Watches, and a Bittersweet Announcement (324)

Published on Wed, 08 Jan 2025 22:22:56 -0800

Synopsis

In this episode of the Watch Clicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett announce they are changing their publishing schedule from Thursdays to Tuesdays. They discuss several new watch releases, including new models from IWC (a special Mercedes AMG Petronas team Mark 20), Oris (Pro Pilot X Miss Piggy Edition), Seagull (a split-second chronograph), and P.S. Orology (the Suba Blue and Suba Dongsan watches). They also cover Tag Heuer becoming Formula One's official timekeeper again and discuss Rolex's pricing stabilization.

The hosts also delve into non-watch topics, including their thoughts on the Apple TV+ series "Silo" and the movie "Parasite," which Everett recently rewatched and praised for its technical excellence and storytelling. The episode ends with their usual sign-off and a reminder about their new Tuesday release schedule.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Everett Everett, how are you? So good. I'm relaxed.
Andrew Chilling.
Everett Chilling. Uh, yeah, no, I'm really good. You know, uh, took a week off, uh, went down to LA. Don't want to talk about it. Um, and I, you know,
Andrew Some things are happening in LA now. Oh, yeah.
Everett Well, that's, we did that on the way out.
Andrew Smart.
Everett Yeah. No, I'm just joking. Please don't take me seriously. It's terrible what's happening.
Andrew Yeah. I, my oldest, we were, I was looking at it and I gasped when I saw how much everything grew overnight. And he's like, what? And I was like, well, this like series of, this one particular fire in LA is this big. And then I did an overlay of an area map on our city and I used some landmarks in the city that he could recognize, at least insofar as like he's been there and he recognizes that it's not a short drive to get there. I'm like, this is like from this landmark to this landmark and that. And if we go to those four places, everything inside of that circle is on fire, gone.
Everett Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, really sort of, when you think about the amount of people that are being affected, there's so many people in LA, you know, being down there, that's the one thing that, um, you know, just miles and miles and miles and miles of population. Um, yeah, just the amount of people being affected by those fires is crazy. So yes, I made a joke. It was in poor taste. I'm sorry. I apologize.
Andrew And we don't want to talk about why you were in LA. We're going to move on right from that.
Everett Well, Andrew, uh, well first let me ask you, how are you?
Andrew I'm good. You know, a little worn out. Um, but you know, just chugging on along living, living life. Yeah.
Everett Just doing what we do. Is that a athletic brewing company beer? It is. Is that what I think it is?
Andrew It's exactly what you think it is.
Unknown Is that a non-alcoholic beer?
Andrew It is. It's dry January. Oh man, I did like drought January last year where the only time I drank beer was do any of these have booze? Yeah, the Topo Chico does. I brought those for you. You're welcome. I did. I did drought January last year where the only time I drank beer was when we were recording. And you gave me this smart ass remark, like, well, uh, diet Coke can sounds the same as a beer can. And I was like, yeah, but I also like beer. So it's like my reprieve. So I'm drinking and a beer on our recording nights, uh, because Oh, fuck you. Everett.
Everett All right. I dig it, man. I dig it. Yeah. Well, I, at first I was like, yeah, I said, is that what I think it is?
Andrew Yeah. A couple of times actually.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew I answered in the affirmative and you're still in disbelief.
Everett Well, here we are, Andrew. I believe 624 episodes in.
Andrew Feels like it. Yeah, for sure.
Everett And it, yeah, yeah. Did I say 600? You did. Yes. Six plus years, 324 episodes in and we've got an announcement.
Andrew We do. It's a decision we've not made lightly.
Everett Not even a little bit. We have decided that at this point, the time is right to step away from publishing every Thursday. There's a lot of things that went into that. I know changes in Andrew's life. specifically just work schedule stuff and changes in my life. Well, really more it's Andrew's schedule.
Andrew It's me, but also, you know, we've talked about all of it. We've just talked it to death. The horse is no longer, like, we're not beating a dead horse, we're just pounding on the ground.
Everett Yeah. So with that in mind, starting now, we will no longer be publishing every Thursday. Instead, we will be publishing every Tuesday. Yeah. but we're going to skip one Tuesday.
Andrew Oops. We didn't, we didn't plan this very well.
Everett We are going to skip one Tuesday. So, uh, you will be hearing this on January 9th, correct? And our next episode will go up Tuesday, January 21st, 21st.
Andrew You're looking at a calendar too.
Everett I'm not. I tried to pull it up. I was too slow. So, uh, starting with episode 325, I believe that's right.
Andrew It doesn't matter.
Everett Our next episode will be on Tuesday and that's it.
Andrew That's our big announcement.
Everett I do. Yeah. We, we kind of decided last minute to, to do that bit. So if it was poorly played, we're sorry.
Andrew I think you should have just left it. Like we'll no longer be publishing on Thursdays anymore. Like we won't be publishing every Thursday. And then, you know, don't forget to tune back in Tuesday, January 21st for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like, but that's fine. You know, whatever you kind of like you steered into it. And then you like backed off at the last second. It's okay. Like we all can't be as good as other people.
Everett I was always bad at that game. Penis. Did you ever play that game as a kid?
Andrew like the Pen15 game where you write Pen15, or get people to write Pen15 on their hand?
Everett No, no, this, you know, I actually have no clue if this was a game that other people played or just my group friend played, friend group played, but we had a game called Penis, and the trick was, the game was, it was like a game of chicken, and you would alternate, you would alternate saying penis progressively louder,
Andrew Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, that that was a that was a widely spread game.
Everett Okay.
Andrew Yeah, it's okay It took you explaining the game, but we know that what's called it.
Everett I was bad at that game.
Andrew That's my point Yeah, which is weird cuz you're just like you're just loud always even your quiet voice is loud That was my point.
Everett Like I'd be like, I'm gonna do it this time and then we'd get to it and I'd be like Nope, can't do it There's this girl in our friend group. I won't say her name. I don't think it would ever get back to her, but this is a girl in our friend group who was like, she always won because she would like, in fucking church, stop what she was doing, put her shit down, stand up and belt it out. And you'd be like, yeah, you win.
Andrew I don't know how I don't know if I won't want to talk that you won once again. Well done grand champion. Well done. That's a strange thing to scream. Although I guess it's like a teenage girl that everyone's going to look and I like concerned, but you hear a boy voice yelling that you're like, shut the hell up.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Andrew She has a competitive edge. Yeah. And she was also better at it.
