Unimatic Showed up in July (301)

Published on Wed, 31 Jul 2024 22:45:31 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 in 20 Watch Clicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new watch releases and industry news. They cover new models from brands like Casio, Timex, Omega, Christopher Ward, Unimatic, and more. The hosts debate the merits and drawbacks of various designs, movements, and brand strategies. They also touch on topics like the Intersect LA watch event and share some personal recommendations for sunscreen shirts and an underrated superhero movie. Throughout, Andrew and Everett maintain their typical banter and occasionally grumpy commentary on the watch industry.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm doing all right. Uh, I was telling you, I'm feeling a little grumpy, like just like my, like my emotions are a little raw and impatient. I'm like angry about things, so I'm just gonna, this is gonna be a rage show.
Andrew It's a pretty baseline steady state for you.
Everett I don't think so. I mean, I'm perhaps grumpier than normal. I just feel a little like, fuck this.
Andrew I mean, you're carrying around a terrible towel.
Everett Yeah, it's actually a microfiber, Andrew. I'll have you know. I don't know why I have this. It was just in my pocket. Was it, are you sweaty? No, I just had it in my pocket. It's just like in case I need to wipe something gently.
Andrew It's a weird thing to carry about unless you're a Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. They do that.
Everett Perhaps this is, this is actually the Kirkland microfiber towel, which. So it's superior to. This is like a bonus other thing, but if you ever go to the auto body or the like auto store and buy their little packs of microfibers, they suck. spend like three extra bucks and go to Kirkland because their microfiber towels are, go to Costco because the microfiber towels are vastly superior.
Andrew Yeah, but you gotta then also pay for an annual membership and it's a whole thing.
Everett Yeah, but I mean if you've got a Costco membership.
Andrew I do. Yeah, I know. Not everyone does.
Everett Yeah, but like most people. You know, on a Sunday morning, you would think... Most people who are listening to this show, let's say that. I don't mean to be exclusionary, but in reality, the people listening to this show have Costco memberships.
Andrew Are they executive members though? That's the real question. I don't even know what that is. It's the black card. It used to be the executive membership could get you in an hour early, but now it offers rewards. I've never been sent rewards from them. I don't know if maybe I don't spend enough money at Costco somehow.
Everett Is that just a credit card, like the black credit card with the red writing on it?
Andrew No, it's just the tiers of membership.
Everett We've got a black Costco credit card that we use to buy all of our Costco stuff on, and I think we get something from it. Kim knows all that stuff.
Andrew Yeah, she does the numbers.
Everett Yeah, when she says, hey, we've got these rewards, and I go, cool.
Andrew Can I get something with them? Andrew, how are you? I'm good. I'm a little hot. We had a couple cooling days, which was terrific. And then today was right back into the mid 90s. So I'm just a little, a little warm. And for those of you at home, Everett knows this, uh, our recording room, the, it's, it's not a super comfortable room. It gets way hot. It gets way cold. Uh, it's not very well climate controlled.
Everett I don't know why. It always seems fine for me. I'm always fine up here.
Andrew Uh, last couple of weeks ago, I had to take a break right in the middle of the episode. I had to take out, take a step out and get some air. It was cooking hot, but I'm, I am by and large good. I'm a, I'm a little bit tired of hot summer and I can kind of get down with like 80 degree days again.
Everett I, you know, I feel like I need to move to Mexico or something because I could do 95 degrees every day, like literally every day. I'd be fine with it.
Andrew No, that would, uh, I'd be very sad.
Everett I just like hot. I like hot. Give me hot. I like being outside when it's hot. I like all the things about it.
Andrew Not me.
Everett The only thing I don't like, if I'm sleeping, I want a good 60 to 65 degrees at night. Yes. But during the day, 106, 96, all good. All good. I like to feel sweaty and love it. Gross. I'd much rather that than like 40 for six months in a row. I fucking hate that.
Andrew I want it to be colder than 40. 40 is a shitty temperature.
Everett You want it to be colder than 40?
Andrew Yeah, like 20 degrees and like just a light cloud cover.
Everett Never. Never. I could go the rest of my life without ever being below freezing again. No, I love that air. Uh, Andrew, we're not here to argue about the appropriate temperature. even though it's 95. Rather, we're here to talk about watches. Watches. I guess we kind of talked about watches last week, but not really. This is our 301st episode. 301. Of Wordy and Twentieth Watchmaker Podcast. I don't know what that means. It feels like maybe that's a thing. Like, oh, this is episode 301. But it's not. But we didn't talk about any new watches last week. And there I just I'm gesticulating. Don't worry about it. I'm just looking around based on my hand flapping. Well, you're pointing. I just like I'm gesticulating, which is different, not sexual.
Andrew Yeah, well, it wasn't not not sex.
Everett It could be. Yeah. Three hundred and one episodes. And now we're going to talk about watches.
Andrew Finally, you guys have held in there for a long time.
Everett This is a cool one. We had two weeks and there were some really fucking interesting releases. In fact, this is probably, we had a low overlap. We had low overlap this week.
Andrew We did. You're right.
Everett There were a handful of overlaps.
Andrew Kind of the ones to be expected.
Everett Yeah. The stupid Timex watch.
Andrew I like it. I ain't stupid. You're stupid. You sent me a stupider watch. I don't think I did. Undoubtedly. I'm going to start. So Casio Edifice, which I think is a brand, and it's even called out in this article that it's a a segment of Casio's portfolio that we as watch people just look right past. And I don't think we have a good excuse for it because there's some bangers in the Edifice line and they're all affordable. They're all spec'd out. They're all filled with Casio technology. And most of them, well, I won't say most, many of them are really good looking watches and deserve a place in the conversation that we have on a regular basis. We get kind of focused on G-Shock and sort of move past it. So, uh, a special edition Casio Edifice, which is like in perfect Casio form is doing a limited edition to celebrate 50 years of Tom's racing with an Edifice Tom's inspired chronograph, the Casio Edifice Suspension.
Everett This is basically a Lexus. This watch is a Lexus.
Andrew Yes. It is. So Tom's racing is really famous for aftermarket racing parts, uh, for Toyota and Lexus primarily. They do a lot of work in that space. They work with these racing teams. Uh, so it has a, a really interesting relationship with racing, with the auto world, with these brands and with the people who love these brands. So, Here's the special edition, and it's big, right? It's based on, it's the Edifice chronograph platform, so it's robust. Let me pull up the sizing here. 44 and a half across, 13 three thick, 50.1 lug to lug. It's a big bitch. But it's also a racing chronograph that's like meant to be big, bulky, bold.
