Episode 33 - Marking the Occasion

Published on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 19:06:00 -0700

Synopsis

The hosts Andrew and Everett discuss different watches suitable for various milestone occasions in life, such as birth, graduation, wedding, first child, and divorce. They provide recommendations for watches to wear or gift for these events, ranging from affordable options like Timex and Casio to more expensive brands like Citizen and Laurier. They also touch upon other topics like Everett's excessive pencil collection and Andrew's experience with a new Netflix show called Bad Blood.

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Andrew	Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is the 40 in 20 podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett	I'm doing well. I am still relishing all the joys of the weekend. I think I did less work this weekend than you did, so I'm feeling very relaxed. Although I did, I was active. So I'm also feeling tired, physically tired. So it's that nice physically tired, but mentally caught up. Yeah, I'm good.
Andrew	I'm not there. We had a very busy weekend in Kidless, which was terrific. We took, uh, took the boy up to Sam's parents' house for a sleepover last night and they wore his little ass out. They took him to the Rose Festival. They walked the whole waterfront and he's little, he's four, right? He's a little dude. Uh, he walked the whole waterfront. And then back up the hill to their condo building. And then today they took him to the zoo. He walked his little ass around the zoo all day. And then they have some friends who live up the hill from the zoo, like probably a mile. And he walked- Further up Washington Park. Yeah, like further up, up, up, up, up. He walked his little ass with them all the way up to their house and played some more. And then they brought me back a very tired little kid and it was terrific. So in that interim, we had two, back to back meals out without a kid which was unusual we haven't done that like short of vacation haven't had that in a long time yes where'd you eat we ate at uh viking braggart which is a mead and viking food i don't know they have it's a meadery braggart is like a honey is like a honey brewed mead but they have just regular beer too right i didn't have any i had i had honey Alcohol, uh, it was good. I I wasn't sure. Yeah, I dig it Uh, i've had mead before and this was unlike the mead that i've had before the meads that i've had in the past were kind of thick uh Like thicky thick. Yeah, like I could I I knew I was drinking Not beer, uh, and I wasn't really down with it. But these were it was like drinking beer. It was delightful had a really good pizza Yeah, they've got they've got good pizza.
Everett	Really really good pizza It's that thin-crusted oven, you know, fire oven pizza.
Andrew	Yeah, and it had the right crisp. Like, as I'm eating it, Sam was like, are you okay? And I was like, I think this could be the best pizza in town. Like, the crust is perfect. Yeah, it's great. And then we went to Taco Boar today, which is just a local taco place. It has bomb tacos. Problem is, they're like four bucks a piece, and I can eat like 15 tacos, so you run into a little bit of an issue with that. They had this habanero sauce out. It was called habanero salsa. Caution, very hot.
Everett	It was good. It's good. Yeah, it's spicy.
Andrew	It was good. Uh, it was actually really reminiscent of yellow bird. Uh, not as sweet as the yellow bird habanero, but really good. Really good. Yeah. Really good. Had a Mako shark taco, uh, two carnitas tacos.
Everett	Were you wearing your Mako?
Andrew	I was. Yeah, I was. I like it. The carnitas are the truth. Yeah. They are delicious. The carne asada was also good, but nothing stood up against the carnitas.
Everett	You know, you didn't have it. You didn't have the bean and cheese taco, but their bean and cheese taco is a serious contender for best taco ever made. And you know me, I like meat. I like the meat.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	Give me all the meat. All in and around your mouth. That's right. That's right. Whack me in the face with it. But. Someone talked me into getting that bean and cheese taco because it's just sort of, you know, and it's not cheap. It's like three bucks for a bean and cheese taco. And I was like, come on guys, that sounds ridiculous. Oh my gosh.
Andrew	Fantastic. But you go to Burrito Boy, you can get a $3 bean and cheese burrito, which is far superior. Not having had that bean and cheese taco, I can tell you that bean and cheese at Burrito Boy is... You're wrong.
Everett	Full stop. You need to go get it. Just go get it. I'm telling you, go get it. Go get it. We'll meet there for lunch this week and you'll get one. Maybe I'll go tonight. Right. It's out of this world good. I mean, mind-blowing good. So, if you're ever in Eugene, first, give us a call. We'll go get some, uh, we'll go get some Sonny's Burgers, um, and... Then some tacos. Then we'll go to Taco Four. Yeah. So, I don't remember, uh, what the names of the places are. Grimaldi's is one of them, but there are two... Grimaldi's and, um...
Andrew	Ooh, I can't think of it either, but I know exactly what we're talking about.
Everett	There's two New York pizza places that are regularly thrown around as the best. I think that there's probably more than that, but my sort of research on the topic said these two places, these are the contenders for best pizzas in New York, you know, New York City, which is to say, I think probably the, the five boroughs as it were. Uh, when the first time Kim and I went to New York, we, I was like, well, we got to try both of these places while we're here. So let's just go to one of them. And I think we went to Grimaldi's first and we ate pizza and then her, her cousin text message. And he was like, where are you guys at? And we're like, we're Grimaldi's. And he's like, I'll be down there in a second. And then he comes down, we, we order another pizza. We eat two pizzas. And he's like, you know, you really got to try the other one. We're like, we're headed there sometime this weekend. He's like, let's get a cab and go now. And so he just shot across town. Had more pizza. It was a fantastic trip. That's the best night I can imagine. Right. So, so if you come down, we'll do, we'll do Sonny's. We'll do Taco War. Just give us a call. I mean, seriously, you guys, if you ever want to come on down, we'll take you out. We'll host.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	It'll be fun. It'll be a blast. Um, so yeah. Yeah. Taco War. That's a great day. Yeah.
