It's a Lunar Pilot, but... Red (302)

Published on Wed, 07 Aug 2024 20:37:20 -0700

Synopsis

This episode of the 40 and 20 Watch Clicker podcast features hosts Andrew and Everett discussing various watch releases and other topics. They begin by talking about the Olympics and some recent athletic performances. The hosts then cover several new watch releases from brands like Omega, Timex, G-Shock, Panerai, Fears, Grand Seiko, and Bulova. They discuss the designs, specifications, and their opinions on each watch. Beyond watches, the hosts also chat about topics like pepper grinders, hot dogs, and cooking techniques. The episode concludes with the hosts thanking listeners and providing information on how to follow and support the podcast.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett Oh man, terrific. Uh, enjoying the Olympics? Yes. Olympics are happening. I'm enjoying them. Uh, the United States is cleaning up now that the diving is over. Watched an Oregon grad today set the Olympic record in the 1500, Cole Hawker, which was just terrific. He was, I think, seen as fourth place, probably, but a bit of a dark horse with his kick and, of course, Uh, if you haven't watched the race, I've spoiled it for you and I'm sorry, but it's, I mean, this has been days ago at this point.
Andrew So you had your chance to watch it live. You didn't, now you have to listen to us.
Everett Yeah, it was, I mean, he just, I mean, he was like an eighth at 400 and, uh, did the thing that he's done so well, uh, over the course of the last few years. And then, you know, that last really the last 200 meters just found a space, thought he had a space and then couldn't, couldn't get there. Then had to back out of it and then found another space and kicked to beat, uh, Jakob Ingebrigtsen. I mean, just, it was a stacked field and it was terrific to watch. It was really exciting. I watched it in real time, which is like, yes. Uh, yeah, but just, it really been enjoying the Olympics. Uh, it was always a, such a fun thing. I bought a TV to put in my office just for the Olympics. I've made good use of it. played some golf this last weekend, went up to Seattle. So yeah, I have zero, nothing to complain about. I do have things to complain about, but I won't.
Andrew And you know, we wouldn't really care about the things you have to complain about.
Everett Nor the things that I have to be happy about.
Andrew Oh yeah, there's that too. Uh, you know, I've been, I've also been watching the Olympics and this is the first year that my phone fell.
Everett It sure did.
Andrew Um, this is the first year that I have This might even be the first year that it's happened, but Peacock has full replays of everything. So you can watch. It's not just like, Oh, well, you know, I want to watch the sports. I have to either TiVo or like be available.
Everett It's just on demand.
Andrew Everything's on demand. So I've watched a lot of sports that I've never watched at like the Olympic level before.
Unknown Hmm.
Andrew And it has been awesome. I've watched surfing. I watched the, uh, I watched most of the different kayaking and canoeing competitions, watched a lot of rock climbing today. It is been awesome. Those are sports that I'd never would have ever thought to watch, but for the Olympics now I'm like, Oh, I could watch this. Like I need to get the Ocho so I can watch these sports regularly.
Everett You know, I don't feel like the Summer Olympics has its own curling, right? Like curling is something that nobody pays any attention to until the Winter Olympics. I don't think this I don't feel like the Summer Olympics has that same phenomenon.
Andrew I don't know. And does anybody care about rowing?
Everett No, but I don't think anybody watches rowing in the Summer Olympics. Look, I don't think it's the same level of of care.
Andrew No, certainly not. I think maybe this year with the introduction of the kayak, uh, cross like time cross, which is a four kayak race on what is typically the single boat track that could become the summer Olympics version of curling. Cause it's mayhem. It's a tiny, like these four six foot kayaks, side by side, totally fill up the channel. And it is. They described it as Mario Kart on the water. And it's not wrong.
Everett Yeah, it's fun. It could be the track and field is the curling of the Summer Olympics and that we're that we're biased because we're in track down. I think it's fair to admit at least that possibility that that's the closest analog.
Andrew Track and field has such a world wide year round presence. Yeah. And curling, though it is highly competitive and I could never compete in it. It's the one like Olympic sport where every time I watch, I'm like, that guy's 60 pounds overweight. I could do that. Like, like that's not an athlete right there. That guy just like, that's a bowler on ice. Sure. Yeah. I could do it.
Everett I won't. Except that you couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't. Uh, well in any event, as exciting as the Olympics are, we're not here to talk about Olympics. We're here to talk about watches and watches. We will talk about, um, again, a neat week. Hey, I want to, before we get started here, I want to give a quick shout out to a, I guess you'd call it a newsletter. So if you navigate to www. If you're on the Reddit watches sub-forum, you've seen posts from It's About Time. I think the Reddit handle is, I'll come back to that. But this fellow has started a daily watch news newsletter. And you can sign up and get it in your inbox. Or you can navigate to itsabouttime.email each day. Uh, and, uh, essentially this fellow, I think it's Vuk Radich. Uh, I'm going to, that's how I'm going to pronounce his name. I apologize if I've messed it up. Um, a daily, a daily newsletter about new watch releases. And I have been following his newsletter here for several months and using his newsletter to inform our show. Uh, I think that's just the simplest and most honest way to say it. And so I want to give it a shout out to it's about time. Here's what I'll say. This fellow is putting in an incredible amount of work on this daily email. It's Monday through Friday. So five days a week. And he writes about every watch that he features. Unlike us, he doesn't link to like a worn and wound article. He's actually writing his own material about each of these releases. And it's usually four watches per day that he talks about a new release. Sometimes his releases are really hot off the presses. Sometimes they're a few days old, uh, or, or even, you know, um, maybe even a little older than that, but he acknowledges it when he does that. It's just terrific. And it's kept me more abreast of watch releases than, you know, Watches City or what was it that, that, what was the aggregator before that?
Andrew Watchville?
Everett Watchville, uh, or Morn & Wound or whatever. I believe this is the best platform for getting really sort of no nonsense news about watch releases. He posts on Reddit. He posts a link to his newsletter every day on Reddit. And it's completely Patreon supported. We, 40 and 20, support. It's about time on Patreon because we take so much material from him. Thanks, Mr. Retch. And happy to support that effort. So before we get started, quick shout out. It's about time.email. Check it out. There will be a link in our show notes. because I think it's really, really terrific, and the amount of effort that's gone into this is borderline mind-blowing. That's all I have to say about that. Alrighty then. Andrew, with that, do you want to get us started on our regurgitation of Mr. Radjic's Daily Watch News?
Andrew I was going to, except that the link that you sent me is a... It took me to the Fred Meyer app. like grocery shopping. Oh boy. So it took me out of my, out of my list of links and onto a grocery list. Uh, uh, yeah. So first, first up, I just, I want to talk about something briefly and this is something that Omega does. Uh, I think with some regularity is they just like kind of discreetly drop things by the wayside and let them hype themselves up.