Everett Can you say the name of this watch again? Suspension. I want you to say it with a little growl. Suspension. Suspension.
Andrew Right? I don't, I don't, I didn't do any reading into the name, but this is, this is a fun release. It's really bright and colorful. And the amount of, um, tributes that they snuck in to this 44.5 millimeter case is super fun. So we have the Tom's logo on the three o'clock above the edifice. with this purple kind of mesh inlay into it. There's a ghosted 36 in the bottom left corner of the dial. The hubs, a set of rims that they're famous for are featured in the 12 and six o'clock sub dials. This is just like a loaded up with fun little treats for people who give a shit about Tom's Racing. It's not really my space, but I saw this and really liked it for what it was.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett I mean, I love the watch and I love Tom's and like I've wanted to like buy some sort of Tom's part for my LS430. They make a ton of Tom's parts for the LS430, but they're all super expensive. They're all available only in Japan. So like for instance, I think there's like a supercharger for my car that I could put on it. It's but just so I could put like a Tom sticker on it somewhere.
Andrew You know, if you went and bought a pair of Tom's shoes and put that sticker in the back window, people might believe it. People might believe it. And you'll have bought two pairs of shoes.
Everett With that said, I think this watch for me, it feels like a little bit of a mismatch. So it's based on the Toyota Starlet, which is one of these. It's like one of the it's like when Ford made the Focus RS a few years ago, like they took their shittiest base platform and made a super rad, hot hatch, all-wheel drive car that's like a legit platform for building up a race car. This is what this was based on. This watch doesn't feel like that to me, right? This is a pretty futuristic case with cutouts and I don't know. I kind of wish they'd done something that felt more in the spirit of what this was. This watch just feels like, oh, this is a cool watch. Let's do some details. Like, why not carry it through the whole concept? It just doesn't feel like a Tom's. Maybe not. Or a, you know, a 1970s starlet. Whatever. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
Andrew I think you are a little bit, because it is a Casio Oedipus.
Everett Yeah, but there's so many really, really, really cool Casio Oedipus watches that don't get made anymore, that would instantly sell out if they did, or would have a huge following. What's the one that I always think about? Whatever. There are these chronographs that Casio made in the 2000s and the 90s that are today, you know, people say, Oh, if you get your hands on one of these, they're really cool. They're quartz watches. They're simple, they're cheap, but they're hard to find. And like, if you take a platform like that, really sort of modernize it a little bit, keep it affordable and then give it this treatment, like that would feel more anyway, I'm overthinking it. This is a really cool watch carbon reinforced.
Andrew Oh yeah. I didn't even get to that part.
Everett I mean, the details on this thing. Beautiful. I love the wheels at the nine and 12. Um, the colors are terrific, please. And thank you. Totally terrific colors. But at some point I'm like, nah, this is not a watch that I actually want to put on my wrist.
Andrew No, but I liked that it exists.
Everett Yeah. I do wish that it was a little bit cooler because it's a cool watch. The idea is really cool. The watch in my mind just kind of sucks.
Andrew It could be a little bit of a miss. Yeah, I'm I'm pleased with it. But you're not going to get it.
Everett No, that's not my because it's stupid.
Andrew Well, yeah, but also like if I'm going to drop 300 bucks on a novelty watch, it's probably not. That's probably not the novelty du jour.
Everett So yeah, let's make it a cool watch. It's such a fucking stupid watch.
Andrew Stupid watch.
Everett I told you I was grumpy. You at home. I warned you. I warned you. I'm going to talk about another stupid watch, although you like this one. Timex unveils the 1975 Enigma reissue, a tribute to the mystery dial. So a mystery dial is a thing that I actually had to learn about a little bit. Because I was like, they're talking about mystery dial as if it's a thing I should know about and I don't.
Andrew Didn't, yeah. I just thought it was an Enigma.
Everett like from how I met your mother when they they named the bar puzzles and that's the puzzle right right I was like oh okay it's the enigma okay so we don't need to get into all the details about mystery dials although I will say it might be a fun sort of part of a show you know complications or lesser-known complications or I'm not sure a mystery dial is actually a complication but I think you could talk about it in that context anyway that's a conversation for another day. Essentially, what I understand a mystery dial to be is a dial which uses either some sort of, some sort of sleight of hand or other sort of illusory mechanics to make it appear that the time telling is floating on the dial.
Andrew Yes. Some kind of design to create an optical illusion at various angles.
Everett That's right. So that the, the timekeeping is happening sort of ethereally in some sort of floating fashion. Well, Timex has done this in a particularly sort of Timex way, which is to say, let's, let's simplify this. And really all they've done is they've matched most of the hands to the dial in terms of color and then taken a bit of dial colored paint and put it on the underside of the crystal to hide the post.
Andrew I think this will look super dumb in person. It will constantly look like there is a smudge or something on the crystal. And I think this is a fun release and I really appreciate the reissue and kind of this playful decision. But I also think they could have done better than just a big blue smudge. Yeah.
Everett Well, and I'm actually okay with that because I think that's true to the original. And I can appreciate it. This is an H case, sort of tonneau cased, beautiful Q Timex quartz watch. It's selling for 200 bucks, which is not nothing for a Timex. This obviously is not a cheap Timex. It's made all of the rounds, lots of people talking about it, lots of people posting about it. Size is terrific. 37 millimeters by 12 thick, which is a touch thick for a quartz watch, but... For a cheap watch, though... It's in the range. Yeah. 50 meters of water resistance. Fine. Bracelet looks whatever. Period. Correct. Whatever. The undersized crown, I'd say. I have one major problem. At 200 bucks, Timex has given us a no-name movement, which they often do, but one of the things that I think sort of set Timex's best releases, so Timex has released a number of really good watches in the last two to three years, right? Really, really good watches. Almost to a watch, those have used pretty nice, mostly Japanese movements. By not telling us what movement it is in this thing, I can guarantee this is a shitty, perhaps Chinese movement, and I'm disappointed in you, Timex. Like, give me this watch with a Seiko quartz movement. Give me something here to let me know you care about this watch. It's a neat release, but if you're going back to your old ways, which is to say, we're going to make you something modestly attractive with a no-name movement. Like how far away are they from releasing this in plated brass, right? Yeah. Like just do the things, Timex.
Andrew Yeah. Do the things that you've been doing. They're casing the target area, I think. They dropped some bangers. They dropped some misses. I think they're trying to dial in that sweet spot.
Everett That's probably true. And again, that's critical. We're, you know, we're just a bunch of guys. We're a couple of guys just talking about watches and that's my thought on this one.