Andrew	And it's a great day. I smoked a pork shoulder today, which also turned out terrific. Did you get high? No.
Everett	Okay. No, I don't know.
Andrew	Why would you smoke it? Well, I mean, you just need to try it. You got to know, right? Like you got to experiment with things to know. Um, so I used, uh, a new electric smoker that I got. Nice. And it was awesome. I've done a lot of smoking over, over wood. Problem is you got to tend that fire. You don't get to walk away from it. Yeah, that's right. I went to the grocery store and I went to lunch while this thing was just in the locker, just doing its thing. And was there no chips? Yeah, no chips. Chips are in a little pan right on top of the... This is bigger than like a little chief or something though, right? Yeah, much like double the size. Okay. Yeah. So just, yeah, they're sitting there on top of the heating coil and just smoldering away.
Everett	Is it still smoking?
Andrew	No, it's done. I ate some. Nice. And it's good. Delicious. It could do with a little bit more smoke, but that's just me getting used to the new smoker. Turned out very good. Wunderbar. Yeah.
Everett	Well, well, great. I mean, I, like I said, I was, I think a little less productive than you were, but it sounds like maybe I also had a little less fun than you did, but.
Andrew	Maybe.
Everett	Yeah. We had a good weekend. I mean, we had a, a kid's baseball game. We had a piano recital, man, piano recital. That's something I never thought I'd do. Piano recital. Wow. Why would you not? You have kids. Well, I know. I mean, it's just something that you don't think about. Like here I am at this recital where my kids playing piano. Crazy. It was cool. Nice. So before we get into it this week, I think we should talk a little bit about our, uh, our audio issues last week. We had some audio issues. Oh gosh. Okay guys. So if you listened last week, you may have noticed some clicking popping towards the end of the episode, or I think really the last half of the episode, we're having some audio issues. Um, I, I think that we can attribute it to. In part, just not careful use of cell phones or whatever while we're recording. We're using digital audio, you know, USB microphones into a computer, which is problematic in a number of ways. But we are in the hunt, in the search right now for some analog recording equipment, dynamic microphones, a mixing board and a digital recorder. So nothing happening on the computer. So a compact recording table, fully function, and analog recording or digital recording of analog stuff. We think that that's going to address some of the stuff because what you guys don't know is that that episode was published because, well for a number of reasons, primarily because I was editing on Wednesday night before we published Thursday morning. What you don't know is that's not the first time that's happened. I mean, that's happened, I think, to us five or six times probably at this point where we recorded. Best case scenario, we stop mid episode for a pee break, for a potty break, come back in, just check to make sure our levels are good and everything, and then find we've been having this audio distortion. So we, you know, unplug everything, re-plug stuff in. But sometimes, like last week, we didn't have a single stop the whole time. So we recorded straight through, we didn't listen, and then we've got 45 minutes of this clicking audio, which, which is really terrible. And we apologize to the extent that you were listening and it's hard to listen to. I know when I'm editing it, it's hard for me to listen to, you know, so apologies. We are working on it. The problem is we don't make any money here. Um, and so this stuff costs money and it's not a little bit of money. It's, it's for us, it's a significant amount of money. You know, it's probably two watches, um, that we could buy. So instead we're going to, invest that money into, into some better, uh, recording equipment. So we can continue to do this in a way that's low stress. Um, give ourselves some versatility for, for having guests come on, because with our current setup, two microphones in a room to record with Skype, we run into a number of issues. So this is going to give us some ability to expand the way we record it. It's, you know, uh, some versatility with how we do things and it should fingers crossed. It should give us a higher level of audio and lower risk to have interference and things that are going to degrade the level of the recording.
Andrew	And just create a better listening experience for you. Right. The most important people in our lives.
Everett	You know, we've talked about starting a Patreon for our show in the past. I think we've talked about it online or on air. We're at the point where we're probably going to do that. because this is coming straight out of our pockets and really that's the kind of thing we would be using Patreon for so I would say maybe look out for that if this is something that you like and you want to participate in and you think you could give a buck or two bucks or whatever to a Patreon page to make that sort of thing happen because you want to listen and you want to keep getting these episodes Just maybe toss that around in your head. You know, I know we give to a couple of different podcasts because we want to support them. You know, we want to be, uh, the, the people who are doing that, that type of thing. I would never want anybody to feel like they had to, to listen and you will never have to, to listen. But to the extent that something you want to do, you want to support us so we can. do that kind of thing. Maybe keep your eye on, but in the meantime, we're going to get some better microphones. We're going to get a mixer. We're going to get these things that you kind of need to have when you grow up from baby podcast to adolescent podcast. Yeah. I think we're right about there.
