Horage Might Be Better Than you Think (322)
Published on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 10:13:42 -0800
Synopsis
In this Christmas Eve episode of the Watch Clicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new and interesting watches while sharing drinks and holiday stories. They begin by sharing their different family Christmas traditions before diving into watch discussions, including new releases from Omega, Holtenricks (featuring 3D printed cases and concrete dials), and Horage's Omnium K2 collection. They also cover Chopard's new Alpine Eagle "his and hers" set and a unique Van Doren watch inspired by Norwegian hi-fi equipment. The episode concludes with an extended discussion about a white elephant whiskey exchange and a detailed review of Barrel Armida bourbon, which they sample during the recording.
The hosts provide detailed technical analysis of each timepiece while maintaining casual banter throughout. They discuss various aspects including case sizes, movements, pricing, and their personal opinions on design choices. The conversation frequently diverges into related topics but always returns to their core focus on watches, demonstrating both their expertise and genuine enthusiasm for horology.
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| Everett | Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your host Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. |
| Andrew | Everett. |
| Everett | Merry Christmas Eve. And how are you? Yeah, Merry Christmas Eve. It'll be the day after Christmas for you. No, for me, it's it remains Christmas Eve. I'm not talking to you for you. It'll be the day after Christmas. It is Christmas Eve for us. Andrew, I'm doing I'm doing really well. That's how committed we are. You know, yeah, that's true. It's Christmas Eve. Here we are drinking Topo and beer and Yeah, yeah, chilling, doing, doing, chilling things. Uh, I had a really nice day, went up to Portland, hung out with my fam, um, had some, uh, Christmas food. We've got a, uh, a Christmas tradition in my family, uh, revolving around a dish called Spaghetti. Is that like baked spaghetti? It is baked elbow macaroni. Okay. Yeah, it's really just like cheese, spaghetti cheese thing. casserole thing. Okay. I mean in the simplest way, I think it involves black olives and ground beef and cream of mushroom soup and like tomato paste. Oh, that kind of makes sense. With a, with a, uh, an excessive amount of cheese. Nice. Like one-to-one cheese to pasta. Uh, maybe. Yeah, perhaps. I mean, it's, it's really a lot of cheese. One to one, maybe not quite that much, but a lot of cheese. Uh, and it's delicious. It's fantastic. My, my childhood. You eat it with, with garlic bread. Obviously. Yeah. My childhood Christmas Eve tradition was pigs in a blanket. So growing up, I believed I knew what pigs in a blanket was. Uh, pigs in a blanket in my family as a child was, uh, like, parboiled cabbage leaves. that were wrapped around a ground beef, rice, and ketchup mixture, like kind of meatball. Meatloaf-y. Yeah, kind of meatloaf-y, but like just a touch softer than meatloaf, and then wrapped, and then put into a broiler pan, and then baked so that the top of the cabbage would brown, and then you'd put another half gallon of ketchup on the top of all of it to like caramelize, And so growing up, that's what I believed pigs in a blanket to be. Now as an adult, that is not what I believe pigs in a blanket is. It's just not it. That's not like, yeah, you just, that's different. That's a very, very different thing. But that was my childhood Christmas Eve dinner tradition. And I always thought it was really weird as a kid to like spend Christmas Eve, like travel somewhere, not a long way, but like, You know, shy of an hour, travel somewhere on Christmas Eve, celebrate Christmas Eve, and then go home, like another hour, and then the following morning, travel to a different location, a similar distance away, with all the same people, and do virtually the same thing, and then go home. I did always think that was weird. Continue to think that to be a weird thing. Yeah, it was the same people? Yeah, I didn't get to see my dad's family when I was a kid on Christmas. Well, why'd you guys do two days? Right? That's why I think it was weird. I mean, that is weird. Like grandma hosted Christmas Eve and then one of my aunts always hosted Christmas day. And it was like, why are we doing this twice? Like this, I'm a child and this doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. I mean, even I'm an adult and now, yeah, now as an adult, I continue to believe that it doesn't make sense. I tell my kids get 200 times a day, Hey, let's do things that make sense. Uh, and it may be largely in part informed by doing shit that didn't make sense as a kid. It was just, we really want to see you more. No, I just don't think that's it. I, I just, I don't know what it is cause it doesn't make sense for us growing up. It was, it was, Mom's family on one day, dad's family on the other. Yeah, we, I didn't, that was it. Yeah. That wasn't a thing for me. I think it was typically mom's family, Christmas Eve, dad's family on Christmas day. That makes sense. And that was it. Like it was just, and it was like, it was the same thing, but with different people and more presents. And different places. Definitely different places. |
| Andrew | Yes. No, no, mine was just different places, same people, different food. Obviously we didn't have pigs in a blanket the following day. |
| Everett | Yeah. Yeah, we, and we would do Spigooty on the one day and not Spigooty on the second. Spigooty seems really uniquely your family. I don't know of anybody else. No, no, no, it very much is. It is very much uniquely my family, but that was the tradition. Same with my cabbage pigs in a blanket. I don't know, even to this day, I'm like, that's a weird thing to do. Did you ever have Dina Cola's pizza in Portland, Andrew? It was on Division. No. No, excuse me, not Division. It was on Powell. It was on probably like 30th and Powell. |
| Andrew | We didn't venture to the ghetto very often. |
| Everett | Fair enough, in fairness to 30th and Powell, that's a little short of the ghetto. My dad lived deep on Powell, I wanna say like 82nd and Powell. That's where I grew up, it was 82nd and Powell, or 82nd and Foster, which is just. And we would venture out there only to go to his house. Yeah, that was the hood. Yeah, it was straight hood. That was the hood. His neighbor's car got left on blocks several times. That's where I grew up. |
| Andrew | Yeah, interesting place. |
| Everett | Yeah, yeah, that was rough. Uh, no, no, 30th Impel, not quite that deep. Well, anyway, uh, occasionally there would be some Dina Cola's pizza at Christmas as well. Christmas Eve. We'd always do Silver Dollar. Is that the pizza place? You know, it's a strip club in Eugene. In Eugene, but in Portland, I believe it's a pizza place. Perhaps. Oh yeah, that's the one out on Northwest. |
| Andrew | Yeah. Yeah, yeah. |
| Everett | In fact, Andrew, I was involved in a three-year litigation regarding Silver Dollar Pizza. They had good pizza. Let's move it along. Here it's a strip club. You could be involved in litigation there. I'll tell you that story. It's a good one. It's kind of like a more like win. But I'm not gonna tell you that story because we're not here to talk about strip club litigations. This was a pizza place, by the way. nor are we here to talk about Christmas in-law dining locations, nor are we here to talk about anything else besides watches. We're here to talk about watches, people, and watches we're going to talk about. I swear like pizza and strip clubs as a conversation topic. I'm gonna say for the record, Andrew sent me a list of 37 watches to talk about today. |
| Andrew | Now, |
