New Blancpain, Cetina, Mido and more (297)

Published on Tue, 09 Jul 2024 18:24:58 -0700

Synopsis

The podcast hosts Andrew and Everett discuss new watch releases and other topics. They talk about watches from brands like Bohen, Louis Erard, Certina, Mido, Blancpain, Alcadus, and others. They analyze design elements like dials, cases, movements, and pricing. One host also talks about getting fitted for a new driver after using an old golf club for years. They also briefly mention a documentary about the band Nickelback.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the watch clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett Terrific. Uh, just really enjoying, really enjoying summer things. Summer. Yes. Summer. Full summer. Summer. Uh, summer songs, you know, like On my Apple playlist, summer music has been coming on. Golfing, I've been golfing a lot.
Andrew I appreciate all the invitations you've extended to me, thank you.
Everett Well, yeah. You know, I'm not a member of a club, so I'm always the invitee. I'm very rarely the invitor. I can speak to that. Yeah. because I don't have a membership anymore, so.
Andrew Oh. I mean, we don't have to be members places.
Everett There are places we can play, but I do play the country clubs a lot because I hang out with lawyers and they're members. It's fair. That's fair. Um, but yeah, the justice, all the summer things, man, all of the summer things have been just terrific. I love it. I love all the summer things.
Andrew Yeah. And you're down a kid at camp? That's amazing.
Everett That's right.
Andrew Uh, that's right.
Everett Uh, we were supposed to be down two, but one of them had a fever on the day it was supposed to go. Actually, he got it the day before and it was like, well, and then, you know, we have one of those Braun like forehead.
Andrew Yeah. I hate those.
Everett You know, I think they do a good job of whatever something Uh, but we were getting readings of like 109 degrees and it's like, this is maybe not, you know, he wasn't sick, you know, he was sick. He's clearly sick, but he wasn't like vomiting or incapacitated or even particularly uncomfortable. Um, we could tell he was warm. And so I was like, well, that's ridiculous. But then we put an oral monitor and he was like a hundred, but like 104, eight, that's hot. We read a little bit and it was like, this happens sometimes, especially if the kid runs hot, if he's not uncomfortable or vomiting or, you know, you're fine. But it was like 148 is the highest fever I've ever personally witnessed.
Andrew I, that's when I get fevers, that's, that's my zone. That's crazy, man.
Everett That's crazy. I don't think I've ever had like, well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I've ever had a fever that high.
Andrew Not even close. That's where my fevers hang. It's unpleasant.
Everett That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Lou's actually, he was pretty cool the whole time. He was like, I don't really feel too bad. I got a cough. I kind of got a headache. I'm tired.
Andrew We, we took our, one of our kids in for 104 degree fever one time. Cause they say 104 go to the ER and we get there and the doctor's like, well, why is he here? It's like, well, cause the fever is 104 and that's what they say. 104 go to the ER. And they're like, well, yeah, they say that, but you know, the reality is like, If they're not dying, if they're like, if they're, if their fever isn't causing them to be weird, if their fever makes them weird, then, you know, then bring them in. I was like, so what's the number? It's like, well, weird. Like there's no number, which is like every time you go to the emergency room, the ER docs are always like, well, you know, they say that. Yeah. But you know, the reality is like when Calvin said he swallowed a battery, last month or whatever. And we, I took him to the ER and the doctor's like, well, they say that it can dissolve and break open in their body and that you have to come to the emergency room right away. But we don't really even do anything. We just kind of like, you know, do like an hourly x-ray and make sure it's like moving through their body. And if it, if it gets lodged or something, then we're kind of worried about it. But honestly, we just like watch it progress through like, well, why can't I do that at home? Well, cause you know, there's a really small chance.
Everett Well, you don't have an x-ray machine at home.
Andrew Right. But why can't we just let them pass it at home? And he's like, Oh, well, there's a really small chance that the battery could rupture. Like maybe it hangs out in their stomach too long. Or like, I mean, it's just like, it's a precautionary thing. I'm like, God, I hate the, the inconsistency between like medical advice and then the reaction you get from ER doctors.
Everett But that's totally pragmatic, right? Like if you publish on the internet, if you swallow a battery, don't go to the doctor and someone dies, then you look like a fucking moron or you get sued or, or worse, right? But the ER doctors have to be pragmatic. They're like, well, look, there's nothing we can do.