Andrew	So we're nearing our tweens.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. So get to it. Let's do it. We've got a fun episode. We do. We've got a fun episode. We, this actually, uh, this episode was birthed, uh, by way of a Instagram suggestion. Instagram user, I think it's UROW sent me a message this week and said, I would love to hear about occasion watches or milestone watches. And I think that he was thinking gifts, but as Andrew and I were talking about it, we sort of expanded that idea. Both watches that you might buy someone for a milestone, And watches that you might wear to that milestone. Right. So occasion, you know, what am I going to do for this? What watch am I going to wear for this occasion? And so that's what we did. We've sort of coordinated a little bit on this episode more than we normally do. Certainly. Yeah. And we're going to blast through some watches. This isn't going to be our typical three chronographs for you to buy on Amazon. We'll probably have some links in the show notes to watches you might take a look at, but really, this is going to be more of a uh rattling off what to wear during this event what to buy this person for a gift at this event uh we're hopefully going to be a little tongue-in-cheek don't take this stuff too seriously guys but or do definitely do this is after all the definitive guide to milestone and occasion watches it is the definitive guide from the authorities on the matter right you want to kick us off let's do it we're going to start with we're going to start with what
Andrew	watches that you wear to an occasion. Okay, I like it. First occasion is the birth of a baby. Oh yeah. This is two subcategories and I think this is important. Category number one, you are cutting the cord. So I went with the Timex Ironman Transit TW5M19000JT. Now it's 40 and 20 which is terrific. It's 50 bucks and it has really good looking, really easy to change out strap, unlike a lot of these Ironmans. And what I was thinking, if you're cutting the cord, you're going to be getting into some, you're going to be getting into some shit. You're getting juicy. Yeah. No, you're certainly getting juicy. I know when, when mine was born, the doctor asked a whole bunch of times leading up to it, do you want to cut the cord? And I was adamant, no, nope. And then there in the delivery room, he said, are you sure you don't want to cut the cord? And I had to consider how I answered that question. Like, no, Do I say no? No, I'm not sure I don't want to cut the cord, or yes, I'm sure, or yeah, like, so I just said, no cord. Like, you manage this. You're the doctor. And this is a good looking sport watch. It is. It's fantastic. This is a perfect running watch. You wouldn't, you wouldn't feel bad about having it or wearing it.
Everett	Yeah, right, right. And you know what? I don't know what sort of water resistance this thing has, but it doesn't matter. It's got enough. It's got enough. Enough to cut the cord. That's right. And you're not going to feel bad about getting baby juice on it.
Andrew	No, because you can just hose it off or bleach it. It's an Iron Man.
Everett	Yeah, right.
Andrew	Just bleach it. Next up, you're not cutting the cord. I went a little bit different route for this one. I went with the, drop my notes.
Everett	Go ahead and put those anywhere.
Andrew	I went with the World Timer A500WGA-1DF and this is the kind of vintage looking gold World Timer. And the reason I went with that is because when I was in the delivery room for 19 hours, it would have been nice to not be trying to remember what time I got there, but just to set a stopwatch and start going. And who doesn't want to wear a gold watch in the delivery room?
Everett	I think that it's super fitting. It's like you're a doctor with a $30 watch on.
Andrew	Yeah, I think it runs at about 50. This looks like a doctor watch to me. But it does. It does. It looks like a doctor watch that he's been wearing probably the entire time he's been practicing medicine. And you wear it super loose, so it's just like sliding all up and down your forearm. Oh, definitely. All the extra lengths. I want it to lock really in place around my bicep.
Everett	Your bicep?
Andrew	You can get it all the way up there. Well, it's wider than my wrist. Okay.
Everett	Alright. Right? Yeah, I was thinking like, you know, the old school Datejust slide up and down the forearm.
Andrew	Yeah, you gotta give it the shake, not to wind the watch, but to get it on top of your wrist. Right.
Everett	Okay, what's next?
Andrew	Next up, we're going to a graduation. We're going to your graduation. Yeah. And I went with the Citizen Corso AV1040-08E. And it's coming in at 140 bucks. And I went with this watch because if you're going to your graduation, it's likely that in this day and age, you're probably not going to get a watch for graduation. But you're going to need to watch to look like a grown up because you're going to graduation, whether it be high school or college, you're probably going to be interviewing for some jobs, but you're also going to want to be wearing a watch like on normal days. And this is a watch that fits into those categories. I think very nicely. Uh, you don't have to put a, put a strap on it, but it's coming on a, on a metal or a, it can come on a bracelet, but the one that I have pulled up is coming on a leather strap and it's going to look good in any environment you're in. It's going to be a good classy look for whatever you choose to wear under your graduation gown, whether or not you have pants on.
Everett	Yeah. I like these. These are eco drives. They're classy as, as F. Um gonna last forever cheap, you know, they're 100 200 bucks citizen core So I think you they don't get a lot of play and uh, they don't get a lot of play in the watch talk But I think that's a great choice Next up for your kids graduation.
Andrew	I went with the orient maestro or maestro maestro Yeah, probably maestro. Whatever maestro maestro doesn't matter another another sort of underrated watch I really like these and a 40 and 20, uh, ringing in at 175 and this is a perfect dressable watch that you're going to wear in a whole bunch of environments that you're going to feel good about wearing a graduation. You're going to look put together and you're going to look like the proud parent of a graduating student.
Everett	I like that idea of the dressable watch. It's not necessarily dressy, but it's dressable. Yeah.
Andrew	And the dimensions are perfect on it. You can wear it wherever, whenever, just like Shakira.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's got a little bit of a Bauhaus feel, right? A little bit of a Bauhaus feel. And actually these are coming in, what, 150 bucks right now. That's great. Yeah, that's great. Simple, orient, automatic movement, sunburst style. I really like these.
Andrew	And they look good. They look good. Just like everything that comes out of the Orient collection. It just it looks good. I think these things are huge. No, it's 40 and 20. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah. I'm looking at it right there. I was I was actually torn between this and the Envoy with the open heart. Kind of that 830, nine o'clock.
Everett	I hate open heart watches. I don't hate it. It's just I don't want that.
Andrew	I thought it would. I thought it'd be nice. Just an extra little class. I just can't imagine wearing an open heart under anything but a suit.
Everett	Yeah, I can't imagine wearing an open heart even with a suit, but... Okay, what's next? Orient.
Andrew	Fuck.