| Everett | It was, don't exaggerate. If we were to get to all 37 watches, it was only 25. It would be approximately 28 more watches than we've ever talked about on a single show before. But I'm excited to see Andrew take a stab at this. Now, he sent his watches to me. I saw, oh, 37 links, wow. I picked a much more conservative, I think, five watches to talk about. And they all overlapped. I was shocked to see, I believe there are only one or perhaps two watches that overlapped between our lists. All your shit talking and half, cause you, you paired it down your list to accommodate the overlap. I didn't, I just, I just rolled them out. Oh, so you just sent only five things. That was your plan for this episode. Just talk about five things. You're a sack of garbage. I knew you had sent 37, so I wasn't like trying to scrape the barrel, but these are the watches I wanted to talk about. And I would thought, well, for sure, Andrew is going to have all of these I was shocked that you didn't have them all on your list. I Found it. Uh-huh because I kind of hate the things you want to talk about I Don't know why I mean maybe just because they're hot garbage. I'm gonna start with something. It's a little bit boring But it's something that's that's worth talking about really briefly. We're gonna talk about a new Omega Seamaster color variation It's for the 41 and the 38. I actually think this is a special color. I understand that this is the 195th color variation that Omega released. |
| Andrew | It's 199. |
| Everett | 200 is going to be the special one. So this is just Omega adding to their color collection for the Seamaster Aqua Terra, which I think is kind of, is maybe jockeying for position to be the true to form flagship of Omega in the way of what they're putting into it, the ass they're putting behind it. I think the Aqua Terra is kind of a Omega thing right now. You know, Speedmaster's always going to be this pride and joy, I think the Aqua Terra is kind of like where they're putting their ass right now. So this Gradient Turquoise, and I've said on this show. I knew you'd say this in a week that they released two Cendigold Seamaster. Keep going, carry on. That I've said on this show, I don't know, 500 times, Gradient doesn't do it for me. This version does. This like jade, they call it turquoise. This isn't turquoise. Turquoise is a lot more blue in it. This is like jade green, gradient out to black, black outlined markers. Like it's just, it's like looking into the depths of the ocean. Like just watching the light penetration fail. And it's gorgeous. Black logo on the Omega, black date wheel. This is phenomenal. And they're putting it on both colorways. What's the 41 and the 38, which is exactly the right choice. This is an Aqua Terra. Not much more needs to be said, but this is a really fantastic colorway. And it's a cool addition to this line, making color $299. 199, don't exaggerate. No, I mean, yeah, I'm with you. I think they did a good job with the marketing photos on these. They've chosen this gradient. Anyway, the marketing photos on this are beautiful. I don't accept turquoise, though. Turquoise is much lighter. Don't know how I think this is turquoise I don't know how I feel about the decision to go black on this one. You apparently liked it. I really like it it just it really adds to the like what I think they were going for of |
| Andrew | Seeing like looking into the ocean and seeing the light kind of fade away. |
| Unknown | Hmm. |
| Everett | Because the ocean's not clear. Even when you're in it, you're looking around. Everything's kind of green. And then it just fades away to black. Yeah, I think it's, I mean, maybe I'm projecting something onto this color variation, but I don't expect so. I think people much smarter than me decided on this. Yeah, I mean, it's fine. It's fine. I think it's a really lovely color way. Yeah. |
| Andrew | That's what we don't need to talk about for long. We need to move on. What do you have? |
| Everett | What's one of your three picks for this week? Oh, it's one of my picks. Okay, go for it. Yeah, it's a concrete dial. Why are you coming with so much heat? This is what it feels like to co-host with you every week, just so you know. I decided to project, or to reflect. Well, since you also, since this is one of the few overlap pieces we have. Will you slurp it? Do you wanna take a stab at the pronunciation? No, this is your pick. I'm gonna say Holtenricks. Holtenricks watches. I think I accept your decision. Yeah, you know, I was reading Vuk's write-up on this, on the It's About Time newsletter, and he made a joke about, you know, we've been hearing how 3D printing is the future of everything. wrong. And yet for him, and I think for maybe many of us in different iterations, the only 3d printing we see on a regular basis is the little rubber duckies that our friends leave around the house and ghost guns used in shootings. Right. So, uh, and, and that felt really, I was like, yeah, that's, I, I identify with that. However, Holfenrichs is using 3D printing to make watches. And it's pretty neat. It's interesting, how about that? Interesting, I accept interesting. Neat, I think is a little bit of an overstatement because there are far neater things happening with their other variety. But the flexibility and the capacity that can come with 3D printing, I think is pretty neat. in the way of prototyping. I don't think in the way of finished products. Yeah, well, I mean, it takes so long to print at scale, right? People are setting up these print firms. Anyway, so they released this week a collaboration watch. The watches, or the Signature Ornament Concrete Jungle is what they're calling this. This is a collaboration with the Horology Club, AKA THC, which, Not marijuana. Perhaps. |
| Andrew | We don't know this. Maybe they burn blunts and welt straps. I don't know. |
| Everett | Haven't been there. Just some marketing. This limited edition timepiece embodies Hultenreich's innovative horlogerie brute, horlogerie brute approach, emphasizing texture, materials, and patina. paired with THC's collector-focused design language, which reinterprets classical watchmaking with a modern twist."Okay, that's the marketing. Fair, though, fair. I mean, I don't know about some of the superlatives there, but this is a 3D-printed watch case with a concrete dial with a Chinese bone script on the dial. Concrete dial. Let's, let's reiterate on that. It's a concrete molded dial. That's right. Yeah. Um, and it has, I was trying to think of what this case made me think of, but I kind of struggled. It sort of seems like, you know, that movie from the eighties, the never ending story, |
| Andrew | Mmm. |
| Everett | You know that, like, that castle in the sky that we sort of get a glimpse of? Yeah. That's what this case made me feel like. Now I say that and that makes it, you know, you maybe have a lot of different pictures in your head, but when you look at the case, When you look at the case, I don't mean you necessarily, Andrew, I mean you at home, but also perhaps you, tell me that that's not like, this has this sort of sci-fi... It does, but it has these skeletonized, twisted lugs. I'm really glad you said that, Andrew, because I agree that these lugs, so these lugs are fascinating to me because they have so little material they do not have enough material to actually present a twist and yet somehow it's because of the spiral cuts in it this looks like they're clearly twisted look this looks like the watch that legolas would wear in lord of the rings fair this is it i accept yes They're not twisted, but they're spiral cut into the lugs and you're right There's not enough material for them to be twisted, but they're clearly twisted They're like they're like missing the middle braid of the braid to be braided lugs That's right I do not go in for this kind of thing. I do. You know, fair enough. I don't actually think you do. I think you are excited about it. Yeah, I think this is super cool. But you own absolutely nothing that's even remotely like this. Oh, I would never wear this. That's what I mean. No, no, I would not wear it, but I want it. So the case is there's there's two different case options. So there's the signature ornament case. This is a CNC machine case with polish and brush and grain surfaces to really bring out the texture. And then there's the Signature Lab case, which is crafted using advanced 3D printing technology, allows for intricate details such as skeleton lugs, unique to the Lab series. You know, Andrew, these things are... I think these are really special. I think it's a really cool, I think it's a really cool watch. They're like five grand, six grand, I can't remember. |
| Andrew | I did the math on these things. |
| Everett | The lab on these, the 3D printed is... like about six grand, and the titanium is 4,100 money. And we're talking U.S. dollars when we refer to money. Everything else is imaginary. With the language around skeletonized on the lab, it makes me wonder if they CNC skeletonized the lugs and the titanium. I just don't know. It's kind of unclear with the write-ups that I read about it. Well, so the lab is the only one that's actually skeletonized. So the other version has a solid. Oh, does it? It does. Yeah. The other version. |