Unknown Hmm.
Andrew There's not a huge marketing campaign behind it. There's not a whole lot of, of juice. It's just, oh yeah, we do this now. Yeah, it's not a big deal. What's up? Uh, and this thing that they're just discreetly adding to the list is, uh, moonshine gold references to the Aqua Terra. So there's, they're coming in two varieties. And for those unfamiliar, Omega has done some experimentation with, um, gold metallurgy. They are creating proprietary, maybe not proprietary, but I think proprietary compounds of gold in different color ways. They've got a rose gold, they've got a white gold, moonshine gold now being a yellow gold with additional metal compounds in it to enhance the luster, to prevent some of the aging that typically comes along with with precious metal watches. And this is in the Aqua Terra. And first, I see this and I go. Oh, no. I think that I might be down with a two tone watch now.
Unknown Hmm.
Andrew Because there's there's a few two tone like gold and and steel watches out there or yellow and white gold watches out there that I've been like, oh, it's That kind of works for me. And the Aqua Terra is just perfect in it. And in this Moonshine Gold, it's this really bright, vibrant yellow gold. And it's not old enough really to know if it makes much of a difference. I think Moonshine first was released in like, it's like 2018, 2019. Something like that. Yep. Yep. 2019. So fairly recently to be a on the Speedmaster. Yeah, the Apollo. Yeah. So there's not enough time gone by to know if their claim of it really holds its luster. Hmm. But it's that's the claim. And this looks good in. For sure, green and black. I'm sure some other colorways will find their way in here, but I am here for the two-tone in black. These come in at like $13.9, I think, on the... $13.6 on the Omega website, so they'll be a little... they'll be north of $10, or like maybe on a good deal at about $9. This is a good platform for two-tone, or a good platform for all gold.
Everett Yeah, yeah. Monochrome, for their part, has them at 13.4. I don't know if monochrome, it doesn't look to me like monochrome has touched these, so, at least based on the pictures, so, yeah. It's 13.5-ish. Yeah. Oh, you were talking about price, and I had it in my head you were talking about thickness. Got it, yeah. They're 13.5 thick. I'll add that to the conversation. Yeah. Apropos of nothing. Yeah.
Andrew That's actually not bad for, so for precious metal then that's, and especially a precious metal alloy.
Everett Uh, did you, did you know prior to reading this article that you sent me that, um, that Omega pioneered the, the use of 904L? In watches. I read that. And. Or at least possibly pioneered with the Polaroff.
Andrew Yeah. And I, without any kind of research into it, I, I don't, I don't know what to think about that.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. It seems possible if not likely that that's, that's the case.
Andrew There's so many things though that were pioneered contemporaneously. Like everyone happened to do it. It's just somebody got it to market first.
Everett And in addition to the full size, they've also made two 38 millimeters with the 12.3 thickness. One of them's like a beautiful sort of red and the other is this blue dial, the all gold blue dial. Did you see this one? Yeah. Yeah. These are great.
Andrew Yeah. I don't know if gold has ever really fallen out Uh, it certainly doesn't, it hasn't held this popularity from the, you know, the seventies and eighties. I'm wondering if this is a sign of maybe a little bit of resurgence. I hope it is. I could be, I could get down with a gold resurgence.
Everett Yeah. You know, I want to say that we talked about, we talked about that possibility with Evan a few years ago. Um, I think I'm with you there, right? That gold has never really fallen out, but it did. It has maybe stepped aside for a little bit. I do think with that said, I do think two-tone watches are either having or about to have a moment. I think two-tone is going to have a moment because unlike unlike gold watches, two-tone mercurial. The love for two-tone is mercurial anyway.
Andrew And can be much more affordable.
Everett Well, sure. Yeah. Cause it's less metal. Yeah. Um, and interestingly enough, I think that we've got one, two, three, four.
Andrew Yeah. Today's list has got.
Everett Or five, maybe five gold tone watches. So I'm going to move on to one of those. Uh, this is, this is a watch that I don't, I don't, I didn't see in any watch media, but I did see on It's About Time. This is a 34 millimeter Marlin that caught my eye. So it is a gold toned, pink dialed, mechanical Timex Marlin. They're calling this the Marlin hand-wound 34 millimeter stainless steel expansion band watch. Thank you Timex for that clever naming convention.
Andrew Way to go. It's better than a 36 alphanumeric, uh, skew though.
Everett You know, uh, Timex, I think does not get enough action out of the Marlin This watch is clearly aimed at women, but I will tell you right now, I'd wear this watch. I would wear this watch. And at a price of $239, if I could get that down on like a sort of discounted MSRP, I would consider buying and owning this watch. So the dimensions are as follows. 34 millimeters across, 10 millimeters thick, which includes a giant acrylic crystal, 18 millimeter lug width, and this lovely expansion band that is alternating pink enamel and gold PVD stainless steel. Um, mechanical movement. We don't, we don't know what type of movement it is. Probably a seagull or something.
Andrew That has to be a seagull at this price.
Everett Mechanical movement. Um, Breguet markers. It's a Marlin. It's a lovely sort of dusty pink dial with these raised polished gold tone Breguet markers. a handset that, you know, it's not going to win any awards.
Andrew It's the right handset though.
Everett It's a really simple gold tone stick handset. Um, big double dome crystal. This thing is fantastic. It's fantastic. I love it. I love this watch.
Andrew Yeah, this is good. I,
Everett Stainless steel case, too. So even though it's gold tone, it's stainless. It's not like a plated brass or something.
Andrew Or like Play-Doh or something that you'd kind of expect at a Timex at this price point. That's right. Yeah, I. Pass. Pass. Yeah, it's a pass. I think it's a it's a cool release. I want to see this in other color ways, like even even like a black dial. and skip the pink alternating.
Everett But you can get a black dial, Marlon.
Andrew Yeah, but I want this this setup without the alternating gold and pink on all gold and a black dial on an expando. I wonder if that exists. I'm not sure. I'm not sure it does. I'm not saying it doesn't.
Everett Yeah, maybe not in a. So I know they have a silver dial. Yeah, I don't know. Interesting.
Andrew Well, the pink is cool. I mean, it's a I feel like this should have come out in February, March, ahead of Easter.
Everett Oh, you and the Easter color. People do things in color at other times. And you're like, pastel's Easter, neon is Easter.
Andrew It's all Easter. Watch dials should be white, sometimes black, and occasionally blue.
Everett Well, even though Andrew doesn't like it, there'll be a link in the show notes.
Andrew I might not link this one.
Everett It's a gold watch in honor of our gold watch episode that we're doing right now.
