ann Dewey. |
| Andrew | Oh, God. I've never heard anyone say that. I hear it all the time. Oh. |
| Everett | You know what? I used to work at a pizza restaurant in Chicago that had Ann Dewey pizzas. And so we hear Ann Dewey quite a bit. So maybe I've got... maybe i've got a uh a bias i like made me slobbery that's a that's a repulsive way to say it uh uh but we're not here to talk about gumbos although i do want to talk more about your gumbo but we can do that i'll send you home with some And we're not here to talk about Mariners baseball or Etsy witches. Rather, we're here to talk about watches. And this was an interesting week. I have not, Andrew, I almost always compare our watches. I have not looked at, I saw your links come in and I did not look at them and I have not looked at them yet. So I don't know. But I felt like as I was reading about the watches I took, I was like, Andrew's not going to have these. These aren't Andrew watches. You had two that I didn't. |
| Andrew | But everything else, yeah. There was a significant amount of overlap. Which is nice because you didn't read any of my shit. You read your shit and it just happens to be the same stuff. So I'm going to start. I want to start with a fun new Anadigi release from Brew. What's the name of that company? Maybe Brew? |
| Everett | Brew? I like that. |
| Andrew | so brute Mr. stupidest watch ever made that I like it is it's almost like that D20 watch that has like such a finite or like the disky watch it has like such a finite actual functionality or like the cricket the Bangalore's cricket watch yes you're like this doesn't make all of the sense Or any of it, for that matter. And I love it. So we have the Brewmetric digital blend. It's a Brewmetric case with an AniDigi display. And here's where it gets weird. It's a digital countdown timer that starts at 30 seconds. And then at the conclusion of your 30 seconds, you get a happy little coffee cup on the left side of your digital display. And I think... This is so ridiculous. |
| Everett | And it does 30 to coffee and nothing else. |
| Andrew | Yes, it does a 30-second countdown timer. So I don't know what you're timing for 30 seconds, but that's all you can countdown timer with this watch. You still have your analog display that covers, I don't know, the top two-thirds of the dial. Everything about it is so brew. And I think this shows the level of maturity and brand recognition and respect that Jonathan has earned in the industry. Because if this is his first watch, he gets laughed out the door. As his like 75th watch, maybe 100th, I don't know. We all love it. Because his body of work is so sufficient that he can do something ridiculous and fun and stay with the motif of the espresso thing that really was the beginning of Brew, right? His first countdown timer was a really creative... function on the watch. It wasn't the watch. This is just a 30 second countdown timer with a happy cup of coffee next to it. The LCD display is really creatively kind of disguised when it's not doing its countdown timer bit. It's got a really good texture on it. The LCD shows through that texture really well. Everything about this is brew. Everything about this is just silly. And because of the body of work leading up to this, I'm totally fine with it. |
| Everett | Yeah, I'm hesitant to call this watch beautiful, but it is beautiful in the way brew watches are beautiful, which is to say the finishing is really attractive. The hands and the details are attractive. But this watch is awkward phase 1984. It is which is perfect, which is what you're going for. The fonts are really good, which is a funny thing. I think brew does really well with fonts and these are fonts. uh that brew uses um i i i'm really enamored by this watch it is it's a metric so which is to say it's 37 and a half millimeters wide by 43 long hooded lugs 13 millimeters thick which i think i think If Jonathan could get the thickness of this watch down a little bit, I would like it. It's kind of standard for his watches. |
| Andrew | And I think a big chunk of it is the K shape. You can't have that like tonneau-y shape. |
| Everett | Sure you can. Thin. Reject. 50 meters of water resistance. It's so dumb and it's so cool. This is fun. i i do have one and i'm with you andrew though you you nailed it by the way the thing you said about his body of work sorry i just just i'm gonna compliment you uh it it's perfect right i hadn't thought about that yet but that that's right like because brew is this rad brand and people know who they are and like this is going to be the watch that in 40 years people will be like oh shit you got the shot timer you know maybe maybe 20 years maybe five years you know it's just uh it's a really really fun watch and he does good novelty watches you know his pac-man watch is fun the the |
| Andrew | Oh, shit. Was it the 8-bit watches that he did were fun? And he's earned the right through his really successful design, really successful releases, earned the right to do shit that's novel in a way that we see novel releases all the time. But we don't believe in them. No indication this is a limited edition, is there? No, I don't think so. They're under 500 bucks. I do have one gripe. He needs to get his hand model or his wrist model in for like a manicure ahead of... Look at this. Don't you figure this is him? |
| Everett | I don't know. He just, he needs to go. You know what? I think that is, I think that's Tom Tom Wang. |
| Andrew | Go get, if you're going to take pictures with your hand in the picture, go, go clean yourself up. Looking, looking like a blue collar fella, which there's nothing wrong with that. My hands look like shit too. Cause like I, I work with them as so clearly do you, but you're just like, go clean yourself up a little bit. |
| Everett | Tutima, Glashütte, one of the Glashütte brands, German company. Tutima is a really cool company with a really cool history that is... Every time we talk about it, I just can't stop myself from chuckling. Why? Tutima. Tutima. um they've just released they've just released a patria which is sort of their sporty dress watch one of their sporty dress watches i should say in um So three hand wound titanium models with, uh, Giosh dials and this beautiful two team, a six 17 hand wound movement. Uh, and these things are, so it's like polished grade five titanium. Uh, these watches are weird. They don't make sense. It's a 41 millimeter sport dress watch with small seconds and like, ridiculously gorgeous hands that comes in at just a hair over 11 millimeters thick. I don't know. I don't know who this watch is for, but it's... absolutely gorgeous. I said it. I said Giosh on the dial. It's sort of like a hobnail. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | It's sort of like a hobnail Giosh. They've got three of these. They've got a silver, a graphite, and a like a black dial, I guess. Yeah. Black is the word you're looking for. Yeah, well, it actually looks to me like more of a charcoal, but I think that's confusing. |