Everett	Orient. Off.
Andrew	Orient Maestro. First fishing trip of the year. This is an important date for all of us. Yes. Yep. I actually know what I'm going to wear for my first fishing trip of the year, but go ahead. Me too. It's not going to be this, actually. It's the Timex Expedition Pioneer Combo 41 by 21, so you got good size, and it's 95 bucks, and it is a dope.
Everett	looking Timex. You know, all of the Expeditions are great, but this one in particular is the one that always catches my eye when I think, sometimes it'll just pop into my head like, I need to buy a Timex Expedition. And this one will pop into my head. Perfect fishing wash.
Andrew	It is. It's visible. You're not going to cry over losing it. And a digi. It is. And it's got a quick-release silicone strap.
Everett	Ooh.
Andrew	Which is a cool feature coming out of the box.
Everett	Under a hundred bucks. Yeah. Are these steel cases or are they chromed brass?
Andrew	Um, you know, I didn't look that far into it. I have, I've, I've looked at these watches enough that I should, I'm a little embarrassed to not know the answer to that.
Everett	I know they're, they're only 50 meters, which is want want, but I liked the, I liked the resin bezel. I bet these are not steel. Cause they, they always say if they're steel, they're like, this is made out of steel. Yeah.
Andrew	Especially coming out of Timex, but it's It's a good fishing watch. It's a watch that while you're wearing it, you're not scared you're going to hurt it. Yeah. And for your last fishing trip of the year. Last fishing trip. Womp womp. Doesn't exist. Fuck that. There is no last fishing trip of the year. Okay. I dig it. All right. Next up, we're going to a wedding of someone you like. Someone you like. This is important. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Little teaser for the next category. I'm going to Laurier Neptune. Laurier Neptune. Laurier. Laurier. We're coming in at $399 money.
Everett	We've talked about this watch a number of times. Not the Neptune.
Andrew	We've talked about the Falcon. That's right, the Neptune. And we've talked about the, because the Neptune is soon to release.
Everett	That is the dive bezel version, same case as the Falcon. Yeah, oh yeah, that's a great watch.
Andrew	And it is a very good looking watch. And coming in at a really reasonable price point of $400, you're going to be hard pressed to find comparable watches for this price point.
Everett	No, Laurier kills it on the price to value ratio.
Andrew	And they look. So good. I think they're on, I think they're still in their pre-order phase. I don't know for sure, but this is a good wear to a wedding watch. Good size, 40 and 20. 39 and 20. Great price. And it's a watch that you're going to wear again and again and again.
Everett	It's got that classic, uh, you know, I don't know if this is accurate or not, but when I see that bezel, I think of a Blancpain, um, I think sort of Blancpain like classic looking simple dive bezel.
Andrew	Very refined. It's going to look good in whatever you decide to wear. Good call. Next up, someone you don't like. Wedding to someone you don't like. The wedding of someone you don't like. I don't care if it's an asshole from high school. Maybe it's one of your significant other's friends that you're not a big fan of. But in any event, you have to be. You have to be. You're going to that wedding. Yeah, you have to be there. And you're really going to like this choice. It's the G-Shock DW5600MW-7. The white G-Shock. The 5600.
Everett	That's my, that's my baby.
Andrew	And I think that's a perfect, stick it to you, I'm at your wedding but I don't want to be here, watch to wear. Because no one's going to say shit about it. Right. But it's just going to be you standing out, stick it to the man. You should also wear dinosaur socks or something that's going to be a little, a little bit upsetting and try to get in as many pictures as possible. Good call. Wearing this and show off your dinosaur socks. Good call. And it's a hundred bucks.
Everett	You're going to wear the shit out of this watch. Yeah, I mean, I would wear this watch all the time anyway, so I'm with you.
Andrew	Next up, first date.
Everett	Ooh, first date watch. First date. Something we don't have to think about ever again, but we'll think about it anyway.
Andrew	Here it is. The Dan Henry 1964. Ooh, explain your thoughts. 38 millimeter chronograph. So you're wearing a classic looking chronograph, not a dress watch, nor is it a schlub watch. You're not wearing your, your OD green or or a flat dark earth or tan g-shock because you shouldn't do that on a first date. I don't care if you wear that watch 364 days a year. Don't wear it on that one day. Just don't wear that watch. That's not a good date watch. This is a perfect date watch. For one, it's going to look good on your wrist. For two, if the date's not going so well, you've got something to play with. You can time how long she's talking or you can play with your watch.
Everett	It's a good first move date is when she's like ask her a question and boop. Yeah. Talk about a power move, too. I'm really glad we don't have to date anymore.
Andrew	Me, too. I would be bad at this. Me, too. But, so that's my thinking on it.
Everett	Thoughts? Yeah, no, I like it. I mean, this is such a classy watch, dude. You know, I've got a watch that sort of fills this spot, so when people say, oh, that Dan Henry 1964, it is great. I love it. I think it's super attractive. It's not something I would buy because I have my HK Ed 1963. And so I think that these watch would fill, these watches would fill the same spot in my collection. So for me. You go the HK Ed. I'm first dating, I wear that HK Ed, but I think this is a great choice. Super affordable. These watches. 250 bucks.
Andrew	Mind-blowing affordable. Yeah. I actually, I was toying with the HK Ed or even the DL 63, but I wanted to tone it down a little bit. I wanted a watch that wasn't, that wasn't necessarily as dressy. And I think this isn't quite as refined as the, as the Ed. No, it's sportier for sure. Yeah, sportier and a watch that, you know, it's gonna say, hey, I'm here to play. I'm a party animal, sort of. Or if you suck, I'm just gonna time the stupid shit that comes out of your mouth.
