Episode 34 - Watches You Can't Wear to Work
Published on Thu, 20 Jun 2019 00:06:00 -0700
Synopsis
The podcast covers a wide range of topics including watches, food, drinks, and life. The hosts discuss the watches they consider to be "weekend watches" or watches that cannot be worn to work, sharing their personal picks and thoughts on various models. They also talk about their experiences with cooking, movies, YouTube channels, and other leisure activities.
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| Andrew | Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is the 40 in 20 podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? |
| Everett | I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. It's the weekend. It's Father's Day, even. Happy Father's Day to all of our father listeners, which I think is probably about... Most of us. 85%, if not more, of the folks who listen, fathers now or soon to be fathers. Yeah, I'm doing really well. I've been cooking kind of all day sort of. I didn't notice your house was hot It's warm. We don't have central AC. So when it's warm outside the house gets kind of warm, but it's comfortable It's not a few days ago. It was a little stifling in here, but today's nice Yeah, I'm making some country ribs also known as Pork shoulder. |
| Andrew | Wait, are they happening right now? |
| Everett | Yeah, they're already made. No, they're happening now. I mean they're they're on the sort of slow cycle of oh that's why it smells so good yeah i said something smells good in here like oh yeah it was ribs it's like oh you had ribs good for you no they're not so you were making ribs yeah well and and to be clear they're shoulders they're country ribs right so not not actual ribs which is a distinction there it's a important to make mm-hmm i like them as well they're uh they're uh You know, you slow cook them so they get nice and fatty. I don't have a smoker like you, like some people I know. We did have a question about what kind of smoker you got last week. |
| Andrew | I got from my in-laws a Masterbuilt Pro Electric. And I have had for several years a... Oh, shoot. I can't remember the brand of it, and the brand is honestly irrelevant. It is one of the three-part grills that has a propane side, a charcoal side, and a firebox. And I have used that primarily as a smoker. But then I got the Masterbuilt Pro and gave it a try and it worked well. So I'm going to continue using that because being able to walk away from it was terrific. |
| Everett | And it's a dedicated smoker? |
| Andrew | Yep, just a walker. |
| Everett | A walker? |
| Andrew | Locker. |
| Everett | Oh, a locker. I thought it was a walker. like |
| Andrew | And you're getting for the most part the same experience. You're just losing out some of that smoke flavor. |
| Everett | You're losing for sure. You are for sure. So I usually do a dry rub, sear, sticking in the crock pot for four to seven hours, and then finish it under the broiler. It sounds like it works. No, it's delicious. And it smells like it works. Yeah. And it makes good meats. |
| Andrew | How are you? Good, I mean obviously Father's Day, so we went out for lunch today, which was lovely. Had way too much to eat. I'm kind of, I'm still painfully full and we left lunch three hours ago or so. Yeah. I did, I got one of those burgers that you pick it up once. Because you can't, you're not setting that thing down. No, no, you can't set it down. It would not survive the, it wouldn't survive its travels. Sure. The first thing I did is I pulled the wooden steak out of the center of the burger and it had a fried egg on it. And I went to mush it down and immediately volcanic eruption of egg yolk into the palm of my hand. So there is a small burn there. Hot, very hot. Oh yeah, real hot. No, fresh off. It definitely burned me. And then I continued mushing and then it was a time bomb. I had to eat way faster than I would have preferred to because it was bad. Well, no, it was terrific, but it was in poor shape. It was falling apart. Sure. Which is what happens when you get some sauces and then egg yolk and juices from the meat. |
| Everett | So, what's the name of that burger? That's the Wilbur burger. The Wilbur burger, right. So, we've got a chain of places around here, McMinimums. They have concert venues and hotels. Some of the coolest drinking venues I've ever been to. Yeah, yeah. It's sort of a venue based. brand at this point. Historically, they were sort of a burger beer place. Their beers have probably not kept up with the times in terms of... They're starting to catch up. |
| Andrew | They still have medium beer, medium food, terrific venues. So if you ever come across one, it's worth a visit. |
| Everett | Yeah, if you're in the Northwest and you go to a concert, you know, an outdoor concert in Portland, there's a good chance that it's at Edgefield, which is a McMiniman's venue and they have just cool facilities. I think what they do is buy Historic or not not historic legally historical sites, but old buildings and renovate them for use as hotel and venue and and bar and so they're all these cool sort of enigmatic properties with Multiple use ability and they have a couple golf courses and my favorite is the Edgefield school |
| Andrew | Yeah, Edgefield. Yeah, no, is it Kennedy School? Kennedy School on 33rd, yeah. Is an old elementary school that has been converted into half a dozen bars and inside all this obviously same owner, but half a dozen different room themed bars, some meeting rooms, and a B&B. Yeah. But at this... And a movie theater. Yeah. Did you say that already? Sorry. And at this school, the principal's office has been preserved. Turned into a cigar lounge and still bears the title the principal's office Kim and I actually did our started our honeymoon at Kennedy School. |
| Everett | Yeah. Yeah. Yeah before we went to Mexico We stayed I think two nights at the Kennedy School. So Neat neat neat campus in Portland. |
| Andrew | We had a baby shower there. |