| Andrew | I think it's because of the light. I think it's the light bouncing off of those kind of pyramids in there. I think it's just the way the light plays. I think it's black. |
| Everett | And the 617, if you've never seen... We call it anthracite, which is another fancy name for black. Yeah, but the graphite, anyway. The 617 is like this three-quarter plate movement that's got all these exposed... bear uh ruby bearings with these gold chatons framing each of them it's a really really a really gorgeous movement and i think it's about the prettiest movement i've ever looked at it's up there right uh and and and this flatch is 8600 euros what what it's being offered at which is a lot of money please right this is a lot of money but when you consider what this watch is if you're like in the mood for something like this which is to say an oversized dressy sport watch from a super high caliber. |
| Andrew | But it's not that oversized. At 41, you're right in the zone of kind of where high horology tends to exist. |
| Everett | It's all dial. I'm guessing this thing wears big because of the crown guards and sort of the big crown. I'm guessing that this thing, it doesn't have a tremendous lug-to-lug, but it's not a short lug-to-lug. I'm guessing that this thing wears pretty big. You know, I haven't tried it on, obviously, but I bet this is a pie plate on your wrist. I would think so. |
| Andrew | Where's the profile? It's 11-2, so there's not a good profile picture in this article to see how those lugs really curve, because I bet this... I think I would be inclined to disagree based on the lug shape about wearing big. |
| Everett | You know, obviously, I don't have any actual knowledge. That is my guess, though. |
| Andrew | Yeah, those are pretty flat lugs with this kind of quartering angle. It looks like the lugs are pretty flat. It's gorgeous. Gorgeous, exactly. The charcoal is the one for me. Yeah, that's good. |
| Everett | Yeah, oddly enough, I think for me, the charcoal is the one for me too. I'm sort of like a black dial guy, but I think with this titanium case. The polish on the titanium is so good. Yeah, it is really good. And I think it's going to wear in to be a darker color. And I think it's going to, with that graphite dial, I think it's going to wind up being... really like kind of monochrome which i think is a fun monotone which i think is a fun look for this type of watch so big ass pilot crown yep yeah that it's a big like sort of onion like pumpkinny yeah they call it ergonomic what's next |
| Andrew | I want to talk about something dumb. You know exactly what I want to talk about. |
| Everett | Do it. |
| Andrew | Hamilton, khaki field, call of duty, special edition. |
| Everett | Andrew, I, it took me like, I like Syria. I was like, I kept going back and I was like, like at one point I was like, Oh, okay, go ahead. I don't mean to stay. |
| Andrew | No, no, no. Do you go? Cause I think we, we went similar routes here. I was like, |
| Everett | This is a fucking 38 millimeter khaki automatic with a Call of Duty case back. |
| Andrew | That's all it is. Their limited 5,000 piece limited edition is just the auto with a mechanical NATO and a Call of Duty case back. |
| Everett | Okay. Yeah, that's right. The NATO is, I believe, the exact same NATO that currently comes on the blacked out khaki mechanical. They're like, let's give it the NATO strap. By the way, Hamilton's NATO, Hamilton's branded NATOs, their OEM NATOs are really great. |
| Andrew | They are. |
| Everett | I love them. And so I purchased these at retail because I just think they're phenomenal, which is it's like 80 bucks. Your mileage may vary, but they're really good. But they just took the mechanical NATO, put it on an auto. And then change the case back. |
| Everett | And it's an ugly case back. It's not good. You know what happened here? |
| Andrew | Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead. It does come in a tactical case, meaning a Pelican case with a foam cutout. I have several Pelican cases in my garage that I have not cut the foam out of. So, you know, there's a thing there. There's some value there. Yeah. I have totally unusable Pelican cases with the foam block still in it, uncut out. Mm-hmm. They cut this out for you with a Call of Duty logo. Private lasers. Yeah. so dumb well okay so let's i get that hamilton is a company out there to make money i get that this is an interesting brand partnership and they're driving the problem is that neckbeard who lives in his video game chair isn't getting enough actual movement to to keep the watch wound i'm gonna i'm gonna point out a different problem |
| Everett | I think the problem here is that this is a 200 premium over the bracelet Kaki automatic at retail. So, so the MSRP is $200 more and you're getting less bang for your buck with that. So that for me, that's a problem because I actually, I think it, I think it's kind of fun what Hamilton's doing here, right? They're like, this is a Kaki auto, but it's a special version. right this is just the black dial khaki auto is but it's a special version my guess is that what happened here is that someone from what's the name of the company that makes call of duty Whatever. Activision or whatever. Activision, yep. Someone from Activision was like, let's do a watch. What watch should we do? A third Call of Duty watch. And that these guys linked up, but they linked up too late in the process to do something special. That's my guess. That the release date and the link up happened too late. So they were like, we can fucking bust out. We've got stock on hand. We can bust out. So... And in the grand scheme of things, I don't mind a sort of one-off. Because from the front, this doesn't look like a special watch, which I kind of like. I kind of like. But it really would have been nice to have, like, I don't know, just a different dial color. Any different dial color. Like, change... Anyway. |