Everett Yeah. I mean, it was just like the most natural thing in the world. She was like, there's no way you're going to beat me at this game. And she was right. Especially not me.
Unknown No.
Everett And people would try just be yelling penis. Yeah.
Andrew That's a, you know, it's a perfectly normal thing to do.
Everett Yeah. Sorry if your kids are in the car, but you shouldn't be listening to us. If your kids are in the car anyway, you know, really ought to not, you, you've known that for years at this point, basically since our first episode with Justin, you know, it would be amazing if somebody's kids got somebody's like 10 year old got suspended from school for playing penis.
Andrew I'm sure it's still happening.
Everett It must, right? I mean, I didn't even know if it was a game that other people play.
Andrew So we were we weren't that geographically apart, but in terms of like timing of playing that game, there's a there's a gap.
Everett I mean, I think our schools were what, like three miles apart, maybe less.
Andrew I think more than that, but not not by much.
Everett Yeah. Anyway, we're not here to talk about penis. We could be though rather we are here to talk about watches And Andrew you remarked you remarked that you were excited about this week And I think I have to there were two cool things that came out there were some kind of busts that came out There's some things that we do need to talk about that came out. Yeah But even if we don't need to talk about and we're gonna talk about
Andrew No, there's just some things that are like worth mentioning and then there were a couple cool things that came out I'm gonna start with something that we just should talk about IWC there's two IWC watches that I want to talk about you can feel free to talk about the one One or the other because I'm based on how few things you sent me. I'm assuming there was some overlap No, I just sent my list.
Everett Oh, okay.
Andrew That's not my list.
Everett I didn't open up all of them I opened up the ones that weren't already open so I didn't and I didn't look at yours I just I pulled up my links.
Andrew I sent them to you what great teamwork here So IWC has a special release Mark 20 for the Mercedes AMG Patronus team. And unlike many of the previous watches for F1 races, this is not just the pilot's watch. This is available to the entire crew. and available to the general public. So it is a special edition Mark 20 in that classic green with color matched loom to the strap titanium Mark 20, which isn't that new. It's just a new colorway. And it's special because it's for the Mercedes AMG Petronas team, which is cool. This is a worthwhile thing to talk about. And it's not that, I think it might even be, I didn't remember to look at the Mark 20 pricing, but this is about aligned with where I think Mark 20s are at, which is about 60, 100 bucks. For me, it's a little north because the special edition, but it's in the zone, yeah. And it's a titanium Mark 20. So I don't know if, I mean, that's gonna have a little bit of a premium on it, but it's got the Patronus logo etched into the case back. It's lovely. It's a cool green too. This is like maybe one of my favorite green iterations, because it's a black dial or slate dial with green loom and a color matched green strap.
Everett You know, I, I think there are Mark 17s, is it Mark 17? I think that there are titanium prior Mark versions with a bracelet and I don't believe that they have yet released a Mark 20, a titanium Mark 20 on a bracelet and once again they haven't. I It's kind of a miss for me. This watch feels to me like such a fucking bracelet watch.
Andrew I agree.
Everett Put this thing on a titanium bracelet. I'd really, really love it. In fact, I looked at this watch.
Andrew I think there might be some safety concerns with having a titanium bracelet on an F1 pilot.
Everett Oh, well, maybe, but. It's a watch that I'm gonna buy, not the F1 pilot.
Andrew I might be wrong in that, but as I'm thinking about like personal protective equipment. Give me the strap. I want that rubber strap to melt off and get that piece of molten metal off of me.
Everett Ship it with the strap and then ship it with the bracelet. Yeah. I mean, I'm with you. I understand what you're saying, but I do want this. That green is fantastic.
Andrew It is. It's it's it would have been really easy to just do a green dial and then have a black strap. And I think this color match the loom and strap is a cool thing.
Everett And and I think that the strap on this thing, it's got their ease exchange system, IWC, which supposedly pretty rad. It's got like a button. But who fucking cares if there's no bracelet, right?
Andrew Oh, yeah. It's like the. It's that same button press technology is with Cartier.
Everett Yes. Well, similar. Maybe it's exactly the same. I think it's IWC proprietary.
Andrew They've named it. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Which is super secure and doesn't get accidentally depressed because it's a pretty deep depression to when it's IWC, you know, it's going to be fucking tight.
Everett Perfect. Yeah, but Yeah, I agree with you really good-looking watch really really attractive dial. It's a mark 20.
Andrew It's a titanium mark 20, but it's a mark 20 So yeah, yeah something I wanted to talk about. No, I appreciate it. It's not super exciting It's just a thing worth mentioning that happened cuz f1 is is getting into the swing of things There's some f1 news this week. It is there.
Everett I don't know it cuz I don't follow I've got a watch I want to talk about do me I I love this watch. Like I'm almost like, I want to buy this watch. Um, but I'm not going to because I wouldn't because it doesn't make any sense. But Oris released the pro pilot X miss piggy edition. It's 34 millimeters. It's got a diamond. The hands are maybe too short. But other than that, this watch is really, really fun.
Andrew Is this, is there a date? Oh, I like it. It's got a Miss Piggy on the case back in lieu of a date window on the front, like the Kermit. So this is the, this is the hers version to Kermit that came out, was it two years ago that Kermit came out? Correctamundo. Yeah. Yes. The hers version with Miss Piggy featured on the case back. Does it rotate? The case back? No, the Miss Piggy image through the case back.
Everett Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yes, it says it appears and disappears as the rotor rotates. It's printed on the rotor with just an aperture.
Andrew The first. Stainless steel for the pro pilot X is that that has to be true if they're writing it, but I didn't realize they were all titanium prior to this.
Everett I think that that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got a baguette at 12 o'clock. It's I mean, it's a pro pilot X. It's 3200 bucks. It's this really, really. Crazy shade of pink.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett I mean, it's like borderline nuts. And the markers are just a slightly cooler shade of pink, which really makes them pop in sort of, I find, an aesthetically pleasing way. It's a terrific watch. It's really good.
Andrew Yeah, and they're almost like a satin finished as opposed to a very matte finish on the dial.
Everett Yeah, no, it's the it's like that blasted sandy finish. This is the same. I think it's the same texture on on all of the pro pilots. So.
Andrew Yeah. The baguette's baller.
Everett It's pretty small. You imagine this is a 34 millimeter watch, so it's not overdone at all. The only thing about this watch that's overdone is the color, purposefully so, and as overdone as it is, it's perfect.
Andrew Yep, it matches.
Everett Yeah. If you've got a Kermit Pro Pilot X, get your sweetie a Miss Piggy ProPILOT X, and just all out.