Andrew Yeah, I dig this. I think the idea behind a no-name movement is there part of it is this isn't just a watch for watch people. This is kind of a novel-y watch that's going to have some appeal to a much bigger market. Sure. Just watch people. It doesn't watch people care about the name of movement. It doesn't.
Everett But, but like how much is a psycho courts movement? I mean, we are talking about maybe 250 versus 200 and it could be that there's some, some like price point shopping happening here, but I, I don't think this is a great decision for them. And I think it's, it's maybe looking backwards. With that said, the dial's terrific. Really like clean dial, not a lot going on. You've got a minute track that's in a lighter blue on the outside. Beautiful anthracite, kind of blue anthracite color on the dial. I actually think it's a gorgeous watch. Great red lollipop on the second hand. I like a lot of this. I like a lot of this.
Andrew But as you say, it's a stupid watch.
Unknown It's a stupid watch because it's got this... It kind of is.
Andrew It's a miss. It's a Timex miss. They pulled a Citizen. Give me a good movement, Timex.
Everett Give me a good movement. Yeah. Or at least not a nothing movement, right? I'm tired of nothing quartz movements. I'm not going to buy a nothing quartz movement.
Andrew It might be a baller and they just start trying to, you know, not flex too hard.
Everett It's not. It's not. They'd tell us. Don't give me a shitty quartz movement, Timex.
Andrew We are going to talk about G-Shock today. G-Shock has released its fifth NASA-themed watch. This is a limited edition, and this is interesting to me for two reasons. Number one, it's just a fun NASA watch. With the fun Easter egg being when you activate the lume, you can see behind, and kind of mixed into the text of your dial, gravity and the mathematic equation for Gravity. Here's where it got interesting, because that's, you know, that's a neat little NASA thing. It's like, oh, fun. It doesn't look like a space suit there. You know, they're giving me an all black 6900. This is a lottery. You have to put in for the lottery between now and July 22nd. So that's over. The lottery is done. In order to buy this watch, you had to lottery in and be drawn to be able to buy this watch for $170. Do you recall G-Shock doing this before? I can't think of the last lottery purchase watch that I saw. And it is weird. And I'm really lamenting what this is going to do in the secondary market for this $170 watch. It's a cool watch, right? It's NASA themed, it's got a fun little gravity and equation in your dial when you illuminate it. Just make enough, or don't. Don't do it weird like that. That's what really got my attention, was the lottery. I'm still stuck on it.
Everett Yeah, it's an interesting way to do this. I think it's a weird decision. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, it's a black NASA branded. 6,900. 6,900. Yeah.
Andrew Sure. It's, it's a weird choice.
Everett Yeah. They've done a lot to sort of make us feel like there's some cool stuff going on here. There really isn't. You know, unless you're a real, you know, unless you really want this watch or unless you are just a 6900 collector or whatever, I can't see a lot of reasons to get like super excited. The lottery is interesting though.
Andrew No, there's no reason to get super excited about this unless you have all the other four NASA watches, like NASA themed watches. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's a, it's a bit of a head scratcher for me.
Everett A few years back, Tissot introduced the Heritage 1938, which, you know, like so many Tissot's, I'm like, this is cool, but man, you know, the, I think my biggest problem with the Heritage 1938 was that it came in like this, I think pretty, weird colorway. So it had this salmon in black gilt dial. And anyway, and I think there was also, yeah, so there's black and gilt and then salmon with black markers. And I just didn't love the colorways. The black one was gilt, but it really looked sort of fotina. The salmon was just kind of like whatever. But it was this chronometer grade, pretty interesting, simple watch. They got released with a bunch of other cool Tissot, so sort of like, in my mind, flew under the radar a little bit.
Andrew It got pushed out of the playroom because it wasn't the coolest one of the bunch.
Everett And at the end of the day, I just don't think it was a very cool watch. I mean, the watch was cool, but I think it wasn't a very attractive watch.
Unknown I feel comfortable saying that.
Everett Like if you have one and you love it, perfect. I think that's great. There's a lot of variety in watches. This was a watch that I'm like, I just don't like the way it looks. That's changed.
Andrew In a big way.
Everett That's changed because Tissot just released this with a really attractive kind of creamy silver dial with blue accents. So blue hands, blue dial accents. We're still talking about a COSC certified automatic watch for under a thousand bucks.
Andrew Yeah, under a thousand bucks.
Everett And now that doesn't look stupid.
Andrew This watch should have been in this color all along.
Everett I really do like this a lot. And all of a sudden, I'm noticing all these little things about this watch that I'm like, yep. Have you ever seen the crown on this watch? The little... The crown on this watch is stunning, and this silver dialed version made me realize something about the original, which is that the markers are raised and really, really very attractive. All of a sudden, the dial has a ton of depth with this new color way, and it's like, oh, Oh, Tissot, not only did you have good fonts on this thing, which I never realized before because the colors were so unappealing to me, but everything about this watch is terrific. It's a $1,000 cost certified dress watch coming in at 39 by 11 millimeters with a reasonable amount of water resistance and
Andrew Yes, please. 50 meters on it. This is... Yes, please. Blue leather strap. Steel mesh bracelet included. This looks really good on the mesh.
Everett And look, it's a 2824. I mean, the movement's not going to win any horology awards, but it's a COSC certified 2824-2. And this is a fucking dope watch. So I'm sorry, Tiso, for never paying attention to your watch, but make it in a color that I want. And thank you for having done so now. This is a really terrific watch. It is. Great size. Beautiful details. Simple and beautiful at the same time.
Andrew This is my style of watch.
Everett Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of watches that I could sort of compare this to. I won't, because it doesn't really make sense. I mean, really, in this colorway, all of a sudden, you're like, ooh.
Andrew This has jumped into a lot of conversations about some of the best affordables out there. Because the bang for your buck, there are not many COSC-certified watches under $1,000.
Everett I want a mechanically impressive or mechanically capable watch under $1,000 that is dressy and that I could wear every day. Hey, one of the watches you might want to look at it is this. Oh, well, that'd be cool. Dial colors weren't stupid. Well, here you go.
Andrew And the fonts on it make it like feel a little sporty. That Tissot logo is just like a little splash of flair to an otherwise very, very subtle watch.
Everett Yeah. And I actually don't have anything to complain about about this watch. I mean, with the with the original, I do think we talked about the original when it came out. You know, it's like Tissot always has little things. I've got nothing about this watch that I'm not like, yep, yep, yep, yep. Check, check, check, check, check.