Andrew Like we're like, do we don't have the, and yeah, he was also like, we're not going to cut your kid open. He was also showing some really good, like reassuring bedside manner as if I was concerned. Even though I was not, I was like, he showed me the x-ray and was like, look, we don't see any battery in here. This is what a battery would look like on an x-ray. So we know, I was like, dude, I know there's not a battery in there. I can also look at an x-ray and be like, there's nothing metallic inside this human person. I don't need the, like, I don't, I don't need reassurances right now. Thank you. I appreciated him, but I was not in the mood for him. As with most trips to the emergency room. Yeah. That one time for the 104 degree fever, I did not appreciate that doctor though. He was kind of an asshole. He's like, well, he's just a fever. Like, like I'm not the asshole here. Anyhow.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew We didn't go to the emergency room. 109. Those are such so inaccurate. Like you got to like average three readings.
Everett I tell you for me, it's like 97.8 every time. Exactly. And like I tested on Kim and she was like 98.2 exactly every time. And he was like on the side of his head, 109 in the center, 107. Like, so I think it maybe he's, he just runs hot, but yeah, anyway, uh, I don't actually want to talk about emergency rooms or sick ever again on this show. Like this has just been like the worst three minutes of 40 and 20 ever for me.
Andrew Perhaps it's, it's up there.
Everett We're here to talk about watches, Andrew. Oh, as per usual, that's what we're doing.
Andrew We're talking watches.
Everett That's what we do. Uh, I didn't, maybe I didn't ask you, uh, how are you, how you're doing?
Andrew How are you doing? I am good. I'm also enjoying all the summer things. I took a nap today cause I'm down a kid at camp and I had exactly. Is Mark at Tedmore? No, he is at Harlow. Oh, um, for, for elementary school kids, they do like a truncated overnight camp. So it's a three day camp and we'll pick them up tomorrow. Um, and I go to drop them off and it was like so full. So they have these like auxiliary wagon cabins that look like Conestoga wagons and they're just wide enough to have an aisle down the middle of the bunk beds and an actual canvas top. Um, yeah. I mean, whatever. I personally would be really irritated if I was going to a camp, was expecting to stay in a cabin, and then got thrown in a wagon. But he was jazzed about it. And when we got there, they've never done this before, and I've dropped them off there several times, like, all right, we're doing a lice check. Meanwhile, they're throwing all the mattresses out of these wagon cabins. And as people are like, Oh, what's going on? They're like, Oh, these mattresses don't fit the beds. So we're just putting new mattresses in that fit the beds. And they're doing lice checks for the first time. And I was like, Oh fucking hell, he better don't come home with lice. Cause somebody clearly brought it. Yeah. And then they got, and then they sent them away and there's, you know, several hundred kids at this camp that he's going to bring home enough.
Everett Yuck.
Andrew We don't need also lice, So we're down a kid, so I was at home today with absolutely no responsibilities, no kids, no pickups or drop-offs. And I was like, I'm gonna watch Back to the Future and then take a nap. And that's exactly what I did. So I'm great. Did you watch the OG? I watched all three. That was how I spent my morning and then took a two-hour nap. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, it was fantastic. So good day. I'm enjoying the summer. I'm awesome. And we're talking watches. And we're talking watches, yeah.
Everett So, shall we? I suppose we shall. As we both slowly... Hey, I want to talk about a watch that is, uh... So, what's the name of this brand? The name is... Bowen? Bohen? Bone? So, Bone is a watch brand that I've seen before. I think they've done two releases before now. I think they're four years old. Their prior two models, the Mille Maire and the Star Diver, both of these watches came across my virtual desk, aka my cell phone screen, at some point, and I think I had them in, like, candidates to be discussed, and at the end of the day, I was like, meh, meh, because They were really cool, but they just weren't for me. So one of them, I think was a 17 millimeter watch. And the other was like a 15 millimeter watch, you know, just thickness, big, thick, yeah, thick, chunky watches. Beautiful, absolutely gorgeous, beautiful watches. But like at the end of the day, I was like, I'm not feeling it. I'm not feeling this watch. So Bowen this week released their third watch and I think this is a watch that I could get into. So it is called the Grand Marine. It is a, again, this is a chunky watch. This is a chunky watch. You could not describe this as a thin watch. It is... It's 12.8.
Andrew That's not... For a 600 meter watch, that's pretty good.