| Andrew | Oh, OK. I didn't. |
| Everett | Who's write up is that? Uh, this is on the Holfenrich's website. So I didn't go to, I just looked at the write-ups on it. I didn't go to their website. I was, I was burning through. It's Christmas Eve. Give me a break. Um, both are made with grade five titanium. Both are really appealing. Um, but the, the, the 3d printed the, is the skeletonized case one and it's, it's really stunning. It's, it's a really interesting exercise in what can I do with a 3d printer? And then what other interesting thing can I do? Because we spent this entire time talking about the case, and we're not talking about a fully loomed concrete dial. Yeah, that's right. Luminova infused concrete with a metal base. Which in and of itself should be the star of the show. Yeah. And it's just not with the creativity and boundary pushing design of this case. Because a fully loomed concrete dial with, what's the correct nomenclature here? Luminoma infused? No, no, for the markers. Oh, oh, yeah, it's some sort of, it's a Chinese bone script. Bone script, yeah, with bone script markers, which are, Just lovely or Oracle bone script, the oldest form, which is the oldest form of Chinese writing, the oldest known form of Chinese writing. And they're just lovely. Everything about this watch is just. So attractive. Yeah, and yet none of it is something that I would want the handset is kind of but I think they could have gone With a different handset here. The length is all wrong on the hands. Oh, well, maybe I don't know It's the sword shape the logo at the 12 o'clock with like this a really long kind of script II signature and and as somebody who has a lot of long flat lines in their official signature, I'm comfortable critiquing that and Yeah, it looks like, in fact, I thought it was Jim Henson's signature. I was like, oh no, oh no, that's not. It's a Muppet watch, it kind of is, but all of the things they're putting into this are absolutely fascinating, and I think this watch deserves a look in the way of not just a novelty, but in the way of pushing boundaries of design material, design practices. Yeah, I'm with you on that. This is really neat. So a few details, it's a 38 and a half millimeter case, which is a terrific size. Grade five titanium for both the ornament and the lab case. 9.85 thick, which is terrific. 46 millimeter lug to lug, so it's gonna be incredibly wearable in case you were worried about that. SW300. There are only 50 of the lab series being made, the more expensive of the two. And the ornament case is a time-limited release. Which is such a baller move. The number-limited release is trash. Time-limited is the way to go, and every brand needs to go to that if they're doing limited releases. Yeah, I think it makes sense for them to do that. I think it's really pragmatic. Right here, they're saying, the labs are going to be super hard to make, so we'll promise to make 50 of them. Come get them while they're hot. The ornaments we can make as many of them as you guys want to buy. I think that makes sense. Um, don't like Go ahead. There's not Any water resistance assessment? Oh, yeah. No, which is a weird I'm just gonna i'm just gonna say the these are gonna have They're gonna have 50 meters and limited water resistance, but they should the the Yeah, it's wild the the the 3d printed I can kind of accept the unknown Like here, they're still machining the threads Yeah, but the machine, the CNC machine, they should have tested those. Like, give a 10 meter rating, even a one meter rating to the CNC. Maybe it's just like, we don't care. Like, it's not the idea here. But this is a... It'll keep some water out. It's a sport watch. And maybe, yeah. Anyway, Halton Rex. Yeah, this is fascinating. Signature ornament. Which isn't, is Holten Ricks a Chinese company? I know THC is a Hong Kong based collective. Which makes sense for the bone script, but I don't know anything about Holten Ricks. This is the first time I've ever seen that name. Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure we're saying it wrong. Give me a little bit more credit. That's how I would have said it, so that's why I'm assuming it's wrong. Yeah, come on. Regardless, this is, this is cool. And it deserves to be talked about. Because in the weeks leading up to Christmas, there's not usually a lot of cool releases happening. I will talk about another watch brand that we haven't talked about. I can, I'm sure we've talked about Chrono Swiss before, but yeah. So the Chronoswiss Delphi Firestarter with a world first material. And that's what got me excited. When I see a headline that says a world's first material, you have my attention because I know you're lying. You're just not telling me the truth. You're, you're trying to get me to, you're baiting me to click it. I'm going to click it and I'm, and I'm going to like just settle into my chair, do the little butt wiggle, like the butthole scratch on the couch and be like, you're wrong. You know what I'm talking about? Everyone sees the thing that I'm doing and it's the thing that you do when you like settle in to prove somebody wrong. I don't know that I've ever scratched my butthole on the couch, but go ahead, carry on. With the couch? You're doing it on my chair right now. I'm thinking about doing it. I'm not actually like, maybe you've done it. Maybe not consciously. I do it sometimes. I just like, I just like prep. Uh, so anyway, I get into reading this. It is a world first titanium core nano shell case in a fiery red color. So first off, it's not a world first material usage. It is perhaps the first way to apply this material in conjunction with other materials. Maybe we'll call it a first composite. I don't know if I can accept a world first. This watch is ugly as sin. It is the worst. It looks like the watch that the Red Skull would wear when he's expecting people to trade souls for the Soul Stone in |
| Andrew | uh, in the Avengers, I, there, there is nothing. |
| Everett | Let's just say, let's just, let's just for a moment, they're, they're marketing. This is a titanium core nano shell, which is straight out of a Favreau Marvel film. Yes. Right. Like this is some kind of like shell, colored, infused with, and then wrapped around a titanium core. This is like frivolous for frivolous sake. The rest of the watch is nigh on unreadable and looks right out of a Marvel movie. So don't click on the bait, man. This is just a clickbait watch. It's 41,800 euros. Nobody wants this watch. Nobody. I mean, it's a conversation starter, perhaps. Yeah. Hey, you know what? My watch costs more than your cars. That's right. I said cars, both of them. It's just like, I don't think this is the watch to hang your hat on innovating with technology on. this watch sucks. You know, I think these, I hate it. I hate everything about it up to and including the fact that they made me click on a link for them to say we're doing the first thing ever and they're not doing the first thing ever, even if they might be. I think these, I'm going to pronounce these Delphi's case or maybe Delphi's cases. I like Delphi for it. It looks French. They're a beautiful, these are a beautiful, beautiful, it's a beautiful case, right? |
| Andrew | Not from the side, look at that. |