| Everett | I Like it. Yeah, I like it. They've got an old They've got an old auditorium that's been converted to a movie theater that always shows movies, you know, usually second run movies in there. It's like three bucks for the open to the public and you sit down in a, in a actual like love seat or a lounge chair that was picked up at a thrift store, you know, somewhere and they serve you beer and food and that's pretty cool. I like it. I like it. And their Wilbur burger and their communication breakdown burger, both excellent. Yeah, they do pretty good burgers. Also, they have a beer called Ruby. And I think that people don't really like Ruby. I know that there's someone in this very room that's not a huge fan. However, it's one of my very favorite things. On a summer day at a concert, it's got this grapefruit bite to it. It's like a grapefruit Pilsner. Do you think that's accurate? |
| Andrew | I think it's probably a Berliner Weiss, if I had to guess. But it's really light. It's refreshing. It'd be really good with tequila in it. The issue that I take with it is that It's not hard to make that beer better, and they just don't make it better. |
| Everett | Yeah, that's what I meant. Their beers have sort of stagnated. You know, I think 30 years ago, they were cutting edge in terms of micro-brew. They were one of the Northwest's first micro-brews, and over time, they've not developed their beers, but they've really poured all their energy into their facilities. |
| Andrew | And great facilities, so we'll call it a win. |
| Everett | Win-win. Yeah. Anything else? We did go fishing yesterday. We did, and we didn't get skunked. We did not get skunked. No, we caught fishes. |
| Andrew | We lost an anchor and about 30 feet of rope. |
| Everett | Oh, what a shit show. |
| Andrew | And the strangest part about it was that they're like, we've gotten the anchor stuck before. Yeah, that happens. That's part of boating on a river. This was, I mean, obviously so stuck we had to cut the rope, but in water that did not seem like it would have gotten the anchor stuck. The only thing I can figure is that there was a tree. Literally, that's what caught our anchor. |
| Everett | Yeah, we got stuck somewhere tough and we had to cut the anchor. |
| Andrew | But fortunately, our friend Tommy, he was with us and his family lives less than a quarter mile down the river. So we parked it and ran up to his house and got a ride to Buy Mart and bought a new anchor. |
| Everett | What a convenient place to get stuck. It was the only place that would have worked out. Yeah, we were with Tommy yesterday, who some of you guys might remember. The Watch Noob, as it were. Tommy came out and floated with us, and yeah, we caught mostly rainbow trouts. The McKenzie River is one of the tributaries of the Willamette River, which is a big tributary of the Columbia River. Willamette and Columbia, both of which run straight through Portland. If you've ever been to Portland, you've crossed one, if not both of those, almost certainly. The Columbia actually runs in between Portland and or you know Oregon and Washington for for many many miles I'd say about a third of the state it's the northern boundary of Oregon southern boundary of Washington. |
| Andrew | It's a long way yeah it's more than a third. |
| Everett | Yeah it's I mean damn near out to uh damn near out to the Dalles maybe just past the Dalles actually come to think of it yeah so yeah once you get once you get to eastern Oregon then it it jets up into it jets up into Washington but yeah big river. Mackenzie is a sizable river. It's known for its steelhead runs, summer and winter steelhead, but also fantastic, not quite trophy, but some of them, trophy rainbow trout, these native red side rainbow trout. They're not native, but continue. Native meaning not ocean going. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Native rainbow versus migratory rainbow trouts, which are steelhead. Right. And some of them are native, right? So they plant. It's one of these ODFW rivers that does get planted, but they have very old, you know, these 10 year old non-adipose clipped rainbow trout that if you catch one, you have to release it. But they're, you know, they can get very big. They get sort of football shaped and they're just wild river trout and they're gorgeous, gorgeous. Do they give you a good fight? Yeah. Oh yeah, they do. They do. They're called Red Sides. They're fantastic. Look them up. If you ever want a fun day of fishing, come on out. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | We'll take you, we'll take you, get a Stumpy Burger. |
| Andrew | If you hadn't been on Keto, that would have been what we did. |
| Everett | Yeah. Well, instead we went to Toxic and we got, we got some Toxic Reaper, some Toxic Black Mamba and Toxic Lava. The Black Mamba, man, is hotter than I remember. It was hot. That was hot. Yeah. The Reaper didn't hurt me at all. The Black Mamba though was, |
| Andrew | It was hot. Made me sweaty. And it is, it's making a second appearance in stage three. Right. |
| Everett | A little stingering today. It happens. I think for both of us. We both sat down pretty gingerly when we sat down on the mic, so. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the other nice thing about that place is they have keto buns. And anybody who's done keto or any sort of sort of low carb knows that there are options. There are options for eating bread like things when you're on keto most of it's not very good but most of it's bad yeah right most of it is bad you know that it tends to be sort of egg almond flour uh and and oftentimes parmesan cheese or some sort of dryish cheese um and it works better in some situations than others but that toxic on a burger it works that toxic uh burger bun is fantastic they do a good job with that so yeah So we're talking about watches today. |
| Andrew | Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and we're talking about I think we're kind of continuing our fun, you know light-hearted with watches that you can't wear to work and We took inadvertently two approaches to this. I took the one took the approach of You just can't wear that to work. It doesn't matter who you are what you do. You just can't wear that to work Right ever took the route of I can't wear this to work |