Andrew I think there's some inherent problems with giving your significant other a Miss Piggy anything.
Everett You need to know your wife probably, or your sweetie I should say.
Andrew I have Writ, because he likes it. Yeah.
Everett um and right so if if if that's going to be something that offends your partner maybe then don't do it but i think for the right partner this is just about perfect i think it's fantastic i just i just love this watch it's a good release at 34 millimeters i know it would be too small for my wrist i just know i wouldn't wear it but If it was 37, 38, I'd be on it. I'd be on it.
Andrew I think even at 36, it'd be good.
Everett Yeah. I mean, that's really the, that's really sort of kind of your floor.
Andrew Yeah. Uh, next up for me, IWC does this thing where they just kind of don't mention it when they release things. Like there's no publicity around it. Like, Oh, Hey, this is here now. Well, you know, they do press releases, but But it's, there's no hype, there's no buildup. It's, oh, hey, we did this. So the, we have two rose gold versions of the Portuguesier.
Everett It is pronounced Portugieser.
Andrew Oh, Portugieser.
Everett Portugieser.
Andrew Okay.
Everett The emphasis is on the two, Portugieser.
Andrew Oh, I thought the emphasis is on the geezer. For you, old man, 40 and 42 in the sizing, a small seconds at the six, and a... In the 40. In the 40, and a Bicompax in the 42, in rose gold. Worth mentioning, because this is just beautiful. This is one of my favorite dress watches ever, and at 40 and 42, I don't think it quite fits the bill, but that's what these are. These are intentional dress watches. I mean, maybe they're like the modern iteration of the one watch that I have. It's still got a spec sheet to it, right? The water resistance on these is 50 meters, but these are dress watches. They're both crazy expensive. The 40 is 19,000 euros and the 42, 27,000 euros.
Everett yeah yeah well yeah these these are these are luxury watches yeah it does seem like iwc is sort of leaning into the Portugieser? Yeah, whatever. I don't know how to say it. Portugester? It does seem like they've been leaning into this watch.
Andrew Because they did a couple variations last, well now, I guess they did some in 2024 too, but they're doing some stuff with this platform.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right. Rose gold, obviously. It's a stunning watch. I think that the chronograph to me has some proportion problems.
Andrew It's not a small seconds.
Everett I know it's a little bit of a weird design, but I still really like it for me the sub dials stretch the face in the north-south direction giving it sort of like an Oblong like oval look even though it's clearly not an oval and it bothers me I think it's the lug shape to where the pin placement is on the lugs It pulls that strap out and away from the case.
Andrew So you get some strap gap which creates a little bit of an optical illusion that almost gives it like a like a wired lug kind of look and feel, even though they're definitely not.
Everett With that said, the small seconds, to me, just looks perfect. You know what I really like is they put this huge sub-second sub-dial on here. I mean, it's enormous, right? Yeah, it goes to the chapter ring to the pin. And I don't think that they had to modify the numerals or the markers for it. The marker.
Andrew They didn't.
Everett And the numerals all fit. Something about that is really, really appealing to me.
Andrew They didn't.
Everett They fitted in. It's just like get in your home sub-seconds.
Andrew Which is proof that it's possible. Quit being lazy and cutting out chunks of your markers. Yeah.
Everett Yeah, I really like that aspect of it. You know, it's IWC. It's a fantastic watch. It's nothing special.
Andrew And frankly... But I think everything is special about it. I think IWC is... IWC has always been on my radar, like it's always been a really cool brand, but I'm getting more and more appreciation for IWC. Really, with each passing day.
Everett And you either like red gold or you don't. I will say this about IWC's red gold. It's a pretty yellow red gold. So if you don't like rose gold, but yellow gold can be too cold, I think this may... This is gold you put in the microwave for 30 seconds just to bring it back up to temp. That's right. I did that with my coffee about 45 minutes before I came over here. Yeah, this is perfect. It's really, really beautiful watch.
Andrew They're limited too, I think.
Everett Is that right? No. I don't think so.
Andrew I thought they were. They're not limited.
Everett I think it's an unlimited release. Yeah. I wanna talk about a watch here, Andrew. Well good, this is what we do here. Let me just say. I am, I'm not wild about this watch. I'm going to say, I'm going to mention on the show. It's not that I don't like it. I think it's great. Okay. So let's just get this out of the way. Out of order.
Andrew Yeah. This was an interesting pick.
Everett Out of order made a watch. So out of order is kind of a funny company.
Andrew It's a brand I'm not sure we've ever talked about.
Everett I am sure we have not talked about them. It's an Italian brand and their brand slogan is damaged in Italy. The theme of the business is like sort of distressed watches. So they're selling very gently distressed watches, sort of like the late 80s guests of the watch world. Okay. This watch is attractive, but it is, I think for me to suggest that it's derivative will not scandalize anyone. It's a dive watch with a mother of pearl dial. It comes in three colors. There's sort of like a green, like a foresty Kelly green. There's a teal, a leaning blue teal. And there is a, what are we gonna call that? Coral pink.
Andrew I think pink is appropriate.
Everett Yeah. You know, it's mother of pearl, so it winds up being kind of coral. They've got aluminum bezels. These are snowflake sub things. They've got crown guards. They've got good proportions. They've got sort of big block markers like Seiko style block markers. 100 meters of water resistance. Fine, fine, fine. However, The reason I want to talk about this is because of the author of the article on Worn and Wound that we're going to post in the show notes is Elodie Townsend. And I believe this is Elodie's first watch review on Worn and Wound. Elodie is the daughter of good friend of the show Blaine Townsend. And she is now a watch writer. And I thought, well, this is terrific. And I'm going to mention the article. I'm going to mention Elodie, congratulations to you. I'm going to mention Blaine because I love that guy. And As a matter of circumstance, I'm going to mention the perfectly fine and even attractive, out of order, mother of pearl quartz diaper.