| Everett | And when you get these in, when you get, I think- Slab of bacon right there. It's a drum style case, which is- It's a hand cut pork belly case. Is typical, and I do think it's a beautiful case. However, here, there's just so little, in my mind, There's so little class to the dial. I mean, just everything is really gaudy. I think I'm going to amend my statement. This isn't what Red Skull would wear. This is what Ben Affleck as Daredevil would wear. This is just the worst. You can imagine, I mean, perhaps, Andrew, for a moment, you can imagine sort of a yellow gold case or perhaps a white and yellow gold two-tone case with a moon phase. If they open work this bottom half, maybe. Breguet hands, right? Like this could be this could be a beautiful watch. And a Corolla could be a beautiful car if they just reworked the entire body and changed out the motor. Maybe I'm higher on the case shape than you are, but I think the case shape is unique. This could be a beautiful watch. This is not. The case has really great, the lugs on this are maybe some of my favorite lugs I've ever seen. in like the kind of claw off of the case. The bevel on them is really fantastic. But the rest of this watch, I couldn't even set it on fire. We do need to say that this is a Lajou Perret and LJP jumping hours window. neat with a single minute hand that moves. I think there's retrograde minutes. Anyway, it is a really interesting watch. This this is it. It doesn't match my taste. This execution is just wild. It's wild. Yeah. Prince would wear this watch. Bruno Mars will wear this watch. No, no, those guys have way too much class for this watch. It's a really interesting watch. I do agree with you, though, that it's pretty. Jake Paul will wear this watch. Ugly. I don't like it. It's just as ugly as Santa. Maybe that's because we're poor. No. Maybe if we were incredibly wealthy, we'd be like, oh, that's interesting. No amount of money. I don't know how many other watches I would buy before I got to a point where I would be like, yeah, I'll buy this watch. Thousands. I'll say one other thing here. I'll say one other thing about this in defense of this watch, because I'm with you, but I'll just devil's advocate for a second. The finishing on that titanium is really, really incredible looking. It is an exquisite looking finish. Quit trying to redeem this nonsense. Like I said, devil's advocate. I got click baited. I'm with you, but. This is worse than being rick rolled. That finishing is exquisite. These are renderings. Are they renderings? |
| Andrew | Yeah, all of them are renderings. |
| Everett | None of these are real. That's a rendering on the wrist. I don't think so. That's a rendering for sure. I disagree with you. I think that's a real watch. It has six hours of editing done to it. There's no shadows from the watch. There's shadows from the man's hairy wrist. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. That guy's got a real hairy hand. Yeah, I I can. I guess I can see the appeal, but the actual watch the interaction between the strap and the watch that is not. That's a rendering. Maybe. It's it. No, there's nothing redeeming here. You click baited me. You didn't give me a truly new material. Titanium core is not world first. I don't know what your composite is. I've got another one. Was that mine? No, that was yours. Yeah, this is your last one. I got another one. I believe this is Derika. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't. So I saw this. I was intrigued by it. I opted not to pick it because I was not prepared to even venture on the |
| Andrew | the words. |
| Everett | So this is, it's Dutch. DeRicka is Dutch. I'm gonna say DeRicka, I think that's right, but I'm sure I'm missing some nuance to that pronunciation. I'll also accept the possibility that it's DeRishka. No, it's not Russian. Rish would be like eastern, like Polish, Russian. I'm going with DeRicka, I think you're close. DeRicka, so DeRicka is a Dutch watch company, Sure, I guess that happens. I had not heard of them before. However, they've released a watch that caught my eye. And only for me to find out that this is the third or perhaps the fourth in a series of watches from Dorica. These are sort of, these watches, whimsically, perhaps feature Miffy. Miffy the bunny, who is a Dutch cartoon character of some prominence, but has a certain amount of international appeal. Miffy's a big deal if you got kids, perhaps. Maybe not like Paw Patrol big deal. It seems like Mickey. But like when you look at this, this has all the whimsy of a Mickey Mouse Timex perhaps, but is far and away better. Yeah. Well, so, uh, I think that's what's interesting about this watch because it's clearly a cartoon character watch. It's, you know, a kid's cartoon. Miffy's a thing. Um, And so you're like, well, OK, well, what is this? Well, this is actually there's two watches. There are two watches. There is both a single and a double moon phase. These come in Dorica's Amalfi case, and this is what caught my eye. |
| Andrew | Forgive me. What's a double moon phase? |
| Everett | A double moon phase is where both sides of the moon. So if you I sent you this worn and wound link. Oh, I'm not trying to be an asshole. I was, I'm familiar with the double moon phase. I thought you might explain it for those who might not be. Oh, well maybe, but why don't you explain it, Andrew, because I'm not sure I have that. So as the way I look at a double moon phase is you're seeing both of the light and dark side of the moon in the phase. In a typical moon phase, you're looking at the phase of the moon that we as Earth Dwellers. Mm-hmm are able to see because of the way the earth is blocking the light from the Sun onto the moon so the double moon phase is going to show a moon phase in the like non obstructed view of The of the moon phase and then the obstructed view or in some way Covered like the the way I've seen it is similar to this. I've seen it a couple A couple times, I don't really, I can't give you a number of how many times. I've just seen it a couple times where like the reverse image of it is some way obscured by like a translucent cover showing. |
| Andrew | Which is what they've done here. |
| Everett | Yeah, showing what the, what the uncovered, like. Uncovered side of the moon would be so at all points during that moon phase You can see a full picture of the moon on your dial ice of varying degrees So, you know, you're like that's that's what I've seen. I Yeah, yeah, I've seen it before and I was like, oh that's really an interesting Way of depicting that I'm down with it. I don't know where though It's not a common way to depict a moon phase Uh, yeah, no, I, that's a better explanation than I could have given Andrew for. And it doesn't matter. I've, I recall the first time I saw it, I was like, Oh, that's actually really intriguing. Like it kind of makes the moon phase fun because for me, a moon phase is sort of a frivolous, uh, Complication. But the double moon phase, the first time I saw it, I was like, oh, it's kind of fun. You get to see both sides of the moon. Like, that's your moon phase. You kind of see the waxing and waning on both sides. Yeah, that's right. Where have I seen it? And that's a better job than I could have done. This is not the only thing that makes this watch interesting. So quickly, this is in their Amalfi cage, which is a 38 millimeter by 11 millimeter tall case. So it's not exactly a minuscule watch, but it has another trick up its sleeve. The Amalfi was originally conceived by Dorica as a driving watch. Which is a thing, I guess. We wear watches driving. I wear lots of watches driving. Every watch I wear, I'm driving. But what it does is the case actually has a grooved slot along the crown side. which allows you to, I believe, by releasing the pressure on the crown to rotate the dial to allow you to achieve a better viewing angle. |
| Andrew | Oh, what? |
| Everett | Yeah. It's like floating inside the case. Yeah. So at the, at the standard north south location, the crown is all the way up at like perhaps one 30 and then you can loosen that and move that down. You can move that down to give you a different angle. Because if you're driving super hard and you can't leave two o'clock, you need to give it a little traverse of the dial on your watch. Man, that's the kind of frivolous shit that I want. I don't know how practical it is. Not. But I love the fact that it's different and it's interesting and there's a story. And I also, I really like when watches give you some sort of like tactile experience outside of, you know, like these canteen watches or whatever. Like, I think that's a little, I don't love it. I don't love the aesthetics of it, but this is like more, Anyway, I'm into it, Andrew. I think it's pretty clever. These are not cheap watches for a cartoon watch. I think they come in at 31, 4,000 euros for the single and a little bit more than that for the double. It's like 80 bucks. Maybe a little bit more than that. They've got really interesting loom. The Worn and Wound post that we're gonna link to has some pictures ostensibly from Dorica, which show the components kind of broken down, which I think is fun. There's pictures of the dial before it has the markers applied. It's like a disassembled watch, too. Yeah, and there's actually the moon phase. with and without finishing, anyway. This moon phase is interesting in that it's not a, I'm not really sure how it's a moon phase. Not a true moon phase, right. Because there's a rabbit sitting in a crescent moon on both sides. It's more, yeah, so it's more giving you, it's less giving you the phase of the moon and more just the position of the moon, I believe, perhaps. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | So anyway, there was a German brand that I saw that the dual moon phase, I don't remember the name. I looked it up cause I I'd seen it before. I'm sure it was some more, but. I think it's a pretty attractive and pretty interesting watch. |