Everett Yeah, that's what I mean. But what I would say about it is it's like chunky. The bracelet looks to me like at the top link, it's about 6 millimeters thick. Yeah, it's The clasp is like heavily overbuilt. All the features are chunky. It's got a big coin edge sit on top bezel. It's got these big sort of angular crown guards. I'm making it... I'm talking about the things that are chunky because it does have some chunkiness. With that said, it is an absolutely stunning watch. 600 meters water resistance, 12-8, porthole dial, sort of great detail, great depth of the dial. It's got applied markers. I'm having a little bit of trouble finding, I'm having a little bit of trouble finding the details about this watch. I do feel like at some point I had them up.
Andrew It is 41 millimeter case, 48 lug to lug, 12.8 thick, 22 millimeter lug width, tapers down to a 16, so even though it's a big, chunky bracelet, it tapers really nicely. And that clasp is gargantuan. It looks like it weighs more than the watch. Where are you seeing? I went to their website, which is not super mobile-friendly.
Everett It is not.
Andrew It is not. Here's an interesting thing that I really like is they offer the option of a crown left or right option. Which also, it's not just a crown position, the helium release valve also changes position to coincide with the crown. So they've got two cases that this watch is being manufactured in and I dig that. You don't think it's just rolled over? No, because it's the, the helium release valve moves from the two to the 10. Yeah, yeah.
Everett It's just the polar. I see. I see. Yeah. Interesting. So diving extension link on this thing, uh, automatic helium release valve. Not that anybody cares about that. Maybe they are just rolling it over as I'm looking at the crown left position. Yeah, I think they are. Um, GR five tight. Okay. So they have to do, so it's a stainless steel watch, but to get it as thin as this is, they had to manufacture a case back out of, titanium. I won't pretend to understand the engineering there, but there's some engineering there. Three and a half millimeter thick sapphire on the top and a really, really terrifically beautiful dial. They've got, I don't know if this is proprietary, but they say Hyperloop. Their own formula based on concentrated rare earths? That sounds like bullshit to me. Um, but whatever.
Andrew For the loom, it's superluminova. Densified superluminova X1.
Everett Well, they call it hyperlumen. They say it's a proprietary material, but whatever. Um, yeah. Yeah, this thing's terrific. And because it's 12.8, so it's still a big, beefy F you watch, but at 12 8 like this thing's going to be wearable. So what are the other specs?
Andrew It's so proud movement. I can't find. I'm not seeing which so prod they're using, but a 600 meter depth rating. This is a like a baller. Dive watch in it at 2250 euros, so. 2400 bucks. Yeah, this is this is specked and designed exactly. What I'd expect of a $2,500 dive watch.
Everett Agreed. Agreed. Yeah.
Andrew Oh, here we go. From a brand that like I just never, never has really been on my radar.
Everett Oh yeah. They don't say what movement it is, but it is a Soprad movement. A hundred percent of components manufactured in Switzerland.
Andrew So I like the hands on this.
Everett Yes. Actually, I don't love the hands. I was going to say I like the hands too, but I actually don't. That's probably my least favorite thing.
Andrew As I look at it more, they look like butt plugs.
Everett Yeah, they've kind of got like a butt plug. They've kind of got like a prequel, a Star Wars prequel trilogy vibe to them.
Andrew A little bit, yeah. But the rest of the design is great. Big hefty crown guards. That bracelet's
Everett really dimensional and chunky and really sort of deep engraving on the case back. In fact, have you seen the case back pictures? That looks like that would leave up the mark. Like you'd wear that, you'd wear that case back for several hours.
Andrew I like it. This is a good pick. This is an interesting release. I'm excited to see what, what else comes.
Everett I was mostly excited to be able to talk about this brand because like I said, they've, they've come up on my radar a few times and I was just like, meh. Me, me. But this one, I'm like, OK, I see what you're doing.
Andrew Yeah, I could I could get down with this. I see you, Bohin.
Everett Bohin. Bohin.