Andrew Nothing to complain about. I got nothing either. Thanks, Tissot. You did a good thing. Way to go. Way to clean up your mess. So I got one. We might have talked about this when it released, but I'm in April, right? So we're a couple months out from the release. The Victorinox Dive Pro. We didn't talk about this. I don't know if we talked about it a lot or at all. I remember seeing it and being kind of interested and just kind of moving on. I came across an article talking about them again and they really caught my attention. So titanium diver or steel, quartz or automatic, This is kind of a choose your own adventure coming from Victorinox. The size on it is not insignificant. They are a, oh gosh, let me find it. I have a couple of websites up of it. 43 millimeter case, 21 lug width, 14 millimeters tall. So it's, it's big, right? But in titanium and with 300 meters of water resistance, That is going to kind of disappear. You're not dealing with that huge chunk of steel. You're dealing with a specked out cool dive watch. And these are fascinating. So the bezels on these are everything but normal. Everything but what you'd expect. They have what's this an octagon beveling on your round bezel coinage Grip on the outside, single 12 o'clock lume pip.
Everett Hexagon.
Andrew Hexagon. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. That's an octagon. ISO certified to be a pro diver, anti-magnetic. These are just kind of baller tool watches. Problem here with it, just right away. 21 millimeter lugs. Come on.
Unknown What? Meh. What?
Andrew Meh. This is... I came back to it, did some more looking at pictures, and realized that I super like these. Between $1,000 and $1,500, because there's a ton of options, right? You've got steel, titanium, quartz or automatic. They cap out at $1,500. This black PVD coated titanium that's just all murdered out with great color accents, $1,500. And I don't know why it's a hard pill for me to swallow thinking of Victorinox being a player in that price range. I don't know what it is about Victorinox makes me struggle to accept them as real legitimate watchmakers, though I know that they are. I struggle to have a Swiss Army knife and a watch and also a fragrance line all in the same house.
Everett Yeah, I'll maybe play devil's advocate here and say that 10 years ago, 15 years ago, Victorinox had a portion or a percentage of its catalog focused on watch-centric, horology-centric, maybe not horology-centric, but watch-enthusiast watches. And I really think that they've mostly done away with that. I think that the Inox gets a nod from people for being what it is, but it's not really the Victorinox of, say, you know, 1997, where they were both making, you know, run-of-the-mill shopping mall brand watches and making, like, more, you know, they had their professional line making more legitimate timepieces. So I think that they are maybe straddling a line and it's unappealing for I think most of the people in our world, right? Yeah. I do think Victorinox could fix that by making a few sort of enthusiast focused watches.
Andrew By doing stuff like this.
Everett I don't think this does it.
Andrew This is close, right? If this had a Raven logo at the 12 o'clock, I'm all in.
Everett Yeah, you might be right. I think this is still a bit too much of a straddle for them to convince me that they're making an effort to be a watch company again. This is like a shopping mall watch. Maybe. That's got a little bit of extra zhush. I think that if they want to do it, develop your watch enthusiast focused watches like give me a few like dope watches and then have a line that I can recognize. I mean this is marketing right. So and who am I. But I think for me that would be the play here. Like communicate to me that you're focused on me and then and then give me a reason to want to get back into you as a brand. You know I've got a 90s Victorinox watch with a 5750 chronograph made for the Swiss Air Force.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett And it's sick. And there's nothing that Victorinox makes today that's anywhere near as cool as that.
Andrew No, not by not by a long shot.
Everett And so like communicate to me by way of your releases that you're going to make cool shit again. And maybe I'll get excited about it. This is a cool watch. Undoubtedly it's a cool watch. I'd wear it. I'd probably buy it. But it's still a brand that I'm not prepared to say.
Andrew Victorinox is back. No, and I don't even know this is an indicator of them dipping their toes in the water.
Everett Right. I think that's right. I think maybe that's the point I'm trying to make. Instead, I just said a bunch of words. It's okay. Word vomit. It's all right.
Andrew It happens.
Everett Fuck you. I'm grumpy, Victorinox. It's our show. Hey, a company that does continue to make really cool watches, Omega. Omega. Have you heard of this company?
Unknown Swiss company?
Andrew Oh, I saw one of their logos behind some swimmers earlier today.
Everett So it's the Olympics. So Omega's released a ton of cool shit in the last couple of weeks. Yeah. And the one I want to talk about is probably the one that most people would have grown about.
Andrew The stupidest watch we're going to talk about tonight.
Everett Oh, coming in a long line of stupid watches, Omega's released the Moon Swatch Mission to the Super Blue Moonphase. And I love it.
Andrew And I love it. How many SKUs of Moonphase are there? I think probably 200,000.
Everett No, I think there are 13 or 14 at this point.
Andrew No way, because then you got the golden whatever and all the other special editions. There's got to be 75.
Everett And I'm okay with that. And I'll tell you why I'm okay with that. Because it's very much in the spirit of Swatch, right? Short run releases. These are the cool watches from this year's catalog. I actually think it's terrific. I think it's terrific. There's enough of them that there's no FOMO. I really do, I actually love everything they've done with this line. I hear people say things like, and they say it in this way that's like, yes, of course, this is right. You know that, you know, but the attitude is, oh, well, Omega's jumped the shark with these or whatever, right? This is like, they just keep releasing SKUs.
Unknown I'm like, yes, yeah, release, keep releasing these, keep making these because these are freaking cool.
Everett And if everybody can get one who wants one, please.
Andrew But I want to be able to buy it from not a person. I want to be able to buy it from a retailer, brand new in box. Well, sorry. I don't want, I don't want. You can't always get what you want. Somebody opening their trench coat and revealing to me the 35 SKUs they have in their, in their jacket.
Everett All right, so two things. One, we've got a pulsometer on the scale, and I don't think that there are any other moon swatches with a pulsometer scale. And we've got a moon phase, which, man, it's a good looking moon phase. This is an homage to the blue moon of August this year. Blue moon being the second full moon in a month, is that right? I think so. And it's got just a beautiful, lovely, creamy dial with wonderful navy accents, a great sort of cornflower slash royal blue case. I mean, it's just blue on blue on blue. And yeah. All right, swatch. All right, Omega. I'm here for it. I love the Swiss Pulsament. Yes. Yes. I'm good. I love it.
Andrew This is maybe... My real complaint about so many SKUs is that I have yet to buy one because I'm always holding out for, well, what's the next one going to be? Am I going to like it more?
Everett I mean, they're 300 bucks. So just buy the one you want.
Andrew But I kind of want them all.
