Hanhart and Hamilton go Toe to Toe (309)

Published on Wed, 02 Oct 2024 20:36:45 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 in 20 Watch Clicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new and notable watch releases. They cover watches from brands like Formex, Aquastar, Doxa, Timex, Bell & Ross, Hanhart, and more. The hosts analyze the design, specifications, and value propositions of these new releases, offering their opinions and insights.

Beyond watches, they also touch on topics like Everett's recent illness, lawn care, and some interesting tech gadgets. Andrew recommends a new Netflix series about the Menendez brothers, while Everett shares his experience with a CarPlay adapter that allows wireless connectivity in cars with only wired CarPlay.

The hosts wrap up by encouraging listeners to visit their website, follow them on social media, and support the podcast through Patreon.

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Speaker
Andrew	Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20 The Watch Clicker Podcast with your hosts, Andrew. And welcome back, my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett	You know, uh, good. I'm good. Improved, I assume. Improved, yeah. I do believe, Andrew, that I had COVID last week.
Andrew	Maybe it is going around as they say.
Everett	I tested negative. I tested negative, but I read this week that the latest strains of COVID are, whether it's the tests or the strains itself are testing, you're getting false negatives. Uh, there's a higher prevalence of false negatives. Uh, and my symptoms were weird. I never really got like, upper respiratory infection symptoms. I was stuffy and congested. My sinuses were stuffy and congested, but I was just foggy and tired, which has kind of been my routine with COVID. And, you know, I couldn't really work. I couldn't concentrate. I was sleeping a lot. One day I got a headache that made me feel pukey. It was definitely symptoms that are aligned with COVID. So I think it's possible I had an undiagnosed COVID bout, um, but it was pretty bad, man. It was like, you seemed fine. It was like, well, I know you said that when you came over and I was like, that's hilarious because I feel so bad when you came over to get the card, you were like, you look fine. And I was like, uh, yeah, no, I mean, there was no way I could have, I could have recorded a, a show. I mean, I could have sat here, but, um, it would not have been, it would not have been a good show.
Andrew	So we had a great show. Me and Frank hung out and we talked about some of the watches that deserve a 50th anniversary. It's a modern era watches.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	A couple of cheats. I, I took a, I took pages from your book and cheated quite a bit.
Everett	I did hear, I did hear a couple of your cheats. I think that that's fun. I appreciate you doing that in my honor. Um, No, I thought the show was terrific. You know, I, I did the editing and the publishing of that show. So I, I wound up listening to, I didn't listen to all of it, but I did listen to, I'd say about 75% of it. And I thought it was terrific. I thought, um, I thought you guys had some interesting picks. There were some good picks. I think so. And I, I didn't, you guys both surprised me. Um, I think Frank and I, tend to have fairly at least consistent, um, watch opinions. You and I obviously differ, I think perhaps in an affected way, uh, over the course of the last six years. With that said, uh, none of y'all know what we actually think, right? Uh, I was actually really impressed with both of the watches you guys picked. I thought you did a great job. That was a fun show. And thank you Frank for, for stepping in.
Andrew	Yeah, thanks for hanging out and taking a baby break and kicking it with me.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Saving the day as it were. Cause I can tell you listening to me yammer for an hour, that would have been really unpleasant.
Everett	Yeah. I think, you know, that time we both had COVID, Will did that, uh, he did a really good job.
Andrew	Yeah, we were both fucked up. I forgot about that. Cause I was, uh, I was talking to Sam about it before the show. I was like, Everett's going to miss his first show. But I forgot about that. Uh, the dual COVID episode where we were both like dead, D-E-D dead.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. So yeah, that was my second missed show, uh, which I'm okay with. It doesn't, it didn't make me feel, there was no sadness or anything. In fact, I was too sick to feel sad. I was just like, you were just, you threw a book at me. Get this out of here. Yeah. I mean, it was really, it was like what Wednesday morning and I was just like, there's no fucking way. It's just not possible.
Andrew	So that's okay.
Everett	Oh, here we are a week later. I feel fine.
Andrew	I feel fine. And you look the same.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. Uh, my lawn is coming in. Andrew, I did overseed. I did thatch drill seed and then overseed. my lawn. What? It's been about 11 days, 12 days, something like that.
Andrew	You had somebody do it. I think that's important to differentiate.
Everett	I did have someone do the thatching and aerating and the drill seating. And the drill seating, that's right. So I didn't do, I was going to rent equipment to do that and I decided against that just because it doesn't actually It doesn't save you any money. It doesn't save you any money.
Andrew	And you need a trailer to like go pick it up and you need to haul it back and forth and just pay somebody who already has the equipment. That's right.
Everett	So for four... Or buy it yourself. For $400, I had the whole lawn aerated, thatched and overseeded. And it was about, well, It was about... Did they do the back too? They did not. I didn't have them do the back. Uh, it was very ugly, Andrew.
Andrew	It was mucky. It looked like I just, I just top dressed my yard and it looked like my yard.
Everett	It reminded me of the fairgrounds after a fair, you know. After a rodeo. Right. When everything clears out. I was like, Oh my God. Uh, but now it's all, you know, what, 12 days later and I've got, I got grass. I mean, it's still, It's like patchy baby grass, but it's coming in everywhere.
Andrew	It's post hair plug. It hasn't yet fully, fully germinated and grown up.
Everett	I think I'm about 10, maybe 10 days away from golf course. You're close. Yeah. Maybe two weeks.
Andrew	And I top dressed my front yard today. I had a yard of, uh, turf soil delivered, which when you, when I read the ingredients of it, it was like it, It was a weird ingredient list. There's shrimp proteins in there. Kelp.
Everett	Yeah, kelp is a big one in raw maintenance.
Andrew	There was one other kind of like... Huh. I don't recall what it was. It doesn't matter. Mushroom compost? Oh, guano. No, it was guano. That makes sense. Like bad guano. Yeah. Yeah, cool. In their ingredient list and I was like, that's all over my hands, man. I'm like, gross.
Everett	Do they sterilize it or no?
Andrew	I'd expect not because it's dirt. Uh, so I top dressed my whole front yard. I was out there with my leveling rake and my wheelbarrow and top dressed and seated.
Everett	And you put flagstones in your front yard, which I've been asking you to do for two and a half years.
Andrew	I did. And I don't like it. Uh, but I kind of have to, cause I have to park the trailer right up against the edge of the driveway. And there's no, there's no walkway to my front door, but for the driveway. And I sent a picture to my wife of like, I just moved, you know, most of a yard of soil into the front yard. It's a watering, it's seeded. The front yard looks terrible and it's about to look great. And she goes, how are we going to get to the front door?
Everett	Got to install Everett's flagstones. I think you need fewer of them. I think.