| Andrew | Do, like, an FDE Cerakote with a tan dial. But all that costs money, and it takes... Anyway. You know what, though? I'd pay... 500 over msrp for an fde cerakoted or dlc with an fde dial for a like in this watch in all fde i'd pay well over msrp like an extra 500 bucks and that's that's gonna cover their their margin because this watch in in dlc or or a cerakoted fde be fucking sick it'd be like the the notice uh jungle yeah tropical which is cool right um or hamilton spend a little bit of extra money make your own color way in a tactical version and like land a partnership like this don't just don't phone it in this is phoned in yeah well yeah perhaps literally and and hamilton doesn't like they do so many special and limited edition and so many collab watches and they don't always phone it in and they phone this one in it's stupid |
| Everett | The only explanation is that they linked up way too late. That somebody needed more money or something. Something happened here where this connection happened way late in the process and they didn't have time to do something. Well, then what started it? Like the connection had to have started. Who fucking knows, right? This is how these things go, right? You know, every time we've ever linked up with someone, it's always been, you know, to come on the show or whatever, right? It's always been like... |
| Andrew | That's the genesis. There's always some stupid genesis. We're not like halfway through the process. Like, God, we need a partner in this. Yes, we are. That happens. |
| Everett | So we record right now. We record on Saturday. We haven't always, but just for the moment. |
| Andrew | We're not talking an 18-month build-up here, though. |
| Everett | Just for the moment, ignore that the day might be different. But for a Sunday recording, we record on Sunday. I said Saturday. For a Sunday recording, it might be like... Friday, someone sends a message and says, hey, you interested in having so-and-so on the show? And we're like, yeah, that would be fun. Oh, here's his number. And so then we send a text message and I'm like, what do you guys normally record? And it's like, well, we record on Sundays. What are you doing this Sunday? Well, that sounds fun. |
| Andrew | How many fucking times does that happen? So many times. And it's different because it doesn't take 18 months to prepare yourself to have beer in the morning. |
| Everett | But that's my point. What if this happened like two weeks ago? What if someone was like, you know what? We've been talking about doing this. We've got our new game coming out. do you guys want to trial this right now and hamilton's like yeah you know what we we've got a bunch of stock of this and i can make case backs in an afternoon in a month in a week whatever uh let's fucking roll it we'll take the khaki straps because that's cool and tactical with the mechanical straps because that's pretty cool and tactical we'll give you some high we'll give you we'll send you a watch so you can do renders uh for the game and we'll and we'll roll out on the case backs right now we can go to market when you guys release right that's how this happened is my guess that's probably how that happened and so which is fine but it's also a cash grab and ridiculous and they're making five thousand But that's how that happened, right? |
| Andrew | You gotta imagine. 5,000 of them? They send Activision a bill for an MOQ? |
| Everett | So you know how a lot of watch people, Andrew, will say JLC because they don't like to say JLC. It just makes them sound like assholes because we don't say it, right? |
| Andrew | Yeah, we don't say it, right. |
| Everett | I do not feel that way about... I might not say it right, but I still want to say it. Even if there were an option to abbreviate that, there's not. I would still say it because it's fun to say. |
| Andrew | It is. Italian words are fun to say. |
| Everett | And yeah, it makes me happy. So they have released... the second watch in their um or what do they what do they call their lamania the legacy of time series so these are watches at least at this point which have come with new old stock lamania 1873 movements They released the second one in that series. I think they did the last one earlier this year. We talked about it briefly. What it is, is the Busentoro chronograph, but with a La Magna, which is a Mecca course chronograph, but they've fitted this with a La Magna 1873 chronograph. The second version they're calling the 1976, which honors the Concorde, the Concorde aircraft, which the Concorde for me is an oddity in like technology, traveling, et cetera, because it did a thing better than anybody else has done the thing before. But we later got rid of the thing that it did. |
| Andrew | It's like space travel. We've forgotten how to go to the moon. We're having to redo Apollo missions that were done in the 60s. You could go from Heathrow to JFK in like... Three and a half hours. Three and a half hours. Which is nuts. Mach 2 at like 60-some thousand feet. And we're like, God, that's too good. Like, we're not getting enough time for people to buy in-flight movies, to buy extra meals. We don't even have time for drink service. Right. Let's slow this shit down. |
| Everett | And, you know, it must... Obviously, there's a lot of reasons that go into... I remember when they were... It was expensive. It was expensive, and it used a lot of fuel, and the planes were not particularly reliable. |
| Andrew | It was, I think... How many 777 crashes have we had in the last 10 years? The majority of commercial aircraft fleets are north of 30 years old. |
| Everett | Yeah, I think they were just expensive to repair. And also, they didn't have a lot of people. You couldn't stick a ton of people on them, right? It's not like a 747 or a 777 where you get a village on the plane, right? The Concords, I think you could put, I don't know, what, 100 people? Maybe. Anyway, it is... And that might be an exaggeration. I'm not even sure it's that many. But it is a... A really cool airplane. Gorgeous. If you like airplanes, it is gorgeous. And this watch honors the... Where's the nearest Concord? This watch honors the Concord. And it's really, really pretty. It's also a little silly. It's got a fuel gauge on the six o'clock hour register. And it's got like Mach 1... lift off Mach 1 and Mach 2 markings on the minute gauge, which is fine. |
| Andrew | It looks like a Breitling. |
| Everett | Oh, I think it looks very much like a Venezia Nego, but... |
| Andrew | It has like super Breitling feels to me, the guilt, like it, I don't know. I don't not like this watch. I just, I don't know. |