| Everett | Yeah, mine was more of a what I think of as a weekend watch. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So weekend watches. Watches you can't wear to work and I thought in my head, well, that's a weekend watch. And I think that we have sort of divergent ideas, but they're not conflicting. No, not at all. Yeah. And we thought about this too when we started talking about, well, how'd you approach this? The thing I brought up was we have, between the two of us, drastically different requirements for a work watch, right? What's a weekend watch for me is almost certainly in a list of your professional watch, right? For me, a DW-5600 would be firmly in weekend watch camp. And I've seen dozens of those at work. Right. That would be a staple professional on the job watch for you. Yeah. So that's interesting. And just to be clear, Andrew is In law enforcement. In law enforcement, that's right. And I'm an attorney, so we do different things, right? |
| Andrew | Interestingly enough, my weekend watches, watches that are less appropriate for me to wear professionally closer fit your weekday watches. |
| Everett | Yeah. In fact, when we were pulling up some of yours, I thought, well, I'd wear that to work. |
| Andrew | Yeah. Well, there's one that we'll come to, and I think the answer is no, you won't wear it to work. |
| Everett | Well, do you, I mean, should we get to it? Do you want to kick us off? Let's jump right in. |
| Andrew | All right, let's do it. First up, we've got the Casio DBC6116-1D, and it wouldn't be a 40 in 20 show without a Casio. So first up, the Casio Gold Calculator. |
| Everett | Yeah, the Databank Calculator. This is a watch that many people lusted after, fewer people actually owned in elementary school, right? |
| Andrew | Yeah, and I continue to. I don't know why I don't own this watch. They're 53, 54 bucks on Amazon. But I think this falls in the category if you can't really wear it to work in a serious environment Unless you're a hipster and work at a hipster factory Where they make more hipsters. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't see I don't see a professional world where this works Yeah, I mean I love this watch even if you're an engineer or something. I don't know It's just not maybe the black would work in an engineering setting, but I feel like this only works and maybe potentially like a graphic design firm or someplace that's primarily populated by mid-20 to mid-30 hipster folk. |
| Everett | Sure, or like an online magazine or something where everybody's just cool as fuck. |
| Andrew | Way too... I'm not cool enough to wear this watch to work. I know that. |
| Everett | That's right. Yeah, me either. That's right. Yeah, no, and of course, cue the comments and or DMs of folks, you know, swearing that they wear this to work. And if that's the case, obviously, Any of these watches we're talking about today, if that's the case, good on you. You're just cooler than us. You're cooler than us. That's right. And I agree with you. This is a watch that has very limited professional applicability. |
| Andrew | Maybe he's a banker. I think if my loan officer had that watch on, it might lend him some credibility. Sure. Sure. Because you know, he's ready. But maybe not. I would potentially be a little bit concerned that my loan officer required a calculator for basic arithmetic. So frequently that it was on his wrist. |
| Everett | You know, I worked with a guy, he was the owner of a pretty big mortgage company in Portland for a number of years, and he did not have a calculator watch. He had like a Tag Heuer, one of the big giant chronograph, dive bezel chronographs. And apologies, I don't know enough about Tag Heuer to be able to tell you what reference it was. Take your pick. Yeah, that's right. It was just a big 45, 46 millimeter Tag Heuer racing chronograph with a diaphysal. And, but he, he always carried around in his pocket, in his shirt pocket, um, he always carried around a, um, like a, a, a calculator and a calculator with an amortization function. Cause he was always doing math in his head. He's this very smart dude. He was, he had some issues, right? Uh, I, he had some issues. He was not always the most sort of, scrupulous, which is why I was regularly in his employ, or at least part of the reason I was regularly in his employ. But he was just always thinking, he was always scheming, and he'd come to me sometimes. |
| Andrew | I'm a hustler, baby. |
| Everett | What's that? I'm a hustler, baby. That's right. Exactly like that. He'd come to me with these ideas and I'd say, hey client, Bob, this isn't going to work. this just isn't going to work and he would he'd pull out this calculator and and just start punching in numbers and writing things down and uh you know an amortization calculator you know or a sort of an interest calculator there's a phrase for these and i can't remember what it is is a is a useful tool but they're a little hard to use you have to kind of learn how to use it like anything else but he'd like a slide rule hey yeah you know what it's actually a very similar thing you know you see all the buttons and then all the stuff and you're like, I'm never going to figure that out. But once you do figure it out, it's this useful tool. But he'd come up with these numbers and be like, look, it is going to work. And more times than not, he was right. More times than not, he was right. And when he was not, it was epic. Always epic failure because, you know, spend big, earn big kind of deal. But yeah, he carried around this thing and he'd just pull it out wherever he was and start crunching numbers and writing shit down. I feel like it's kind of the same. Yeah, no, no, I think you're right. It was this sort of antiquated device. Not that the device itself is antiquated, but this sort of antiquated functionality, you know. You got that app on your phone, bro. Right. That's right. That's right. So. What you got next? |
| Andrew | I do like that you picked the gold tone. It has to be the gold. Black, I feel like you could make work in a lot of environments. Gold, you just can't. |