Andrew	I agree. You need like four or five. I need different shape. I need, I just need to go get some square ones, dig out a little path. Sand them and drop them in. But that was what I could do today so there weren't muddy feet coming into my house. Because those flagstones existed in my curb strip for whatever reason. I don't know. There were some weird decisions made by the previous owners of this home. Like, as an example, we had a perfectly functioning trash compactor. The residents had a perfectly functioning trash compactor. They didn't like it. They removed it. threw it away, and then didn't fill the void. Yeah. I still haven't filled the void, so there's not a lot of trash to be talked, but that was a decision that they made.
Everett	Trash compactors are weird because they're so nice to have. I've got one in my house. I love it, but they are very expensive.
Andrew	And the one that matches all of our appliances has been on back order for three years.
Everett	It's one of those things that...
Andrew	I can get a not matching one, or I can just put a wine cooler in there.
Everett	I think that's what I'm going to do. You can get one that you could just put a cupboard on. It's one of those things that I've never had before. I've never considered getting. I love that I have, and I wouldn't want to do without, but if that broke, I'm not sure I'd get a new one.
Andrew	Yeah, but what would you do? I mean, there's now a void in your cabinetry.
Everett	Yeah, I put in a wine cooler. That's what I'm going to do. Andrew, we're not here to talk about trash compactors, flagstones, yard maintenance or anything of the sort. Rather, we're here to talk about watches and watches we should talk about, because once again, once again, tis the season. Once again, we've got too many watches to talk about.
Andrew	And we're not going to get to them all. It's fine, because we're in the I know I initially thought I was like, oh, we're kind of in that like lull watches and wonder. Oh, no, not watch. Geneva watch days. We're in like a lull. of things. And then, you know, I get taken into it and I'm like, oh, we're not in a lull. There's some things happening. And I'm going to start because I always start.
Everett	You're going to start because you want to take one of the ones we both picked.
Andrew	Is that the case? I don't know. I'm about to surprise you. I want to start with the Formex Stratos UTC. And this watch intrigued me immediately when I saw it because it looks Super Formex and not all at once. This is like a 70s GMT, small seconds, but not small seconds. It's a chronograph. Like there's so much happening that you kind of can't wrap your mind around it. And it doesn't immediately look like Formex. Right, you see a top down picture of this and this is not immediately to me a Form X watch. And then you look at it for a moment and it is all the Form X things. It's super tool-y, it's utilitarian, it's well designed, it's proportionally perfect. The color scheme on it is great. And it's different. It's different from what I think most of the Formex catalog is, right? We have a chronograph GMT, which is in and of itself pretty interesting. And it's coming in at Formex prices, right? It is, oh, hang on. I scrolled past it. About 4,000 bucks.
Everett	Yeah, these are spending.
Andrew	On a bracelet or on a strap, it's using the ETA 2892 movement with an added Dubois Duprat GMT functionality to it. I'm not super sure how they're rebuilding and retooling this movement because it's really unique to take a GMT movement, add a chronograph functionality, 41mm case, Here's the real excitement about all this functionality in a single traveler's watch. It's 12 millimeters thick. We have a chronograph GMT at 12 millimeters, 46 and a half lug to lug. This is like a compact little like, this is like carrying like a snub nose 380 in your pocket, right? Like this is just packed full of functionality, super compact, thin for both of these complications and it looks like it should be a vintage watch, right? Like this, that's, this is straight out of the seventies when I looked at it, which is why it kind of didn't seem Formex to me. Formex is so super modern, super utilitarian, super tooly, like very overbuilt. And this is not that when I look at it, especially when you put it on leather, like this is just dope.
Everett	Yeah, I love it, Andrew. So you said something which is maybe not accurate, but I think what you meant was, so you called this a chronograph, GMT. This is not a chronograph. Oh, but it does look like a chronograph, right? And it doesn't look like a chronograph necessarily on the dial, but it's got these pushers. It's got a pusher at two o'clock, and a pusher at four o'clock, which makes it look like a chronograph, but rather it's this DEPRAS UTC, this traveler complication that they've integrated, which is really pretty clever. So this actually operates a little bit like what I understand the Patek Aquanaut 5164 operates, which is to say that it, um, It allows you to use the pusher to jump the local hour hand backwards and forwards in one hour increments. And then on the left side of the case, there is another pusher for quick adjusting the date, which is convenient in a traveler's watch. This is really a pretty dynamic watch that Form X has come up with here. I'm kind of wild about this thing, Andrew.
Andrew	Uh, that's what I mean when it's like a, it's like you top down, it doesn't seem like Formex and you dive into it and it's straight Formex. It's like how much technology and how much cool shit can we push into this watch, which is very Formex.
Everett	You know, I actually think it does look very Formex. My initial reaction when I saw this is, oh man, that is Formex all around. Um, but I think I understand what you're saying. The, the bezel, I, I think I'm not crazy about the bezel. So the bezel is a stainless steel bezel, and the 24-hour time is on the bezel, so it actually gives you, what, triple time, perhaps. I don't... It was. So it's stainless steel, and it's got a resin inlay that's been polished back to reveal the stainless steel digits. I don't love that look. I think that they could have done any number of things with this that I would have liked better.
Andrew	I think that holds that 70s feel of the rest of the watch. It does. That case shape is like straight 72.
Everett	I'm with you there, and I'm okay with it. But with that said, the case and the angles and the way the bracelet joins up with the watch, this feels very Form X to me. It's more expensive than other Form X, but it's
Andrew	It's doing more shit.
Everett	Got a crazy movement. Um, this thing is really fucking cool.
Andrew	Uh, can I ask how you feel about the fonts?
Everett	I don't like them. I don't like any of the fonts here. Um, which weird.
Andrew	Yeah. And to be fair, I don't super like them either. Cause you take this like very seventies inspired and true to that case shape and angles design. and incorporate like a 2006. Yeah. Kind of bubble font. Yeah. Dial font to it. And I'm with you.
Everett	It's, it's almost like a seventies track and field font anyway.
Andrew	No, no, no. On, on the bezel. I like the bezel font. I, it's the dial font that I'm not with.
Everett	Yeah. I, I actually don't love, yeah, I don't love the fonts. With that said, I do really enjoy the watch. I enjoy what they're doing here. The other thing I noticed is that this watch looks like it's going to be really big, and it's just not. It's 41 millimeters wide for a square case, so it's probably going to wear a little chunky. 12 millimeters thick with what they're doing here is kind of crazy. This thing's rad.
Andrew	It's short lug to lug, too. What, 46 and a half? That's a little squat. Yeah.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. It's going to wear really well. Is it 100 meters of water resistance, Andrew? Yeah, 100 meters of water resistance. With this multi-layered stainless steel case, it's got some really dynamic stuff on the case, too. I think you almost have to give it a second look to really appreciate it. I'm going to complain about the end link. I think that the end link is not as well machined as it should be. For for for this bracelet, if they had machined that end link just a little bit better, they needed to make it just a flat link.
Andrew	There's there's no need for a faux five link transitioning into a three link bracelet. That's a silly decision.