| Everett | Well, the good news for you, Andrew, they made a hundred of these and they've all been spoken for on a pre-order. So you don't have to buy it. Serialized plate on the left side of the case. Which is made from a piece of titanium from a Concord rotor. Or like a fan. I think it's like an engine fan. A titanium engine fan. These are really cool. Come on. You don't like it. |
| Andrew | No, I just... I can't put my finger on what I don't like about it. |
| Everett | You don't like it, though. I can tell. They're 13 millimeters thick, which is a great dimension for a vintage mechanical. |
| Andrew | Yeah, for a Lamontian mechanical. This nails the size. Maybe it's the gilt and blue, maybe. I don't know. |
| Everett | Doesn't that feel like airline pilot to you, though? |
| Andrew | It does, but it... I'm... I don't... This isn't for me. Even though I love the Concorde, I love the story of the Concorde. I now know that the nearest one that I can go see is in Seattle. And next time I'm up that way, I will go see it. Because this is... This is like... Look at the way... Hold on, hold on. As close to space travel as normal people could ever get. |
| Everett | I'm going to help you. Look at the way... okay so it's it's not exactly a sandwich dial but it's a dial with dimension and so the top great depth the ivory the ivory top deck of the dial sits above the sub registers but also it sits above the minute track and the hands hang over just a little bit the or the marker yes yes |
| Andrew | Come on. Oh, it's every design element. |
| Everett | Moving on. |
| Andrew | The colorway, it doesn't... I hate you so much. I don't blame you. I'm done with you. I'm done with the show. I'm done with you. I love the pushers on it. The way they kind of just melt into the case is fantastic. We can't salvage it at this point. |
| Everett | I just don't like it. You can't salvage this. We're moving on. |
| Andrew | Fine. |
| Everett | Fine. |
| Andrew | Oh, man, I'm sad. Are you not hitting end? I thought we were done. Keep going. What's the next one? Okay, next up for me. Oh, we haven't talked about Aquastar in a while. It's true. And we're going to talk about him briefly today with the new Benthos Professional. We talked about the Benthos, I think, on its... Why are you making that face? No, I'm trying to think of one we talked about the Bentos. I think we talked about the Bentos Pro when it came out. You make funny faces. You make funny faces. A lot. |
| Everett | So why do you bring that one up? You're always making me self-conscious. This one was just dramatic. We're seriously ruining the show. This one was just dramatic. I was being thoughtful about the thing you were saying. I was active listening. Active listening is encouraging. |
| Andrew | That made me think that I couldn't read. Okay. So the new Bentos Professional, it's a 42 millimeter case, 13.9 thick, 904L steel with a black DLC coating on it, 300 meters of water resistance. Here's kind of the bummer. It's a isoframe rubber strap, no bracelet option, at a 28-24 movement. $1,590 after the pre-order. Pre-orders for $1,290. And this is just the Bentos Professional, which is a really, really well-specced, attractive, 70s-feeling dive watch. Yeah. with a black DLC case. And it's slim. They've slimmed it down. What was the... 16 to 13.9. Yeah, so the first one was big old bitch. They shaved 2.1 millimeters off of it. And when we're talking the difference between 16 and 13.9, that's significant, right? Yeah, it's huge. That's way bigger than the difference between 8 and 10. Yeah, what is it, like 15%? |
| Everett | Yeah. Something like that. It's a big reduction. Yeah, it's a... |
| Andrew | Big bitch dive watch. And this is like if you're in the zone for as I recently was for a big bitch dive watch. This is in the conversation in the sub $1,500 range. There's not a lot there. And I think this deserves some consideration. Pre-orders are going to run until the end of this month. |
| Everett | And the pre-order is significant savings. So $1,290 on the pre-order $1,590 is the retail price. Yeah. which is, yeah, it's a big discount. |
| Andrew | 47 on the lug to lug. It's just a big old bitch. |
| Everett | Love this. Yeah. You know, this is a watch. This is a watch that I don't love all the fonts, which I think pulls me away from it. |
| Andrew | I think you don't love all the fonts because they're all like kind of true to form 1970s revitalized fonts. They're not 1970s fonts, but they're just kind of like trying to pull 1970 into the, you know, 50 years ahead. |
| Everett | I'll tell you, I know exactly what it is. I just figured it out, but I don't think about it. All of the six o'clock fonts are stretched too tall. They're all too tall. They all need to be shorter. All of the fonts at six o'clock. Because I don't mind the Acoustar Swiss font, but the Bentos professional fonts are elongated and way a little tall. I don't like. But I also don't like the bezel on the Bentos. It's got this real sort of... like elongated sine wave or not sine wave like uh what's the what's the square wave form anyway i don't like that i don't like this style like waves coming squares anyway yeah uh it yeah not a huge fan of the pulse bezel and the um one to six o'clock i like it i i'd really like to see it on a bracelet but i get |
| Andrew | coming in DLC, that would push the price up. But the Isofreen is good. |
| Everett | Cool watch. Historic Company, if you like it, you like it. They've done a great job getting all of that extra weight off, I think. So kudos to Aquastar for making a watch that was previously stupidly thick into an almost acceptable size. |
| Andrew | It's there. It's your big bitch dive watch. |
| Everett | I'm with you. It sounds like a criticism, but it's not. Let's go back to Longines for a second. You need to cuff them. You just cuff them. They're not objectively too long. You just cuff them. You don't have to get them tailored or whatever. But also, the company called Longines... |
| Andrew | Yeah, I'm sorry. It was bad enough that I just wasn't going to... You were like, what are we talking about? |