Andrew You know, I've, I've seen out of order only in the context of, uh, that watch spinner. Like roulette wheel brand you it's they have like a subscription and you can like Watch watch watch gang. That's the first time I saw out of order. I looked at the brand and I was like, okay that like Okay, well like look right it's sort of I No, but it makes perfect sense. The selection of watches on Watch Gang is always a really revolving door. It's always really interesting. It's not always very cool, but it's all interesting. It's like, man, I've never seen that before, and I'll never see it again. Yeah, that's right. Like weird Bok-Tok stuff. It's interesting. I go there every once in a while just to look at like, what do they have now? In the vein of kind of interesting things that we've never seen before, there is a zombie brand that has, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with calling it a zombie brand because it's a brand that went away in the 80s and is now back. Zombie, zombie. But it's a hundred-year-old brand name. Simye, maybe, I think is what we're gonna go with. Simye. Simye? Simye. Yeah, I looked it up. Did too. I looked it up how to say it see me. I didn't and you didn't either. I really did Oh see me a yeah, I Was like, how do you say that? I was really close so the new see me a 7-eleven heritage chronograph pop collection coming in three colors a Kind of radioactive green a peach and a Powder blue, maybe periwinkle blue kind of feel. Dare we say Tiffany? No, we don't say Tiffany. I really would like to, I think it's fascinating that there is a trademark on a color. So anyway, these watches are- There are lots of them. But just like from that brand, right?
Everett You ever heard of a company called Pantone?
Andrew Sherwin-Williams? But from that brand, right? It doesn't matter, we're moving on. This is a 39 millimeter, Kind of tonneau we each Casey 60s feel case So 39 and a half 14 four or five thick not super jacked on that but because it is a 7750 that's what we get right? Yeah, that's it's a it's a 7750 thick-ass And that's exactly what you want to do as you're reintroducing a watch brand that's 100 years old, inspired by this era of watch. Anything else would have been a travesty. This is an exciting reintroduction because it shows they're serious about pulling this heritage brand back together and doing it right. They're not just slapping in a Mecca quartz and like, oh, we've reintroduced the brand. they're reintroducing the brand as a as a brand, as a quality watch. So seventy seven fifties in these twenty five hundred Swiss francs. Water resistance on these is. I don't see it. It is a hundred meters. This is fun.
Everett It is. No, I think it's terrific.
Andrew This is fun and I'm excited for what this offering means for the reintroduction of the brand and what else they're gonna pull out of that portfolio and do right. There's no reason for them to do the first one right if they're gonna do the rest like shit. They did the first one. Right.
Everett Is this their reintroduction watch? I thought they came out with another watch. Did they do another one? I don't... I could be wrong, Andrew. Oh, there's a skeletonized... I don't think... Well, and so the 7-Eleven was released, I believe, last year. They released it in a beautiful sunburst blue and a couple of other colors. I don't think we talked about it on the show, but I remember thinking at the time like, okay, it's fine. And then when it came back up in my feed this week, I sort of looked back into it And I was like, no, this is worth talking about. It's a really neat watch. They've done cool things with the dial. The 7-Eleven, Andrew, did you per chance get a opportunity to... Because that's where the sub-dials are at.
Andrew Okay, yes.
Everett I think that's just terrific.
Andrew I saw that and I was like, oh, yes. Which makes far more sense than the convenience store named 7-Eleven.
Everett Did you read about the faux chronograph that this is kind of ish based on? I did not. So, so CMA released a watch, I think back in the sixties that they called the faux chronograph, which was a, it actually didn't look all that much like this. Although there were some similarities. Essentially what it was, was a watch that appeared to be a chronograph with two sub seconds, but it was just, they were just a suspended small seconds that you operated manually. So it was like a short interval stopwatch. Cool. Which is cool. I think it is cool. Uh, and, and they called it the faux chronograph, which they weren't trying to, they weren't trying to pull the, uh, you know, wool over anybody's eyes. They were, it was cool. It's cool. This is a brand that's like, I do this a little bit different in an interesting way. Now this watch, beautiful, isn't probably nothing special about it, but it's an automatic 7750 chronograph for a reasonable price. Yeah. It's a, it's a what?
Andrew 3,300 bucks in the neighborhood of, yeah. So it's not cheap, but, but you're also, this isn't, I should amend. This is kind of them getting back into watch. Whole design since 2010 this brand has been doing watchmaking. Mm-hmm And now they're also slapping a case around what they're doing. So this isn't like a We've just revitalized. There's there's some some momentum that's been generated here. But this is they're kind of coming back into like Finished product total product and they're like look at us Look at us.
Unknown We're cool
Everett See me a see me a see see me a yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I went the principal says in Canada see me I'm with you. Yeah, it was on my list. It was on my list this week, too So I'm with you on that one pretty pretty neat watch I want to save that one for last. I'm going to talk about the Longines Ultracron Carbon, which does, to me, Ultracron sounds like a Transformers character.
Andrew or a Avenger villain.
Everett Yeah, that's right. Transformer, J.J. Abrams is what popped into my head, but I don't think you're wrong. The Ultracron is a historical watch made by Longines that I think they introduced this in steel two or three years ago. They are now following in the footsteps of its sister, of Longines sister brand, Tissot, releasing a steel watch from their lineup in carbon, in carbon. This is a big ass, 300 meter carbon cased diver watch. So it's big. It's 43 millimeters. It's like 13.
Andrew Which is kind of necessary. Aren't most carbon releases a little bit larger than their steel counterparts just because of the nature of working with carbon?
Everett Perhaps. I actually don't know the answer to that question, Andrew, but I wouldn't, I would be surprised at all to learn you're right. Um, It's stunning. It is look, it's beautiful. It's got this like box sapphire crystal. It's really monochromatic. Obviously you got that dark you know, monochromatic black and gray case. You've got this really like beautiful dished black dial. Uh, you've got steel bezel with an aluminum insert. You've got a time lab chronometer certification. You've got a fantastic in-house launching movement. Um, 5,000 bucks, which is a lot of money. Here's, here's where, here's where the wheels fall off. It's a fixed bezel.
Unknown It's a fixed bezel.
Unknown Why? I think, I think carbon maybe. It's a fixed bezel. There's plenty of carbon watches that have a rotating bezel. I'm with you. I'm with you, my man. I'm with you.
Andrew Now Tissot and Longine have both done a weird fixed bezel. That was not on my 2025 predictions for fixed bezel nonsense. But I will say that if we take it back to last week, I did predict Two things that are already starting to come true In in that one of them has happened one time and then the other one is a reality But I I'm I think we're gonna see a lot more carbon this year We're gonna see carbon and novel material use what I really like about this Execution of the carbon is the texturizing Cuts like the way this was milled is you get a kind of almost meteorite feel on the top of the case right at the lug edges Yeah, and then a linear path along the sides of the case There's a name for this texture when you make carbon.
Everett I can't remember. I'm just blanking It's right on the tip of my tongue, but there's a name for the like when striations yeah when they tear the fibers when they set them and And there's a name for that, but I'm blanking on it. So I don't remember. That's it.