Andrew Um, ooh, I want to talk about something, a kind of fun release that is not, uh, not my my usual fare. So the new gray dial, Louis Erard and ooh. Elaine Silberstein. Elaine Silberstein. Or maybe Alan, I don't know. I think Alan. Alon. Alain. I don't know, I'm sorry. Alain. Yeah, I don't read good, I don't talk good. That's just, that's what I'm gonna get. But you look good. You know, sometimes. I do have a face for radio or podcasts as we do our thing. So this collaboration is one of several that this pairing has collaborated on. And this is just a fun release. This is a gray dial with, uh, blue markers, a red hour, a red 12 o'clock multicolored hands, the smiley face emojis in lieu of the day on the day wheel with a date. It's just, it's a fun dial. It kind of like, um, It kind of reminds me, like this whole case and dial design reminds me of early days of Vero when we went into their shop and they were like, Oh yeah, this is what we prototype today. It's just like, this is the Tuesday watch that we decided to try out. And it kind of has that fun, whimsical feel independent of the very whimsical, fun dial. This case, the, the lugs are effectively skeletonized, so they just kind of float off and then wrap around kind of like a clawfoot tub on the case. The dial is this beautiful matte gray, and it's just fun. They're making 178 of these, 4,000 Swiss francs, Sellita SW220 movement, 40 millimeter case, 11-6 thick. It's not like you're going to be able to get these, but you know, titanium case. This is just like a fun, If you've got a, you know, five grand to drop on something whimsical and fun. Kind of watch.
Everett Muted, I muted myself. Yeah, no, I like these. This isn't, you know, this isn't in and of itself a new watch release, but the. But this iteration is I do really like these. Louis Arard cases with that, I think that the actual mid case is like a, like a, just a perfectly circular column. I think this is a fun, this is a fun way to attach a strap to a watch. Uh, it's incredibly interesting and I think it's a great platform for these Silverstein colabs because like the whole thing's just weird and funky and It carries it through. But with watchmaking, so often interesting, quirky watches don't have any chops. Watchmaking, that's right. And this has it.
Andrew Yeah, it's a good collision of design and good watch design. It's not just a novelty.
Everett You know, I'm going to be that guy for $4,000. I don't love a Sellita 220. It is an elaborate grade. With a bespoke rotor.
Andrew Okay. But you're not... Okay. You're paying for the rest of it.
Everett I know.
Andrew I know, but like... It's still a novelty watch. Yeah. It's got a squiggly second hand.
Everett I mean, yes and no. I don't know. I actually don't know how much Sellita 220s are. I know that they're I know that they're different than the 200, but I think it's in the same range. It's a really industrial sort of commercial movement. Elaborate grade helps, but I don't know. It just feels like spend a little bit of extra money and give me a cool movement. Maybe. It's a $4,000 watch. No, I get that.
Andrew It's a $4,000 watch.
Everett I don't know that it's the watch.
Andrew It's the collaboration. It's the design. I'm not saying I'd spend this kind of money and they're only making $178. I don't disagree with your position.
Everett My position is just like, if you're going to sell me a watch that costs $4,000, don't give me a fucking $70 movement. That's fair. Like make it, you know what, Andrew? Make it a $4,300 watch and give me some fucking banger. Give me a banger. I know elaborate grade. Okay. But it's still a fucking Salida 200.
Andrew Yeah. I don't, I don't disagree. All right.
Everett I think, I think we'll just stop. Then get that, get that timber out of your voice.
Andrew I think this is a really fun design. It is for 178 pieces. I think this $4,000 is what this watch is going to cost.
Everett I'm with you, boo boo. I'm with you.
Andrew And smiley faces on the date.
Everett Yeah. I like that. Uh, Longines?
Andrew Ooh, yes. Let's Longine it up.
Everett So, gosh, how long ago was it? Um... It wasn't that long ago that Longine introduced their... It's a Czech word, so I should be able to pronounce it. The Magitek? I was going to say Myatek. It's Czech, so yeah, maybe Myatek. Myatek? Um... And we talked about it in the show and I said, this is really cool. It was a remake of a 1930s watch made for the Czech Air Force. Uh, I was like, this is neat. I don't know who it's for. I don't think anybody's going to fucking buy it. It's weird. Uh, and cool.
Andrew Um, it's been in the last year, I think it was it last, it might've been watches and wonders last year.
Everett Yeah, that sounds right to me. We're around that time. Um, this is, this is, a very, very similar watch. In fact, you'd be forgiven for looking at it and be like, wait, this isn't new. Except that it is. It's very new. It's new. So last year's version, black dial. This year's version, dark gray dial. Okay. Okay. Last year's version, last year's version, Fotina Lume, this year's version, no Fotina Lume.
Andrew Was last year's titanium?