| Everett | No, I just wasn't going to accept that that was what was happening. They've made two new entries to the spirit line. Longine is cool right now, right? Longine's having a moment. They're... expressing themselves. Is that what I think it is? Yes. Yes. I'm wearing a watch that we can't tell you about. That feels so fun to say. Sorry, suckers. But maybe also text me if you have my phone number and I'll tell you what it is. Yeah. You know what, Andrew? I like it. I'm good with it. There's one set of decisions that I wish they would have done differently. But outside of that, I really like it. In fact, having worn this now for... Anyway, we'll stop talking about it. We're just being mean at this point. Two new spirits. One of them is a three-hand pilot's watch. And it's beautiful. It's beautiful. These do not have five stars on them, which I thought, yeah, we're going to get spirit watches without five stars. |
| Andrew | Um, I think I'm okay with that. With the way the font all just kind of works together. Sure. I think I'm okay with it. I, I, I'm always kind of on the fence of the five stars, uh, it is part of the spirit line. I'm good with it in this application. And I, I kind of hope they continue that moving forward. |
| Everett | Interesting. Interesting. Okay. These are both black dial guilt, metal guilt, guilt, dial metal and guilt printing and white loom. These are both white loom watches, which It bears repeating. These are sort of classically styled spirit watches and Longines style with black dials and gilt that use white lume. Like Longines figured a thing out that people are struggling with. And I'm going to congratulate. |
| Andrew | That nobody else can. |
| Everett | I'm going to congratulate Longines for having done this. So the pilot, the three hand. Spirit Pilot is gorgeous. We've got 12 Arabic numerals that are framed in gilt. And I love them a lot. We've got a really nice looking bracelet and clasp. We've got a crown that is maybe my favorite thing about this watch. It's got this perfect Longines written. circularly around the crown that you can view from the side and nowhere else. It's 39 millimeters, which is great. It is a little thick. I think these come in at like 12, five, which are 13, five. Oh no, that's the flyback. No, these are, what is the, what is the thickness on the three hand? I read it just a moment ago. The three-hand is 11.5. Okay, so that's fine. These are chronometer certified. The movements are chronometer certified. And 3,100 on a bracelet for the three-hander. We also have a flyback chronograph with an L792.4 Longines hand-wound chronograph movement, which is stunning. It is a 39.5 millimeter chronograph that's only 13.5 thick. 120 click ceramic bezel. And it's also beautiful. We have here... We have here six complete Arabic numerals. We have four partially complete Arabic numerals and no three or six. Because of the bi-compacts register, they've gotten rid of, I said three or six, three and nine. So two, four, eight, and 10 are cut off by sub-dials. It's, I think, a classic and acceptable way to frame a bicompax dial, especially in this style. I think they've executed it really well. I'm okay with it. You may not like that. But it's beautiful. |
| Andrew | That's what makes... The application makes sense. Like, the execution makes sense for a bicompax flyback chronograph, especially with this kind of World War II-y... |
| Everett | pilot design it i accept so five stars gone again we instead have chronometer officially certified on both of these um which take for what it is fifty five hundred dollars on the mechanical chronograph versus 3100 on the three-hander uh same crown on both of these uh Quick adjust, tool is quick micro adjustment on the clasps. These are excellent looking watches. These are excellent looking watches. If you are at all turned off by the Tudor range of watches right now, like I am, I think that this is where you look. If you want something of Tudor quality, and I believe approaching Tudor bona fides, cachet, this is where you look. I mean, frankly, I think right now, for me, Longines is a much more desirable brand than Tudor. Tudor has pounded itself into submission, I think. Maybe at least for the moment, at least for the moment, I've got fatigue from Tudor. Not so with Longines. I am just loving everything they're doing. |
| Andrew | The bevel on these lugs is phenomenal. Phenomenal. It's so good. I would like to see complimentary brush directionality on the end link with the case, but I sort of accept that it's hard to make that happen. |
| Everett | Say it again. |
| Andrew | What's the... The brushing on the end links is vertical. And the brushing on the case is circular. |
| Everett | And that's... I'm okay with it. I see what you're saying. That's a quibble. |
| Andrew | It's a thing. Yeah. And at this price point, I feel like that thing is easily correctable. |
| Everett | I will say here, though, that the end link is... It's terrific. It's the first good end link that you're going to get at any price. For the $3,100 three-hander here, you cannot get a good end link for less money than that, I don't think. I think you're incorrect. so i can't talk to you he just pointed to the watch i'm wearing on my wrist that i can't talk about but let's say for instance we were talking about the company companies that fit into their formax monta etc reward they they don't do m links well not not this well perhaps that's right yeah that's right this is a good end link you don't get to good and there are watches that are much more expensive with this that don't have good end links but I want them I want an end link with machined with machine dimension I do not want stamped faux dimension I want machined and machine dimension and I want it machined to the same standards that the links are machined to that's what I mean when I say good end links and that's what this has does that make sense |
| Andrew | Yeah, I accept. |
| Everett | Okay. What's next, bud? |
| Andrew | We'll stick with Longines. The Ultracron. Ultracron? Yeah, Ultracron. How fucking cool are these? These are good. So this is a revitalization of a 1967 release of watch. They stayed really, really true to the design. uh if you look at the side by sides of the source material and the current iteration like we're in a good place well don't bury the lead tell these guys what we're talking about here we are talking about a watch released in two sizes 37 millimeter case or a 44.6 millimeter case 1095 thick in both 47 lug to lug in both lunging at a movement, 52 hours of power reserve under, eh, they're about 4,000 bucks. They're 3,800 Swiss francs. So this is a recreated... 1960s release that's fucking fantastic yeah so this was longines so the ultra chron was longines first they they called it uh ultra high frequency automatic watch so a five hertz movement um it's not currently a five hertz movement it is a this movement comes in at Four Hertz, I believe. Four Hertz. Oh no, it's still a five Hertz movement. Is it? Yeah. There you go. Great. Go anywhere, do anything, sport dress, feel, flat link. It's not a flat link. These are curved, kind of Jubilee bracelets in both these sizes. |