Everett	I'm fine with the ridge. I'm fine with the ridge, but they should have gone straight across with the ridge and they should have done the actual machining at the ridge should have been nicer. That's that's my position on this. That's a mess for me.
Andrew	I accept your position. I don't like the faux five link machining on that end link. Going into a three link bracelet, like why?
Everett	I don't think you need the faux, that engraved bit on the oyster to line up with the oyster. I don't think you need that bit. I don't mind the ridge though. The ridge I think is okay. So if they had just maintained that ridge flat across and had the edge of the ridge be sharper. Anyway, this is really very ticky tacky stuff here.
Andrew	But we you know when you gotta find reasons to complain about Formax you you gotta get deep.
Everett	That's a very cool watch probably the coolest watch release of the week I would say. Uh maybe. I think you I think you started. Did I use Slurp your pick? Well you you did and that's okay uh but I I do think that that's probably the coolest thing we're going to talk about today. Actually there's one other thing we're going to talk about that I'm going to wait to to talk about that I think is really, really epic. I'm going to hold it for the end. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, Andrew, or at least for a while. But I am going to talk about something that I do think is cool.
Andrew	Aquastar. Oh, I knew that this was going to be what you were choosing next.
Everett	Aquastar released a chronograph this these last couple of weeks, and it's actually a chronograph. So Aquastar is the zombie brand run by Rick Murray.
Andrew	Crazy, we're talking about him in back-to-back weeks together.
Everett	That's right. Synchron.
Unknown	What?
Andrew	That's why we've talked about Aquastar, because we've talked about Synchron.
Everett	Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Aquastar does these just absolutely beautiful skin divers. They're expensive, but they're very nice. You know, the Aquastar was a one of the Jacques Cousteau brands. Anyway, old Aquastars are a thing of beauty, and the new ones really are very faithful, I'd say. So they introduced, this is the 60th anniversary of a watch that they released, unsurprisingly, 60 years ago, called the Airstar. Now, the Airstar, you'd be forgiven for thinking the original Airstar 60 years ago, you'd be forgiven for saying, this looks a lot like an Aqua Star because it does. With that said, it is a chronograph and given the name, this was definitely targeted at pilots. This was a pilot's chronograph, but it's got that H case, that Skin Diver H case that you'd expect the Skin Diver, um, It's got an internal tachometer, bi-directional 60-minute bezel, so it's doing a lot of things. They've re-released the Air Star in not a one-to-one, which I kind of like. It's a full DLC watch. It is an H-Case, what I'd call a Skin Diver-style H-Case. Still a 60-minute bi-directional rotating bezel, an internal tachometer scale. And it's all black. It's all black. It is. Polished black dial, DLC dial, or excuse me, polished black DLC bezel and sort of a circular brushed top flank on this H case. Gosh, man, this thing's pretty cool.
Andrew	Except that it looks like a can of tuna. Oh, well. I understand it's a 7700 series case for movement But holy dog shit, man. 16 millimeters thick. Yeah. So 39 millimeter case, 49 lug to lug, 16 thick, 14 without the crystal. But that is, you look at the profile of this and this is a tuna can.
Everett	Yeah, no, it is. It is a pretty thick watch. Um, I do believe this is, it has 200 meters of water resistance though. It does. Um, There is one other issue. It's a 21 millimeter lug width, which, whatever. Why? I think this thing is pretty cool. It's a, it's a beautiful watch. And I think it's actually probably going to wear fairly, fairly well. Um, but it is, yeah, it's a bit of a chunky watch and that's okay. These are 1890, 1,890 during the launch period with, a $2,790 retail price if they fail to sell it. They're only making 300 of these. I think at $1,890, this is a terrific value. Yeah, you're in the zone. I think at $2,790, it's an okay value. I think it's a miss at that price point, but I Yeah, it doesn't go all the way to miss for me, but it is definitely less attractive at almost three grand. But at under $2,000 for a 7753 from Aquastar, I think this is pretty cool.
Andrew	I mean, that's the price point they should be at, is that $2,000 to, I don't know, $2,200, $2,300 zone. Because it's a great watch. Everything about it's cool.
Everett	Yeah, I think so. I think so. It'd be cooler with a DLC bracelet. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Although the age case you black rubber is good.
Andrew	Yeah. But it'd be it'd be cooler with a DLC bracelet. They put a shark mesh on there.
Everett	Yeah. No, it would look great. A DLC shark mesh would look great. That would be fucking cool. Yeah. This thing's pretty cool. Yeah. Sixteen millimeters is like this.
Andrew	This vintage Aquastar example that they're that they've used in the photographs is like perhaps the best preserved vintage watch I've ever seen.
Everett	Yeah. The Vint Dad. So we're looking at a Fratello article that you will be able to click on in the show notes. It's that is a absolutely stunning watch.
Andrew	Also, I don't super dig that when I think about like a 60th anniversary When I think 60 years ago, I'm like, oh, from the 40s. Nope. Not. Not. Not. No, we're, we're getting, we're like pushing the 70s at this point.
Everett	Yeah. I mean, before too long, Andrew, things are going to be doing their 50th anniversary for things that happened in my life. Yeah. That is horrifying. And it's not that far away. I mean, I'm 42, right? So it's not, I mean, it's not like next year, but it's going to happen.
Andrew	No, but you're going to, you're going to be in the, like the decade. Yeah.
Everett	There's going to be some fucking thing. I remember from my kid and it's going to be like, Oh, he man celebrating its 50th anniversary. I'm going to be like, fuck my life.
Andrew	Yeah, no, I don't super dig that. The 50th anniversary of Thundercats. Cause you're like, Oh, 60 year anniversary. But the air star is like, I wonder why they're like doing like kind of spacey aeronautics from You know, the 40s, that's kind of weird. 1964. Right. Hmm. Don't super dig that. You know what I do dig though? I dig the things that Doxa is doing right now. Oh, interesting. Doxa's doing some things.
Everett	Before you move on, before you move on. The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I don't want to talk about that. The comic book started in 1987, excuse me. Which means, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will be celebrating their 40th anniversary in three years, Andrew. Yeah, I don't super like that at all. That's insane. Okay. I don't like that. Carry on, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Andrew	I don't know why you would say things like that.
Unknown	Go for it.
Andrew	Are you just trying to be hurtful? Yeah, well, I mean. Like to yourself, to me, to everyone listening. I am what I am. Now you're Popeye. Probably celebrating his hundredth anniversary this year. Probably. I don't have to worry about it.
Everett	I don't remember, but Popeye wasn't new when I was a kid.
Andrew	No, but it was a thing.
Everett	Yeah.