| Everett | Okay. Okay. I think that it's the font on there, blue. It's hard to tell in a picture. Well, I like this watch. I think it's maybe got some blue font on it I think it's just gaudy and terrible and amazing and good all at the same time. Yeah get in me my first watch I I feel a little bit like This is my it's certainly not a throwaway watch but for me I feel like it's it might irritate some people because I'm sure I'm sure that we have listeners who have or do wear this to work Uh, I picked the Orient Mako XL because for me, this is an absolute weekend watch. You know, I think one of the reasons that we really like 40 millimeter watches, we're 40 and 20, which, which if you don't know now, you know, it refers to 40 millimeter watch. Oh, I thought it was our ages. You're, you're such a jerk. uh with 20 millimeter lugs you know a 20 millimeter strap is is not so small that it's 18 uh because it's so dumb you know it's been a long weekend you know it's it's not so small that it's dainty is what i meant to say like an 18 an 18 can be a little dainty if it's not on a on a dress watch so so 20 is this sort of really round figure i think 40 is the same these are sort of not ideal, but, but really just for us, I think, or, you know, the golden sort of ratio of, of case size to lug size. However, always right. There's going to be some mix. However, when you get a 45 millimeter watch, which this is, the Wernicke XL, it's going to be too big for me to wear to work most of the time. You know, unless I'm super casual on, in a, you know, in jeans and a polo on a Friday, in which case you get away with this. But for me, that just doesn't work most days. This is absolutely a weekend watch. This is a perfect fishing watch, too. |
| Andrew | Yeah. Or perfect any outdoor activity, for the most part, watch. It's going to look good. This is a good barbecue watch. But I think you hit it on the head. $45 for an average-sized fella with, I don't know if we have dainty wrists, but we certainly don't have big wrists. $45 is just entirely too large for us. Yeah, right. |
| Everett | And we're both running about 7 and 1 1⁄4 on the wrist size. This thing, I'm sort of amazed that this thing is, is not more popular with that said at 120 bucks. Yeah. I, I think that this is an easy, easy buy for me, for me. And in fact, I might buy one of these cause I'm really attracted by, you know, it's a, it's a legit dive watch. It's 200 meters, 120 clicks, Japanese in-house movement, full meal deal. Now this watch is a few years old and it's not been updated. Um, but running 13 millimeters thick. I don't think it needs updated. No, I don't think it does either. Um, six, almost seven ounces. So it's not going to be the lightest watch, but. |
| Andrew | But you're not going to be able to use it as a weapon. |
| Everett | Maybe you could, maybe you could. I think the bracelets on these are not terrible, obviously hollow end links at that, at that price, but who cares? You know, it comes on a bracelet. It's got a great bezel. It's attractive. I sort of think of this as the Orient cousin to the Sumo. |
| Andrew | Yeah, I think that's probably, you're probably right on that. |
| Everett | No, I will say, I don't think this is anywhere near as refined as the Sumo. Certainly not as beautiful, but it costs- It's a cousin. |
| Andrew | Sometimes cousins aren't as good looking as you. |
| Everett | That's right. And at 120 bucks, it's like an eighth as much. That new Sumo that came out, I think is like bordering on a thousand bucks, right? you know 120 bucks brand new all day beautiful dial beautiful handset super classic orient bezel but for me a total weekend watch i'd love to have this i would never wear this to work though no watch you can't wear to work for me weekend watch 120 bucks how have we not talked about this damn watch it's just too big for us that's why i haven't talked about it yeah it's it's |
| Andrew | about three millimeters bigger than I want out of a dive watch. They're like my top end for a dive watch. |
| Everett | So that was my first, I don't feel like it's the throwaway, but it's not the most interesting pick. Your second watch, however, is interesting. |
| Andrew | I'm jacked about this watch. This watch is by Mr. Jones and it is called The King. Ringing in at $275, $280, depending on where you can find it. And it's running on a Seagull ST-ST1701. 37 millimeter case, 46 lug to lug, 18 millimeter lug width. Like the dimensions on this watch are perfect. |
| Everett | Yeah. |
| Andrew | Let's get into the watch though. So what we've got here is a crystal that on the inside has a reverse image of the King of Hearts in the breastplate. of the king of hearts is your hour and it's a it's an hour jump or time jump function the cards over the uh call it 10 o'clock spot on his over his right shoulder reveal to you the minutes it is so fucking cool yeah it is so the cards change the cards roll they they they spin on a on a disc just like you'd expect on a wheel, if you will. And, uh, you can see in that, in the breastplate, the heart right there in the center is an hour jump to reflect the hour. It is beautiful. It is, but it is absolutely not a watching word work. This is a pure weekend watch. This is a go play poker. This is a, you get home from work looking forward to dumping whatever piece of shit you had to wear to work that day. So you can put this on. It is so unique. the the finishing on it it's a super high polish that really really complements the like really classic uh really really great line work on that uh on that drawn a painted i don't remember exactly how they said they applied it but the reverse image of the king there on on the inside of your crystal and then everything else is happening beneath it you know i'd wear this to work almost certainly you think if i had this i'd wear it to work yeah i love it |
| Everett | I love it. In fact, I want to get one and wear it to work. The price is, it's not a terrible price. |
| Andrew | No, it's affordable and you're getting, you're getting a known movement from a dude who makes, Mr. I don't know if it's a dude, but Mr. Jones has a crazy cap. |
| Everett | Are you okay? Yeah. Did you die? |
| Andrew | It was a weird burp, but it was also substantive. It's not a problem. |
| Everett | But you didn't. |
| Andrew | No, nothing came out. Okay. |
| Everett | Nothing came out. |
| Andrew | Mr. Jones has a really deep catalog of really crazy and unique watches and the cool thing is this this King also just came out in an XL and if I recall correctly it's a 40 or 45 millimeter case so basically pretty small or pretty big yeah are your two options and then there's a limited edition I think 100 pieces were made of a Queen of Hearts Oh to compliment the King girl yeah But how cool is this watch? |
| Everett | Super cool. Yeah, I think a lot of what they're doing is really interesting. I think that if these watches were crafted more meticulously, they would be charging... $12,000, $13,000. |
| Andrew | Or $50,000 to $100,000, and people would be gushing. |