| Everett | Yeah, it's a Jubilee. I wouldn't call this a Jubilee. But the middle is a split. Yeah. The middle link on the Jubilee is a split link. It's not actually split, but it's got a bit of dimension that's been milled into it. |
| Andrew | These are absolutely lovely. So Longine dropping some dropping some fire this week. |
| Everett | Yeah. Yeah. So so they so this is about as faithful a recreation as you're going to find ever in a watch. The originals were 35. So that's why they've so the 37 is the version of this that they released to be the most faithful to that 35. I think fair enough to Longines, right? This watch is not going to sell all that many copies at 35. The 37 and 40 are great. We do have 19 millimeter lugs on the 37 and 21 on the 40. I think that there was a dimension that they wanted to preserve. in my mind i think these should both be 20 millimeter and and split the difference but they've made a decision that's fine um kind of on genie of them Yeah, and you can get 19 and 21 millimeter straps. And these do come with both bracelets or straps, depending on what you want. I think the coolest thing about these is these are... I've never heard of this, and I had to go figure out what it was. But these are whole watch chronometer certified, Andrew. which I've just never heard of that before. Tell me more. But rather than chronometer certifying the movement, these assembled watches are chronometer certified. So I think it's a really cool standard. They test these. It's the 3159 ISO standard. They test the entire watch in a 15-day testing period, during which time the entire watch, the whole thing, goes through these practical tests at different temperatures, like low temperatures, medium and high temperatures, like very high temperatures. And in various positions. That's right. Positional, et cetera, et cetera. So it's actually, it's the type of test that I was like, |
| Everett | why don't we see this all the fucking time? Why don't we see like that Jack Mason that I reviewed? |
| Everett | Wouldn't that be a perfect chronometer certification for that watch? No, it's going to be expensive, right? So it's going to raise the price. But wouldn't that be a perfect type of testing for a watch like that? Like that's a watch that's like, we can do anything. |
| Andrew | But you know what? Ball out, send it in for testing and be like, hey, we sent one in to get this 3159 certification and it got it. You don't have to print that chronometer certification on the dial. You don't have to pay for the suite of it. Pay for just the one and be like, hey, just as an aside, we did do that. |
| Everett | I actually don't realize. I don't understand. Well, anyway, I'm going to move on from that. I would like to know a little bit more about chronometer certification. I've seen some online comments about this. People aren't digging it, from what I can tell. No, because people are dumb. I think it is really, really neat. They're expensive. |
| Andrew | Yeah, they're $4,000-ish on a bracelet for a silver dial three-hand. |
| Everett | ultra high frequency movements are known for being reliable time time keepers but not necessarily known for being reliable runners and so that's that's maybe something to be aware of too you don't you know much like uh |
| Andrew | And a movement like this is going to be expensive to service. |
| Everett | That's right. So much like Zenith or whatever, you're probably looking at a potentially high risk, high reward situation here with this movement. |
| Andrew | It's like getting a Volvo. Just exactly like that. You can crash that bitch, but God damn it if you look at the steering wheel wrong. |
| Everett | Lange. Longo released two really cool Onyx-styled... Saxonias. Saxonias? I want to say that the last Saxonias we got were in 2006, maybe 2011. So this is not, like, Langa is not a company that is releasing, you know, biannual, annual iterative releases, generally speaking. |
| Andrew | No, they don't have to. 2011 was their last release. So what's that? 15 years? 14 years? |
| Everett | These are Saxonia thin that each have... Saxonia. |
| Andrew | What am I saying? |
| Everett | You're saying Saxonia. Like super, super blatant. I think you're being stupid. So what that means is you've got a very thin... What is it? 6'9", thick... uh dress watch six two six two um with in in this instance nine two five sterling dials that are onyx coated uh we've got two versions we've got a platinum case and uh what are they calling this honey gold honey gold yeah honey gold each with corresponding hands and markers, very thin, delicate baton markers, and beautiful, very thin, delicate hands, much like you might imagine. The only printing on these is at 12 o'clock with the A. Langa and Sona Glashuta. |
| Andrew | The lug-to-lug looks long. |
| Everett | You know what? They get to do whatever they want with this watch. |
| Andrew | They do. There's just no curve. This is just a flat. |
| Everett | Yeah. So it's a three-piece. So if you don't know what this is, it's a three-piece case. So the lugs around it are actually an extension of the middle case. So what that means is you've got a top bezel that's polished, a brushed mid-case and lug unit, and then a bottom, which from the side is polished. And those come together, they sandwich together to house the watch. And you've seen this style of watch, but oftentimes this style of watch is thick, right? You're going to expect this to be 11, you know, 12. |
| Andrew | This is a two point... |
| Everett | nine millimeter thick movement inside yes yeah you don't often see a three piece i mean you do but but it's it's a bit of a i think a bit of a rarity to see a three piece case that gets in and delicate like these these are both limited to 400 pieces excuse me 200 pieces so 400 pieces total uh and the pricing is unknown but estimated to be around 45 000. these are sort of ask for pricing type of watches um we've got plates and bridges made of german silver we've got a hand engraved balance cock these are all of the things that you're going to want in a longa it also if you pull up if you zoom in on that balance yeah you don't want to you don't want to zoom in on that balance you're going to have to take another mortgage these things are of course i and every once in a while i get i get tent city uh on a watch like this and this is the one that did it the last one i think that did this for me was that uh the d20 No, the Genta, that monologue Genta that came out this year. |