Andrew Inadvertently. Inadvertently. There's a couple others that are there, but I'm not ready to talk about them yet. The next thing that I want to talk about is an interesting new release from G-Shock, their two tone utility color series. And usually G-Shock drops something. I'm like, oh, that's kind of interesting. Like, oh, that's kind of neat. That's a nice change. I think this is one of the cooler things that G-Shock has done in a while. They are taking five different models. Uh, what are they? The, um, I have to find them. Uh, the 110, the 6900, the X56, the GA710, and the GA100, and using their black resin case and integrating them with a kind of somewhere between F.D.E. and like a tan strap and which is like kind of the tactical soup du jour right now. Coyote is maybe closest color way in the tactical world to these straps. And I'm for it. They've also got a It's a little bit darker than O.D. Green. I'd call it kind of like moss green, maybe. Hmm. But I'm I'm here for that. That's a cool thing because so many because that's the sort of the world that G Shock lives in. And it surprises me that up until this point, they hadn't had that black case and and strap color combination because there's plenty of these watches in that color. but having the color combination of either that Coyote or OD is neat.
Everett Yeah. And they've done this with the Mudmaster and these, I would say are Mudmaster inspired. There's a lot of references to Gorp Core in the write-ups for these. I've read a handful of write-ups.
Andrew That's a term that I was not familiar with.
Unknown Oh.
Andrew That wasn't, that was a new one for me. So I, I looked it up and then continued reading. It was like, Oh, you looked it up for me. Thank you. Yeah. Uh, which is kind of, I, I read, um, I don't remember where I read it, but it was, uh, it was some commentary on Oregonians dressing as if, and I'm quoting, a hike could break out at any moment.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, if you're in the Northwest, Corp Corps is just close.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. Because like everywhere, our weather is vastly diverse during the day. Oregonians take pride in the fact that it could be sunny and rainy all in one day. You might even get some hail. Um, it's every, it, weather is like that everywhere, but there's a, uh, an outdoor lifestyle flair and flavor to Pacific Northwest fashion that has infiltrated our very existence.
Everett And I guess Casio is actually referred to Gorp Core in the press release for this.
Andrew All right. These are cool. These are cool. I like this release and then, you know, they're G-Stock prices, right? They're not limited edition prices. They're not weirdly priced. They, they come in right aligned with what you would get a, a non, utility color combo watch at.
Everett Yeah, that's right. There's not anything fancy happening here besides the colors and they're priced as such. Thank you, Casio, for not being stupid. Way to land it. This time. This time.
Andrew Yeah, I might get one of those $6,900.
Everett Well, I'm just going to move it right along. I'm going to talk about a brand we do not talk about very much on this show because their watches are giant and beautiful but giant and have as of late been stupid often. That company is Panerai. Panerai, Panerai, Panerai. Panerai had its moment a few years back when Sylvester Stallone, who's got giant arms and wrists, started wearing Panerais and they have of course had multiple moments besides that. I'm being a little bit, I'm being a little bit playful with that. Uh, but definitely had a moment with the sort of big wrist crowd and the big wrist, big watch period. And then I think that they've struggled to adapt as a modern brand. I think they've struggled to adapt. They've done a lot of weird shit. They've done, you know, a few years back they were like, well, look, we're making a conservatively sized watch. Uh, and we're giving it 30 meters of water resistance because of course you can't have 200 meters of water resistance unless your watch is giant, which we all know it's untrue. Anyway, Panerai has struggled to keep up.
Andrew I think they're like a rich person's Invicta.
Everett Yeah, maybe Andrew, that's not unfair.
Andrew Cause there's so many Invictas that have that, that are, it, I mean, they're Panerai rips or maybe Panerai is ripping weird Invictus. It's hard to say because they just do these weird kind of like almost steampunky, strange industrial designs that are. Unlike a lot of other things you see in the watch world that are like, yeah, we have this. For this functionality,
Unknown Like, uh, okay.
Andrew Panerai is like, no, we just have this big, you know, for, because that's what we wanted to do.
Everett Well, it's in that context that we can now talk about a bit of a refreshing, I would say a bit of a refreshing announcement from Panerai, which is that they are releasing a 44 millimeter.
Andrew Ooh, it's tiny.
Everett Basic bitch Luminor with the classic Luminor case, a very simple green dial, a Luminor logo. They're calling this the PAM 01624, which is just a very simple, very straightforward hand winder. Just a touch of color. That's just back to basics. They're like, look what we did. We've got a time only display with our signature small seconds and nothing stupid or weird or crazy. You're going to get 100 meters of water resistance in this watch. You're going to get leather or rubber. You're going to like it. It's easy. It's a PAM. And I'm like, God, this is the most boring, but most refreshing Panerai release in ages.
Andrew And it's 6,200 euros.
Everett And it's it's 6200 euros, which is I mean, we're still talking Panerai.
Andrew We're talking Panerai prices.
Everett It's got it's got what I think Panerai would describe as their basis of base movements. This is a hand wound time only. There's no module. There's no accommodation for a module. This is just a time only. Very simple. three hertz, three day movement at a reasonable price with a reasonable level of water resistance in a reasonable size. Why is that? It's so bizarre that the most boring possible watch release could be like, yes, Panerai did a cool thing by releasing a boring... By not doing the Panerai thing.
Andrew Yeah, I don't know. Panerai has always been a brand that has interested me and I've always wanted to like like the Luminor, for example, is a watch that I've always wanted to like.
Unknown Hmm.
Andrew But have even at this size. I can appreciate it, but it's just it's just not for me. It's not even a guilty pleasure.
Everett I'd wear the shit out of this with zero reservation or hesitation. I'd wear the shit.
Andrew I mean, so would I, but I'm not sure. Like if I got it for free.
Everett Yes, I'd pay retail for this. I really 100%. I think this is terrific.
Andrew This yeah, it's it's maybe a bridge too far for me.
Everett Now I will say I will say Panerai being Panerai has said this is a 44 millimeter watch and has said nothing else about the dimensions. I looked diligently. I could not find a thickness on this. It's going to be 14. at least. I'm guessing 15. I'm guessing 15.3. If you compare it to analogs, it's going to be just a touch over 15. It's going to have 24 millimeter lugs. Yeah, probably a 52 or someone on the lug to lug. I don't know.
Andrew I think the lug to lug is going to be a little shorter because this is a pretty square case. I think we're probably looking at like 48 to 50.
Everett lug to lug, maybe a little less. Let's see if I can find the numbers. So the typical 44 millimeter cushion case are 1305 thick. Oh, so thinner than that, with a lug to lug of 53. Ooh. So yeah.
Andrew I recently saw... But you know, Panera has that
Everett a pretty aggressive curve on that, so it probably wears relatively well for most people.
Andrew Yeah, you know, just happens to be a manhole cover on your wrist that curves down at the ends. Yeah. It comes back towards your wrist a little bit. I read somewhere, I forget who wrote it, that the magic, that the true defining dimension of a watch was in the lug-to-lug. And I didn't fully disagree.