Andrew	Uh, okay. So, uh, I say I like what Doxa has been doing cause Doxa up until, I don't know, fairly recently has been a brand of three watches. nine colorways and that's what we do. Every once in a while we release a Jacques Cousteau. We do a special edition and that's just kind of our thing. Two years ago, two years ago, they introduced a new, wholly new watch into their catalog. They do special editions all the time, but this special edition I think is really interesting. They are doing a limited run beautiful icy blue azure for a Caribbean retailer, the art of time. They're doing a 50 hundred something in that neighborhood, a super short run of a boutique purchase only colored way for this Caribbean watch retailer. I think it's super cool. It's, it's, not a color that I'm super into. It's a really common color. It's this icy blue, uh, Azure as it's being called in the sub 200, which is their newest skew in their catalog and their newest watch in their catalog. Um, and I think that's super cool. It's interesting to me to see Doxa kind of dabbling in what can we do to keep up with the ever-changing market because Doxa is not Rolex. Doxa can't have nine watches in a handful of colorways and just chug on along. They got to do some creative stuff. And I think the special editions, the Jacques Cousteau's, the maps, the pits. Yeah. They did a Clancy, didn't they? It's not Clancy. It's Clive Kessler. Yeah. Kessler. Yeah. Uh, They're doing these kind of- I mean, shit, maybe they did Clancy too, but not that I know of. They're doing these very niche watches, and I think doing something like this is really interesting. I think we're gonna see some cool stuff happen in the Doxa orbit in the next couple years. Not necessarily to modernize or to keep up, but to just remain relevant. Because you can't just have three watches in nine colorways and stay competitive. And that's what Dachshund needs to do is they need to stay competitive. There's not enough people buying prospect dive watches at the two thousand to three thousand dollar price point to remain relevant and competitive. Yeah. And I'm interested to see like this. This is an indicator of some things to come. Right. They're not just doing a weird one-off limited edition. Hey, in-house, we think this is really cool. It's kind of related to us. They're, they're, they're branching out to like, oh, we do like dive watches in the Caribbean is where people dive because it's warm enough to dive comfortably. This is interesting. I think this is an indicator and especially in the 200, right? It's their new hot shit, affordable, I mean, this is, it's priced aligned with the 200. This is what they're doing to get non-watch people, like people who don't care about the prospect, people who don't care about the legacy, into Doxa.
Everett	Yeah, you know, it's interesting. You said a thing that Doxa was three watches just a few years ago, and I think that that's actually fairly accurate without being perfectly accurate. But I actually, you know, the sub 200, I'm not a huge fan of this watch. I don't like the way it looks. I don't, I don't dislike the way it looks, but it just doesn't feel like a Doxa to me. It's not, but it's got some interesting, but I think, you know, Rick speak of Rick Murray, you know, Rick Murray was sort of instrumental in sort of bringing Doxa back. in the late 90s, I believe. Um, you know, I think partially because of his, uh, experience with the Clive Cussler novels and, uh, just, you know, like this watch needs to come back. And he worked with the Jenny family. Uh, Rick Murray got sort of some sort of boxed out a few years ago. It was a little dramatic. There was some like tea and some shade perhaps as a result of this thing, it winds up being a nothing burger. Synchron lives on, Rick Murray lives on, Doxa lives on. But I think that Doxa has done a good job at becoming a bigger company, a more nimble company. I don't know if I'd go with nimble yet.
Andrew	They're dabbling.
Everett	More nimble. More nimble. They released a whole new SKU, yeah. They've done a good job sort of scaling up the business without it, thus far, without it getting irky, right? So I'm with you. This is okay. This is fine. This is a beautiful watch. I did think, I said, well, this is a limited release collaboration with a St. Martin retailer. What in the world? I guess St. Martin is in the Caribbean, but it's part of the kingdom of the Netherlands.
Andrew	Yeah. It's Dutch. That whole region is like still controlled by weird empires. Like the only, the only remaining like imperialism is in the Caribbean.
Everett	It's a pretty watch, man. It's definitely an attractive watch.
Andrew	Probably. It's a great colorway. I just, what excites me is that it it's, An indicator that Doc says maybe dipping their toes in the water to like, do some shit that isn't kind of unusual. Clive Kessler, Jacques Cousteau limited runs.
Everett	Uh, Timex. Ooh, do me. Timex last year released a collaboration with James Brand. When it came out, um, everybody agreed. that it was a very cool watch. What it was was a 9075, Miura 9075 titanium GMT watch with a sort of Explorer II bezel and this fun sort of angular chopped case. Beautiful. Everybody said this is way too expensive and James Morand is kind of weird. And so it's probably not going to sell. It sold out immediately, and you couldn't get one.
Andrew	At market price. You could get one, but you're going to hurt for it.
Everett	So it was neither too expensive, nor was it a bad collaboration. With that said, Tynix just a couple weeks ago released a watch that looks very, very similar, not identical. Suspiciously similar. Suspiciously similar, which costs a little bit less money, $575 instead of $750, and is not a James Brown collaboration. Rather, this is just a regular release in Timex's catalog. This is a grade 2 titanium GMT with a quote-unquote Japanese GMT movement. What that means is almost certainly a Seiko NH34A movement. giving you a second time zone. The NH34 is a little bit less desirable, I'd say, than the 9075. It's certainly cheaper. It's very cool. This is grade two titanium, power reserve 41 hours, 41 millimeter case, automatic GMT function, 200 meters of water resistance. It's fucking rad. Yes.
Andrew	It's rad. This is what we've been asking for from Timex for the last six years. Timex is not just dabbling in the affordable cool shit category. They have fully stepped up and are filling the Seiko upmarket void.
Everett	It's awesome. This is a fucking awesome watch. This is dope.
Andrew	If it was, if it had a bracelet, it'd be even better. It doesn't. And that's fine. It's fine. I accept.
Everett	I don't like, but I accept, you know, it's 11 and a half millimeters.
Unknown	Hmm.
Andrew	This is dope. This is what this this is what we've we all collectively have been asking for of Timex since their reintroduction of the automatic movements since them dabbling in like cool watch people shit. This is it. We were here. Timex is here and Timex is going to continue to be doing cool shit. Yeah.
Everett	Yeah.
Andrew	This is cool. This is this is the charcuterie board. There is more to come. You say charcuterie?
Unknown	How else would you say it? Charcuterie? That's not how you say it.
Everett	Charcuterie is pretty fantastic, too. That's like a smorgasbord of coochie. That's not it.
Andrew	That's that's what you want. All right.
Everett	I really like that. Hold on. Hold on. We're not going to move. Hold on. I'm not done. I really like the dial. The dial is delicious. Yes. I really like the GMT hand. This big sort of square block.
Andrew	Uh, it almost looks like a second hand. Like they disguise it really well because it is the same shape as their second hand.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Uh, I like how blocky it is. I, I just, sorry, I'm done, but I just, the colors are great.
Andrew	It's a black dial, it's white loom, there's no faux-tina. The only color is the GMT hand and the GMT acknowledgement at the six o'clock, and they're in yellow, and it's a great contrast without being, we made a GMT.
Everett	Does Boulder make a bracelet for the venture?
Andrew	I think they do. I don't know if they do. And Boulder uses grade 2. The color match might be there.
Everett	I think they do. In fact, I'm looking at one right now. 20 millimeter lug size.