| Andrew | Yeah, that was a thing. |
| Everett | I think that was like a half a million dollar watch though. So this is affordable. Relatively accessible. |
| Andrew | You could make this happen. You could just walk to work. Yeah, gorgeous watches. What's next? Do you think the bank offers auto loans for watches? Certainly they do. Like a 60-month... I think we're... I don't know. I don't really super care about anything else on the list. |
| Everett | Okay, well, let me do my thing that I do. |
| Andrew | Actually, I do want to briefly talk about the new Mido Multifork TV Big Date. It's a TV Big Date, but this one's in titanium. And I, like, Mido's a brand that I really struggle with because I don't know why. I just, I want to not like them. And I don't have an answer for why I don't want that. Every time I see these Multifork TVs, I'm like, man, I really do like that. Yeah. It's a 39 millimeter case. It's 11 and a half thick. It's 46 lug to lug. Great square case. 1290 Swiss francs. Brushed and polished grade five titanium on these fucking things. Yeah. Everything about this watch says I should, this, this, everything about this says this is a watch for me. |
| Everett | It's Paramac 80, which is the only downside to this. It's like a very pedestrian movement. |
| Andrew | But it's, it's, you know, 1400 bucks. Good crown guards, 12 o'clock date window. I just can't. Every time I see one, I'm like, okay, maybe I'm getting on board with Mido. |
| Everett | Nomos expanded their Neomatic World Timer. The Neomatic World Timer, if you don't know what this is, is the coolest watch that's come out, certainly from Nomos in forever. This is like a legit best in class. These things are freaking incredible. They came out with the World Timer in three new colorways, and they're all really good. They're all black. blue dialed tron dial thing so one of them is very much a tron dial the other one's got like sort of an olive accent and and then you've got an amber accent so you've got tron with the black the teal on teal and blue on black and then i and they all have names and i don't uh grid i think is the blue trace i believe is the amber and vector i believe is the olive yes uh they're terrific the blue one has teal loom the olive one has a somewhat yellowed aged loom and the amber has amber loom uh they're great these are they really are great but it's just a neomatic world timer with new new colors it's three new colorways in the size of the bracelet for the picture man oh yeah don't just dangle it on your wrist just size the bracelet If you don't know what these are, these are 40 and 20 watches that come in at under 10 with a world timer and sub seconds. And just they're from Nomos and they're great. They're great. Nomos, you're great. Nomos, you're great. 5,200 bucks. Nomos, you're great. |
| Andrew | Yeah. And these are limited. 175 each. So you strike while it's hot. |
| Everett | And I think with that, Andrew, other things, what do you got? |
| Andrew | Oh, so... I was browsing some live cam. Oh, I bet you were. Stuff the other day. Reality, my dad sent me this link and was like, hey, you might want to check this out. That's a weird thing. It's a cool new live cam site that I was previously unfamiliar with. It's called explore.org. |
| Everett | And it has... |
| Andrew | dozens and dozens of nature live cams set up all over the world, like ranging from like this is at a humane society. And this one is in an underwater reef complex. So there's just all these nature and animal live cams constantly running. I was watching some bears earlier today at Katmai Falls or Katmai National Park at Brooks Falls in Katmai National Park, Alaska. Just watching bears hang out in the river catching fish. And if you wanted to go down a little bit, you go to a kitten rescue sanctuary and just look in the cat room. I love... I showed it to my 10 year old who was like, wait, we can just watch like. Nature, wherever I like, yeah, dude, there's hundreds of live feeds all over the world piped into this website. There's a manatee camera in the Silver Springs underwater like nature area, an Audubon Osprey nest, a. roost camera or I farm I don't even know where that is there's this this is like it appears to just be someone's backyard but it says outdoor puppy pen at warrior canine connection peregrine falcon nests like just super cool fun nature cameras that are just always running and then they have like normal videos of like hey these are highlights but the the live cameras |
| Everett | It got me. It got me. Yeah, the warrior canine connection is actually, that's a good one. They're just cutie puppies. They're just puppies. |
| Andrew | Just puppies all like hanging out in like a little puppy pile. Right now there's two, four, six visible puppies just snoozing. |
| Everett | They're just snoozing. |
| Andrew | They're snoozing, cold chilling. Yeah. I love stuff like this. Like, you know, the moose migration cameras and the eagle camera that got set up. I love this kind of shit. |
| Everett | This is less weird than I thought it was going to be, Andrew. |
| Andrew | Was it because of my live cam intro? Yeah. I have some of that to talk to you about later. |
| Everett | Less weird than I thought it was going to be. You know what, Andrew? Inevitably, I did bring another thing, but we haven't drank it yet. |
| Andrew | We haven't? |
| Everett | We didn't drink it yet, and I'm still working on this other thing. What are your thoughts round two for the L2? Yeah, so, okay. Yeah, that's actually a good other thing. Can I do that for my other thing? I accept. L2 can be your other thing. Okay. So what this is, is a Laphroaig experimental cask strength whiskey. And this is not mine. It's Andrew's, but I, he had given me a sip of this once and I was like, what, why is this so good? And, uh, so today I having like sort of dove back into Isla heated whiskeys recently asked today if I could have another sip of this. And Andrew kindly said, yes. Um, It is a... So, first, if you don't know, we talked about this a little bit last week. Islay whiskeys are whiskeys made in the Islay region of Scotland, which are the island, the Islay island, which are known, generally speaking, for being... Peated, heavily peated. So most famous example, probably Lagavulin 16. And then last week I talked about the Ardbeg Ugedal, which also an Isla Scotch. This here is from Laphroaig, who's sort of the third player in that mix. Laphroaig 10 is their most famous, most accessible. |