| Andrew | It's cute. |
| Everett | It's like cute with like a cool technology that oscillating, no oscillating is not the word. I think just rotating. |
| Andrew | Rotating is maybe the right word. |
| Everett | The watch actually rotates inside the case, which you can set at a position at an angle of your pleasing. It's also, I mean, it's just an interesting, it's an interesting watch. Pleasure, I think is the word. It's an interesting, you know, I like this, although horologically it's perhaps less significant. I like this a heck of a lot better than the Chronoswiss. Let's move on from that nonsense. I'm talking about watching. I know you're gonna like Because I know you like this watch show pard and art in time debuted in Alpine Eagle his and hers chameleon set and The Alpine Eagle is a watch that I know you absolutely adore. I do adore it and I was like kind of medium about it because most of the watches that you like when I see a picture of it, I'm like And then many of them, when I see them in person and I put it on, I'm like, you know, I know you didn't know this, but I like, I have to give you some credit for liking this watch because this watch wears just phenomenally and I really like it. The Alpine Eagle is absolutely no exception to this. The first time I saw it, I was like, eh, I don't know. Like, yeah, I'm not against it, but I'm also like not really for it. And I put an Alpine Eagle on and I was like, huh. I'm faster than anyone in this room. Except for the guy in the corner with the Uzi. Yeah, but you know what? Never mind that guy. There's a lot of people between him and I, and I'm pretty sure I could get at least to the F train. So they've released a 41 and a 36 chameleon his and hers. This is like a like a very statement purple blue kind of gradient color combination. His and hers watch that can only be worn in a his and hers context. Right? Like I feel like this, I don't know, like for me, if I'm with my wife out in public and I'm wearing his and she's wearing hers, I feel pretty okay about it. If not, I feel maybe a little bit like an asshole. I don't really know how to, um, and justify that position. I'm not sure if I need to, because there's only 1500 of them or 15 of them being made. And there's $60,000 for the pair of them because they're all crosses and diamonds. I buy these and just dual risk them. Maybe. Maybe that's the option, like the real his and hers. But they're lovely. The his the 41 has a small seconds. I'm not really a big fan of. I don't like small seconds on the Alpine Eagle. The the 36, though, I really do like the 36 has the diamond diamond bezel. |
| Andrew | Yeah, the diamond bezel and 36 diamond. |
| Everett | I don't know what what I'm sure those are diamonds for 60 grand. I'm sure there's diamonds on the on the bezel. But our diamond diamonds come in these colors. Diamonds come in every color. You grow them. Yeah, right. Sapphires there. |
| Andrew | It's not worth it. This is a big rip off. |
| Everett | Regardless, this is a lovely his and hers set. There's only 15 of them being made for the the true show part Alpine Eagle fans. I just I I looked at these and I honestly I'd wear them both. I'd wear either of them. I've never been a gemstone-crusted bezel person, but looking at this one, I'm like, I could get down with this. I will just say for the record, for anybody who cares, and there'll be very few of you that care, this, the male, the men's version of this has the, it's the XPS, which is an eight hertz micro-rotor movement. It is also small seconds, but it's their eight hertz micro-rotor movement, which is a fucking, It's the thing. Brilliant movement. But yeah, we can. Yeah, I think I think it's fun. And they're both they're both baller watches and to be sold as a set. They could double the pricing. Yeah, maybe we could get his and hers and then we could just trade off. Yeah, that works for me. That works for me. Wives. I'll just wire you the money. Hmm. I was going to say I will pay you back. Yeah, those are clever. You know, are we gonna get to all of these, Andrew? Not a chance. Okay, so I'm going to, well, we're definitely not getting to all of yours. I am going to talk about a watch from a new watch company. When I say new, they're 2015, so not quite nine years old. Oh no, excuse me, that's wrong. They're a 2009 brand, so they're 15 years old. So they're not even kind of new. A brand called Horage. Horage, which I actually think Horage is an interesting brand in that they feel in some ways more like this feels like a brand that was made to showcase movement technology, perhaps more than watches. And that's what they're doing. And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Because in addition to selling like crazy micro-rotor, or not micro-rotor, tourbillon shit, they also make some really, like, just... Awesome watches. So they have just released the Horage Omnium K2 collection. I think this is actually the third version of the Omnium watch. And unlike prior versions, which were 40 millimeters, which in like 2009 speak is pretty conservative. These come in at a really, really good 37.3 millimeters. 904 stainless steel, PT950 platinum, or 18 karat 3N yellow gold. |
| Andrew | I don't know. I don't know. |
| Everett | Don't know, don't care. Sorry, my bad. We've got a terrific slate of dial colors. Midnight blue, white, and pink. So with that case size, 43.8 lug to lug. These are small. And Andrew, and Andrew, and Andrew, 7.95 millimeters, which I think some people would call that eight, but if you're under eight, you fucking tell the world. Yes. Yeah, you flop that thing around. Because with those dimensions, and even with these long lugs, because these have really long, oh, those. |
| Andrew | No, they're like wire lugs. I don't know how long they are. |
| Everett | They're not long, but they do protrude. wire lugs feel long. That's right. They protrude. Right. They like without that case kind of sloping into your lug. These wire lugs look long, but with 43 millimeters, you're going to have a really petite watch with the illusion of long lugs that's going to fit any wrist and give you that really classic like 28 to 30 millimeter watch wire lug look without being so small you can't read it. That's right. That's right. And with a micro rotor, come on. These are in-house movements. What, like, this brand's just like, hey, we got this really cool stuff, it's really okay, just take a look at it. I think these are, I just think these are so, so terrific. These movements look 3D printed. The way they do their decoration and like, like, What's the word? The word I'm looking for is eluding me. Uh, printing on these materials and stamping on their plating. It's not Gio. So it's Gio on the back, but then it's like grid squares on the plates. This looks like 3d printed nonsense and it's just not there. They're this wonderful combination of Modern technology and modern design feel with like really really good fundamentals of design. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So these are these feature the in good font. You can complain all you want. I'm sure you like this font. I know you like this font. Look at the three on that white dial. No, the bottom curve on that three. Yeah, no, I think it's a terrific font, Andrew. I'm with you. I just don't want to interrupt you. Weird. I'm sorry, I'm excited about these. I really like these. So these, so Araja's equipped these with their K2 movement, which is, as Andrew has said, a really, really elegant, but also sort of modern looking movement. |
| Andrew | Kind of industrial almost. |