Everett Last year's stainless steel, this year's titanium. So this is a freaking cool watch. I think the one that came out last year was 3850-ish. This is a little bit more than that. Yeah, these are like five. Not a crazy amount. It is limited, unfortunately. to 19, 1935 pieces.
Andrew I wonder if that's because it's a 1935 reissue.
Everett Oh, maybe, maybe. Yeah. Um, and they're $5,000 us, but here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. When you zoom in on this watch, it's like, oh, oh my, oh my God.
Andrew Yeah. This is a, this is a good 43 millimeter case. Cosk movement. 13.3 thick though and 51.4 lug to lug. There's nothing subtle or small about this watch. It like it looks like it should be smaller. It looks like it should be a 38 to 40 millimeter watch. Just the dimensions on it are perfect.
Everett I've got a 13.3 dimension here. Yeah thick. Yeah okay. So I mean that's thick but it's not crazy. I thought you said 14.3.
Andrew No, no, no. 51 lug to lug though. It's a big old watch. 100 meters of water resistance. Like this looks like it should be a fairly small watch, especially being inspired by a 30s design.
Everett Well, it's a 30s pilot watch.
Andrew And it's the size of a damn pocket watch.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Well, this was the size of it back in the 30s. It was a giant pilot watch.
Andrew I'm uncomfortable calling this gray. I accept that that's what they're calling it.
Everett They're saying it's a dark gray and I think it's a bit of a degradé too. So it, yeah, it gets closer to black on the outside. So it's charcoal.
Andrew If you wore this color suit to a funeral, no one would bat an eye at you not wearing a dark suit.
Everett Yeah, actually it, when you zoom in, it's sort of a matte texture. So the one from last year was I think like a gloss black and this has got not quite a sand finish. I think once you zoom out, it's really more of a matte or a flat or, um, but it looks a lot like charcoal. You said that. And I was like, Oh, it actually looks like it could be a brick of Kingsford. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think Lee, I think with the silver accents and the white loom, they've taken an interesting release and made it into something that's like, Ooh.
Andrew And the way that the color contrast of the way titanium. Mm. just looks, it doesn't matter what grade or how it's finished. Titanium just has that darkness, but like tooly dark that really, really perfectly matches this gray scale dial. I I'm, I'm into it. And at 5,000 bucks, I'm, I'm even down with that number.
Everett Yeah, it's a lot. It's a big number and I've, I've just talked a bunch of shit. So it's, uh, it's worthwhile to say now this has got an ETA 2892, which is a maybe a little bit better movement than the 220, but it's, it's, but it's also in-house, like it's a manufacturer caliber ETA.
Andrew So it's there, it's the, the Longine 8936, it's COSC certified. Like it's, it's got the things, it's an upgraded, And this is a tool watch, right? As tool watch as it gets. I mean, a titanium.
Everett And that's an appropriate movement for a tool watch, but still 5,000 bucks.
Andrew So. It's Longines though. And this is like a great Longines heritage re-release. I dig releases like this, like very reach back into the catalog, keep true to the design, but pump it up in the ways that make sense. Yeah. Doing a titanium in this.
Everett Doesn't this feel a little bit like a watch for a person who can like, impulse by a $5,000 novelty. That's what it feels to me like a watch for someone that's like, it's just $5,000. Yeah.
Andrew This certainly, this doesn't hit anyone's grail list. I don't think this does. I don't think this appeals to like the military watch people because I think there's though this fits in that kind of space.
Everett I think there's probably, it's not a modern military aesthetic. It's not tactical.
Andrew But, you know, neither is like a G10, right? I mean, or any CWC like that, that tonneau case.
Everett I don't know, maybe this is tactic cool with that, with that bezel, with that like big sort of coin edge, you know, what, what is that? 180 degree coin edge.
Andrew Yeah. Well that's 300. Oh yeah. On the, on the, yeah. It looks like bristles. Those are, those look like deep cuts in there. That's going to get some junk.
Everett Yeah, this is a clean that bitch with a toothbrush. It is going to get some junk. Yeah, it's beautiful. You know, it's got that floating. It's got that floating marker at 12. Does that turn with the bezel? Does that floating marker turn?
Andrew Do you see what I'm talking about? I do. I don't see how it could turn with the bezel.
Everett Well. If the crystal
Andrew if the crystal is turns with the bezel, then you're not going to get a hundred meters of water resistance out of it with like a tech. I mean, that would be a interesting technological advancement, but you're, you're probably right. Yeah. That would be cool. But I don't think it's an internal rotating, uh, 12 o'clock marker. Fine. Fine. It could be, I'm open to being an idiot here, but fine.