Everett Like Demartini. Yeah. You know, I bought the Mission to Mars. I love it. I wear it certainly once or twice every month. I think it's terrific, and I have nothing bad to say about it. As an owner, it is exactly what I wanted it to be. The quality of that watch is better than I think I have any expectation for, given what it is, right? And I just have no complaints. I think these are really cool. I like them. Uh, is it a cash grab? We also call that capitalism. Uh, so maybe, maybe in the context of capitalism, it's a cash cash grab. I think the final thing I'll say about this watch, but I think it's maybe my favorite detail. So the moon phase, it's sort of a double arc moon phase where you have the top and the bottom apertures revealing the moon. the phase of the moon. In the middle of that, in the middle of that, from what I can tell, not really visible in normal light, is a superluminova line of text that says super blue moon. Have you seen this? Yeah, this is cool. I'm sorry, it's another moon swatch. I'm sorry.
Andrew It's really impressive how well they disguised it on that dial.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew A fun little Easter egg.
Everett Yeah. Oh, listen to this. I have all the characteristics of a human being, blood, flesh, skin, hair, but not a single clear identifiable emotion except for greed and disgust. Uh, this is Patrick Bateman. Uh, quote, like people are so grumpy. I think it's fun and I think watches are fun and I think this is a fun watch and I'm good with it.
Andrew You want to know one one last fun thing about it? Sorry. Only between August 1st and August 19th are they available and only after 5 p.m. at the Swatch retailers. That's rad. It's stupid, but it's also fun. You know, it's it's a shtick, right? The whole thing. This is a novelty watch. And I don't think they have ever attempted to make it anything else. Do fun shit with it.
Everett They are having fun. Well, I assume someone's having fun and I'm having fun and I like this watch and I want it. If you're, if you are, I'm going to put this out to the world. If you are at a swatch dealership during those months and you buy me one, I will pay you $25 plus shipping for that watch. I'm just going to say that if you message me and say, Everett, I got your moon swatch. Here's my, what I paid. I'll give you 25 bucks plus what it costs to ship it to me.
Unknown Hmm.
Andrew Quite the offer. Cause I love it. Quite the offer. Ooh. Oh, next up for me. Uh, Intersect LA was this last weekend. Sure was. And it was a show. Hang on. I have to find this. 600 plus attendees. 20 brands. Holy cow. Just looking at pictures of it, it is banging. I would love to talk to somebody who was there. Maybe we should have Wes and Colin on here in the next couple of weeks. That's a great idea.
Everett Yeah, that's a great idea. Because they've really grown that.
Andrew I love seeing this for so many reasons. Number one is that I think watch shows like this that are very much Watch centric, less trade show centric, but just watch centric are so important. It looks like so much fun. We love the people who are putting it on and are making it happen. More is absolutely more, uh, Chicago, not Chicago. Um, Austin is in November. I need to get to one of these.
Everett You know, they're obviously pulling in big hitters. I think Wes and Cullen, since the very first days of the very first Intersect, have had a vision for this, and I think they're pulling it off. I think they're doing a great job. I will say, I saw some pictures of Wes, and I think he's getting, like, swole. You see? Yeah, Wes used to be a skinny guy.
Andrew He's like, man. He put on 30 pounds of muscle. Yeah, jeez.
Everett If you see him, congratulate him for me. Really, really fun show. I think if you have an opportunity to get to one of these, all these guys are just terrific. So this is cool.
Andrew And the lineup of brands there is just phenomenal. Yeah, it's super cool. Tell us how it was for anybody who went. Sorry you had to be in L.A. for it, though.
Everett I'm going to talk about a watch that I'm not going to buy and that nobody is going to own until 2026. Okay, so this is a watch that was announced in the last month. So it's been in the world for a little bit. The idea of it anyway, because these are set to ship at some point in 2026. What this watch is, is the Horage Revolution 3 Micro Reg. And I'm just going to give you some details here before we talk about the watch. So this is a pre-order price of 3,900 Swiss francs now.
Andrew So it's like that 4,400 bucks-ish.
Everett Which is a discount of the eventual retail price of 6,900 francs.
Andrew Strike while the iron's hot.
Everett But there is also a package that you can get in, I don't know if these are available still, but this is a micro reg founder supporter package, which you don't actually get a watch. It's just a $300 voucher for the watch for $150 Swiss francs. So Oraj is saying, this is cool. And we think you guys might be into this. And so we're going to let you get in on just the idea of this. However, it's not going to ship until 2026, because we were doing a lot of things here. So what is it? Okay, it's a watch. uh it is a watch where the movement has been installed upside down so that from the front side you see the micro rotor uh and and the workings of the movement but but actually that's not the most important part what this is is a watch that is going to be able to be regulated by the user at home using a little device that plugs into the watch from the sides of the case at 4 and 10. This is a new technology developed by a Swiss engineering firm called Mini Swiss, and it allows the user to regulate the watch within a second. No, 0.1 seconds. 0.1 seconds in an already cost-certified movement at your leisure. You just say, you know what, my watch is... I lost half a second today.
Andrew Don't know where that went.
Everett You know, I think really one of the most interesting things you and I talk about with regards to watches is just how anachronistic they are. The best watches are anachronistic compared to say, uh, uh, an Apple watch, right. Or, or, you know, even perhaps, uh, uh, a radio controlled watch or something with some sort of connectivity.
Andrew Yeah. One of like the six band eco drives, right.
Everett Even, even like, uh, uh, uh, high accuracy courts, thermal compensated, whatever. Like that's not the best way to tell time in 2024. Right. Like it's a very good way to get a relatively accurate analog impression of what the time might be, but most of us have the ability to know exactly what the time is at any given moment because of the way.
Andrew Yeah. Like have you ever checked your watch and be like, Oh, I lost some time and check your phone and be like, yep, I did.
Everett Right. Right. So this, this watch Haraj obviously making a ton of really cool movements. This is a watch that allows you to be more precise than any other mechanical watch on earth, I'd say, over time, right? Because you are going to, within a moment, be able to regulate this watch. Yeah, every day when you put it on. About as close as you need and then set it to the accurate time and go on about your life. You don't need to regulate it every day because it's also going to be incredibly accurate. I think what we have here, and you know, there are a lot of things that affect mechanical movements, humidity, elevation, the way you wear it, the type of movements you do, but there's something to be had here. It actually tells time on both the front and the back, but the front is a little bit tricky to read. It's sort of a digital side scrolling thing on the outside. I don't know. I haven't spent a lot of time looking at that.