Everett	You know, I need to get forearm tattoos.
Andrew	Yeah?
Everett	Every time I see pictures of folks with like classy watches and they have forearm tattoos, I think, all my watches would look better if I had forearm tattoos.
Andrew	We don't take many wrist shots because I have kind of embarrassingly little lady bone, not lady bone, bird bone wrists.
Everett	I just don't, I can't take wrist shots. I've really struggled with my ability to take wrist shots. I think it's a two person effort. I really do. And it's just a little weird, right? Hey, Andrew, come over. Let's take some wrist shots.
Andrew	That sounds sexy. My wife's out of town. Wrist shot day. Okay, next out. First time out post kid without your kids.
Everett	Ooh, yes. Okay, go ahead.
Andrew	I want Apple Watch.
Everett	Apple watch. Yeah. Yeah. Cause then you can get instant notifications.
Andrew	Phones aren't out. You can put a baby monitor on that motherfucker. You can enjoy some time together, but when every text that comes through, you can look at your wrist and make sure it's not the babysitter.
Everett	That's right.
Andrew	That's a great choice. Yeah. Or any smartwatch, but I actually like the way Apple watches look in the way of smartwatches. I think they're probably the most attractive smartwatch that I've come across.
Everett	Yeah. You know, I was talking to a guy who had a Samsung, I don't know, what are they? Gear? Nonsense. He had a Samsung smartwatch on and it was cool. The bezel sort of did things and he was playing with it because I was asking him about it. But, um, I was like, gosh, that's just not, it's just this giant planetoid of a watch. Yeah. No, I like the, if I was going to buy one, I'd buy the Apple watch.
Andrew	So next up is your first time, if your first date out with your significant other in a long time without your kids. Oh, here it is. It's the no watch. 24 hour CM2-3611. Wait, what is it? No watch? No watch. And no watch focuses on, I won't call them novelty watches because they're not novelty watches. They are 24 hour or reverse or offset 24, like 12 o'clock or in Hebrew or in Arabic.
Everett	This is the 24 hour, The 24 hour single hand reverse.
Andrew	Yes. And the reason I picked that watch is because if you're out on a date for the first time in a long time without your kids, it's best to lose track of time. Look at your watch and be like, I have no idea what fucking time it is. It's going the wrong way. It's, is it, nothing has changed.
Everett	But you're still wearing an attractive watch.
Andrew	Still wearing a good looking watch. No one's going to look at it and be like, dude, you're wearing a backwards watch. Some shit's fucked up here.
Everett	Um, cause as we know, no one looks at our fucking watches anyway.
Andrew	No. But that's why I went with. I went with a watch that you can look at and still lose track of time. I like that. Because you deserve it. I like that. Pay the babysitter extra or don't pay the babysitter extra. Leave them with your parents. Get it for free.
Everett	Yeah. Don't pay those babysitters any extra. No. Well, good. What's up next?
Andrew	That's it. That concludes my list of occasions that might come up in my life or not come up in my life, but some special occasions, some milestones, if you will, that you should consider what you're going to wear for.
Everett	And so the next phase of this is if you're going to buy a gift for someone for an occasion. Yeah. And these are equally well thought out, I think. But milestone watches, what to buy someone for that milestone. And so the first milestone most of us, first sort of adult milestone most of us go through is high school graduation. I've broken this down a little bit, right? Because I think it depends. I don't think you buy every high school graduate the same watch. I agree. You don't buy every... So, I broke this down into two categories. So one, going to college.
Andrew	Okay.
Everett	Casio MDV-106, our Marlin, our Casio Marlin Diver. It's 50 bucks, cheap as fuck. It looks good.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	It's simple quartz. It's probably close to indestructible. It's pretty close to indestructible. Waterproof, so beer's not gonna mess it up. It's, you know, you can put it, it's a strap monster. You can put it on a NATO, buy them a five pack of, of cheapest NATO straps, um, sent them on their way. Durable beer, easily disinfected. You can just drop that in like a disinfectant bowl at night. Um, I, I do have an alternate choice though, because that might not be special enough. So if you want to get some things a little bit more special, alternate citizen pro master, tough BN. 0211-50E. If you haven't seen these, that's the EcoDrive line, right? That's right. It's a Citizen EcoDrive ProMaster Tough. And these are monocoque cases. They're bulletproof. I mean, maybe not literally, but certainly figuratively. Same attributes. How much does it cost? $250.
Andrew	I won't try the test the bulletproof theory.
Everett	It's going to be a little bit more special, a little bit more expensive, maybe not special, but a little bit more expensive. So a little bit higher quality. probably just generally speaking and probably tougher too. So I think those are great choices. Now, if they're not going to go to college, I'm going to change it.
Andrew	I don't think we go with the, what's the watch we've talked about a handful of times that is geared at graduates.
Everett	Oh, the college click, the, the, the nomos. Yeah. The nomos on campus. Yep. Yeah. Don't do that. I mean, we're, we don't talk about that watch here anyway, cause it's out of our, it's sort of at the top end of our price range, but it's like, I just got my first job making shit loads of money. Not a college grad.
Andrew	I think if I just got my first job and you shit loads of money, I'd be buying a different watch, right?
Everett	Well, I don't know. I really liked that watch. I'm going to get one someday, but so no college. I'm not going to college, but I've just graduated high school. I think he got to get him a 5600 DW 5600. All the same attributes, but it's going to be a little bit more utilitarian. You're going to be able to use that when you're swinging that hammer or you're pulling that snake or you're on your gap year. Or you're on your, oh yeah, that's true. You're traveling maybe. Yeah, that's right. So, I think... Is pulling that snake? We don't have to stay there. We can move on from it. I'm not insulting anybody. Some people do. They pull snake. Oh, plumbing. Plumbing.