Andrew	I wonder. It might be a touch lighter. I think the blasting is a little different. The date hand or the date window on this is like invisible. You just have a visible date. This is this is far and away my favorite Timex release of the year. It will remain so. Timex is doing such cool shit like they've they've they saw the vacuum. They were a little bit slow to fill it.
Everett	Well, they still haven't filled the vacuum. They're just sort of poking things into the hole.
Andrew	They're plugging it. They're plugging the vacuum. Andrew, what's next? Okay, next up for me.
Everett	The company that caused the vacuum. I hate all the rest of your picks, Justine. I hate you.
Andrew	I don't even like you coming to my house once a week. That's super rude. It's just the reality of the place that we live. The Seiko Presage GMT Urushi Lacquer Dial SPB447. So this is a lacquered dial presage and it is gorgeous. I should buy one right now because this is When I saw the first top-down picture of this watch, I was stunned. I didn't even click on the link. I just looked at it. Clicked on the link, did all the zooming, did all the looking. This is this gorgeous lacquered black dial, white markers, gold GMT hand, gold second hand, gold minute markers on your minute track. It is absolutely stunning. It's a 6R54 movement, 20 millimeter leather strap. I don't want to brace it on this. 40.2 case, 12.4 thick, 48 lug to lug. Like this is just all of the presage things that we've always liked, right? Like the presage line is just phenomenal all the time. Every watch you see is just pure sex. And this is the pinnacle. I don't know how they beat this not guilt, guilt watch.
Everett	This is just it. It's a beautiful watch. Do you know, do you know anything about Arushi lacquer, Andrew?
Andrew	Very little. It's, by the way, it's 1850 euros, so six bucks based on the current exchange rates.
Everett	Arushi is a sap from the Arushi tree, and they make this natural lacquer from it. And the way it gets applied, so they use Arushi in a number of things, Felton Pens being one of them. So the nicest Felton Pens in the world are painted with Arushi lacquer. they it requires you to apply this lacquer this natural lacquer to a like a hard surface and then basically wipe it all the way off allow it to cure and then polish it and so it takes to to paint something to to lacquer something with a rushi takes months right because you can't you can't hurry it it just takes the amount of time it takes and it takes hundreds and hundreds, maybe not hundreds, dozens of very, very thin layers. It just takes forever to do this. Look, look, this has the same movement as the Alpinist GMT. So you've got this handmade Arushi artist, you know, like a genuine craftsman has painted this and then you chuck it in a, check it on a six hour 54 and a 12 and a half millimeter case. Like, I don't know, man, this is gorgeous. I don't know. This is on a six hour 54.
Andrew	They could do better. I don't disagree, but they did it. They did it with the Arushi dial.
Everett	It's got it's got a maybe maybe a movement with like visible machining marks with an Arushi lacquer.
Andrew	I don't get it. Don't care. They spent the money on the dial. It's it's fucking gorgeous.
Everett	How much more money does Seiko need to spend to give me a dope movement? Like, I mean, could they give?
Andrew	This is not a limited release. This is just a new available release.
Everett	I mean, could you make this $2,500 and give me something other than a 6R54? It's got a 6R movement in it. I don't care. Fuck you, Seiko. I don't care. I agree with you, Andrew, that it's gorgeous. I cannot.
Andrew	Put your own movement in it. I cannot. This is gorgeous. I don't disagree with any of your positions.
Everett	I think it's a beautiful watch. I pulled it up. It was on my list. I had a six hour 54 and I was like, you have got to be fucking joking.
Andrew	I'm fine with this watch with a like a display movement in it that doesn't even run. I don't need to, I don't need to tell the time on this watch. I just like the way it looks.
Everett	It's got a six hour 54. Uh, Hamilton re-released the Murph in 38 millimeters. They sure did. Uh, it's so. With a bracelet. They've done this before. The Murph came out. So when the Murph first came out, it was 42 millimeters. It's really cool watch, but it's just a little too big. They released it in 38. Everybody's like, yes, it doesn't have the Morse code on the seconds hand. Who cares? Uh, This watch is terrific. They finally did a bracelet for it and the bracelet's great. The bracelet's great. They also released this with a white grain dial. I don't know.
Andrew	I don't like the white dial. I don't either. I usually do, but this isn't, this is a miss for me.
Everett	I mean, it's not like, it's not bad. It's fine, but whatever. But it's really cool that this finally has a bracelet.
Andrew	I think that's, that's it. That's what they needed. The Murph has always needed a bracelet.
Everett	Now, I will say the white dial has this like, sort of, faux-tina. It's fine.
Andrew	It's fine. It's not exactly faux-tina either. It's sort of the in-between. It's neither committed to faux-tina, nor is it not faux-tina.
Everett	They're creating contrast with the white dial with the tina. Um, it's fine.
Andrew	Yeah. And Tina's not doing them any favors here.
Everett	It's pretty, it's, it's not ugly. Um, just keep them white. It's got an H 10. The bracelet's good. This is not a spectacular bracelet. It's, but it's a Hamilton bracelet, which means it's going to be good. Yeah. You're going to like it. Yeah. It's going to be good. You're going to like it. And it looks really good. It fits the watch. It's 1100 bucks. Uh,
Andrew	Are you ready for my next thing? That's all I have to say about it. We have a new cocktail time to nighttime in Tokyo and it is gorgeous.
Unknown	Yeah. Beautiful.
Andrew	It is a, So as per the Cocktail Times, they pair with a bar to kind of recreate the feel, look, and idea of these cocktails. They partnered with a bar called Star Bar in Ginza. And the owner, Hisashi Kishi, who of note was the first to the first bartender to receive the Contemporary Master Craftsman Award in Japan, which is meaningful. And I don't know what it takes for a bartender to get there. But he got there. So this is a recreation of nighttime in Tokyo dial. It comes in two sizes. It is a 30 millimeter and a 40 and a half millimeter. And this dial is like, it looks like a dark black cocktail with two ice cubes kind of slowly melting into it as viewed from the top down.
Everett	Yeah, I think, I think it's actually like sort of a reflection. I think that it's like a, uh, an exposed silver grain under a smoky black dial. So I believe the reflection changes as you move the watch. I could be wrong on that. I haven't seen these in person.
Andrew	No, I think so. Cause it's, it's got gold, uh, gold markers, gold hands. And as you look at all the pictures, the, it changes throughout and it's just lovely. It looks like ice, but the ice texture, kind of migrates around on the dial. And these, I mean, they're, they're cocktail times, right? They're well, you know, they're 650 bucks. They're, they're both limited.
Everett	I actually think the 30, the 30 millimeter is the more interesting of these two. Um, it's probably too small for me to wear with, with that said, it has a, it's crystal. It's got a hard Lex crystal. that it looks like it's like a diamond set bezel or stone set bezel, but it's not. The Hardlex crystal has been cut on the underside of the crystal to give it sort of like a whiskey glass appearance. Like engraving, yeah. Yeah, it's like a cut crystal, Hardlex crystal. Now, Hardlex, not a terrific material and a box Hardlex crystal I think is problematic With that said, this is a stunning, it is really a stunning thing. I've never seen this before. No, it's new, but it's, it's the cocktail time. No, I mean, I've never seen that like cut that a crystal cut like this on the underside is what I mean.