Everett Um, no, I think you're right. Right. All right. Well, That's all I have to say about that.
Andrew Okay. Next up for me, I want to talk about the Certina DS Super PH 1000 meter STC edition. I'm going to talk about it too. Okay. Me first. So this is the Certina DS Super uh, their pH 100. It is in collaboration with the Sea Turtle Conservancy. So it's a special color and it is maybe my favorite green ever. This is gorgeous. So this is, this is a Certina dive watch. We all know this watch. This is a collaboration where proceeds go to the Sea Turtle Conservancy. So they did a special color, you know, much went the same way that other brands will do a recycled material. they've done a color and hey, I'm here for it. The, the interesting part of this that kind of bugged me a little bit, but then kind of got me excited was there's no bracelet on it. It comes on this FKM rubber with orange stitching that the more I looked at it, I was like, you know, that's perfect for this watch. This, I don't even, really know how to describe this green. Um, how do they describe it?
Everett It's greener than like the docks of Caribbean, but it's got a really similar vibe. Yeah.
Andrew Um, it's not a color matched bezel either. It's like a slightly different color green. Cause I think color match bezels that, that monochromatic look can be off putting in a lot of instances. I like a little bit of contrast between a bezel and a dial and this has just enough. The, The dial itself is kind of jade-y, like, I don't know, it looks like ocean. They both look like ocean greens, it's just, you know, a slightly different hue to them. Big watch, though. 43.5 diameter, 14.15 thick, 1,000 meters of water resistance, an edipowermatic movement, non-limited edition, which is exciting about this because it's Yeah, kind of a special release, but non-limited edition, 1,000 euros on these. And it's, you know, 13 a dive watch. The font's good on it. Everything about this is a pretty known quantity and I dig it.
Everett Yeah, you know, I think we talked about these last year when they came out. Certainly you and I talked about them, but I think we talked about them with, they had like a limited sort of canary
Andrew Dial. Yeah. I kind of remember that.
Everett And an unlimited black dial. Neither of those came on bracelets either. I think you had either the choice of like a nylon or like a vented rubber, like a Seiko style vented rubber. Um, and I remember feeling like, so this is a remake of a 1970s Sertina dive watch. That's actually a pretty freaking cool watch. Thousand meters of water resistance. This is a remake of that 1970s watch. And so this release isn't notable except for the color, really, unless you're like a sea turtle collective person. It does have a sea turtle conservancy logo on the back, which is fun, especially given that Sertina's logo is already a turtle. So I think there's a lot of things going on, but yeah, we both had this on our list, Andrew, because that dial color is so rad, right? Like a really rad dial. Um, the watch, if, if you're curious, look at pictures because it does something. So again, automatic helium release valve on this watch. This is the first time we've ever had two automatic release valves in an episode besides our HRV episode. And it's got this like really like conical like bezel that sits on top of the watch. I mean, this is a big chunky watch.
Andrew And it's like almost shrouded because it sinks. There's like a it's not a full shroud. It's just a little bit.
Everett This feels to me very, very, very Seiko. I can't think of another Swiss brand that was making this kind of watch back in the 70s. Doxa, that's it. Yeah, but even Doxa. I mean, really, this has got more Seiko than Doxa, I think. It's got sort of a grammar of design sort of case. It's not a grammar design case, but it has that aesthetic. And with that big, like conical bezel, this feels like such a Seiko. I love the fact that this is a 70s Sertina. I love it. I think this is a super rad watch, probably a bit of an underrated watch because they are a thousand bucks. Yeah. They're a thousand bucks. It's got a Powermatic, which
Andrew It's based off a 2824. I mean, yeah, this is, this entered, and I don't know why I've, I've never really thought of it as being in the conversation of that perfect thousand dollar dive watch. And this is, this is kind of it. I think if it came on a bracelet, it would get my attention a little bit better.
Everett Well, and you like this strap, Andrew, which I think is hilarious because I think this strap looks horrendous.
Andrew It does, but the more I look at it, the more I like it.
Everett This looks to me like a $4 AliExpress strap, and I guarantee you it is. I guarantee you, you can find this strap on AliExpress for under $10.
Andrew You can find everything on Ali for under $10. That's not true. And then $14.99 for shipping.