| Everett | They'd only have to make about seven or eight of them a year, and people would just... um as it is they're making affordable watch pieces and they get overlooked i think a lot of times really modern designs cool movements uh yeah and the king xl is i think actually a crown left oh yeah it's a it's a little bit of a destro some destro action well cool man i dig it 45 so that's that's a sizable that's a that's a chunk of chunk but if you're going to be rocking a king of hearts on your wrist i feel like that's a reasonable |
| Andrew | thing sure sure that's a statement piece that's a discussion watch i would not wear the 45 to work i'd wear the 37 yeah i would but not to work that's right i don't i i don't know maybe it would work maybe if you were if you were a table game dealer i work at a casino and this is my everyday watch yeah no that would make sense i can get behind that so i'm gonna are we done yeah yeah we move on my third watch my second watch because it's not it's not my third watch but it's our third watch |
| Everett | You're right. I'm sorry, you guys. You have to, you have to keep listening to us because if you don't, we won't get the listens. Yeah. I mean, you could stop anytime, realistically, anytime. My second watch is the Seiko. Now, this is a watch that's not available anymore. Just, I'm just going to start with it. Send your hate mail elsewhere. Nope. Right to Everett. This is the Seiko 021. Seiko Sun SUN 021 there's also 023 and I think that there's like a 069 a paddy version of this, but this is a GMT kinetic a kinetic quartz GMT dive watch And it's sort of got a shrouded Case not not a tuna case But a shrouded case sort of reminiscent of a tuna a little bit curvier a little bit more angular than a tuna case It's not that quite that slabby, upright, so a little bit more angled, more of a, you know, couture type case design, I would say, and that's not factual, that's just me expressing my opinion of the aesthetics. So, I love these things, and I'm sad I never picked one up. I'm going to have to keep my eyes open. In fact, there's one on eBay right now for $3.29. |
| Andrew | You're not going to like it. You have to wear kinetic watches way too often to justify owning them. |
| Everett | Oh, I know. I wish this was solar. And in fact, with the initials, S-U-N, I have in the past had it in my head that this is a solar watch. If this was solar, I would own one. |
| Andrew | So would I. But the problem is with kinetic watches, you have to wear them so often that you can't really have more than one other watch. |
| Everett | Yeah, my SKA whatever. My, my, the Seiko kinetic I've had for, I had for a number of years was such an energy pig, you know, cause I might go two, three weeks. I just never had it full, never, ever, ever had that thing full. And, and I was worried that I was going to damage it when, when I sold it because it had gotten pretty low. Um, this thing way cooler, way cooler than the watch I did have. I agree. Um, but you're right. I wouldn't like it. However, totally fits the mold. This is a weekend watch. |
| Andrew | Oh, yeah. |
| Everett | This is a watch you don't want to work. Because I think that these things are like 75 millimeters. And pounds. 48 millimeters. 48 millimeters. So she's a chunk. She's a chunk. And you can't find them. You got to go to eBay. I'm finding these things between 300 and 400 on the used market. So also not cheap. There's a number of versions. There's a stainless version. There are a couple of stainless versions. There are resin cased versions. where the shroud is resin. They're really classic Seiko styling. Um, they're fantastic, dude. I wish it wasn't a kinetic movement. I love the kinetic movement, but as a collector, as a watch, as a person who wears a different watch every day, it's impossible. No, you can't do it. You can't justify it. If I was a watch, if I was the owner of three watches, maybe, yeah. Yeah. This was, you know, Friday afternoon. I put this thing on, I wore it all freaking weekend. Yes, maybe. But as a guy who goes sometimes a month without wearing a certain watch, it's not practical. However, on a beach, hiking, Mexico, this is it. Everywhere but the office. Everywhere but the office because it doesn't work at the office because it's a chunk. If you guys haven't seen this watch and you like the idea of a kinetic watch, check this fucking thing out. I think it's so cool. |
| Andrew | I agree. I think, I mean, that whole SUN line is cool. |
| Everett | I'm going to give honorable mention to a couple watches that almost took the spot for me. Um, and, and didn't quite because I really love that, that SUNO21 so much. However, uh, some of you might know that the Seiko Arnie, the Seiko Arnie, the sort of famous Seiko watch that Arnold Schwarzenegger wore for much of his late eighties, early nineties career. This is also a shrouded tuna style case. It's an anodigy quartz. This is solar. uh, has been re-released or was announced for re-release at Basel. These things are estimated at a, at 500 bucks. So in that affordable realm, I think you're going to have to want one though. You're going to have to really want one. You're going to have to want one. They come in both a stainless and a gold plated iteration. I think I'd go for this, the gold plated, it's, it's a black resin shroud or it might be PVD shroud with a gold plated bezel. These things are fucking cool. I was really sort of torn in between this and the SUN. This watch as a solar, I could run, I could rock this watch on a weekend. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | But, but same deal. This is the same exact deal. I think that these are 48 ish and a 50 millimeter lug to lug. They're huge. |
| Andrew | And they're going to, they're, they're, they have a two and a half, three millimeter crown on them. |
| Everett | Yeah. And they did grow these a little bit, so these are bigger than the OGs. So yeah, you win some, you lose some. The other one, and some of you guys might already be expecting this, but the other one is the Seiko Fieldmaster Digitunas, the SBEP001 and 003. And there might be another model in there. Oh, it's right here, the 005 as well, which is the gold-plated version. These are digital tunas. That's all. That's the best way to say it. Uh, I think these are super cool, but they, they fit that same. They fit that same. They'd be perfect for the weekend. That's right. These ones also solar and these ones are not super expensive, uh, under 300 new for these guys. Um, but, but equally huge. I'm pretty sure these ones are almost exactly 50 49.9. Yeah. It's too big. It's not too big for what this is. It's not too big for a tuna, a shrouded tuna. No. Too big for the office, so. Yeah. I, you know, I buy almost exclusively watches that I can wear every day. |