Andrew	No, I, I've not either. And I'm not sure that we will again, cause I think there's probably some inherent problems with it.
Everett	Yeah. I think, I mean, I think doing this in hard Lex is a problem in and of itself. You know, I, I like hard Lex. I think it's a cool material, but it, scratches.
Andrew	Is this a dress watch? It's designed to be a dress watch that you're not going to, you're going to have to baby it. Yeah. You're going to baby it. And it's 650 bucks. So it's like, even if you don't, it's, it's not catastrophic. Yeah. But also no one's wearing the 30 millimeter. I think, I wish they would have included that in both the 30 and the 40.
Everett	Yeah. Maybe it's a cost thing. I don't know. It's a, it's a gorgeous watch.
Andrew	Cause in the 40, I think I'd buy it.
Everett	All right, Andrew, I've got two more watches I would like to talk about. One of them quickly, well, both of them quickly, but I can split them up. I'm not saying I won't. The first is a Cabot watch company, actually just CWC, but formerly Cabot Watch. Do you know anything about Cabot? I know some things about. So CWC was started in the 70s by a fellow named Ray Meller. I think Ray And I'm probably pronouncing that wrong, sorry, Ray. I think Ray Miller was the like brand, he was like the brand guy, like Mike Pearson, perhaps, for Hamilton in the United Kingdom in the 70s. And like many, many businesses, Hamilton sort of shuttered in the 70s, in the late 70s, and really discontinued its business. Ray Miller was like, well, these watches are cool and we have these contracts. We have government contracts, MOD contracts. Yeah, we're stuck. You gotta deal with us. And so he started a business named after the explorer, John Cabot, to make watches to sell to the MOD and also, um, military surplus suppliers and, um, and like press, like embedded press, he was making institutional watches. They released this week, I think kind of a weird watch, but I like it. It's weird in a way. I like it. This is a watch that looks vintage, but it's not. So what this is is a asymmetric military style, um, chronograph watch. They call it the 6BB-WR. This is a rendition of a classics pilot chronograph from the 70s. A RAF watch that Hamilton actually made an example of. Beautiful, beautiful watch. And you can still find these Hamilton MOD pilots chronographs. They're very cool, but they're pricey. This is a very similar watch. It is a, um, but it's not a vintage watch. Most of, so this watch has been remade by a couple of companies. Hamilton has remade this. Um, and they tend to be kind of small, diminutive and really sort of antique-y. This is not that. It is, vintage in its aesthetic they use the vintage cwc it's got a big broad arrow it's very simple text but if you get close to this thing it's very modern it's very modern which is why i say it's not really it's kind of weird it you'd expect this watch to be sort of a dainty repro type of thing instead this is a 42 millimeter asymmetric fixed strap bar Chronograph. Fully modern chronograph with 100 meters of water resistance and a fantastic automatic Solita SW510 movement with 63 hours of power reserve, Naviflex mainspring, 28.8 vibrations. And it's been adjusted to run probably something close to Costco, but they're not saying it's got cost.
Andrew	It's probably there. It would just be expensive to call it so.
Everett	This is a watch that you can wear underwater, a chronograph that you can wear underwater in any environment, fixed lug bars. This is a working chronograph.
Andrew	This is a spec 1963.
Everett	This thing is really freaking cool, man. It's big. I think it's 42 and a half. I think it's probably too big, but you know what?
Andrew	It's not 42 and a half. It's eight.
Everett	1,875 pounds, meaning 2,230 euros, meaning probably about 23, 2400 bucks.
Andrew	It's a little thick. It's 15 millimeters thick.
Everett	Yeah, it's a fucking automatic chronograph. They're all thick and it's got 100 meters of water resistance and a screw down crown. Yeah. This thing is really cool.
Andrew	This is an interesting CWC release.
Everett	But it's a serious watch. This isn't a, I mean, it's a beautiful watch. But this is a serious watch, too. I think this is such a funny, weird release, but I kind of love it, man.
Andrew	I kind of love it. No, I'm with you, because CWC is so very much, like, really simple, really tool. Why did you turn your flashlight on? What are you looking at? I think it just happens. Like, sometimes I click the back of my case. Super utilitarian. And I'd expect a release like this. Like, this isn't shocking. at like 30 meters of water resistance, 50, but it's, it's a fully spec'd with a screw down crown. Like it's a, it, this is an interesting release. Yeah.
Everett	Yeah. And you know what? CWC has the watch that you'd expect them to release here, right? They have vintage and frankly, I think Hamilton makes a vintage one. Two. So if you want this watch in a more elegant, so the Hamilton has the khaki pilot pioneer mechanical, which is 40 hand wound. Um, so if you want the sexy aesthetic one, you can get it. But if you want the serious, if you want the one that does it. Yeah.
Andrew	Yeah. This is it. And see, we see is such a baller, like no bullshit. if you're wearing a CWC, like if you see a CWC in the wild, that person knows exactly what the fuck they're wearing and why they're wearing it.
Everett	And I think I've been saying fixed spring bars, which isn't a thing. It's got fixed.
Andrew	Fixed lugs. Lugs. That's right. Yeah. You've, you've said several variations, all of which kind of like got you there. You know what I mean? Everyone knew no one was questioning it. I didn't call you out on any of the variations.
Everett	And, and it's, and, And no Fotina.
Andrew	No. And no Fotina. Yeah, because that's a big CWC problem.
Everett	So much Fotina.
Andrew	This thing is terrific. Every time I look at CWC's website, I'm like, man, I want a Cabot.
Everett	White pad printing with the green loom.
Andrew	This thing is terrific. Buy compacts. This is what the 1963 wants to be.
Everett	It's just cool. It's just a serious watch. It's the serious... Fixed quick release spring bars.
Andrew	Go ahead. No, I'm confused.
Everett	Where are we at? We have time for two more watches, Andrew.
Andrew	Or just one more if you don't want to do another one. I want to do a really quick one. We have the new instrument inspired Bell & Ross BR-03 Horizon. I love the BR-03. It's one of the most comfortable watches I've ever worn. It, when I put one on, it created a problem for me because of how comfortable it wore, how like everything was just right about it. This is just a new colorway iteration of the Bureau three. And I think it's really fun. They're really leaning into aviation instruments. This, uh, this watch style is designed after an attitude, um, What's the word I'm looking for? Instrument? Yeah, an instrument, uh, showing blue. It's a, it's an avionics instrument with a blue horizon. Yeah. A horizon readout. Now the North half is blue. The South half is black to be able to indicate your attitude of your aircraft in flight. Uh, this one doesn't adjust. I think it'd be really cool if it was like a floating dial. If they could have figured out some way to do the pitch like, yeah, to like float your dial and act, making an actual artificial horizon. And that would be really cool. They didn't do that because that would make it significantly more expensive and probably like four millimeters thicker.