Andrew	Yes, that's right. I was like, what on earth are you talking about?
Everett	I mean, maybe that too. Maybe that too. There's money in that.
Andrew	Is there? Yeah, no, there is. I'm sure. Maybe a cam boy, cam girl. Yikes.
Everett	Okay, so, college graduation. I've also broken this down because you can't get every college graduate the same watch. No. So, first, college graduate with a liberal arts degree. I picked the Citizen EcoDrive Field Watch, the BM8180. So, what I like about this watch, your liberal arts degree is going to do absolutely nothing for you, so you need something with some versatility. Take it from us, we both have one. Right. You need something with a little versatility. So you can really, you know, dress it up a little bit. You can dress it down.
Andrew	Cause you're not going to be able to afford any more watches after you get that one as a gift. That's right. It's eco drive.
Everett	So you're not even gonna have to pay for batteries. You're not going to have to replace batteries. You're not going to have enough money to replace the batteries. So it's, it's going to be automatically wound by, by the sun. And, and you're, you're going to be getting a lot of sun when you're walking the sidewalks, looking for jobs. So engineering degree, Citizen Nighthawk. Ooh, yeah. That's right. It's, it's got all sorts of things that you can play with and, and a slide rule. And it's going to make you look really smart.
Andrew	It's gonna make you look way smarter, especially when you're timing your soft boiled eggs. That's right. That's right.
Everett	Art, architecture, or design degree. Timex Fairfield, 90 bucks, super cheap. You're going to have to replace the batteries in this one, but it's this Bauhaus watch. It looks sexy as fuck. And it's super cheap. It's going to cost you almost no money.
Andrew	And it's going to look good in any design firm that you're in. That's right. It's thoughtful. It's deliberate. I like it.
Everett	That's right. So, those are gifts for your college graduates. Now, next major life event, wedding. Your college grad is now getting married. So, what are we going to buy him? I think we're going to buy him a vintage dress watch. Ooh. A vintage dress watch. You don't think a birth year watch? No. Or it could be a birth year watch.
Andrew	It could be.
Everett	It could be both. It could be both. And there's some options here, right? You can get them a vintage Timex if they're just going to break it or, you know, you don't have a lot of money. You can get, if you got a lot of money, you got some cash hanging around, you can get them a vintage Datejust. How much do you love this person?
Andrew	I don't know if I love anyone vintage Datejust money though.
Everett	You know, but you might someday if this is, you know, Mark's getting married, you might. Nah, I don't love him that much. Sorry dude. is a vintage Omega Seamaster. And what you say is, this watch is like your new marriage. This watch is like your new marriage. It looks great. And it's a lot of fun today. But it's going to be a major pain in the ass. Some days it's not going to work at all. You're going to have to put time, money, and energy into keeping it running. Take that bitch into the shop with regularity. If you do nothing in 10 years, it will literally fucking fall apart. So spend the time, spend the energy, take care of it. So vintage dress watch for the wedding. And it's worth paying for to fix it. And it's worth paying for to fix it. That's right. That's right. If you keep, take care of it, it'll last you forever and be this beautiful thing that you can pass on to your children perhaps.
Andrew	And you're also going to show them, I love you this much. Right. So first child, what do you buy someone for? Sorry, you think it's a Seamaster and not a Speedmaster?
Everett	I think a vintage Omega Seamaster, yeah, that was my choice. Because it's a dress watch. I mean, Speedmaster works in the same way, right? It'll do some of the same things. So, next milestone. What are we going to get this, this, our young man, our young man, he's progressing through life. He's, he's graduated high school. He's graduated from college. He's been, he's gotten married. Now he's going to have his first baby. What do we get our guy for his first baby? And there's one choice and one choice only. Only a Citizen Mudmaster.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	It says on the case it's mud resistant.
Andrew	And you're going to have to, you're going to wonder when you walk into that room to meet the baby for the first time, you're going to look at his wrist and see what he opted for. Sport watch or world timer.
Everett	That's right. That's right. So you can get him that mud, that Mudmaster. It's mud resistant. Jeez. It's got five daily alarms. It's got a thermometer. You're going to need all of those things. All of those things are valuable. It's got on the outside of the case, a button to turn the tone on and off. So if the baby's sleeping. Super valuable. It's big. It's 56 millimeters and it's got, it's a super bright, so you'll always be able to see it.
Andrew	From across the hall. That's right. From down the, like from down the fucking block. A 56 millimeter watch with lume on it. Holy shit.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the one. First child you buy in that Mudmaster. Yeah. They're like 206 bucks. Okay. Okay. Thoughts?
Andrew	I'm, I'm into it. I think it's, I think it's perfectly appropriate and, and named aptly.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. Okay. So now, now he's buying his first house. Ooh. Now he's buying this first house. So this is a combo. Cause you can't, cause I couldn't find the watch that was perfect for this task. So it's a watch and bracelet combo. Ooh. You're going to buy him a Victorian X Inox. with one of those Leatherman multi-tool bracelets. That's right. So this thing is going to be a hammer. The watch itself is the hammer. That's right. It's going to be screwdrivers, allen keys, hex wrenches. Um, and when you buy this new house, everything is going to fucking break and you're going to need something reliable and the Inox will be that.