Andrew I might not have even known it.
Everett Uh, yeah, I do think you're right that we're going to see more carbon this year. I don't know that. I think that that's a good thing. I,
Andrew I, I, I think I agree with you.
Everett I'm incredibly skeptical of carbon as a everyday watch material. I think it's got its appeal. There's a niche. I can understand why it might be valuable, but I think that that appeal is limited. And I also think the utility of it is pretty limited. So, um, Yeah, this watch is for somebody. And I really like it. If this was a normal rotating bezel, even if it was a friction bezel, Andrew.
Andrew I wonder if the interaction of steel with carbon is problematic and doing a carbon bezel was maybe prohibitive. Yeah, yeah, maybe you know seems like you could just drop a steel or aluminum channel in there match the bezel And I mean, I'm not like I'm not a designer by any means.
Everett I'm an engineer. I'm with you though I'm with you.
Andrew Yes, but if I if that's the problem that I have to solve I'm not gonna be like, oh fuck it. We're just not gonna do it. I'm like no we just drop in a House for it a hundred. Yes, Andrew. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes a hundred times. Yes Yes, I wonder if that would That shouldn't have any kind of impact on your water resistance.
Everett I mean, maybe, maybe, I don't know. I wouldn't think so either because that's going to, it's going to exist. It's not going to affect the mate between the crystal and the case. That's still going to be crystal gasket carbon. And then the sleeve is going to exist outside of that.
Andrew Did we just, should we not be recording this and publishing it? Like, are we spilling? patent right now?
Everett No, I don't think, no, this has been done before. This is, we're, we have not invented it.
Andrew No, we're inventing it right now. It's a very, trademarked. Yes. This is, this is some patented shit. Uh, and we will sue you for IP. Um, and other news, uh, unknown podcasts solves the world's problems. So carbon interaction. Sue's doctor. Uh, what's next, Andrew? Let's do it. What's next? Oh, next up, Siegel. Siegel did a really big thing. Let's do it. They've introduced a 3500 split second mechanical chronograph, and allow me to just like, it has all the things. It's a fully functioning, so it's 1961, which is a modified ST-19 base movement, Additional cam-operated split-second mechanism with hand-wound chronograph base, column wheel, horizontal clutch, 21.6 vibrations an hour, 45-hour power reserve, Seagull of all the brands in the world is not who I would have expected us like who I would have expected to just drop a Haute horology Movement on the market and be like, oh by the way, it's really affordable, too This is the kind of shit that I would expect out of Christopher Ward Right like we did a really cool thing We just took this thing that you can't get for under 10 grand and we made it, you know under five But seagull first to the game with this and it looks like a seagull watch nothing super There's nothing offensive or exceptionally attractive about it It's an attractive seagull chronograph. And I think that's all that needs to be said about that The impressive part is dropping a split-second chronograph for 3,500 bucks. Yeah, and I'm wondering you know five years ago seagull had a lot of quality control issues and that has subsided quite a bit, uh, and is, I mean, to such a degree that seagulls become a fairly reliable movement in a lot of small brand productions, um, to, to drop something like this is crazy and awesome.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious. I'm curious about the architecture here. I, I would be shocked. if this is new architecture, right?
Andrew It says a modified ST-19 movement, which is a Venus 175 clone, and then they dropped more mechanisms on top of it.
Everett I'm guessing even the module is not original. Perhaps not. It's only 12 millimeters thick. Yeah, well, yeah, no, I mean, Siegel does a great job with the dimensions and everything, you know, they're taking existing architectures and making them at a really high level. I have no doubt that this is a fantastic, and actually, I think this makes sense in the context of them limiting availability, the ST 19 movements, right. You know, it seems to me that Tianjin's like trying to push, trying to push their manufacturer caliber, which it makes a ton of sense, right? You, you, they've, they've spent all this time sort of relegated. You know, I can remember when we're talking about the HKED watches and like, this is nuts, right? This is a, a column wheel, Mechanical chronograph for and I don't remember what I paid for my 1963 under 500 bucks. I think I think like 300 bucks. I can't remember what, you know, Ed, if you still listen, thanks for that watch, I still wear it all the time. And so I remember being shocked at how cheap it was, right? This watch is so cheap.
Andrew I think the retail- The Ed 63 Cream Panda right now is 290 bucks.
Everett Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking down in that range, right? Brand new. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I think it was like 275 is what I paid for him if I remember right. So, you know, you figure that movement was probably, Ed's probably paying at the time 25 or, you know, 25 to 40 bucks for those movements. And it's beautiful. It's a stunning movement. Yeah, it really is. It's a stunning movement, right? The only problem with it is that it says Segal
Unknown Mm-hmm.
Everett And so I think if Siegel can Can change that well all of a sudden you've got a brand man if you can sell me a $3,000 Retropon Peace be to you.
Andrew Yeah, so they're only making 500 of these 500 yeah 500 of these 3,500 bucks like you're just not gonna find this Mechanism for anywhere near that. Yeah new or used.
Everett Yeah, I mean The problem that they have and that they'll continue to have is Like it's a lot of money to pay for a seagull
Andrew It is, but this is, this is the kind of stuff that they need to be able to get to legitimize themselves as a manufacturer and as a, as an, a producer. Right. Yeah.
Everett And you're right. Andrew, the watches so fucking boring, but I, I kind of want that.
Andrew You know, what's exciting about this is what's is what's in it.
Everett Have you ever used a Retropon or a split second? I haven't either. I'm curious, it's got the 10 o'clock pusher. I guess I don't know.
Andrew I think each pusher starts and then your four o'clock pusher restarts or maybe matches them. I'm not sure. And I'm not sure if it's uniform across every single one, how their pushers interact with the timekeeping mechanisms.
Everett There are three pushers, a classic layout for a Retropon, with the two standard pushers at two and four, and the Retropon pusher at 10 o'clock. But it doesn't give me any clarity on how that works. Anyway, I'm sure there's videos, but this is neat. This is undoubtedly neat. I do wish it was a cooler watch. Hopefully, hopefully, what Seagull's doing is they're marketing their new movement. because I'm not gonna pay this amount of money for a Seagull branded watch, but I'll pay half again that for something doper with a Seagull split seconds movement in it, right? Does that make sense, what I'm saying?
Andrew Yeah, I'm stepping in what you're putting down.
Everett If this is a, I'm just poor at Hemplo, a studio underdog split second chronograph at 4,500, I'm thinking about it, right? And I realize as I say that, that that's not the right brand fit, but as we know, Richard's got a relationship with Siegel at this point, so it's plausible. I'm thinking about that watch.