Everett Yeah, no, I think that that can be true, depending on the shape of your wrist. For me, I've not had a lot of trouble with that dimension.
Andrew You've got tube wrists, though.
Everett What do you mean, tube wrists?
Andrew You have very round wrists. They're pretty rectangular. I've got rectangular wrists. Mine are, my y-axis is fairly short compared to my x-axis of my wrist.
Everett So you are the one with the tube wrists?
Andrew No, yours are closer. Tube is round. It's round circle. That's a rectangle. Hand gestures don't do a lot of justice on a radio show or podcast as we do. We're hand gesturing, comparing what shapes are. And we can move on. This is an interesting release from Panerai. I pretty narrow window of what I think of Hamilton watches. You know, we have the, it's the Ventura, right, is their triangle. And then there's a couple little weird out there one-offs from Hamilton, but Hamilton is generally a pretty conservative, very traditionally styled watch manufacturer. And then you look at this below zero, And it. It is looks closer to a Panerai. It's this big, chunky screws on top of the outside of the case, big, massive attached crown guards, crazy, weird angles and cuts on the lugs. It looks like an instrument more than it. Right. I mean, this looks like a. Looks like they popped it off of the inside of a submersible more than a more than a watch or like the inside of a. Of a cockpit, 46 millimeter case, 15.7 thick. This is a big no bullshit titanium dive instrument. 22 millimeter lug width. It is interesting. 80 hour power reserve. It's got the H10 Powermatic movement in there. Uh, and as I'm reading about this, I'm like, Oh, this is going to be like a 2,500, maybe $3,000 tech spec'd dive instrument. 1,750 bucks. Is this the same?
Everett Is this the same watch that, um, Matt Damon wore in the Martian? Oh, I think this might be. And I think actually, um, I think actually it's, it was used in Tenet as well.
Andrew Hamilton has a ton of feature time in motion pictures.
Everett Hollywood placement. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. Uh, But this is, this is so far outside of the, the Hamilton wheelhouse that I felt like I had to talk about it a little bit today.
Everett Yeah. You know, I don't remember, I don't think I've ever seen this in stainless before. Maybe that's what's happening here, that this is the first time. Cause I know in the Martian and I believe in Tenet as well, it, assuming I'm, I'm correct about this, uh, it was this watch, but in, but in black PVD, like a sort of murdered out version. Um, I find that this watch to be a lot more striking in steel.
Andrew And with that, with this yellow rubber, this, I mean, I'd wear the shit out of this watch.
Everett Yeah. It looks highly visible. It looks highly legible is the word I meant to say. How do you feel with the font? I don't like it. Nope. I don't like it.
Andrew Um, but I knew you weren't going to.
Everett Yeah. You, you mean for the numerals? Yeah. No, I don't like it.
Andrew Well, the Hamilton font is, is it's standard current font.
Everett Uh, yeah, no, I don't like the, the Arabic numeral font.
Andrew I mean, whatever. I, it's funny when I, I can tell if you're going to like a font or not.
Everett Cause I say, cause I say it.
Andrew No, I can look at a font and be like, Oh, Everett's going to hate that. I can't, I like it. It's like pornography, right? I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. Uh-huh. I just I just know like, oh, he's going to hate. He hates this. Yeah, that's funny. This thing is it's like kind of ugly. But I I kind of really like it. Yeah. Yeah. Which is unusual for me, because this is this is also outside of my typical wheelhouse of watches that I would like.
Everett Yeah, I think it's cool. I mean, it's definitely cool. You know, given a choice between this or the Panerai, give me the Panerai all day. This, of course, is what, 20% of the price of the Panerai. Yeah, I mean, this is under $2,000. 25%. So, but yeah, I'll take the Panerai all day long for a relatively similar watch.
Andrew Yeah. I mean, this is better spec'd in every regard.
Everett Yeah, sure. Who cares about spec's are for suckers.
Andrew Yeah, everyone has better water resistance than. Oh, gosh, you just paddock just reduced everything to 30.
Everett That's right. Yama. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yama, man, what a cool brand, right? This is this old brand. that's been around forever, but then went away, but now is back and is just deep catalog. Let's freaking go. So they're releasing, um, they're releasing a Navy, Navy graph, Marine national, which is Yema sort of skin diver, right? Uh, in contrast with, Uh, in contrast with their more serious Superman, which is like a diver, um, with the locking bezel, blah, blah, blah, blah. The, uh, the Navy graph is a, is a more slender watch, a skin diver. Touch more svelte. A touch more svelte. They've now equipped this thing. So, so Yema, Yema's doing a thing. They're like, we're, in our resurgence, going to make hella badass proprietary movements. And, and that's what we're going to do. And sometimes we're going to make you like do Kickstarters for these, which is weird for an established company. And, and yeah, but you know what? Fuck it.
Andrew It's going to be worth it. So we're like kind of okay with it.
Everett It's going to be worth it. You guys, we promise it's going to be worth it. So once again, Here we go. We've got, we don't have a Kickstarter, but we've got a watch that's being released, a catalog watch that's being released in a new version with an incredible movement. This is the CMM.10, which is their three hand movement with a, with a big old anti-magnetic balance and this stabilized bridge that they call a transversal bridge. A stop seconds mechanism and a big old giant barrel giving 70 hours of power reserve. Uh, this is, I think Yema is doing more right now in house to develop movements, I think, than any other company on earth. Maybe there are a few smaller companies. Um, but this is all new architecture. It's developed in house. And they're pushing the limit and geesh, the movement looks so good. It's a beautiful movement.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew So, and it's, it's lightly decorated, but in just the right places, it, it looks almost like, like looking at a cross section of a, like a twin turbo engine, right? There's, it's not super beautiful. It's just looks good.
Everett And so what you get, you get a 39 millimeter by 11 thick and 11 thick. You're like, Oh, 11 thick. But that includes the two and a half millimeter double dome Sapphire, 46 millimeter lug to lug. So wearable, even for you big Y-axis people, um, screw down crown, 300 meters of water resistance.
Andrew Yeah, that was the big shock. We're looking at like a nine millimeter thick watch here.
Everett 300 meters of water resistance.
Andrew Yeah. You don't owe me that, but thank you.
Everett It comes with a bracelet or a quote unquote marine national strap, which is exactly what you might think it is. Um. Sapphire crystal on the case back. Uh, it's coming right now in this like they're calling it Navy blue. This feels a little dusty for me, a little lighter than Navy to be Navy blue, but that's what they're calling it. um color match does it looks like a ceramic bezel no it's not ceramic that looks like a i think it's a sapphire bezel looks like a sapphire bezel it's a sapphire uh insert yeah on the uh on the bezel again that cmm.10 movement which is a manufacturer movement developed and assembled by yama in mortaux france Everything made either in France or Switzerland.