Andrew	Yeah. Although you are taking in buying the INOX with that multi-tool bracelet, you are robbing said recipient of the opportunity to buy a sexy ass tool belt and wear just that while doing home improvement projects.
Everett	No, you could do that. You could wear the tool belt and the INOX. Oh, and then you got it all. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Okay, so we've made it through Many of these first event. I think that there's one more milestone that we need to think about our young man for It's an important one divorce. Yeah, so young Bobby's getting divorced. What do we buy young Bobby for desserts? So I actually I actually brainstormed this one with my wife and and I've noticed that I've noticed that all of us us the watch guys like DOCSIS orange doxas. We fucking love them. We look at Instagram pictures and we're like, yeah, that's too expensive for me, but I fucking love it. Everybody loves an orange doxa. Yeah. The women folk don't like orange doxas. Ooh. The women folk don't like orange doxas. So my initial thought was if you're getting divorced, if you're getting a divorce, anything but a doxa, because you need something sexy. You're moving on to that next stage. and you need something sexy and i'll tell you unless you're trying to prompt the divorce well that's right if you don't like her then you buy the orange doxa my wife had another thought a third a third iteration of that and she said well that's the time you're not on your own so you go get that doxa you're on you're on your own everett she said that and i was like well i this is hypothetical baby she was like no go buy your fucking doxa so it's in the mail but that's right so so on one hand i say anything but a doxa but But depending on where you're at with this divorce, maybe that's when you do get the dachshund. So it's one of those two things. So we either buy Bobby a dachshund or we buy him anything else besides a dachshund because he's going to need to look good. He's going to need to look good.
Andrew	Or the divorce could lead to one of those crisis gap years where he travels the world and that dachshund is going to go everywhere with him and it's going to do it. It's going to hold up.
Everett	So that's the, I think that that covers most of our major gift occasions. What are we going to buy Bobby for his gift? I think we've basically nailed it. Any sort of add-ins or subtractions?
Andrew	I think that's the list and the way of what you're going to wear to something, what you're going to give somebody for something. Those are some, I don't know if that can be called a comprehensive list, but I'm going to call it the comprehensive list.
Everett	It's the definitive guide to milestone and occasion watches. Yeah. You've heard it here. Wonderful. Yeah. That's a good list of watches. And if you guys have ideas, what did we miss? What did we get wrong? Please send them in. We'll give your corrections on air.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	Other stuff that we like, it's time for the other stuff. We need to make a jingle so we can just press a button and then it can play the other stuff jingle. What would it be? Well, I don't know. I mean we need to work on the jingle. Okay. That's coming next. Okay, right.
Andrew	Coming soon.
Everett	I just have the idea in my head.
Andrew	I like it.
Everett	No, I'm with you. Other stuff.
Andrew	I just started.
Everett	I've got a piano right here. We could make something on the piano.
Andrew	And we have children and it doesn't matter how bad children sing, people seem to like it. It's wonderful. That's right. Yeah. Okay, right. Other stuff. I just started Bad Blood on Netflix. Okay. And I'm scrolling through tiles and looking for something to watch yesterday while I was folding mountain laundry and came across Bad Blood. And it's a relatively recent Netflix original. And it is the story of the Rizzuto crime family based out of Canada.
Everett	They don't do crime in Canada. They do. They don't do crime in Canada. They say sorry. He jaywalked. So they do crime and then they say sorry.
Andrew	Organized jaywalking. Organized jaywalking? Everywhere. Wow. Pandemonium. But it's told in the 80s, the 90s and the current era of like, or like, yeah, so like the 80s, the 90s and the early 2000s when the story is taking place. And it shows the head of this crime family being extradited to the United States and the power struggle that ensued. And it has been absolutely terrific. I can't remember the name of the guy who played Tig. in Sons of Anarchy. Oh sure. But he's one of the main characters and then it's got a bunch of dudes you recognize from every other mafia movie that's ever been made because there's only so many Sicilian dudes in the acting world so they get all the jobs.
Everett	And they've been in everything.
Andrew	They've been in all of them. So it feels familiar. These are all familiar mob boss, mob crime family faces that you're seeing. The acting is terrific. The storyline thus far has been Largely based on on true events. I'm about halfway through it and it has gripped me loved it And was it a full episode dropped or a full season dropped 14 episodes ready to go right now.
Everett	Go do it Say goodbye to tomorrow Did we talk about designated survivor last week? We did. Okay. Sorry guys We just do the same thing every week.
Andrew	And so we do Yeah, no, that's basically what we do. Yeah. Okay bad blood. What have you got?
Everett	All right, so I get What did you say? Farts. I feel like we always talk about shows, and I think that that's okay, and I think our fans probably expect it. They demand it of us. But I wanted to branch out a little bit this week. I know I talked about some pens a few weeks ago, but I wanted to talk about what is no shit, the best pencil I've ever used. And it's a free one.
Andrew	Ticonderoga number two. Whatever.
Everett	So that statement actually is what leads me to this choice. So people love the Dixon Ticonderoga. And the Dixon Ticonderoga is a salvageable pencil, but salvageable? Fuck off. It's, it's kind of a turd in the grand scheme of things. So there's a number of pencils that have sort of become popular in the last handful of years. Palomino is, uh, the Palomino black wing has sort of risen to prominence and they made up this fake story about Ernest Hemingway, yada, yada, yada. It's all bullshit by the way. A and B each, of the palomino pencils that I've tried is expensive and they all have problems. They all have problems. So the gun metal is a little too soft. The black is very soft. The whites are better and I've tried them all. I have them all on my desk right now. What do you use white pencil for? Oh, it's not a white pencil. It's a white paint on the pencil. Oh, okay. Yeah. So they're different hardness levels. So that's, that's my favorite of the, of the lot is the white ones that they're hard to get and they're expensive. And so there's a versatility shortage there with the Palomino Blackwings. However, there is a pencil.