| Andrew | I might get one of those. |
| Everett | You might get one of those? Yeah. Because they're fucking cool. So those, so really this choice is the SU-1021, the kinetic GMT, because I love a GMT function, but honorable mention to the Arnie and the DigiTuna. |
| Andrew | Next up, Flood, F-L-U-D, BBX001 boombox. |
| Everett | This is a fucking weekend watch. This is a watch you can't wear to the office. This is a watch you can't wear to work at McDonald's. |
| Andrew | I mean, depending on the McDonald's you work at. No, you can't wear this. This is one of like a pure novelty watch. It is. Pure novelty, that's right. A ghetto blaster sized for your wrist with great details on it. Unfortunately, though, they're not available anymore new. You gotta go to the second-hand market for them, and where I could find residual prices for them, they were pretty inexpensive, which would lead me to believe that if you can find these, they're gonna be either non-functioning or stupid expensive. |
| Everett | But they were 90 when they were released, so I assume that there is nothing, nothing on this watch that cost hardly any money to make. But 90 bucks. Look at that 80s LED, which matches the style. How cool? It's a novelty. It's cool. I'd wear it, man. I wouldn't wear it to the office. No, but I'd definitely wear it on a boat. Don't you ever forget. I dig it, man. Interesting. I'm not sure there's a whole lot to say about it. |
| Andrew | How big is it? It is 52. millimeters, which you expect. It's a ghetto blaster. |
| Everett | Yeah, it's wide. It's wide. It looks like a, it looks like a boom box. So cool, man. I like it. It's got a little day function. |
| Andrew | Yeah. It has everything you need out of a digital watch. It's got your countdowns, timers, alarms. It just also happens to look like a boom box. |
| Everett | Cool. Number three for me. I came in to get one of these. I keep meaning to get one of these. Not the first time we've talked about this watch on the show. It could be the third. Could be. This is a Casio Protrek. And the Casio Protrek I picked for today is the PRG600Y. This has got a world time style bezel, which gives it sort of normal watch look. It gives it a little bit of a normal watch look. Some of the Protreks are pretty gadget-y. |
| Andrew | They look super gadget-y. And they are. I mean, in fairness, they have 38 functions, including time telling. Right. |
| Everett | Right. I think this is probably the look I'd go for if I was going to get a Protrek. But in terms of office wearability. What's happening on that bracelet, that strap? You know, it's an integrated plastic rubber, you know, rubberized plastic strap. They screw in with hex nuts, I think. into the side, um, or, or, you know, some sort of Allen nut into the side. They look pretty cool. They, they do look cool, man. They're, you know, it's a weekend watch though. 52 millimeters. One of the things we've talked about. It's a long weekend watch. That's right. This, this would be a watch that I would wear for heading out to the wilderness for a while. You know, they're all solar powered. They're all, um, gonna do things that you need them to do. when you're not sort of connected, when you're unplugged. Brew a K-cup. What's that? I'm thinking brew a K-cup. Man, wouldn't that be cool? I'd wear that. Espresso watch? I'd wear that watch. I'd wear that watch. I don't think these actually have that function, but they do everything else. Every single other thing you'd want to watch to do. GMT. I mean, everything. ABC, DEF. |
| Andrew | QRP. Yeah. |
| Everett | All of it. These are... QRP, I think, is the most |
| Andrew | the the most sort of useful thing these watches do probably so these are one of the most impressive technologies i think in the watch world is all the functionalities that this style of watch can pack into that that size so big think of all the sensors that are in there it's it sounds like you so sensitive yeah it is yeah that's a watch i would wear Ah, fuck man. I love the- Some nips that got hard if it was cold in the watch face. |
| Everett | You know what I really like is the Protrek logo. |
| Andrew | Yeah, offset green against the kind of silvery black, like slatey. |
| Everett | And it's super 80s, super 80s that logo is. And you know, so here you have this very modern watch. Modern angles, modern fonts. You know, high tech and they've got this like happy green 1980s Seattle outdoor brand logo. I love it. It looks like the Jansport font. Right, right. You know, this, this, you would not be surprised to walk into any heritage brand out of Seattle or Portland and to see their, you know, 1980s catalog with, with this font on the front of it. It should have it on there. Right. This is the font. Yeah. And they don't mess with it. That's our font. That's our logo. We love it. You know, even G-Shock, G-Shock logo has been updated over time. I'm just leaving this one, and I love it. |
| Andrew | We'll update Casio, not Protrek. That's sacred. |
| Everett | Can we talk about your third watch? |
| Andrew | All right. Here it is. This is actually my fourth watch. I just ordered one of these, by the way. Smart. Yeah. Smart. So next up is the Roger Dubuis Excalibur, Knights of the Round Table. |
| Everett | I feel so dumb that we're even talking about this. |
| Andrew | I don't, and here's why. Okay. This watch costs $260,000 money. |
| Everett | Which is why it's a weekend watch because in my opinion, if you hold on, I got one, I got one way cheaper than that on chrono 24 right now. Two 57,000 money. |
| Andrew | Yes. Yes. Uh, so my thinking on it is this is a weekend watch because if you can drop a quarter million dollars on a watch, your life is weekend. This is perhaps one of the coolest pieces of watch craftsmanship I have ever seen at each of the hour markers, rests a knight. A statue. A statue. And from what I've read, these are all handmade, handcrafted. Wow, for that much money. Yeah, right. You'd hope. So you've got 12 statue, 12 knights in statue form around the perimeter of this watch, all with a lance or a sword. It's hard to tell. Pointing towards Lance. |