Andrew I wonder if that was part of the deal.
Everett Maybe, maybe that's, maybe I just broke the news. I don't have any insider information on this.
Andrew So we're just, we're just pipe dream and hopes here. Yeah. If this, if this happens, sorry, if we just, if we just blew up your spot, Richard, there's no, we're just that insightful.
Everett I'm not under embargo cause I actually don't have information, but I mean, that's, that's a realistic, that's a plausible outcome. And that makes a lot of sense to me. Right.
Andrew I think you're right. The studio underdog probably isn't the right brand to talk about it, but like perhaps Sarah,
Everett Yes, Andrew, that's it. Serica, that's perfect. That's perfect. And probably about 15 other brands, but Serica would be perfect. Perfect. Yeah. This is cool, man. Yeah, this is cool. I've got one more watch. Andrew, have we ever talked about Abel? No. Is that how you're going to say that?
Andrew That's the only way I would even... Abel?
Everett Abel?
Andrew I don't think he makes an a sound ever. Except in all of Spanish. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. Where's Apple from? They're Swiss. So, so it's probably said like Estelle.
Everett Apple is a fascinating brand. Okay. Listen, a bell. I'm just going to say a bell that feels better to me.
Andrew Okay able Just try a different way every time. Yeah, and and finally one rolls nicely just stick with it.
Everett So evil is a Fascinating brand. Okay, so this is a brand that goes back to the early 20th century, 1911, I believe. And they are perhaps best known, best known today for having glided through the courts crisis. So they are this heritage Swiss brand was sort of a jewelry-forward emphasis, definitely making sporty watches, but with that sort of Cartier feel, that jeweler feel. And then in the 70s, they really just sort of glide. They introduce Quartz, they start using Quartz to the extent necessary to go through the 70s and 80s. However, they continue to push mechanical watches. They buy out, I think at some point, all El Primero stock existing in the world. They make watches for and with Cartier. They're just this brand that kind of like, drifted and survived and made it. I recognize their watches, right? I pull this watch up and I'm like, yep, I know that watch. They've got this sort of wave bracelet. They got four screws in the dial. I mean, you're gonna see this and be like, yeah, I know that watch. I maybe don't particularly love the top down on this thing. And maybe that's why we all kind of know what this brand is, but we're not talking about it. But the more I look at this, I'm like, why aren't we talking about this watch? Because maybe it's just a moment in time. Maybe this is just a moment in time, but this watch came in my feed today. So the news here is that Able released their Sport Classic in a 37 millimeter version. So I think previously they've had 40 and like 32, 33, some sort of like, this is women's sizing. They released this in what their marketing materials are referring to as a unisex 37 millimeter. It's 8.63 millimeters in an automatic watch. It's 50 meters of water resistance, but fuck off. It's 8.63 millimeters.
Andrew This is like... And it's only 3,000 bucks.
Unknown And it's 3,000 bucks. And the finishing on these things is nuts.
Everett It's nuts.
Unknown This is so freaking cool.
Andrew It is. I think.
Unknown Do you like this less than a streamliner? I don't. I don't like it less than a streamliner.
Andrew I don't think I do either. I don't, I don't like the double negative that we're using.
Everett I like this the same.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett And it's not a Moser. Okay. It's not a Moser. Right. I get it. I get it. But it's still this historic. I mean, yeah. Okay.
Andrew That's enough of that. This bracelet attachment technology. It's fascinating.
Unknown The whole thing. Yeah.
Andrew The break. Yeah. Yes. Andrew. It's a hooded integrated and like, and yet not. Yeah. And it screws in.
Everett Yes.
Andrew Yes. From the underside. Yes. So it's, it's like a, an integrated, I've never seen the likes, you know, and this is just this watch.
Everett Like what, why doesn't anybody ever talk about this fucking watch? Hey, I want something really cool for under $3,000. Get an eyeball.
Andrew Yeah, what do you need it to do?
Everett Get an eyeball. Just go get one.
Unknown And a 37 millimeters? Shit, this thing is... Yeah, this is money.
Andrew Okay, we have to move on because I have one last watch to talk about.
Unknown We're only at 51 minutes, are you in a hurry? Are we trying to lock it down in an hour? Do we have time constraints?
Andrew We're gonna spend some time on this watch because you're gonna... You're going to start gushing here in a minute.
Everett So I'm gushing already.
Andrew And we're just going to continue with the gush.
Everett My new favorite brand.
Andrew New favorite brand every week. Uh. So there is a new watch out by a brand called P.S. Orology, which is the new project of Peter Speak Speak, maybe. I'm not really sure how to. S-P-E-A-K-E speak spake. I think it's speak speak. Okay He's been in the industry for some time. He was working as one of the namesakes of space speak Marin and As also famous as being the naked watchmaker Which is not only fans page It's a watch education page where he takes apart watches and talks about them and books and all kinds of other stuff about it and
Everett So in if you don't know the naked watchmaker, go, go, go watch.
Andrew And it's not on. It's not an only fans. It's not a naked guy. Be super clear about that. Just think you're not getting Rick rolled here. So 2022 this brand comes out. Um, we have two, three new releases. There is the, Oh boy, can I find the names here real quick? Um, the Suba blue and the Suba dong song. Uh, and these are absolutely stunning. The, On initial look, you're like, oh, it's kind of weird and interesting. And then as you start looking at all of the design languages and inspirations that compile to make this watch, it's mesmerizing. So let me just read to you about the dial. Hang on. So the blue, the suba blue, sapphire crystal dial, anodized metal frame, lacquered layer on the underside. What? Let's just do some of the coolest, any one of those components would be one of the coolest things ever. Why not just combine them all together? The shapes on this have this kind of deco, modern and post-modern collision, None of it makes sense independently. When I'm describing these, it sounds like a train wreck. I feel like I'm describing the Cartier crash. Just imagine all this shit smashed together. Because the SUBA case is designed after the SUBA, which is the hand guard on a sword. Like, none of it should go together, and yet. And yet. It is gorgeous. Kind of a scaled, scalloped wave bracelet on this thing. And I'm getting through this, and I'm like, man, this thing is good. Where's the, oh, what? This dongsan, same case, is absolutely insane. hand-finished gold-crafted dial that's, it seems impossible. These really tight geometric shapes, super fine lines, are just gorgeous. It's all raised imagery in this kind of concentric circle on the dial that is both really symmetrical but doesn't feel like it. It is nuts. So there's two colors in this. There's a blue background and a slate background. Oh, oh, and by the way. Voucher 5401 microrotor movement.