Andrew	Say that word again. Which word? What we're talking about. Pencil? Pencil. Pencil? You say pencil. Pencil? Yeah. Interesting.
Everett	Okay. I think the Dixon Ticonderoga is kind of a turd. They don't sharpen very well.
Andrew	They sharpen well in old school rotary sharpeners.
Everett	Which I have. Um, but there's just a number of issues with the Ticonderoga that for me makes it not an everyday pencil. The lead's a little soft. However, there is a comparable pencil. Ubiquitous. They're a little bit more expensive, but the Mitsubishi 9850HB pencil. First, it's beautiful. It's got a red paint job on it. That is absolutely stunning. They've got white erasers that erase very well. And it's just a standard wood pencil. It's HB. phenomenal phenomenal if you're a regular user of wooden pencils this is the truth it is the best pencil and i've used a lot of pencils this is the one for me for a daily driver right now there's a whole bunch of things that i'm going to want a special pencil for but i don't want those pencils i don't want those those special pencils for other things right a very hard pencil if i'm outlining if i'm doing you know sketch work a very soft pencil if I'm filling in. But if I just want a daily driver writing pencil, this is the one. They stay sharp forever. They have a fantastic line. Great pencil. They're cheap too. They're cheap, easy to sharpen, wonderful, wonderful pencils. It's eight bucks for a dozen? Eight bucks for a dozen, give or take on Amazon. Yeah, that's right. So, uh, you know, what does that work out to? 70, 80 cents a pencil. Yeah. Killer value. And they're great. They're put together. I mean, they're Japanese. They're just fantastic. So if you're a user of pencils and you think Dixon Ticonderoga number two, boom, do me a favor, order a box of Mitsubishi 9850s. You will not be disappointed.
Andrew	I have to confess to you that I primarily use mechanical pencils.
Everett	Well, me too. I mean, I really like a mechanical pencil and we can talk about my favorite mechanical pencils.
Andrew	I'm just not in an environment where I can frequently sharpen pencils. So mechanical is the way to go for me.
Everett	If you're in the field at all, mechanical is for sure the way to go. And even if you're just, you know, in sort of go, go, go mode. I mean, I use a mechanical pencil a lot at work. Um, but sometimes I really want to use a wooden pencil. This is the one.
Andrew	This is the one I use. There is something really pleasing about the tactile feedback of a, of a wooden pencil that you don't get out of any other writing medium.
Everett	I think that's right. Yeah. I think that's right. There's a thing about it that, that is just. Really nice. Really nice. You know, and being able to, to get a sharp tip or a blunt, a blunt tip, um, being able to use it in different ways. You, you get more versatility out of a wooden pencil than you do out of a mechanical. Absolutely. For sure. So Mitsubishi 9850. Maybe I'll buy a box.
Andrew	You should, or I'll take one of your pencils.
Everett	I'll give you a handful of them. I've got, I think probably 50 of them in my desk. 50. Yeah. Cause you know, you're, you're, uh, yeah, yeah, yes.
Andrew	So did you mean to order like 10 pencils and order 10 boxes?
Everett	Maybe. I mean, I literally probably have 200 wooden pencils in my desk at work.
Andrew	That's absurd.
Everett	Yes, it is absurd. You're right.
Andrew	That's so weird.
Everett	I mean, this is not the weirdest thing you've ever learned about me, certainly. It could be.
Andrew	It really could be. I feel like there's a lot of other things in the world that would shock me less than how many pencils you have in your desk.
Everett	Yeah, well, maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit. 200? No, I think it's probably in that range. I think it's probably in that range. I mean, I use a lot of pencil. I tear through a pencil. I write all week long, just constant note taking. And so I go through a pencil probably once a week.
Andrew	Okay, so you have four years of pencils in your desk. Yes, that's right. Okay, that's right.
Everett	And more on the way. No, I didn't. I don't have any on the way.
Andrew	Okay.
Everett	Yeah, I don't have any on the way. I mean, some of them I feel like I'm not going to use. Like, I have a bunch of black paint, Palomino Black Wings that I realistically, I'm probably not going to use them.
Andrew	And you don't have like a, we're not talking to like a couple of boxes of colored pencils for your personal time, right?
Everett	No, no. But you, but you know, when I, here's what happens. I find a pencil and instead of buying one of those, I'll buy a box of them. Cause usually a box is like 10 bucks. So I'll just buy the box. And so I have a number of pencils that I've bought boxes of that I'm not, I'm not using, you know, regularly. Like I have a, I have a box of these very hard leaded, um, green Kimberly's. that are i love them i love the pencil but i just don't use that i just don't use that lead very often so i think i have i think i have 12 of those sitting on my desk and one of them will last me a very long time so i probably didn't need to buy 12 of those but i have 12 of them well you'll never say i wish i didn't have 12 of these well i mean i've already said it i think like i wish i just bought one of these you know because eventually the erasers are going to go hard and then Actually, I think those have a brass eraser, so.
Andrew	That's a lot of pencils.
Everett	Yeah, it is.
Andrew	You have an art studio in your desk. I have a mild problem. Maybe. That's accurate. Yeah, no, that's OK, though. That's OK. I mean, I've got a number of them. No, that's true. This is not your worst.
Everett	Well, anything else you got you're dying to talk about today? No, man, I'm good. All right. Well, then thank you all for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20. Don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.