| Everett | yeah yeah that's right 2.9 millimeter thick 72 hours of power reserve it's a 25 200 vibration movement which is also crazy fast chronometer certified uh hairspring escape wheel and anchor all in silicon um Dude. Oh, and they're 10 grand. Except they're not. Yeah, no, they're super. I mean, they're like, for the steel ones, they're under, they're 4,500 francs or 4,600 francs. So 4,700 bucks. You know, I don't know what the translation is right now, but. Maybe 4,800 bucks. Oh, and it's got a triple faceted sapphire crystal. Oh. This these things are crazy. You can get also Andrew you can get these in yellow gold for 12,000 francs and I think the Platinum like 15. Yes. So yes, so this is I I'll draw the comparison here This is like an upline manta. It's like, how much cool technology can we smash into this watch? Maybe Form X, but how much cool shit can we shove into this watch? Yeah, I think Form X is a more apt comparison. Keep a really conservative design. Meanwhile, we'll do all of the coolest possible shit and you'll never know. And bring in the, and bring the, the, um, the movement making in house. Right. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | So perhaps similar to, um, perhaps similar to that German brand. Uh, what am I just blanking on them? Um, no most, Well, it's hard not to. |
| Andrew | Yeah, but I don't know. |
| Everett | I don't think Nomos is doing as much cool shit. A mix of perhaps, a mix of perhaps Yema and Nomos and Formex, right? And maybe like a perfect blend of the things those three companies are doing. I'm really into this. I'm high on this watch. If there was a Nomos logo at the 12 o'clock, I don't think anyone would bat an eye. Nope, because it's got a tangente feel to it. Yeah, it super does. I don't love the Mirage logo, that's the other thing. They've got that dot matrix logo that I don't love. |
| Andrew | Yeah, but you know, I think I can forgive it. |
| Everett | I think I mean, of course I can't do this is such an X because they're smashing so like the top down. This is a perfectly acceptable watch. Have you seen the printing at the six o'clock? And then you, yes. That BLBN printing at the six o'clock. And then you like figure out what's going into this thing and it's just, it's mind blowing. Yeah, yeah. This is the coolest dress watch we've ever talked about on this show. Hard stop. This is the coolest dress watch we've ever way. I mean we've talked about some really cool dress watch. Oh This is a hundred. I well, I think it's a hundred percent a dress watch at that size, but hey It's not not I I I don't know. I think this is like a 30s 40s inspired like this is the watch that you have and it has to do the things that you do with you and It's not a dress watch, I don't think. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's not right, but it feels to me like it is. In the modern era, I accept this as a dress watch, but I think traditionally... It's too sporty for them. Yeah, I just think it's too sporty for it. It's got a small seconds. It's... It's got numeral, I don't know. I don't think I accept it as a dress watch. You can wear this with a tuxedo without a second thought. This is a modern dress watch. And maybe we need to redefine a dress watch, like what we would consider to be a dress watch, because I think maybe the parameters have constricted, at least for me, and perhaps for you as well, in what a dress watch is because of what technology has done. But this is a trench watch. This is a fucking dirty dozen. It's not designed after a dirty dozen, but it does all the same things. It has the same design aesthetics. This is a dirty dozen watch. This is what a fella jumping in to Normandy would be wearing, which is not a dress watch. You know, I think the, I think the biggest thing that Raj has going against it is just its relative newcomer status for being such a young brand. But they showed up and dropped it on the table for sure. I think so. I mean, you, you really have to be, you really have to be deep in your like Brand heritage Allegiances to not just say yep. This is fucking rad I mean when you look at the movement you look what they've done with the case you look at Yeah, it's true. What's next Andrew? I have one last thing to talk about I've deleted all the other links So this is the last thing that we're gonna talk about today Tiffany and company have acquired perhaps one of the most important Tiffany and company relics that exist and they acquired a titanic adjacent pocket watch for 1.97 million dollars this last week maybe a little more than a week ago i'm not really sure how to do numbers At auction and this watch was and then when I say Titanic adjacent I mean that this is a watch that was bought for a survivor of the Titanic sinking by survivors of the Titanic sinking for two million dollars and It makes me a little bit wonder If they're just buying it for like, Hey, this is a part of our heritage. Or if there's maybe something on the horizon, I, every time a brand does something. Oralogy related. I'm always like kind of hopeful they're going to dip their toes in the water. Right, you know we've talked about a handful of jewelry brands in the last year and a half, two years who kind of like dipped their toes in the watchmaking world. Without fully diving into it and. If we're being honest, jewelry, brilliant jewelry, but rams. are the most well-positioned organizations to be making the most baller watches. In kind of the affordable space, right? Yeah. We're talking about companies who have expert metallurgists who can do wild things with cases and bracelets, and we don't need them to be making in-house movements. We just need them to buy acceptable ETA movements. That's all we need. And if they drop it in terrific cases with great crystal work, that's what we want. I'm okay with Solita 200s dropped into some of the most beautiful cases I've ever seen. I would obviously like better. but I'm okay with it. So brands like Tiffany, who are like, I'm kind of interested in my watch history. I'm intrigued by that. I mean, it's, sure, they bought this, so this pocket watch was bought as a gift for a crew member of the Titanic who helped rescue these three passengers. They all put in, they bought him a watch. He carried it, it went to auction, they bought it for, Tiffany bought it for two million. I think the story here is that Tiffany is interested in their watch history. Yeah, I actually don't think this is this is a sign of anything. I want it to be. Let it be. Let let me let me dream, man. Let me dream about more companies who are well suited to be making fucking awesome cases and bracelets. |
| Andrew | Let me dream. |
| Everett | Yeah, I mean, perhaps. |
| Andrew | Let me dream. |
| Everett | I will say that- Also, it's really cool to have pieces of the Titanic being preserved. Not all jewelry companies are similarly yoked in this way. You can't compare Cartier, perhaps, or perhaps Chopard, these companies that have had watched divisions that have been making some of the most beautiful movements on earth for centuries now. No, I know. But with that said, I suspect this is just memorabilia because it is really cool memorabilia. I saw the big piece. It's just the biggest piece of the whole of the Titanic recovered from the ocean floor. Um, It's not in Vegas, I think it's still in Vegas, it's the Deluxor. They have a Titanic exhibit. It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life. It's just this huge chunk of like mangled steel. And it's huge, it's like. I don't know, dimension wise, it's gotta be like 40 feet by 40 feet. But it's called the big piece. The big piece. That's what I call my joke. I call some things that too. But it's the big piece. And I stood, I don't know, like three feet away from it. From the rope. I say that patronizingly. Like the biggest guy on the football team, his name's always tiny. It's the same. Like, oh, the big piece. Anyway. I got one more watch I wanna talk about. I'm not gonna link to it. It's a brand that I've never heard of called Van Doren. It's a watch that's based on a musical system that I've never heard of called Tanberg. It is a watch designed and inspired by retro German hi-fi called Tanberg. Vandoren is a small watch company and, or not, excuse me, not German, Norwegian. Norwegian. Norwegian. That was too hard of a. Everything's Norwegian. There it is. Was that better? That was it. That actually felt good. Yeah, that felt good. Okay, so wait, so wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It's a rectangular cushion case. It's not, I looked at this watch and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no This thing is fucking wicked. The transitions are phenomenal. 46 points. So just, just quickly 46.3 by 38 millimeters, which is. Which is, I think, maybe deceptive. It's a rectangular watch, so it's gonna be big. I think this is gonna be a big-ish watch. Definitely has sort of a TV, like a... No, but a 38, it's gonna be... It's gonna wear probably like a 40... 42? That's right, I think so. I think this is gonna wear like a 40, 42 kind of zone. That's right. Definitely like a bit of Scandinavian vibe to this thing. SW201. Yeah, you have to wear this wearing like a heavy knit fisherman's sweater. But Andrew, look at this thing. So you know how big this thing is. |