Everett Yeah. And I actually, I had to look up this movement because I didn't know it, but it's a whole horology movement. Beautiful, stunning tungsten microrotor, just an absolutely fantastic movement. 2.6 millimeters thick the movement is.
Andrew Yeah, it's the the watch itself is 8.9 thick. It's thicker than they have. Oh, I'm just gonna say it is it is It's just like one of the most stunning mesmerizing pair of releases I've ever seen Yeah for the blue 19,500 Swiss francs and I this, the dongsan is, uh, if you got to ask, you can't afford it.
Everett It's how much is it? Yeah. They, they, they haven't, they haven't announced a price.
Andrew Okay. Then I don't think that they will.
Everett Yeah. So what are, what are they called? What's, what's the first model called? The blue. Okay. Okay. You know, Andrew, I gave you some shit earlier because you said kind of gives me Ming vibes and I gave you shit because I was like, last time you said that I gave you shit. Someone brought in to say that. agreed with me, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you said that about this, and I started to give you shit, but the more I look at this, the more I agree with you.
Andrew There's something about the circle, like the angles and the circles, right? Because those Ming dials are like, the way they play with shapes and the way those shapes interact, it evokes just a thing, right? I see it here, yeah. And it's very much the same here. I don't remember the other watch that we talked about, but I had that same like, These the geometry of this dial like doesn't and does really make sense to me all at once. Yeah.
Everett Yeah, these are cool, man You know, these are obviously very expensive watches Bracelet on this kind of a wave bracelet, which I think is stunning These are really neat they're really neat they're expensive watches this gold Fist nuts. Yeah Yeah It is. Yeah, they're like So these are from the Dongsan culture, which is, I guess, a culture that ran from like 1000 BC to early in the Common Era. But it gives me... sort of Central American vibes the there there are like hieroglyphs or perhaps just Animal drawings that I assume are from that Vietnamese culture.
Andrew It does have kind of like Central American sort of Mayan or Incan. Yeah, I think it's those like those elongated Lines on it. Yeah Really pretty cool.
Everett This is a really just gorgeous pretty gorgeous watch. Yeah, I'd love to see one in person someday You know never will but I think I'd be really cool to maybe so they've got these at Martin pulleys Just go bop in say what up.
Andrew I Don't think I get past the guards. Maybe you never know Look at me I'd let you But you're not the guard
Everett I'll let you touch my dog, son. I was waiting for it.
Andrew I know.
Everett I was patient. I'm sure I figured out what the joke was about two and a half minutes ago, but I was like, I was like, don't force it.
Andrew I didn't hit it. Hit you right. As soon as he found out that that watch was made by the naked watchmaker. Like that joke, I was laughing at that joke while I was reading about this watch. I felt a little bad because this is like an actual culture, but, uh,
Everett But homophones, man, once it came to me, once it came to me, then I was like, OK, wait for the moment. And then you presented. Andrew I don't have any more watches.
Andrew I need to talk about me I do want to mention one thing Tag Heuer slipped in and is now the official timekeeper of Formula one again having taken it from Having taken Rolex there you go Tags back and that's what their marketing says we are back.
Everett Yeah, we're back. Oh We're back. No, Rolex. I think, I think, I think Rolex is having a bit of a downturn.
Andrew Uh, they announced their prices. Uh, their price sheet came out. Uh, they're stabilized, man. We're seeing, uh, less than, you know, about 5% across the board on average.
Everett Well, and aftermarket prices are coming down too. Yeah.
Andrew Which was another prediction for 2025 is that we'd see stability in Rolex pricing. So, uh, so far I'm on fire. Um, and we're only, we're only one weekend.
Everett Other things, what do you got?
Andrew I have another thing that I didn't. I kind of forgot about and then came back to it this week. So I started a couple maybe months ago a show called Silo on Apple TV. And I was like scrolling through tiles and like, man, I don't feel like watching the the trailer that it was playing kind of seemed interesting. But the the tag, like not the tagline, but the little short description didn't really seem that interesting. And I was like, OK, whatever.
Everett It just didn't tickle your fancy.
Andrew No, but I was like, eh, whatever. I'm doing exactly nothing else. I'll start it.
Everett I did watch the first season, by the way. We talked earlier and I said I didn't. I went back and looked and I was like, oh no, we definitely watched that.
Andrew So this show is... It's not often that you get a show of like an entirely new but still familiar premise, right? I likened this when I was describing it to like Westworld where like, Oh, this, like this doesn't feel revolutionary, but it kind of is. There is no other show like this, you know, not as, as shattering of a premise as say squid game, but kind of in that like, Oh, this is totally new and different. Yeah. Uh, I've never seen anything like this. Uh, but it's like, it's, you know, this, a post apocalyptic world that's, you know, kind of has like with a perfectly plausible post apocalyptic circumstance. Yeah. And, and, you know, familiar, you know, fallout is, is similar, but not the same even remotely. Um, so I started watching this and was just enthralled. It is fantastic. All but one actor is really great in it. The story is really well written. And it's one of those shows that every time you think you're about to figure it out, they're like, nah, fuck you. Gotcha. You didn't figure it out. You're not going to figure me out, man. Um, it just, it, it does not crazy twists. It's twists that make sense and and they make sense because of the way they progress the story and when they reveal these twists to you, like as soon as you're like, Oh, what, this is what's going on. And they give you these red herrings and it's fantastic. It's, it's a really, really well written, really well acted barring one, uh, person. Common is not great in it. I don't, know that he's ever been that good in anything I've ever seen him and he's just out of place. Yeah, he just is really out of place in it. And I don't know why. Yeah, but it's fantastic. There's like a couple actors that you recognize and just they play so well in it. Yeah, this is a fantastic show and I highly recommend we're not. I don't know.
Everett I really hate just just I'm just going to before you move on. I really hate common as an actor. I like his music. Think he's fantastic. I think he's the most wooden painful actor that I could like think of yeah, and I the character they wrote for him I think
Andrew There were there were obviously people who could have played it better But that this is me it works. It works best role. I've seen him in for cuz he's supposed to be wooden Yeah, but it's he's still like to wouldn't even for a wooden character. Like we want you to be personality lists Okay My god have a little bit more personality than that man. Come on I don't know if the full second season is out.
Everett I don't want to look ahead and I think Apple releases they they release On a schedule.