Andrew This thing's sick, dude. It has manufactured Francais at the six o'clock. I don't know what their thresholds are for saying it's French made. Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know. I imagine it's probably similarly stringent to US made, but not quite as stringent as Swiss made.
Everett These things are coming in at 1690 euros. You can place orders now shipping at the end of September.
Andrew I was doing some shit right now. They're making some moves. They're like this kind of dark horse working in the shadows, dropping some cool shit and just. Chugging on along without need for fanfare or hype.
Everett Yeah, I mean, it dive watches. at dive watches at or around $2,000, you don't have a ton of options, right? That that's, we've talked about this before. Um, that's sort of like a little bit of a dead zone, right?
Andrew I don't know. There are options, but a lot of them are just kind of a bummer. Uh, it's like, ah, this maybe shouldn't live in this space.
Unknown Uh,
Andrew And bang for your buck at the two grand mark, there's not much there.
Everett You've got a lot of Seiko. You've got the Hydro Conquest, which is coming in at roughly the same price. You've got some tag stuff that's sort of in that world, and we've waxed poetic about the new Aquaracer stuff. So there, you know, Monta's just above that, you know, closer to that tag pricing.
Andrew Yeah, geez. This is a Hamilton.
Everett This feels to me like it plays. And and in terms of the movement, you're going to be you're going to be up there, right? This is a much cooler movement than something you'd get in a Manta, for instance. No, no disrespect to Manta, but this is a cooler that there's cooler guts in this for sure.
Andrew Far and away.
Everett And of course, the Manta is they're different beasts, right? They're not really comparable.
Andrew No, they're but they're you know, similarly priced.
Everett So I think depending on what your priorities are.
Andrew Yeah. I think just the, the movement alone and the work that's going into these movements is, is the bang for the buck in this. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. I'm, I'm bad at, bad at Andrew. What's next?
Andrew Next up for me, Braymont broadsword recon bronze.
Unknown Mm.
Andrew So we've talked about Bremont, Bremal.
Everett Recently, even.
Andrew Recently, a few times.
Everett We even got Mike Pearce in the dish a little bit.
Andrew We did. And so we know that they do a lot of military inspired, a lot of very classic and traditional military watches that are all very lovely with, you know, some upgrades. And this is a tribute watch. Uh, it's a limited edition. How many are there? A hundred. Yeah. Limited to a hundred pieces. Um, 40 millimeter case. It is made of solid bronze, brushed, brushed finish. It is gorgeous. A just slightly gloss dial on it. And it's not a bronze, uh, Bramont logo on it. It's close. It's like a golden yellow with her or his majesty. It's not her majesty or his majesty's armed forces. HMAF underneath small seconds at the six o'clock. This is just gorgeous. This is a dress field watch with small seconds. And I absolutely love it. Only 100 pieces, which kind of bums me out. 4,000 American money on these. Caseback is stamped with all three of his majesty's services approved by, oh, it's her majesty's armed forces still on the back. So a little late to the game on this. Salida SW 260 chronometer rated movement. This is, This is a cool metal release of. Just something neat.
Everett Yeah, I mean, I think this is an existing platform, right?
Andrew It's just it's the bronze edition of it.
Everett I think it's a little bit confusing in light of. Bremont's Watches and Wonders release of the Terra Firma series, which I think it's fair to say wasn't greeted particularly warmly by the enthusiast community. Not that I think Bramont should be all that focused on that community. With that said, this is a, uh, it's a bit of a curious release, uh, given that this has got the old logo. Um, yeah, I, I don't know what to make of this.
Andrew I really, really dig it. And then for a hundred pieces, how are you going to go wrong with something like that?
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew Do you mean the Terra Nova releases?
Everett That's what I mean. Yeah. What'd I say? Terra Firma? Yeah. Terra Nova.
Andrew Yeah. Sorry. Oh, cause Terra Firma is a company that we hear millions of ads for locally.
Everett That's right. I just said a wrong thing.
Andrew I was like, Ooh, I didn't know there was two of them. I don't know. I I'm okay with the Terra Nova release. I sort of get it.
Everett Yeah, no, I'm fine with it too. But, but I don't think it's unfair to say that it's gotten, they've gotten some,
Andrew They oh, they certainly have. And and it's a little bit out of alignment with the heritage of the brand, if we can call it that. Yeah. It's just yeah, it's a little bit. It's new, right? It's different. And we as watch people like or hate new things. There is no middle ground.
Everett You know, the only thing I had, the only I mean, I'm going to grab it's 100 meters, 100 meter watch. That's 40 millimeters wide and twelve and a half thick, which I mean, I just don't it feels to me like.
Andrew He just wants the baby got back.
Everett Yeah, yeah, no, this seems fine. It's what, five grand?
Andrew What we say it's in, yeah, I think 4100 euro, 3950 American money.
Unknown OK, whatever.
Andrew I'd wear the shit out of this, too. It's lovely, like a good sandwich dial on it just.
Everett All right, as promised, more gold. Fears. Oh, yes. Fears has come back with a new Brunswick Midas. This time they're calling it the Brunswick 38 Midas 2. And this time we get a 22 karat gold plated watch. So Fears, old, old, old company that was resurrected by Nicholas Bowman Scargo, uh, who is I believe the grandson or perhaps the great grandson. I think grandson. Um, and so, you know, there's this, there's a family legacy there, which I think in the age of zombie brands is charming.
Andrew Um, and he, it's almost not a zombie brand. It's almost like a, like we took a break and now we're back.
Everett And in my humble opinion, and I think by mostly all accounts is doing a terrific job. This is a Brunswick release, and the Brunswick, I think, has been one of F.E.A.R. 's most successful models. And it is nailing it, right? Yeah. It's the Brunswick case that you know and love. Cushion case, 38 millimeters, 42 lug to lug on this, you know, relatively compact square case. I think I'm reading just under 12 millimeters with the crystal and really close to 11 without.
Andrew 1184 with crystal.
Everett Okay, there we go. And then plated, I think in a traditional method by a gold plating specialist local to England. This is cool. This is cool. A hundred meters of water resistance. So it's definitely a sport watch. Although I think most people would see this and say dress watch. Uh, it is definitely a sport watch in the classic or a logical sense of that phrase. Uh, we've got a top grade at a 7,001, um, 20 millimeter lugs on it and wider.
Andrew Yep. This is going to be. A bit of a strap monster, I think.
Everett Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And it just it looks great. It's coming on this light blue suede, I believe, strap. But I think you're right, Andrew. You could put this on just about anything. Great, but great dial on this thing, too. So this is all gold. We've got gold case, gold dial. Uh, really terrific raised black or dark, dark markers. Onion crown. It's, it's perfect.