| Andrew | I do. |
| Everett | How thick do you think this watch is? 11. 10-6. Okay. It's got this like sort of high top flat crystal that it's not a high top, but it sits above the case. And then you look at the profile on this thing, it's got this blasted metal and this recessed crown and like this really sort of deep and dimensional dial with this really like sort of aggressively sloped rehaut. And by aggressively, I mean shallow rehaut, but the rehaut like, floats around the dial and within the crystal. And I don't know, Andrew, I'm like- What's this conversion chart on the case back? You know, it's a musical, it's an audio, some sort of audio. So those are Hertz designations. But why are they different in Warsaw, Luxembourg, Norway? Don't know, don't know. And Fregerstadt. Don't know. Okay. Don't know, but it's interesting. And if I bought this, I have this conversion chart in the back of my watch, and I think it's interesting. If I bought this watch, it's like having a I would figure that out and slide rule. I have I have a night hawk and a slide rule. And I you know what I do? I get annoyed because it kind of rotates fairly easily. I get annoyed when the when it gets off of the 12 o'clock says rotated back to the clock. I have no idea how to use it, and I'm not going to learn. So here's what I'll say. I saw this watch, I wasn't interested, and then I looked again, and I was like a little bit more interested. Kind of ugly duckling, yeah. And then I just fell in love with this thing. When I look at the dimensions, and I look at the way it's built, and I look at the price, so by the way, this is not a cheap watch, but we're looking at 1600 euro. It's about American money. Yeah, that's right, that's right. We're like one for one right now. You can save a hundred bucks if you pre-order by January 1st. I actually think this is pretty clever. I'm not sure with an SW-201, that price is not low. No, but it's also the finishing on it looks phenomenal. This has very brew feels to it. This is a watch brand that's been clearly inspired by brew. their 70s maybe kind of feel and brew does does square watches they are doing rectangles the color kind of contrasts are different but familiar if you like brew this is a watch that is going to definitely resonate with you. I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. I will just say I looked at some 10 Berg high five systems. I don't really need one, but you're definitely gonna buy one. No, I was gonna say I don't really see. the overlap. Maybe there are specific things that I didn't see that we're not equipped to. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I didn't really see that. So whatever. That is what it is. With that said, I do think this watch is maybe on the high side of what I'd want to pay for this watch. With that said, I think it's really, really cool. It is. I think I have a lot of questions about the manufacturing process to be comfortable with that price point. Because it'd be super easy for them to be making a big nickel. Yeah, that's making Chinese but if this is like high quality manufacturing if the finishing is really as good as it appears to be I think I think they're in the zone even it could still be Chinese and not and meet that metric and it's not it's that's not to me any slight against Chinese manufacturing because we know exactly how many brands all are using Chinese manufacturing to some degree. But my question would be the quality of manufacturing. But I think if the quality of manufacturing is there, if they're using the right people, I think that price point is there. With having only seen renders, I'm not super, I don't know, the jury's out on that price point. But I think there's ways to get to that price point that are really easy. I mean, I don't think it's crazy. It's pretty, it's on the high end of what I'd want to pay for, for this watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Assuming, like you said, assuming, assuming everything's there. But I think everything is there. I think, like, I think brands at this point know where they belong in the spectrum. Andrew, other things. What do you got? You're familiar with it. Damn it, that was gonna be my other thing. No it wasn't. It really was. Oh no, so it's our other thing. It's my other thing, I own it. It's mine, it's at my house. But I bought it. But you brought it and then I got it. So better quickly think up another, other, other, other thing. Okay, I'll think of something. Okay, so you were talking and we're near the microphone thing. I don't care. They know that I'm doing a thing. So every year, I have and I attend a grownup white elephant whiskey exchange. And I recently learned. And it's at the house of a former PGA golfer. That's all I'm gonna say about that. |
| Andrew | I think that's appropriate to say that. |
| Everett | In the last several years, it is at the house of a former PGA golfer. Someone who's very famous, but perhaps not for golfing. Not purely for golfing if you were to Google him you'd find him. We're not gonna disclose his name because we are discreet We're not but we're also not gonna blow him up or Make you think that we are cooler than we are because just our knowledge our knowledge of him makes us cooler So anyway, I go to this I I don't know, this is probably a 10-year-old tradition. Every year at Christmas, we have a white elephant liquor exchange, and it's kind of evolved. |
| Andrew | It started with like, hey, everyone, just bring a bottle. And this person came to our inaugural event, and everyone brought a bottle. |
| Everett | And he picked a bottle. Andrew, I'm gonna take a sip of this. Cheers to me. |
| Andrew | Please do. Cheers, cheers to me. |
| Everett | Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. |
| Andrew | Indeed. |
| Everett | So he pulled out a You can't set your drink down after a cheers, you're right. Oh That's delightful he got a handle of a Vodka and then he didn't come For like eight years because he doesn't drink vodka So anyway, this white elephant gift exchange, it kind of like began and evolved, and now our rules are, it's a $50 floor, and you have to bring a bottle that you'd like to come home with. And it can't be vodka. And it can't be vodka. So we get mezcals and bourbons and scotches and whiskeys, and that's kind of it. We have not in recent years had a rum. But everyone brings something good, because we have 50 dollar floor. You can't really buy something bad under 50 bucks if you follow the rules. Some people come home, some new people come and they don't get re-invited. So anyway, I brought Everett this year. This was his first year, so he felt kind of the pressure of like, oh, this is kind of like a longstanding thing. We're going to a famous person's house Dan Lanning, who is the head coach of the University of Oregon football team, who is the number one football team in these United States right now, got a personal invite from not just one of the people there, right? That's the kind of weird cross-section of our community that we're working with. For the record, Dan Lanning wasn't there. He didn't come, but he received an invite personally from more than one person. And you'll comment on this. It's the strangest cross section of people you've ever been with. Very weird. Yeah. But cool. I liked everybody. Right? Like I'm a cop. So we're talking like from there to PGA golfer, famous guy is our ceiling. And then everything in between. So anyway, at this whiskey exchange, everyone brings a bottle, I brought a perfectly adequate bottle of rooster cock, or chicken cock, pardon me. Chicken cock. Chicken cock, which is a good bottle of whiskey. But I came home with a brand that I'd seen before, tasted before, but wasn't really familiar with, called Barrell, B-A-R-R-E-L-L, which I'm not super sure is how you spell that word. I came home with a bottle of Barrel Armida and looking into it Barrel is a brand who buys barrels from other companies and blends and ages their own concoctions. So most everything they do is limited run. I believe they're also procuring their whiskey. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I mean. They buy it. Yeah. They're buying whiskey and barrels and then yeah. Okay. |