Everett	Um, as it is, you know, this is a Bureau three, so it's like 10 millimeters.
Andrew	Yeah. It's like 10 Hyfe, I think. Um, but it's, it's a really lovely, light blue. It's a great black. It's a BRO three with a cool instrument, uh, flare to it. Uh, I like it. I think it's a cool release. I like it. I don't like most Bell and Ross, but this, the BRO three line, they're doing some cool stuff with it. Uh, I dig, I really dig this release. I think it's fun. It hearkens back to their aviation inspiration. in a way that's not like, we now have an instrument.
Everett	Well, I do, Andrew, I'm with you. This is a terrific watch. And I do think that the internal disc rotates to indicate the hour. So there are times where it looks sort of diagonal. Yeah, but it doesn't float. It doesn't float. No, you're right. But it does move, which, yeah.
Unknown	I want it to float.
Andrew	How much are these? Uh, yeah, they're five grand. They're BR03 prices. That's the, that's, you know, kind of a Bell and Ross thing is they don't, some of their special editions get, you know, double their typical rate, but generally they're, you know, in the zone. They're, they're limited to a thousand, 999 pieces. So if you want one, you're going to be able to get one. I think they're fun.
Everett	I think they're fun too. Um, Hanhart.
Andrew	Oh, interesting. That's the, that's the one you're going with.
Everett	Do you know what this is, dude?
Andrew	I, I do a little, but this, what I'm saying is that there were some other things on our list that I'm surprised you went with this over that.
Everett	You know, we, we get to do whatever we want. It's our show. It's our show. We get to do whatever we want. Um, Hanhart released a watch they're calling the Preventor. Preventor. Preventor HD 12. Despite the name, I do not believe this has any prophylactic qualities. Rather, it maybe is sexy enough that it's likely to do the opposite.
Andrew	It will cause things to happen.
Everett	All right. This is, aesthetically speaking, the least interesting watch that we're going to talk about. It looks like a Murph.
Andrew	With some Explorer flavors.
Everett	Yes. It looks like a Murph. We've got cathedral hands. We've got Murph. This looks like a Murph, but HD-12 Preventor, HD-12. HD-12 is a type of steel they're using. Uh, it's a, this, you know, Hanhart being a German brand, this is a three hand watch with central seconds. Uh, it's 39 millimeters. It is not interesting until you start to understand what HD-12 is. HD-12 is a steel with the tooling and the general qualities of 316L. However, it's harder and yet not brittle. Additionally, this watch has some sort of invisible DLC coating to make it even more scratch resistant. I don't know if this is going to be like a Zen or even a, or even a not Baltic. Traska. Hardness coating, I just don't fucking know.
Andrew	I've done things to try to break that coating and I haven't been able to.
Everett	With that said, it's a 1200 Vickers rated surface, meaning many, many, many times more resistant to scratches than 316. And it's gorgeous, Andrew. It's 39 millimeters. It's 10 and a half thick.
Andrew	It's everything we want.
Everett	This is what the Murph probably always should have been. Uh, it's terrific. It comes in black. It comes in blue. They both look great. It doesn't have any faux Tina on it.
Andrew	An extra 200 euros. It'll get you a PVD bracelet.
Everett	It comes on a bracelet for a thousand bucks ish, 1100 bucks. I think it. $1,200. $1,200. Fine. It's terrific. I love it. I really, really, really like it. I think that this is one of the nicest watches that you can get for under $2,000. Is this as good as a Manta Triumph, which I'm wearing tonight? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't know. Hanhart makes really nice watches. I don't think this would be as nice as a Monte Triumph.
Andrew	Is it? But if you don't get desk diving marks, is it, does that compensate for the, the Delta? Maybe, maybe. Right? Like every day you put on a brand new looking watch.
Everett	And it's less money than a Triumph. Is it as cool as a Murph? Yes. Cooler. If you want to get a Murph and you don't actually care about the Murph connection, buy this because this is better and cooler and better looking. Is this as good as an IWC Mark 20? Uh, no, probably not. Probably not. Uh, but it's more scratch resistant. 22% of the cost. 20% of the cost. Uh, maybe less than that. Uh, it's 17% of the cost of an IWC Mark 20. Your watches cost $40,000. It's awesome.
Andrew	It's a really interesting release.
Everett	And because it's German, automatic is spelled with a K. Automatic. Automatic. It's fantastic. I love it. I think that this is the most boring, most exciting watch of the week.
Andrew	I think I am ready to end it on the most boring and most exciting, because that's kind of my style. Boring and exciting.
Everett	Andrew, other things. What do you got? Uh, so I watched a show. You need to get this, Hanhart. It's a watch made for you.
Andrew	It really is. Uh, it really is. Um, so I saw this coming soon tile on the Netflix was intrigued by it. And two days ago I clicked on it because it was available. Now new release monsters, a Lyle and Eric. Menendez story.
Everett	Oh, holy shit.
Andrew	It was terrific. So this is part, this is a biopic, right? Yeah. So it's a, it's a biopic. It is part do of monsters from Netflix, which has been renewed for a third season. First season being the Dahmer, which was so good. Um, second season of this anthology is the Menendez brothers, which is just as good, but just slightly different, right? Cause so the, um, the Dahmer story was kind of told chronologically, right? Like you get introduced to him and then you get kind of flash forwards and flashbacks. This was just a little bit differently, old timeline story, but was so well acted. So terrific. Uh, it like, I couldn't stop watching last night. I was watching and I felt myself, I'm like, Oh, I'm about to fall asleep. Mental timestamp. What are you watching? Like what is happening in the show right now? So that when you inevitably fall asleep and a couple episodes run, you can go back and know exactly where you missed it. And I did just that. I was like, okay, timestamp, click, click. This is where I'm out. And then I went to sleep and it was super funny.
Everett	Cause some people just turn off the TV and go to bed.
Andrew	No, I just tipped over. Uh, it was cause it was pretty early. It was like eight 30. It was funny cause my, my wife was working at the time she was sitting at the bar. And, um, she's like, do you remember that scene last night? And I was like, uh, not from last night. because I mental noted it that that was when I was going to fall asleep. She goes, Oh no, I heard you start storing. Like, yeah, no, I was, I went out. Um, uh, but I went back and we watched it. So yes, I've, I've, I'm fully caught up. Um, it, it was terrific. And, and, and they, they do in monsters in this, in this anthology show, they do a really good job of not, um, not like making a hero of these villains. Like they're really, they make them relatable without making them like, uh, likable, likable, right? Like they're not anti heroes in any capacity. It's like, no, no, no. These guys, like, I, I see it. I accept it. You're, you're human people.