Andrew Fierce has a little thick though. A little thick. Fierce has yet to do something I don't like.
Everett Yeah. I mean, at least in this modern iteration, they're, they're all bangers. Um, what do we got? We've got $3,700 excluding VAT. These are non-limited. but there is a limited production. Um, I don't know exactly how many they're going to make, but they are going to be numbered. So non limited edition, but limited production. I'm not sure what the difference is. Maybe it's just, we're going to make them until we're going to make the orders.
Andrew Yeah. Until they stop selling like hotcakes and then we'll hold a little bit of an inventory. I bet. I don't know. So we can expect a good, a healthy inventory of these, I expect.
Unknown Yeah. Yeah.
Everett That's all I have to say about that.
Andrew I can't believe how many gold watches we've talked about.
Everett Alcantara. That's the word I was looking for. The strap is a light blue Alcantara. Alcantara?
Andrew I'm not sure. I don't know.
Everett Alcantara.
Andrew I don't oblo. I said that to some Spanish speaking folks the other day.
Unknown Mm hmm.
Andrew They asked me if I spoke Spanish in Spanish and I said, no, I don't oblo. And they like, Fell out? They fell out. It was like the funniest shit they've ever heard. And I'm laughing too. And I was like, I'm really sorry. Like, but I'm like.
Everett Was this in a professional capacity?
Andrew It was in a professional capacity. So there were a little bit of regerts for, for that. And I was like, eh, whatever. They responded well.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew I was like, I'm sorry. You can talk at me and I can maybe get the gist. And we figured it out. We, we got to where we needed to go.
Everett You got where you need to be.
Andrew Yeah.
Unknown Cool.
Andrew Uh, it started on good footing. You make a joke and you get you get somebody laugh and you win them right off the bat.
Everett Yeah, it either lands or it doesn't. But right. If you if it lands, you're in good shape.
Andrew Yeah. OK, so I have something that I don't recall ever talking about before, which are U.S. exclusive releases from Grand Seiko. And I love this. I do. But they're they're not as I am usually looking at JDM or Europe exclusives. and really lamenting. I love both of these colors. We have the SBGA 507 and 509. Um, and these are both 44 GS. Yep. Uh, so they're, they're paying tribute to the transitioning sky over Lake Suwa with its new regional releases. So as per Grand Seiko, we have a lovely nonsensical story about their color inspirations. We have a really gorgeous kind of speckled with white blue and this red pink. Like kind of watermelon, a color speckled with white, and this is my fucking jam. That is one of the coolest colorways I have ever seen. I absolutely love it. Both really good texture on this on both of the colorways. I'm all about it. These are 300. Pieces each 5600 bucks. And it's Grand Seiko. 12 five thick 40 millimeter case. You call it a dusty rose hue or cool blue. I wouldn't really even call that a cool blue. Cool blue is like, tends to be icier for me. This is a, that's a pretty rich, pretty rich blue.
Everett But definitely, but definitely leaning towards the purple end of blue. I think that's why, what makes it cool.
Andrew I would, I would tend toward white when I think cool blue, like icy. Sure.
Everett uh 9r65 movement yeah i guess what's notable about these is the kirizuri dials right oh yeah yeah but leave that out kirizuri so they've done kirizuri before i think on us releases but kirizuri is like a what a japanese like wood block method that And they're incorporating like a mica powder to give sparkle and curiosity. So these are kind of a sparkly woodblock print type dial. You know, like with all things Seiko, it's like squint a little.
Andrew Yeah, just like laser cut precision on the handset and the applied markers.
Everett Oh, yeah, they Seiko does their thing, man. These are gorgeous. Like many, many, many Grand Seiko things these days, these are expensive and thick. And the 44GS case is terrific, even at the 12.5, I think it is. These are spring drive, 100 meters of water resistance.
Andrew Yeah, 12.5. 9R65 on these? I don't want a power reserve indicator. Oh wow. I get that it's a thing, right? Like if you, if you have a grand Seiko, you have to just accept that there is going to be a power reserve indicator. I just don't want it. It is such a, even as subtle as these are, it is such a huge turnoff for me. I don't see a world where Like barring winning the $2 billion lottery where I'm buying a Grand Seiko with a power reserve indicator. Without it, this like rose color with no power reserve indicator, I'm having a hard conversation with my wife like tonight about getting this watch.
Everett You know, we've got a Grand Seiko, dealer here, AD, here in town. And I've been in and tried on a handful of Grand Seikos. I will say, for my money, the thinner Grand Seikos is where it's at. And they do increasingly, they're doing thinner watches. But even on the thicker watches, the bracelets are incredible. The finishing is incredible. I mean, you put the you put one of these on your wrist and you're like, Oh yeah, I'm wearing a really nice watch. Uh, but the prices, you know, we're talking for 10, 9,000 bucks, 10,000 bucks on some of these watches, you've got just a ton of world. So I don't think Grand Seiko is is missing. Obviously, they're not. They're incredibly successful. They're being slow and deliberate with their releases. Their catalog is in really good shape. But this is a luxury watch. It's sometimes important to remember that. Gone are the days when Grand Seiko was Seiko branded and a value.
Andrew Yeah, that's where King Seiko kind of lives now.
Everett The value proposition isn't necessarily there anymore. And maybe that's just OK. I don't think, I'm not saying that it's a complaint.
Andrew Gone are the days of Tudor being a value younger brother to Rolex.
Everett You can still get a BB-58 for $2,500. That's terrific.
Andrew That's a steal on a, I mean, but that's a not brand new box. You might not even get the box. You might just get papers with it.
Everett How much is a brand new Tudor BB-58?
Andrew Uh, $36,000?
Everett Brand new for under four grand. That's a value. No doubt about it, that's a value. That's a value prop.
Andrew Are they under $4,000?
Everett I'll take, yeah, $4,000 for a brand new BB-58. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's a value prop. At $4,000 flat on the website.
Andrew I think I'll accept your position.
Everett With a cost manufacturer caliber and a five-year guarantee.
Andrew I think I accept your position.
Everett Fine. Fine. Agree to disagree.
Andrew I just, I just.
Everett One more watch. I just accepted. One more watch, Andrew. Fuck you. God damn it. It says the web server is down. So I'm going to have to talk about this from memory.
Andrew Oh, it's going to be. No, no, no. Let's do it. Do it from memory. Cause you don't even know which one you're talking about. Cause there's two watches left.
Everett Oh, well I just have one more. So, Bulova released a lunar pilot in red, and... And it's red. And it's red. And that's all I have to say about that.
Andrew It is down.
Everett Warner World is down.
Andrew My browser's working. Seattle CloudFare working. I'm not sure what that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everett Let's see. Hold on. I can find it.
Andrew I can't even find it. I can't even go backward.