Andrew It looks like a, almost a, like
Everett um like an old old digital yeah that's right display but then on the back you have a traditional three-hand display on which looks cool shit yeah that's a cool movement this is a space view this is the modern version of a space view well it does have some aesthetic similarities i don't know that outside of that there's a lot but yes yes i hear what you're saying Yeah, I think this is terrific, and I'm probably not going to dump the money on this, but I think enough people will. This is cool. This is actually horology happening. Like, Haraj is doing horology.
Andrew Right before our very eyes, and letting you participate.
Everett It's pretty cool.
Andrew In a number of ways, actually, you could participate.
Everett It's so out of left field. It's like, is it important?
Andrew Did we need this technology? Maybe. Maybe.
Everett Yeah, maybe. And I'm not sure we need it in quite this enigmatic of a package. Maybe not. But I do think that the technology could be translated to just about any mechanical movement on the face of the earth, right? This movement is not in and of itself special. I mean, it is for a number of reasons that I'm not going to talk about right now. But the idea here, the idea here is this ability to home regulate a mechanical watch. And I think that this technology could be applied to a 2824 or a 9015 or a fucking NH35, right? Theoretically, this technology could be applied to any mechanical movement you wanted. And that's cool. Now, if you've got problems with your movement, it might not fix them. But if it's just a timing deviation, this is cool. I agree.
Andrew Next, Christopher Ward, Trident Pro 300 with a new feature, the GMT coming in three, two really good colorways, one bizarro land. Uh, we have that Arctic crisp white with a white and blue bezel powder. What do we call that? Powder blue? No. Cornflower blue, GMT hand. This one? No, not that trash. On the white. Oh yeah, that's cornflower. I'll call that, I accept. Cornflower blue, GMT hand, a blue dial, same cornflower with a cornflower and navy bezel, a weird white to teal kind of sunburst ombre thing with a steel bezel. That's a big pass for me. These are the Trident Pros right there. We know this watch. It's a 40 millimeter case. It's the light catcher. It's beautiful. 40 millimeter case, 11.8 thick. And on a GMT, that's doing something, especially when you take into consideration it's got 300 meters of water resistance, 20 millimeter lugs, Uh, so three strap and bracelet options, the three link baiter, the five link consort and the tapered FKM AquaFlex. I've not actually handled any FKM from Christopher Ward, so I can't speak to that, but I know that their bracelets are money. Uh, Selita SW330-2 movement. And these are coming in at $1,195 on the rubber, $1,380 on the 3-link, and $1,420 on the 5-link. Under $1,500, ProDiver GMT. Fuck yes. I don't know who's getting the weird color one, but that blue? That's for me.
Everett Actually, the more I'm looking at this, I think this is not a true... Cornflower's got a little bit of purple in it. It's, it's more of a green than that. I don't know what you'd call this. Tiffany, maybe this is pretty, it's a, it's a lighter blue. It's, it's, it's a good color. Uh, yeah. Andrew, I'm with you. I mean, it's not a whole lot to say.
Andrew No, it's the, it's the pro 300 with a GMT functionality.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember. I read an article about this. Was it this whole dinky article where the author called Christopher word, uh, The cheapest, most expensive watches in the world.
Andrew No, the maker of cheap. Yeah, but they're their words, apparently. Just for what it calls themselves, the maker of the cheapest, most expensive watches in the world.
Everett I think that's terrific because yeah, yeah, I really don't like that. That yellow and. No, it is. It's got like a Yachtmaster style bezel.
Andrew Ew. Ew. That one is a miss. I don't know who they're making that for. Uh, but the other two, it's not for me, but the white and the blue, uh, the blue is fantastic. I think I'd actually like the bezel swapped. I think the white and that white Navy bezel on the blue.
Everett Yeah, I can see that.
Andrew Yeah, that would look Chris get both and then you can just, yeah, yeah.
Everett It'd have a bit of a R2D2 vibe a little bit. Yeah. Make the GMT hand read.
Andrew Ooh, see now we're onto something here. Christopher Ward needs to collab with us. I'll call Mike.
Everett Cool. Which one? Either one. You know, I'm going to call Mike France.
Andrew I think they would both take our calls.
Everett They would. Yeah, I could call Mike Pearson right now probably. I won't. Okay, we have two Unimatics on the list. We haven't talked about either. Four. Well, five perhaps. So first, I'm going to talk about the Unimatic tool watch series and then maybe we can just go right into the other one. Unimatic is such a weird brand, right?
Andrew It is an enigma.
Everett They make expensive watches that are actually pretty cheap, which are all kind of weird and good, but also weird. They make dive watches that don't really look functional for diving. What is Unimatic? I don't know, but I like it. What's the meme of the girl that tastes I've got to figure out what this is called. She's like, no, no, no. I don't remember what she said.
Andrew The roller coaster of reactions.
Everett That's right. That's how I feel about it. So they introduced, I think, only their second ever permanent line of watches today, and they're calling them the tool watch line. These are watches. They're quartz watches. Okay, let's just get it out of the way. They're quartz watches. They're quartz watches that are made to MIL-STD-810, which is the United States military standard of testing for military equipment or one of the standards for testing. It involves dropping shit from like way up in the sky and having it still work afterwards and stepping on it, getting it wet. That's right. You know, you gotta wear it in your butt for a little bit.
Andrew That's extra testing. That's just a rite of passage.
Everett They've made four of these. Really, what they've done is they've made two of these, a field watch and a dive watch, both in either a three-hand or a GMT version. They're calling these, the fields watch, the Quattro UT4 and the UT4 GMT. And then they're calling the dive watch the Modelo Uno. UTI. That was such a bad decision. UT1 and UT1 GMT. Now, 40 millimeters on the UT4, the field watch, and 41 millimeters on the UTI.
Andrew No, I'm seeing, oh yeah, 41 at the bezel. So 41 and a half at the bezel. 41 and a half at the bezel, that's right. Because the bezel overhangs the case.
Everett Same mid case on these. But you're going to have a slightly bigger feeling watch with the diver's version of these. A few interesting things. Okay, although they're quartz movements, the three handers use a VH-31 Mecaquartz, which is a smooth sweep Seiko movement, a terrific movement, probably an underutilized quartz movement, if you ask me. And the GMT versions use the Ronda 515.24D. It's a movement I didn't know about. It's actually a really simple Ronda courts movement, GMT movement. It's really straightforward. These are thin. But Rhonda, I think today, right now today, is making some of the best courts movements in the world. Mm-hmm. These are all metal, you know, supposedly serviceable courts movements. So really, really, I mean, this is the opposite of the Timex 1975. Yes. Reissue. These are really, really lovingly selected quartz movements. And as anybody who's served in the military in the last 50 years knows, a military watch is probably a quartz watch, right?