Everett	They're not unnecessarily vilifying them, but they're also, yeah, like they're,
Andrew	You're a human. And you're fucked up. You're fucked up. Yeah. And they do a really good job of that. I haven't watched the Dahmer one, so I'll maybe have to. The Dahmer one's super good. Yeah. They're both really good and they do a really good job of like, you don't fall in love with this villain, but you, you, you see not necessarily the why, but the what. Yeah. and hate them the entire time, but also you don't relate to them ever, but you, you, you kind of, you kind of get it.
Everett	There's a bit of, uh, empathy involved.
Andrew	Yeah. They, they do such a good job with that balance. They never make them an anti-hero. They never make them somebody that you'd want to be or somebody that you can relate to, but you can, you can see it and, and without accepting it, tolerate it to the extent that like, Oh, Okay. If I was there, I might be there too. Sure.
Everett	Cool. I'll check it out.
Andrew	Yeah, it's really good.
Everett	Andrew, I've got another thing. You've got a relatively new car, right? What year is your car?
Andrew	2014. Okay. Sam's car's I think at 18. Okay. But my truck is a 14.
Everett	So I assume you don't have car play in your car.
Andrew	Uh, I have sync. It's like a Ford play.
Everett	Does Sam's car have CarPlay?
Andrew	It has a touchscreen, and when I plug my phone into it, it immediately does the things that my phone is doing.
Everett	Well, so in my Lexus, I had a very nice aftermarket stereo that I had to get this Japanese thing to make work.
Andrew	As would happen with a Japanese car.
Everett	CarPlay. The stereo that I bought, the aftermarket stereo, had wireless CarPlay. I would just get in my car, I'd turn it on, and it just, CarPlay would come on, and it was awesome. You know, so I'm in this 2003 Lexus, and fully modern stereo, both in terms of IO and, or, you know, UI, and in terms of sound. So it was great. I've noticed that many cars that were released in the last, say, five years have CarPlay, but they don't have wireless CarPlay. So both of our new cars, so our 2021 Highlander and our Lexus have CarPlay, but they don't have wireless CarPlay. So you've got to plug in.
Andrew	It doesn't have a Bluetooth connect?
Everett	Not for CarPlay. I find that to be a little annoying. I find it to be a little annoying. It's not the end of the world.
Andrew	Dude, I drive six different Fords, like Ford Explorers ranging in age, like five years of age. And when I get into that car, it grabs my Bluetooth immediately and starts playing my Bluetooth. But not through CarPlay. I don't know what CarPlay is, maybe.
Everett	CarPlay is an Apple product that is put on stereos and it replicates your iPhone on the stereo. So when I would get into the Lexus, I would get in and it would just turn on and it's my iPhone screen. I can see my iPhone apps, my podcast apps.
Andrew	I don't have that.
Everett	I've got text message. I've got all my text messages. I can make calls. I've got my maps app. It is like my phone. projected onto my stereo. It's crippled a little bit, but it's just like your phone is on your stereo. Carplay is awesome. Um, but plugging in for Carplay, I find to be a touch annoying. I, I recently, someone was telling me, well, they make these dongles and dongles. You, you can essentially plug it in and it turns your, wired CarPlay and a wireless CarPlay and they work really well. They're relatively affordable.
Andrew	It's like a little hotspot.
Everett	It's like a little hotspot. So I, I started researching this things and I found that like, there's a lot of bad information. There's a lot of articles that you can tell are like, um, what's the word where someone's being paid for what they're writing. What's the phrase for this? Sponsored. Yeah, sponsored, there's a better word for it. They're affiliate, right? Oh, yeah. All these affiliate articles. It was really annoying to try to figure out which one of these. I eventually narrowed it down to a couple of products and I went with one that seemed like the safest bet. So I purchased a product called... I'm surprised you didn't go Anchor, just like right out the gate. Well, I don't think Anchor makes one of these. So these companies are brands you don't really know. So I went with a company, this is from Car-lin-kit, or Car-link-it, maybe? Car-linked? Car-linked. Car-linked? Car-lin-kit? Anyway, I bought the Car-link-it 5.0 adapter, which is sort of the latest, greatest from the company called Car-link-it.
Andrew	I think it's Car-link-it. The capitalization makes it look like... No, I agree, because I think there's an English translation problem. Perhaps.
Everett	Anyway, supposedly this is the latest, greatest, best you can buy in terms of these dongles. I bought this thing. It took three days to get here from Amazon. I plugged it in. It brought up a screen. I connected my phone and it just fucking works. So I've got this thing in the Highlander right now. Um, and it's just Andrew.
Andrew	Is it just doing the things?
Everett	It just does the things. It was 65 bucks. I bought $66 and 20 cents. I bought it on Amazon. It does both CarPlay and whatever the Android, Android auto. It does both of those.
Andrew	If you're using an Android, fix yourself.
Everett	Well, whatever. I don't care. I don't have any sort of... Quit wrecking group texts with your green messages. I use Apple because it's what I use, but I think Androids are probably fine too. Anyway, This does both Android auto and car play. Um, I obviously haven't used it with Android auto, but I understand it works exactly the same. It's just perfect. It just works. I plugged it in. It took me about, I don't know, three minutes to get this thing set up. It takes about 10 seconds to start up. When you start the car, you can tell it takes just a minute, but phones in my pocket. I start the car 10 seconds later, my phone is projected on the stereo and it just works. Does it work with, multiple devices? It does. It does. So not all, all, not all of them do. That was one of the reasons that I clued in on this one. Um, because I can use it with both Kim and I, and it defaults to the most recent connection. So if I'm driving and then I get out of the car and then both Kim and I get in the car, it'll hook up to mine. And, and if, and vice versa. So if Kim drives and then we both get in the car, it hooks up to Kim. So it defaults to the last connection if it's got choices. It's like, ah, that's the last one.
Andrew	I liked that one better. Yeah.
Everett	Um, gosh, Andrew, it's terrific. It, it's one of these things. If you drive a 2021 car, that's got wired CarPlay or Android auto, and you want that to be wireless, pick up this thing. It's good for a couple of things. One, many, many modern cars have the stereo plugin, which charges your car at like one point something. And then a couple of other USBs that charge your phone at more two point or three point amps or whatever. So if you are hooked up to this thing on Bluetooth, you want to charge a lot of times you'll be able to charge faster than you would with the wired connection. Um, And it just works. It just fucking works. Now, when I was reading the reviews of these things, I understand there's some latency that's created by this like third party. I haven't noticed any problems with latency with this thing. That was the big concern when I started reading these reviews, is that latency and sort of like swiping delays and timing delays. And sometimes the phone calls can get weird because of latency. I've had none of that. It is quick. It's snappy. It's automatic. It's perfect. So if you're looking for one of these things, 65 bucks, Carlin kit 5.0, let me link in the show notes. I love it and I'm not getting paid to say this. In fact, I paid money to get one of these things. I love it. It's doing the thing. I haven't tried any others, so there might be ones that are better, but this one does all the things I wanted it to do.
Andrew	And if there's things that are better, feel free to send them to Everett for free.
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