Andrew So yeah, if it's not out, it's not out So yeah, so we're that's why I stopped watching it because I got to like episode 2 of season 2. I was like, well damn and then just forgot about it and came, you know, I saw I was like, oh no episodes and and started them again yesterday and this is It's a really good show if you liked Westworld if you like that kind of ilk of Post-apocalyptic feel but everything kind of makes sense. Yeah This is this is a good one.
Everett Hey And I'm not gonna spoil anything, but the end is really really good. The end of season one is really really good. Yeah, it's like It's like you said they kind of rolled out they roll out the twists and the end is just it's like, ah Okay, okay, I'm here for this and you start to be like, oh I figured it out again Nah, no, you didn't know you did good try.
Andrew You're not gonna keep up cuz I pride myself and being able to like figure it out. I
Everett You know, that's funny. My wife, my wife, Kim is, she's big on that too. She tries to figure things out. And I am very deliberate about not, about going with the flow. When I watch shows, I really just get in the pocket and, and take it as it comes. Like I'm deliberate about it. Like, Kim will ask questions, what do you think about this?
Andrew Oh, I don't do that, I just sit and stew.
Everett Don't, don't, they're gonna tell us. And I wanna learn, I wanna learn what I'm supposed to learn.
Andrew Oh, I've never asked the question out loud.
Everett I don't mind the foreshadowing. Like, if I get a foreshadow and it kinda like, makes my head turn, I don't mind that at all. But I want that organically. I want the director to tell me the story his way.
Andrew Yes, I tell Mark that all the time. He like asks questions when we're watching something together. And I'm like, dude, we're both watching this for the first time. And two, they'll give you the answers when they want you to have the answers. Like just chill, just enjoy.
Everett I think it's hard as a kid. I think it's, I've recognized this from my own children because we're starting to watch more and more sort of adult movies with the kids. I watched Shawshank with the kids, by the way. Oh, uh, yours, Mark's still too young. He wouldn't, I don't think he'd get it. He's still too young, but, but not by much. So, you know, we've got at home 10, 11 and 12 years old. And I was like, I was like, yeah, we're, we're ready.
Andrew You're in the zone for sure.
Everett Yeah. And They loved it. They loved it.
Unknown Beautiful.
Everett Yeah, beautiful. So that's not my other thing, although it very well could be. My other thing is another movie I watched, second viewing, with my daughter, my oldest, because I thought she would love it. Spoiler alert, she didn't like it. But I watched Bong Joon-ho's Parasite for the second time. So I watched it back when it came out, I want to say 2020. And I was gonna ask you, I was like, have I talked about Parasite on the show? And then I was like, no, I'm not gonna ask him because here we are six plus years in, it doesn't matter if I talked about it because what I wanna talk about it today is my experience watching it. again, now, for the second time. It was a movie that came out, I believe it won the Academy Award for Best Picture. Correct me if I'm wrong, Andrew.
Andrew I'm looking right now.
Everett And I watched it and I thought, yeah, yeah, it's really good.
Andrew Palm Door at Cannes. It was nominated for Best Director, Best Screenplay, Best Foreign Language Film. I think it won Best Picture.
Everett At the Oscars? No, am I?
Andrew I'm looking. I could be wrong. Give me a second.
Everett It's been a long time.
Andrew Anywho.
Everett sat down, watched this movie with Betty and I was struck by how good this movie is. And it's good. So first, the story at a purely like casual level, the story is really good, right? The story is entertaining. The acting is terrific. But on a second viewing, I was struck by just how incredible the... It did win Best Picture. The screenplay, the art, the camera work, the colors, the set designs. the interactions between the characters. I mean, I do think, Andrew, it is one of the most meticulous movies I've ever seen. You know, there's this thing, as you're watching it, the camera is never static. The camera is always advancing. And what it does is it sort of creates this tension within a scene. So as there's dialogue or whatever, or you're in a set, the camera's advancing and getting tighter and increasingly more uncomfortable. The whole entire movie, is set this way and there's this always like building tension every even these not tense scenes you slowly get closer and closer and tighter and more intimate. It's fantastic if you haven't watched Parasite. Go watch it. It won best picture at the Academy Awards and it's in fucking Korean, okay? That's incredible. So you gotta know it's good. But also, if you've already watched it, go watch it again and pay attention to it. It is absolutely delightful.
Andrew It's got a 99% on Rotten with almost 500 reviews.
Everett Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those rare movies that marries like highly technical artistry in terms of the filmmaking aspects, the technical aspects of making a movie with scenes and sets and dialogue that is not overwrought. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's both palatable and artistic in a way that you don't often see, right? It really marries this incredibly technical, tight screenplay with a story that is really functional and easy and practical and easy to watch. I, you know, it's not my favorite movie, but it may be the best movie I've ever seen. It's not my favorite.
Andrew It's in, it's made a couple top hundred of all time lists. It had such an impact in Korea that they are restoring the set and pouring a ton of $150 million into a film culture complex, like kind of based around it where they're gonna restore the set and use it as a, Tourism attraction.
Everett Does it say which that is that the rich house?
Andrew It's gotta be The set where it was produced Well, maybe I don't know. It's like going aqua special shooting studio. So I see I see Yeah, it's it. I I don't know that I've seen this what you haven't seen Paris.
Everett I don't know that I have Oh my gosh, it's so good Andrew Um, it's so good.
Unknown Where did you watch it on?
Everett Uh, you, you gotta rent it. Or if you have cinema, if you have a max, not Cinemax, just max HBO. What about Skinamax? If you, it's not on Skinamax, it's on the other max. Big pass. Or you can rent it for four bucks. I'm, I might have max, I don't know. Four bucks. Okay. And UHD.
Unknown That's all I got, man. Nice.
Andrew Good riddance. And we'll talk to you in a couple of weeks.
Everett Hey, uh, hey, you guys, thanks. Thanks for once again, for joining us for this episode of 1420, the Watch Clicker podcast. Uh, do, do us a favor. Just go to the website. It's watchclicker.com. That's where we post articles, reviews, uh, written words primarily, but also every episode of this podcast. If you wanna follow us on social media, you can do that on Instagram, at watch clicker or at 40 and 20 underscore watch clicker. Sometimes we tell you what we're doing in the podcast or on the website. If you wanna support us, and oh boy, we hope you do. Look, it takes money to keep it going. The folks that support us on Patreon are the actual reason that we continue to make this show every week. So if you like it, check us out on Patreon. And don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday, but it's actually the Tuesday after next. Next Tuesday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, and other things we like. Buh-bye.