Andrew And it's probably going to suck a little bit, but it's also going to be pretty okay.
Everett And I don't think these are going to suck at all. No, not even kind of. Missed opportunity here. Test these to MIL-STD-810. Don't register NSN numbers. You don't have to actually have a contract to get an NSN number. I think it's a missed opportunity not to have... It's almost a waste of effort to get it MIL-STD certified.
Andrew Right. And then not get your NSN.
Unknown You did all the work. Get this submitted for an NSN number.
Everett Because all of a sudden, then it's got chops. Right? They said, oh, it's got chops.
Unknown But without the NSN number, does it really?
Everett Just get me an NSN number. And I'm like, this is the coolest watch in the world.
Andrew It's right up there with Marathon. They're like not particularly attractive, but I really like them.
Everett And they have NSN numbers.
Andrew No, I mean both Unimatic and Marathon.
Everett I actually think these are terrific. I love them. I'd wear them. They're each of them like between $500 and $700. Oh no, $380 to $570 with the conversion rates today. Prices are great. Watches are great. Yes, please. These are cool. If you want a tough as nails quartz watch.
Andrew One of the testing criterion for this to achieve a MIL-STD-810 drop test 26 times onto a concrete surface from 1.22 meters. That's high. That's four feet. Yeah. 26. Why 26?
Everett That's the amount of times you might need to drop it.
Andrew Well, we assume that, you know, over the course of a year, you'll fall 26 times.
Everett And I won't say these are G shock levels of shock resistance, but they have Unimatic has designed and installed these with this, what they called the 360 degree protection system. It basically looks to me like a plastic insert, but I mean, that's a shock system, right? These are really, really interesting. And that exists both above the dial and below the dial in between the mid case. So it fully shields the movement from shock from any direction. It's suspended between these resin parts. I mean, this is really a, there's lots of watches that do this. Okay.
Andrew Look, I wonder how that nylon strap is.
Everett Nah, it's probably shitty. Who cares?
Andrew I'm intrigued by these every unimatic release that comes out. I'm like, I'm intrigued by this, but I, you know, I'm obviously never pulled the trigger. The UTI though is kind of intriguing to me.
Everett Countdown bezel, uh, on the dive watches on the, on the UTI.
Andrew So that's a bummer name.
Everett Can we, can we talk about the other, the other marathon here?
Andrew Unimatic.
Everett That's what I say.
Andrew The other marathon.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew I mean the U2, Modelo, do it. The U2 MMC, a limited edition 80 that shows the full spectrum of what type of watches Unimatic is doing because we're going from a no bullshit, really no frills, kind of technology filled banger to this really elegant, delicate, kind of ghosty.
Everett There's nothing delicate about this watch.
Andrew Look, just look at the the way the dial is colored with its minute track. It's like almost wavy that those lines can just disappear. Really lovely blue inside. It's not trademarked, but certainly brand the DNA. Banger case. These are. But these two things are coming out contemporaneously is bizarre from the same place.
Everett So the Modelo Due is a watch that was made in conjunction with the Morgan Motor Company, which is a car company that's making vintage style roadster cars, right? These are novelty cars. Very cool. Feel free to Google it. I'm not going to talk about the Morgan Motor Company. uh but these have been made 80 pieces in conjunction with morgan and there's i guess maybe some like a steady anyway whatever moving on uh 38 millimeter 300 meter watch it it is relatively thick i want to say that these are these are gonna 13 and a half no 12 7 thick excluding the two and a half millimeter 2.7 millimeter ultra double domed sapphire crystal so they they I think they come out to about 15 with that or 15 four so pretty thick watch but most of that's crystal or not most of it but a significant almost three millimeters of that is crystal that sits above the case. So really 12.7 for a 300 millimeter watch, fine. You know, again, going back to Unimatic, you know, this is a dive watch that doesn't actually have any sort of practicality as a dive watch. It doesn't do the dive watch things. Which is fine. Which is fine. I love this. It's got this really great glossy blue sunburst style. The colors are great. It's got like a gold-toned seconds hand. I like it. It's got a strap that's supposedly made from Morgan upholstery, like a pebble grain strap that is the same materials Morgan uses for its upholstery. I believe them when they say that. I think this is great, man. I think it's cool. They're not super expensive. They're like under a thousand bucks for these. And there's only 80 of them. It does have an NH35 movement, which I'm like, who's using the NH35?
Andrew In a special edition.
Unknown 2024. Okay.
Everett That's a choice. That's a decision.
Unknown That's a decision.
Andrew Look, we can do these things.
Everett And the NH35 is like over five millimeters at this point. It's like, there's no reason. And Seiko, make a better entry-level automatic movement. They gotta get the size of their entry-level movement down. I don't understand it.
Andrew It only benefits them to hold it there, and it forces people to either make thick-ass watches or come up with their own shit, or move to a competitor.
Everett No, there's gotta, there's, I don't understand it at this point. I don't understand it. The 9015 is like two millimeters thinner. Come on, Seiko. I don't get it. You got any other watches you want to talk about?
Andrew Uh, I don't. I'm all out of things.
Unknown I'm all out of things.
Everett Um, okay. Well then how about we talk about your other thing?
Andrew Oh, I do have another thing. So I, um, as, as you all know, I, I carry the ginger gene, uh, which means the sun is mine enemy and it, it seeks to kill me daily. Uh, I've been spending a lot of time outside. I was like, man, I, I need to get something better than two cans of sunblock. It's just not, there's a, there's a better way. Did a little bit of looking around. I was like, Oh, I know what I'll do. I'm going to get a fishing shirt, but I'm not going to spend money cause I don't know if I'm really going to like it. Uh, I'm just, I'm just going to try it. So I got a road box brand, which is just an Amazon special brand. UPF 50 plus fishing shirt, long sleeve protection hoodie. I wore it today. It was fantastic. I will probably get more of these. The material is just fine. It's moisture wicking. It's breathable. It's thin enough that you can feel that light breeze come through. Oh, it's covered in sweat. You do not want to touch it right now.
Everett Send me a link. I don't want to touch the shirt weirdo.
Andrew The way you were doing that was like, Hand it to me.
Everett No, send me the link.
Andrew Shut the fuck up. It was 23 bucks on Amazon. Cheap. Comes in, I don't know, a dozen or more colors. I will be getting more of these. Terrific.
Everett I mean, is it going to last?