Everett Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ooh, ooh, I found something. So, you know, we do this thing, we read about, you can't memorize all this stuff. Some people do, we're not those people. So this is a 43 and a half millimeter lunar pilot. And it's got a scarlet dial that they're going to call a blood moon, which is a thing that happens.
Andrew Once a month for most women.
Everett Silver tachymeter scale. Uh, high precision quartz and it's red and it's 900 bucks. And I don't believe it comes on a strap, but it, uh, it, it comes on, well, no, it comes with a strap.
Andrew So you get the box set.
Everett I don't believe it comes on a bracelet is what I meant to say.
Andrew I'm looking at, it comes with a, with a bracelet, a box set with a strap.
Everett 900 bucks. This is, and the red is really cool.
Andrew That's, that's what I wanted to say about this. This is one of those watches for me that like I just always want to pull the trigger on. But every time I put it on, it's too big. It's just not for me. And you know, I had that same experience with the Speedmaster up until recently and now have like this weird itch behind my right ear that just won't go away. Um, it lessons whenever you wear your Speedmaster in my house. Uh, but it's a, I love, I love the, the lunar pilot. It's super cool. It's got a great story. Uh, it's a really attractive watch.
Everett Great movement, 262 kilohertz.
Andrew And now that they, and now that they fixed this whole, like if you get it on a strap, you can't put it on a bracelet. Nonsense. Yeah. Uh, which was like almost an inexcusable decision to make. I still don't get that. I still don't get that. Now that they fixed that, the modern iteration is like a, a truly fantastic, no bullshit moon watch that isn't Speedmaster. And there aren't very many of those out there.
Everett Do you feel like this should have a hundred meters of water resistance? Cause that's what I feel.
Andrew I feel that about the Speedmaster too. Yeah. I bet the Speedmaster does have a hundred meters of water resistance. Probably. Yeah. But at this point you can't change it. The, the outcry of the Speedmaster world, if you were to upgrade it to a hundred meters of water resistance would, would, Echo throughout eternity.
Everett Andrew, you said you have another watch you want to talk about?
Andrew No, you sent me two and I closed the link already, so we're... All right.
Everett So it's closed. It's done. There we go. There we go. Did I have one that I didn't talk about?
Andrew Yeah, it was a Nevada Grinch.
Everett Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is an exquisite timepiece. We're not talking about it.
Andrew I already closed the link. It's got purple. Ignore him. Yeah, that's it. I wish this was a dot over 90.
Everett You and my speedy. I don't, I'm okay with it.
Andrew I don't understand the, um, cause I'm not a Speedmaster guy, right? Like I don't own 10 of them.
Everett That's a pretty like high level want.
Andrew Uh, I, these are so fucking heavy too.
Everett I mean, I've been wearing that thing. I would say I've been wearing that thing 60% of the time. I've just been Speedmastering it up and I've been raw dogging it too. No poly watch.
Andrew Just, it's wound though.
Everett So, you know, respect. Yeah, I've been wearing the shit out of it.
Andrew It's because it's so good. I don't know how you don't.
Everett It's so good, man.
Andrew And you got a screaming deal on it. All you do is get hit by a car.
Everett Yeah, it's not hard.
Andrew A little truck, but I'm not going to take away from your experience.
Everett Andrew, other things. What do you got? Hmm.
Andrew So for the last several years, I have been using a. Grocery store pepper grinder. Like, it's just a glass jar with a little plastic brown lid. It grinds my peppercorns when I need. It came like that. When it runs out, I just pour more peppercorns in it.
Unknown Sure.
Andrew It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Fine. It's been doing the thing. I think prior to that, I had a different one that did exactly the same thing. Just like it's the grocery, like you buy it off the shelf and then you open the lid and you just grind your pepper right out of it. Then you can refill it. It's fine. Uh, I'm making breakfast two days ago and I go to make a couple turns of pepper and the center of the fucking thing just, just, just, it falls out. So into my bowl of now of beaten eggs, I have introduced a dozen peppercorns. and probably another dozen in semi-crushed ground, broken up state. And I get kind of, kind of upset. I say, okay. So as people do, I, as people like us do, I'm like, you know what? Fuck this. I'm going to get the right thing. And I've had electric pepper mills before. I've had like, little spinny top. I've had, I don't know, a hundred is an exaggeration, but I've had an easy dozen varieties of pepper mills before. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to go to the internet on this one. And I just do the Google. I'm like, all right, what's the best pepper mill? And I start with what I like. One of my real reliable sources is Wirecutter, right? I trust what Wirecutter says. If they say it is the truth, I will more likely than not accept it as the truth without much fact-checking. Because I just trust them. I don't know if maybe I shouldn't, but I've just never been led astray by a wire cutter. Um, and so I did a little bit of like peripheral looking and kind of the general consensus was, yes, this is the one. So I just bought a Peugeot Perry U-Select pepper mill. They are exactly the Peppermill that you expect them to be. Did I send you a link? Yeah, I sent you a link.
Everett You didn't send a link, but I found it. They're just, I thought I did.
Andrew They're just the Peppermill, right? They are exactly what you'd expect them to be. And that was kind of why I was good with it. Like this is the OG design that all others have been designed after. It is a hundred year old, virtually unchanged design. It costs 45 bucks on Amazon. It'll get here tomorrow. It has a good volume capacity inside. Uh, the one kind of, uh, knock that it got was that you can't see how much pepper is inside of it. And the concern for the writer was, well, sometimes that means I'm out of peppercorns. That's never a concern for me. I have like, the pound jar of peppercorns in my pantry because I use whole peppercorns for things with enough regularity that I just always have them.
Everett Yeah. That seems like a weird concern, right? Like don't use the peppercorns in the dispenser as your gauge for when you need more. Yeah, exactly. Right. It's a really simple.
Andrew Well, and then I think that's just good inventory management of your pantry. Like, If you wait until you're out of something to add it to your grocery list, like shame on you. You, you deserve to be out of whatever it is.
Everett Also move across the street from your best friends so you can just call them up in the middle of the day and be like, can I borrow some?
Andrew Yeah. I need corn starch. Like, okay, dude, it's in the pantry. Uh, I have a well-stocked pantry all the time. Cause when I, when I get to be like 10% on something, it hits the grocery list. I've got back stock, man. Anyway, so I got this.
Everett I replaced the cornstarch by the way.
Andrew You did. You bought a whole, cause it was a new tub of cornstarch that hadn't been broken into yet. And then you just kept that tub. We were out of town or something. So I came home and it was like unchanged. It was just like a new tub was replaced where the old tub had been removed from.
Everett It was the most conscientious thing I've ever done in my life.
Andrew Perhaps. Uh, but I appreciated it. Uh, and I also would not, I'm like, it's cornstarch dude. Uh, But yeah, so I, I've seen these, everyone has seen these. I finally did it. So now next to my salt pig will be a nice looking pepper mill.