| Andrew | When you buy Laphroaig bottles, they also come with a QR code to register to get a 12-inch by 12-inch lease. on the distillery. And if you ever go visit the distillery, you can bring your certificate for your lease and go visit. |
| Everett | And you, and you have, you have a lease, right? I have several. Yeah. |
| Andrew | So I'm trying to do a hostile takeover of the Laphroaig distillery. |
| Everett | It's going to take you a while. The, so anyway, the. Laphroaig I think is interesting so Lagavulin makes this just really beautiful whiskey but I think for a lot of people it's sort of their introduction and it's a really great introduction however it's a good bridge yeah however Lagavulin also does, I think, kind of a shitty job. They're sort of like the Seiko of the whiskey world, which is to say it's only going to be 43%. And I think they do like their 12s. They do a little bit of cast strength, but you can't really find it. LaFerrari, on the other hand, is like, oh, we're going to do the enthusiast things. We're going to give you badass cast strength. We're going to give you no color added. We're going to give you, you know, no chill filtering. Laphroaig is right. And for the same reason, Ardbeg is like, Ardbeg is like Nomos or I don't know, something else, right? Where they're just like, yeah, we're going hard in the paint. They're way out there. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So, but in terms of flavor, both Lagavulin... And Ardbeg, I'd say, have a bit of like a barbecue, a fatty, savory meat. |
| Andrew | Very oily. Yeah. |
| Everett | You get this fat meat note, this like red meat note in Lagavulin that you don't get in Ardbeg, certainly, that you don't get in Laphroaig. Laphroaig, you've got more of the botanical medicinal peat. |
| Andrew | And, you know, I think the most famous Laphroaig that everyone's familiar with is their quarter cask, which is like drinking a smoked Band-Aid. |
| Everett | Very much so. Very much so. So if you ever hear Band-Aid note, that's what people, or iodine note, sometimes people will say. But for me, Band-Aid, like, hits the nose on the head. Hits the nail on the head. Hits the nose in the face. Literally had like a quarter of an ounce of whiskey at this point, but I feel drunk. |
| Andrew | Well, that's 59%. |
| Everett | The L2, the L2 Laphroaig. So they've got an experimental series. They had their L1 a couple of years back. The Elements 1 was, I want to say like three years ago. And then last year they released the L2 Element series. And these are findable. It's not like you can find them. They're not unobtainium, but they're a little tricky to find. Yeah. |
| Andrew | Because they're limited releases that they just put out into the world. |
| Everett | But they make a lot, right? It's not limited release like we've made a thousand bottles of this. They make many thousands of bottles of this. Andrew, your question was, what's my thought? |
| Andrew | Round two thoughts, yeah. Your first thought was like, wow, I thought this was going to suck because you offered it to me. And I was like... Fuck you. |
| Everett | That was a little rude, and I did say almost exactly that. |
| Andrew | Yeah. I was like, and fuck you. It is really good because it's interesting. It's different. It hits hard. The flavor profile is really fantastic. It's cask strength. It's a 59%. |
| Everett | Hold on. Before you go any further. |
| Andrew | I do want to know your... |
| Everett | Before you go any further, I'm not going to define myself too much because it was kind of a shitty thing to say. But really, my point was more like I'm like the one who's pushing the needle on whiskeys more often. And that's all I was saying. Like, this was like a really cool, bleeding edge whiskey that I hadn't heard of. And I think that's what I was like, whoa, Andrew, come in with the heat. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | Because you're... Andrew doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. It's not that you don't know what you're talking about. You do know what you're talking about, but you're just not bleeding edge quite as much as I am with this stuff. |
| Andrew | No, I'm certainly not seeking out the bleeding edge of things. |
| Everett | And that was my point. More than anything, that was my point. Not that you don't know what you're talking about. |
| Everett | But anyway, second round thoughts. Really beautiful whiskey. |
| Everett | Andrew, I think I slightly prefer the meatier, fattier, oilier peated whiskeys, that Lagavulin or Ardbeg flavor. However, for an iodine medicinal band-aid scotch, this is beautiful. It gives you sort of a citrus grass. thing in the smoke and it's really lovely it's not that it's not that's quite the same like oh my gosh i need more of this but it's i could drink this this is like a i mean probably a top 10 scotch for me honestly super easy drinking and it's not like a typical because what person what is what's the proof on this 119. Yeah, shit. And it doesn't drink like, well, some drinks are 119, but it's not like obnoxious. If you don't like high-proof scotches, you're going to want to add some water to this. This is a splash, though, just to open it up. Yep. I wonder how this would be with water. |
| Andrew | I've never tried opening it up with water. |
| Everett | I almost never put water in scotches. I know a lot of people do with scotches. Less so with bourbons, but a lot of people will put water in high-proof scotches. I put water in the Jack Daniels single-barrel barrel for both of them. but just the kind of water like you get your hand wet and then you just hold your fingers over to let like four drops fall in i will just open a little bit i will literally do like a drop i'll take like a some sort of like a like a flask and do like drop drop maybe two or three like actual drops and it does it like it takes it down just a like probably now it's 125 instead of 136 yeah But I don't know. I mean, this seems like it might do well with that treatment. |
| Andrew | Maybe. I've never tried it. |
| Everett | That's my thoughts. Okay. Anything else you want to do before we let these folks go? |
| Andrew | No, I think we should let them go. |
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