| Andrew | That's what you were saying. They buy their material. |
| Everett | Yeah. They age it on their own and then they package and sell their product. So this particular concoction is bourbon whiskey finished in pear brandy rum and Sicilian Amaro casks Amaro and everything they do is super one-off limited runs This was the most drank tasted and enjoyed bottle that was brought to this whiskey exchange such that I brought an entire bottle of Bourbon to this whiskey exchange And I came home, I have not had any since I've been home. You came home with a little bit less than a half a bottle of this terrific bourbon. And then I got to looking into it because I was like, this is a really fascinating group of people. They have their three people on there about us, which is their founder and CEO, who's kind of like a tech guy, they have a whiskey guy, and then they have a sommelier type person who spent a bunch of time in the world as bartending and mixing and that whole thing. So they have a really well equipped executive team to just buy cool shit, and make it cooler somehow. And this is absolutely fantastic. So we're drinking this neat. Yes. Cause she's been sitting at room temperature next to us while we're talking. And it is absolutely delightful. So if you're looking for kind of like an interesting, interesting, and that's an important thing. This is not a daily driver, an interesting bottle of booze. It's not off-putting in any way. It is 56%, which is cask strength. So it's, it's pretty hot. It's a little hot. But I don't think it's off-putting in any way. I'm gonna agree with your explanation 100%, Andrew. It is interesting. But I think sometimes when I hear that, I think, okay, it's not something I'd wanna drink all the time. I could drink this all the time. This is fantastic. Yes, and and I did buy this bottle and I did bring this bottle and I did say to you at the I could feel some like nerves on you when you were texting like what should I get? Yeah. Yeah, I did say I think I won. I think I won. I brought the least change With that said with that said, you know, you hear those things interesting and it makes you think well You wouldn't want to drink it every day. I I I I think I could drink this every day. Enigma. I forget who makes Enigma. Enigma is interesting. It's a Laphroaig, I think. It's interesting. Yeah. In the way of like, I wouldn't want to drink this every day. Like, I don't think I even want this necessarily every other day, but I want this like- Every once in a while. I want this sometimes. Yeah. Like something that's just kind of unique. It doesn't quite hit, This hits almost the way a daily driver you'd want to hit, but the high notes are higher. Yeah. And it's just like, man, I want, this is like my, this, this is a special occasion. Interesting. Yeah. You know, I do think this is what I would break out. Like somebody, somebody I want to like me comes over to my house. I'm like, Hey, you want a little dram? I got something for ya. I believe I paid 85 for this bottle, which makes it more expensive than the booze I drink every day. But it's certainly not. |
| Andrew | It's in the zone, right? |
| Everett | It's not outrageously priced, that's right. And as little booze as I drink, this could be my main. But no, it can't be, because it's limited run. But I'm not sure that it is, Andrew. I think that these are pretty widely available now. They were harder. Anyway, I'm not sure that it is. The one thing that I think you'd notice about this that might be off-putting over time is the Amaro flavor. So it is really a It's almost like Canadian sweet at the end. Very, very sweet on the end. And so that, I think if you want something a little bit cleaner, that might be off-putting. But other than that, it's just a terrific booze. This was my other thing as well. You didn't tell me you had brought this up, nor did you tell me you had glasses. I'm really delighted to have had another dram of this. Really terrific. And actually, this is my other thing for the weekend. I think this is a fine other thing. As we drink it together, this was, it came a little splash. If you like bourbon, go find yourself a bottle. It's not, I think this is the cheapest bottle that Barrel sells. Yeah, there was a sea something. The seagrass is about the same price. The seagrass was there last year. Also really good. But it was not as well enjoyed. I think the pear brandy, barrel aging process in this like in a way that the Amaro doesn't adds like that Fully like yeah that like really traditional like kind of sweet like What's the like malty sweet? Yeah, I think Irish sweet Like this is this is a fascinating bourbon because it gives you these flavor profiles across like Irish whiskey and American whiskey and bourbon and even brandy in like the pear and. Not sweet in the same way that Jack Daniels is. There's no sickliness to this. And not even sweet in the way like Canadian is and that syrup because there's no syrup to it. None. It's, but, but you get that sweet kind of. Big fullness. Yeah. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | It's one of the most fascinating, like interesting, enjoy, it's a cocktail, almost. But it's not, it's just straight. I've only had this neat. I actually think it would be delightful over an ice cube. I haven't, this is the first I've had of it since I brought it home. Really, really lovely booze. If you drink bourbon or booze at all, find yourself a bottle of Barrel Armada. It's a cocktail in a bottle. Last year, after the whiskey exchange, your other thing was that tequila that I'm blanking on the name of. Oh, what was it? |
| Andrew | Dobell. |
| Everett | Oh yeah, the Dobell, the Maestro Anejo. And that is similar to me in that I just really loved it. Between that Dobell and this Barrel Armida, two of my favorite boozes I've ever had in my life. I've got probably legitimately about $2,000 worth of scotch in my cupboard at home. Well, everyone knows where I live, so there's about to be some break-ins. So I've drank a lot of really good, interesting boozes. This is one of my favorites. You're saying that like I haven't too. No, no, I know you have too. No, I know you have too. I'm just saying. For me personally, for this to be as high, I'm just, I'm exclaiming how good I think this is. I've had a lot of really nice booze and this is probably my favorite bottle I've ever purchased. And I'm sad that I don't have it, but I'll go buy another one, I guess. It's fantastic. It's a cocktail in a bottle and you can just drink and eat. Yeah, I do think that's a touch misleading that that almost seems like a denigration to me, but I know what you're saying. It's There's a lot of things that you can drink neat and really enjoy. Yeah, because I think I think a lot of Bourbons and whiskeys and scotches should be enjoyed neat. Mm-hmm The experience of drinking this neat is really different than any of the other I mean you poured me a finger and it It's gone. It's gone. Yeah pounded it not not on purpose. It's just so good. Yeah, I just can't it's the complexity and I It's not just even the complexity. It's the diversity of flavor profiles that exist within this bourbon because of all the different barrel aging processes is super unique and is really enjoyable. Andrew, for the last time in 2024. Is that really it? That's it. That's our last time. Wow. Happy New Year. Merry Christmas. All the things. We'll talk to you again later. This was fun, man. I want to thank you at home or in your car for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20 to watch clicker podcast. Do me a favor, go to our website. It's watch clicker.com. It's where we post stuff. If you want to check us out on social media, you can do that on Instagram at watch clicker or at 40 and 20 underscore watch clicker. Yeah, we post things there from time to time. If you want to support us, this is the only part of the show notes that you need to look at. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. That's how we keep this thing going. And if you stop doing that, then we'll probably stop doing this. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. We need you there. Just go check it out. And don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Bye-bye. |