Everett You know, they last forever. It's one of those things that it's one of those things. I mean, this is a bit vain, but like you have people come over and like, it's nice to have like conscientious decision-making be displayed, right? This is, it's like a low key thing, but it's like, Oh, I'm conscientious about my tools.
Andrew Yeah. If someone comes into my house kind of like unannounced, I don't expect them. They just happen over and they walk into my kitchen. They're going to see a knife block with an interesting array of like curated, not matching knives, a well-seasoned, well-used Lodge cast iron, probably one other pan on the stove, a salt pig, and now a Peugeot pepper mill right by the stovetop.
Everett I like the logo. I think I'm going to buy one of these. We've been using the Kirkland pepper grinders for.
Unknown Yeah. Cause you buy it.
Andrew It's filled with pepper. You just, you grind right out of it.
Everett But I like, I. It's a bit of a waste. There's a bit of waste involved in that.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. And, and I, that's kind of part of how I justified it. Why I was using the shitty ones. Cause I was like, I already bought it. Like that's totally fine. It does the thing. Uh, and then the middle broke out and I just, I, I almost had a stroke. Oh, so it was such a weird way to break. It was just total catastrophic failure exploded.
Everett Yeah. Uh, Andrew, I've got another thing. Do me. Um, I, how do you feel about hot dogs?
Andrew I love me a hot dog. You know, the other day I saw this, uh, Instagram reel of Japo dogs where you, uh, uh, flour it or egg it, flour it, and then, uh, panko coat it. And then Korean dogs are K dogs. Well, this was called Japo dogs. Cause it was, he, that's what he was calling it. Uh, cause then they, it was like a crab, uh, a crab, uh, mixture on top of it with spicy mayo. I didn't have a imitation crab to do that, but I definitely did deep fried my hot dogs coated in panko. And then I had three. And I took a fucking nap. It was like, finish third one, lights out. Like an hour and a half later, I woke up as if I'd been asleep for days. Like, Oh God, what happened? So that's how I feel about hot dogs. I'm a huge hot dog. It was these hot dogs, by the way.
Everett Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's, that's clever. Um, I really like a beef hot dog. Right. And I don't want a Polish dog. I don't want, like an Eidel sausage that's not a hot dog. I want a beef hot dog. I like Nathan's hot dogs. Uh, they're good. They're always good. They've got good flavor. I also like the Costco dogs that you can buy from the, from the refrigerator section.
Andrew I have one problem with those.
Everett The burps?
Andrew Yes. Yeah. I, and, and I have one, one small story. Sorry to interrupt. Uh, 2020 there was this neighborhood barbecue that they had very deliberately come and dropped off like a stack of invitations to the police department of like, please come by our neighborhood family barbecue. We would love to have you. Um, I worked a late watch, obviously got there after said barbecue. It sounds like an ambush to me. And, and right at the beginnings of a, of a pretty large protest forming at the federal courthouse. But they had brought over these aluminum tray, hundreds of Costco hot dogs. And who can turn down a Costco hot dog, right? So I had probably three Costco hot dogs. Uh, and I, I remember, and I will forever and always have like a taste aversion to Costco hot dogs because that night wearing a gas mask, I could taste CS gas and Costco hot dog burps. It was so bad.
Everett Yeah, the burps from the Costco hot dogs are intense.
Andrew It was just, and you've been in a gas mask before. Like that's, that's your ecosystem that you're living in. And so it was CS gas and Costco hot dogs. Yeah, it wasn't great. So continue.
Everett Well, fair enough. I do really like the Costco hot dogs, but I, I like a, I like a Nathan's hot dog. They're good beef. I don't know if they're good beef. They're beef. They taste good. They taste good. They got good snap. They're a little more mild than a, uh, than a Costco dog, but they're too small. The regular Nathan's hot dogs, just a little bit too small. You either have to have two, you can't have, you can't have one. One, Nathan's hot dog just isn't enough for me. Uh, two is maybe a little bit much with all the bread. Anyway, long story short, I, last time I was shopping for hot dogs, I noticed that Nathan's has released an all beef, what they're calling, a colossal quarter pound beef frank. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna get that. Uh, my first reaction when picking up the package, I was like, Oh my gosh, that's a heavy hot dog package. That is, Oh, this is two pounds of beef. Um, so I took it home. I cooked my very first of these in the way I like to cook hot dogs. Now there'll be people that tell you the only way to cook a hot dog is to grill. I disagree with that. And I'll lay down my gauntlet and you can think what you want of me. But I think the best way to cook a hot dog is to put about two ounces of beer in a, in a frying pan to loosely cover the frying pan, bring it up. So hot dog, two ounces of beer, bring it up to heat, let that beer steam and eventually boil off. And then once the beer boils off, You put a pat of butter in alongside the hot dog and you turn the hot dog in the butter until it's evenly fried on all sides. The beer and the steam brings the hot dog to temp and then you can get the outside crispy in the butter. I think that that is the best way to cook a hot dog. So I cooked this hot dog that way. It's giant. I put a bun on top of the hot dog and then put the lid back on for about 20 seconds. Steam that.
Andrew Hot dog bun.
Everett So the bun gets a little soft and also gets a little like, yeah, it takes on some of the butter on the edges. That's how I like to cook hot dog. And I, I eat this thing and I'm like, this is it. This is perhaps the last hot dog I'll ever eat. And I don't mean, I don't mean the last hot dog. I mean the last type of hot dog. I cannot see myself needing anything else besides this. It was as close to, you know, sometimes you get, you're like, that's the perfect food item. This was the perfect, like if you want a hot dog, it's the perfect hot dog. This is the perfect grocery store hot dog to bring home and eat. Perfect, perfect, perfect.
Andrew They're nice and thick. They're two thirds of the length of a Costco dog, but they're the same, about the same diameter. They're great.
Everett Great. The perfect hot dog. That's my feeling on it. I do not believe I've ever had or will ever have a hot dog that's better than this. Now I like all hot dogs, so I'm not going to be like turning my nose up at other hot dogs, but if you're buying a hot dog to eat at home, packaged hot dog, you'll, you probably won't beat it. Yeah. This is the one, this is the one. And maybe there are analogs to this. I don't know. But I was like, yep, I used to go Hebrew nationals, Hebrew national good.
Andrew Uh, and I ultimately, I, settled on Nathans. And then when I saw these Colossals, I went to the Colossals.
Everett Yeah. I think Hebrew nationals tend to be a little bit beefier, which is sometimes good. But they're like sort of in between the Nathans and the Costco.
Andrew I like the, I like the Nathans.
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Everett Yeah. Hey folks.
Andrew We've done it.
Everett We've done it. Andrew, you have anything you feel like you must say before we go?
Andrew Not anymore.
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