| Everett | It's not a, of course that's a sword. These are knights of the round table, man. Lance. |
| Andrew | Swords pointing towards the center of your watch. |
| Everett | The watch is called Excalibur. |
| Andrew | You know what? We'll fight. We'll fight today. |
| Everett | Today, today is your day. Would you guys listen? Would you guys listen to that if we did like a podcast version of us fighting? Or if we did a YouTube of it? They would definitely watch that. I just want to know if they'd be satisfied with just the sound of Fist of Flesh. |
| Andrew | first instagram live tv more likely streaming fingernail to hair yeah oh yeah yeah i have entirely too much hair it gets pulled um the craftsmanship on the dial itself all engraved it is 45 days of work just for the dial it it's beauty for beauty's sake and it has one of the things that i thought you'd really like about it look at that crown |
| Everett | Yeah, that's epic. That's a big old crown. It's big and it's good looking. |
| Andrew | And look at these bracelets too. They've got... What is this? |
| Everett | Do you know these RE-821s? They're in-house obviously, but are they in-house in-house or do you know if they're... I don't know if they're outsourcing parts. |
| Andrew | I imagine... I don't know. They sell like probably five of these a year. So they could probably afford to pay dudes to make movements. |
| Everett | Yeah, I mean, they only made 28 of these total. They only made 28 of these. The latest generation self-winding mechanical movements. 170, yeah, I mean, it looks like it's totally in-house. |
| Andrew | I bet if we took a picture of that exploded view, we could make this movement. |
| Everett | Let's do that. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | It's probably a reasonably affordable venture. |
| Andrew | I mean, we have files and we can get scrap metal. |
| Everett | We could go down to Harbor Freight and get one of those mini lathes. |
| Andrew | Yeah. But anyway, I picked this watch a little bit facetiously, obviously, because it's $260,000 money. Secondly, because this is an extremely impressive work of art, I'm willing to call it. And thirdly, if you can spend that kind of money on a watch, you don't work. |
| Everett | If I stole this, I'd wear it to work. Yeah, for the day. No, I think that feels right. Like if it were you or me, if I had enough money to afford this watch, I probably wouldn't work very hard. But I think the people that actually have enough money to afford this watch probably work harder than either one of us put together. Both of us put together. |
| Andrew | Why? |
| Everett | Retire. But that's not how that works, right? Wealthy people. You know, you've got Warren Buffett. He's 98 and he's still hustling, man. That's just not how the brain works. |
| Andrew | I could find other things to put my attention to. |
| Everett | No, I definitely could too, which is why we're going to continue to be affordable watch snobs. |
| Andrew | Mojitos and the like. Right. Mexican beer, beach. |
| Everett | Yeah, lots of Mexican beer. Lots of Mexican beer. Can we go back to Mexico? I think we should. I want to do that. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | We should wait till winter though. |
| Andrew | Yeah, no, definitely. I don't want to leave 100-degree weather to meet 120-degree weather to return to 100-degree weather. That sounds like the worst possible scenario. |
| Everett | So, in the next episode, we're actually going to talk about what Mexican city we should go to next. |
| Andrew | And it's going to be live streaming. |
| Everett | Live streaming, full T-chart. We're going to have some guests in, you know, call-in, listener call-ins. |
| Andrew | We've got a number set up. Yep. Winner, winning city is the city that we can go to that you have a |
| Everett | Residence in and we can stay for free right where you have your time sure that you're willing to loan us. |
| Andrew | Yeah for the week I'll take you heard it here first What kind of other things you got? |
| Everett | you know, I had a couple I had a couple things that I I thought about talking about but End of day I settled on a YouTube channel that I I've been sort of just binging recently The channel is called draw with Jazza. Jazza. Jazz hands. And he's an Australian guy. He's an Australian guy. And I'm not actually really a drawer or an artist. Drawer? Like Simon. |
| Andrew | Oh, OK. |
| Everett | Yeah. So it's not something I do. Right. Although it's something that's interesting to me. It's interesting. Obviously, I've been binging these shows, but he's got a ton of videos. This is obviously his Uh, passion, you know, I think that he's a commercial artist and he's, he's got these great skills, but he's turned this YouTube into his career and he, he publishes multiple videos a week. I would say, I would say he's posting, you know, more than once a week. And I don't know how often, uh, I don't know how often, frankly, two days ago, five days ago, six days ago. |
| Andrew | 4.2 million subscribers. |
| Everett | Yeah. Tons of subscribers and his videos are really fun. They're really fun. I was actually talking to my mom, of all people, about this channel. She says he... I was too, oddly enough. He talks a little too much and so she wishes he would get to the drawing. But, you know, he's charming and he just has a ton of fun. You can tell he loves what he does. And every single video that I've watched of his, has been super fun. It looks like they make you laugh too. They do. He's a funny dude and he's not over the top. He can be a little campy but he does linoleum carving, he does a lot of computer aided drawing with a stylus and a tablet but he also does pens and Paints and colored pencils and anything you can imagine he uses including some kind of weird stuff Food sculpture what food is the best for sculpture? Yeah, you know carrots apparently carrots apparently so he's you know, it's pretty tongue-in-cheek He does not take himself too seriously. And and if you want to spend about 17 hours Dead to the world watching videos. I'd say this is a great place to start because he's got a ton of videos I don't know that it says here how many videos it is, but it's a lot It's a lot |