Andrew What is this brand, Roadbox? They're an Amazon brand. Um, because when you go to their website, it has a bunch of tiles that just say, uh, what does the tile say? Um, select for custom. Hang on. It was, it was amusing.
Everett So I've got a various example product tile. I've got a very similar shirt to this, or at least what appears to be similar, but mine is made from Columbia sportswear. And I think I paid like, 18 bucks for it.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett So I wonder, is this going to last as long?
Andrew Like I've had mine for like three years and it's got like a screen printing on the sleeve, but the shirt is... Well, that's what I, what I liked about this is that there was no screen printing logos, like no, what's the Columbia fishing? PFG. Yeah. PFG, like no big PFG logoing on it. That's what I wanted was something logo free or, you know, light in the logo department. And this just has a little R on the chest. And it might not last, but I'm going to do some experimentation with like some, with some expensive and less expensive fishing shirts. The hood was so nice. That was the game changer.
Everett It looks like it's got some interesting, like the, the hoodie buckle, uh, the toggle system on the hood looks nice. Yeah, it looks really nice.
Andrew It looks super high quality. What do you mean toggle? It's not high quality, but it does the thing. Uh, that is not the one that I got.
Everett Okay, never mind. Well, anyway, it looks totally decent and good enough. I'll be interested to see how it holds up, because I think if it doesn't last, you can get relatively inexpensive sunshirts from companies that make a reliable product.
Andrew But maybe it lasts. It might. There's no reason for it not to.
Everett It's polyester, right?
Andrew Polyester is a pretty simple material. Yeah. And everyone's is kind of the same. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So that's my other thing. The road box UPF 50 plus fishing shirts. Cool, man. It worked.
Everett Andrew, have you seen, have you seen this movie called code eight?
Andrew I have not.
Everett It's, this is a movie that came out in 2019. Um, You know, I don't know that I've ever heard of this movie or, I mean, I just don't know what it is. And the reason it came on my radar is because I think yesterday or two days ago, Netflix started pimping a tile for Code 8 Part 2 or Code 8 2. Code 16? And I was like, well, I should probably watch the original, the first one, because it looks interesting. This has Robbie Amell and Stephen Amell, they're brothers. They don't play brothers in the movie, but IRL, they are brothers. It's got a few actors that you would know, even if you haven't heard of them. Sung Kang, Greg Brick, Peter Outterbridge, These are people, again, you might not know those names, but if you saw them you'd be like, oh yeah, that's that guy from, I don't know. Good actors, so fun actors. I really had no expectations for this movie, which I think is nice because I think that there are things you can be critical about, but essentially the gist is folks have gained superpowers and there are problems. relating to these people with superpowers in society and sort of loosely discusses how society has dealt with this and yeah, you know, some.
Andrew I watched the short, uh, the 2016 short of this.
Everett Oh, interesting.
Andrew Yeah. Because just reading it, I was like, and this is all sounding really familiar. Yeah.
Everett I watched the short of it. Here's what I'll say. There's some obvious problems to this movie. Uh, I think at times pacing was a problem. I think at times acting was a little suspect. There were plot points that were predictable and maybe a little bit blah. But, given those criticisms, everything else, I mean, it was pretty tight. And the plot was interesting. And it really is a different take on the superhero genre. Much like, you know, Hancock came out a few years back and I was like, Oh, I love that they're doing something different. And there's been a handful of movies that have come out. This to me feels like it came out at a time, 2019 where it got lost probably in the 15 big budget superhero movies that were released that year. And then the following year. It didn't have the, it didn't have the cast nor the budget to sort of stand out. I mean, it's pretty rare that a decent movie comes out with a storyline that we're going to be interested in and neither one of us have heard of it. So there was some problems, I think, with production and marketing on this movie.
Unknown With that said, I watched it and I was like, this is terrific.
Andrew This is terrific. It has a really interesting rotten score breakdown. And I know there's not many reviewers who have reviewed it, Yeah, it's only 21 reviewers. But it's still holding an 81% and that's pretty good for a reviewer score on Rotten. But a 62% audience score with 500 ratings. So this movie was missed. Like how would it, how are reviewers not watching this?
Everett Most of the time when you see a really high reviewer score on Rotten Tomatoes and then a medium audience score, It's because the movie has some sort of woke theory or woke premise and it's like, like, no, I don't, I don't understand. But I don't think that's the case here. There were no, there wasn't any like overt wokeness here in case that's something you're afraid of. Um, so I don't know. I think it's like I said, there were a number of sort of many problems with it, but really pretty tight and enjoyable. And I'm going to watch the second one because I was like, yeah, terrific.
Andrew I'm into this.
Everett I'm into this. And I kind of want more. It does feel to me like a world that could be explored. You know, if this was a sci-fi novel, I would, that had come out, you know, X amount of years ago, I would fully expect there to be like six other books that had come out to low fanfare, but a huge cult following because it was that type of thing. You know, you're like, OK, there's a couple of problems with this book, but there's enough going on here that I want to read all six of the next ones.
Andrew One of the reviews said that it was it was like a grungy X-Men that wasn't burdened by a special effects budget.
Everett That's that feels really, really right. Yep. And there are some special effects. It's definitely didn't feel At no point did it feel low budget.
Andrew No, but when, when you have like a blank check, you can, you, you can pretty easily get out of control.
Everett It feels like they, they used the budget they had well, and they, they, they managed to stay within their, they never reached on anything. They, the way they did things was effective and not like they weren't trying too hard ever. Yeah. Tight is the word that comes to mind about it just felt really tight, uh, for a superhero movie that I'd never heard of that came out five years ago. That's not what I expected. It was really tight.
Andrew Yeah. That's a, it's an anomaly.
Everett So that's my other thing for the week. This movie that I'd never heard of from five years ago that I was like, Hey, if you are like me and Andrew didn't hear about it and watch every superhero movie that comes out and you haven't, uh, check out code eight. It's on Netflix now. And there's also a sequel that I haven't watched and can't yet recommend. Andrew, we've done it once again. We've done all the things. Is there anything that you would like to add before I turn the music on? Turn it on. Too late. Hey, you guys, I'm going to turn that down a little. Hey, you guys. I don't need to yell. Thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast for the 301st time. I don't remember what I say at this point, even though I always say the same thing. Do me a favor, go to our website, WatchClicker.com. You can also check us out on socials at WatchClicker or at 40and20 underscore WatchClicker. That's on Instagram. You got to go to Instagram if you want to follow us on social. If you want to support us, and we hope you do, that's at Patreon.com slash 40and20. Uh, yeah, go check us out at Patreon.com and donate to the show and don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.