| Andrew | Just hit play all and settle in. Right. Grab about 10 beers. |
| Everett | Two liters of Mountain Dew Code Red. That's right. And some beef jerky. Yeah. |
| Andrew | What else could you need for the weekend? |
| Everett | That's my other thing this week. I was going to talk about a dry bag that I haven't really liked. I was like, that's fucking boring. Go to REI and buy the cheapest dry bag they have. |
| Andrew | Your little baby dry bag? |
| Everett | Yeah. That's right. That's the one. What about you, my man? Other things. |
| Andrew | Uh, other things. I watched a new movie this week called Murder Mystery. |
| Everett | I also watched Murder Mystery this week, which we are just, we are just now discovering that online live. |
| Andrew | Yeah. Fantastic. We heard it here first. We heard it. Uh, so it's got Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston, who I don't, I can't recall a movie they've been in together previous to this. |
| Everett | Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can't recall one either. Well, they did well. |
| Andrew | They did well. They have a good chemistry. Adam Sandler's still killing it. Jennifer Aniston's still killing it. |
| Everett | No, Adam Sandler is not still killing it. I think so. He was, it was fun. I loved the movie. I really liked it. You didn't like Ridiculous 6? Uh, no. Wow. No, I did not. I did not like it. Also, I think his Netflix releases, he's had a couple of them now. I don't think that they've been fantastic. I don't think that Adam Sandler has made a very good movie since... He hasn't evolved. Since Spanglish. Spanglish, and what was the other one? The one... Big Daddy. Oh, what was the one? Eight Crazy Nights. Well, that's actually not a bad movie. I don't hate it. No, I'm thinking of his other sort of serious role. It'll come to me. So anyway... Oh, Punch Drunk Love? Punch Drunk Love. |
| Andrew | That's the one. I don't think Adam Sandler's evolved in his movies, and I'm totally cool with it. Very little. So anyway, Murder Mystery is a reasonably predictable, but fun, I think even a good date night movie once the kids are asleep. |
| Everett | I watched it with my wife. I did too. After the kids were asleep. |
| Andrew | Well, with my wife, not yours. Whatever. It's one half dozen to the other. It was funny. I mean, I laughed out loud. I saw it coming, but like we've talked about, I'm better at that than some people. You're more annoying about that than some people. No, I don't point it out. I just sit there and revel in my success. And then at the end, I tell people, which I think means most people don't believe me, but anyway, it's a whole other thing. As it stands, it is a kind of reminiscent of like This is 40, like a look, a much more slapstick look inside the struggles of a 15 year or more marriage yeah a lot of it like a lot of fights that occurred i was like wow we've had this fight yeah we've done this like we i've said that word it was a lot of fun no i thought it was a lot of fun and i thought that the comedy was good it would nothing was sort of so groan worthy that i wanted to turn it off enjoyable yeah and i didn't look at my watch That's kind of my litmus test for whether or not a movie's worth watching or not. |
| Everett | An enjoyable evening of gratis entertainment. Yeah. I liked it. And Jennifer Aniston was great. She's always been my celebrity crush. Jennifer Aniston. Ever since the old Friends days. I was like, that's the one for me. |
| Andrew | I can see that. She probably doesn't feel the same. We don't know that. What's crazy is that, what, 20 years later? Like, she looks better, you look worse. |
| Everett | Oh, no. No, I definitely look worse. Yeah, she's aging better than I am, but she's cool with that. Yeah. Yeah. Adam Sandler is looking better than he has recently. |
| Andrew | Yeah, like about 10 years ago, he looked kind of like he was near death. Yeah, quite near it. And now he's looking healthy. He's back to going crazy on screen and it was good. I liked it. always i've also grew up with adam sandler movies me too um so adam sandler they're all gonna laugh at you was like the first sort of naughty comedy album that i bought i had it on cd they're all gonna laugh at you i had a couple of his song cds but anyway murder mystery worth a watch hour and a half it's already on netflix you don't have to go rent it you don't have to go to red box and risk accidentally buying a Redbox movie you hate. None of that. |
| Everett | Do people still, I mean, I still see them places. It just astonishes me that people still use Redbox. |
| Andrew | Some things aren't available for rental other places. Like new, new, new releases. |
| Everett | Is that right? I think you can get anything on, on, on Amazon, Amazon Play. |
| Andrew | It's certainly more expensive. Double the price. |
| Everett | Okay, well that might be fair. |
| Andrew | It's like four bucks to rent something on Amazon, a buck seventy five at Redbox. |
| Everett | Okay, I'm cheap. All right. Well, that's fair. That's fair. That's a good, that's a good pragmatic reason to still use. |
| Andrew | And if I'm going to be at the grocery store anyway, because let's be serious. When you have kids, you go to the grocery store three times a week. |
| Everett | You know, the thing about a red box is they never, I never pay ticket for red box. I always pay at least three or four times what I should have paid. |
| Andrew | Yeah. Cause you forget it. That's why I own one. You, you own a red box? Well, a movie from the red box. Oh, I got an email once from red box. So like, Hey, congratulations. You purchased this video. |
| Everett | Oh, I don't even have a DVD player. I have a PlayStation 3 still. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You don't know, but I have I have devices that I could play DVDs on still. Yeah, I didn't think about that. All right. Well, good. Anything else in terms of other stuff? Nothing for me. I don't have anything else. That's called a happy Father's Day. All right. Thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20. Don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches. food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Bye-bye. Our music today is Bummin' on Tremolo by Kevin MacLeod of incompetech.com, licensed under creative comments by attribution 3.01. you |