Everett That's not true. That's not true. This is just a shitty throwaway strap. I don't like it. I wish they would do something different. Yeah.
Andrew I'd love this on a pizza race. That's what it, that's what it deserves to be on.
Everett Or, or, or whatever, or a proprietary. I mean, maybe this is molded, but with the stitching and everything, this just looks like junk.
Andrew It kind of looks like, um, what's that fire brand, uh, that does William Wood. Yeah. William. It kind of reminds me of William Wood strap. Yeah.
Everett Yeah, it's fine.
Andrew It's fine. I like the color addition of stitching into the FKM.
Everett I think the nice thing about this strap is there would be zero guilt in putting this on whatever the fuck I wanted.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. But put it on a beads of rice. I'll pay $1,300 to put it on beads of rice. I'll put it on a Tropic, I think.
Everett Tropic would be good for it, but yeah. Thousand bucks. That's a great watch.
Andrew It was on both of our lists. It was. We had a lot of overlap this week.
Everett Yeah, I mean... Speaking of, I should steal one of yours. Oh, you're gonna... you slurped me. Well, I've only got two watches left. What do you got left?
Andrew You got... I got a couple things left and some of them I'm not super excited about. So, you know, feel free to snatch. All right.
Everett I'm snatching. Mido. Oh, yeah. Mido, the ceramic watch brand. introduced its Oceanstar 39. It's not in ceramic, but it is to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the Oceanstar. I believe all prior iterations of the Oceanstar have been in like 41 and change. We now have a 39 millimeter case, which I think is a good move. I think this watch deserves to be a little smaller. And this is the best part, 10 and a half thick. So we've got, we've got a terrific 200 meter dive watch with like a bi-color bezel.
Andrew Yeah, there's a few releases.
Everett And it's not too thick. No. And it's not too thick. Um, feels very Tudor to me. There is a major problem with this watch. Is it the dial? Well, I'm fine with the dial. It's not my, it's not personally my favorite dial, but like choices, right? Choices were made. It's got this like sort of wishy washy wave thing going on.
Andrew Fine. Whatever. It looks like a, like the sand and a Zen garden table. Fine.
Everett Okay, fine. But that's not my problem. My problem is that male end link. I think that the, With this male end link, I know it curves down, but this feels like such a 2018 move to me. This is a 2018 move. I cannot understand releasing this end link in a watch of this caliber in 2024. I just cannot understand. Is there anyone that likes a male end link?
Andrew Yeah, I don't know. It's a It sort of makes sense with the flow of the dial. No. But I don't, I don't like it either. I'm not saying that they, I think they should not have done it, but I, I can, I think I see what they were trying to achieve.
Everett In fairness. It's a miss. In fairness, it curves down, it curves down just fine, right? I'm sure it's out of the way, but aesthetically, like I'm not, I'm not saying from, up like a comfort standpoint, I think for the average adult man who's likely to wear this watch, it's fine unless you have a tiny risk. However, you could get rid of all the questions with a female and link and, and, and then you don't have to wonder, then there's no question about whether or not it's going to work. And furthermore, it looks better. It does. It just looks better at articulate. It feels better and it looks better.
Andrew Yeah. It's, it is an objectively better design. Yeah.
Everett This just, this feels to me like an increasingly hard to defend decision. Um, but with that said, this is really cool. 12 or 1170 for the standard version, 1260 for the PVD with the terrible orange loom comes in a couple of different colors.
Andrew So there is a multi black and blue looks kind of like looking across the ocean at night. Uh,
Everett A that's it's a great color or the colors on the black and blue are really good too.
Andrew Yeah they transition really clean. There is a black and gray gray gradient and we're guilted it's like sand but then they guilted the bezel to compliment the sand and I and guilt guilt markers too. Yeah that one's kind of ugly. I think that's a miss. I think if they had kept the the bezel, just black and white. That would have been a hit, but it's a, it's a big miss for me, dog. And then the Fotinad. It's not even Fotinad.
Everett It's like orange loom.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Yeah. That's a miss too. It's like both the black and blue and the gray, I think are great. But the other two, I'm like, nah.
Andrew Yeah. I don't know. Mito is always a brand that I struggle with and I know a lot of people really like them and this isn't to, to bash on them, but they just like, They don't make anything that I particularly care for. Um, just every time I see one, I'm like, ah, it's, it's, it's a watch and you know what? A thousand bucks on these. Yeah. Uh, yeah. 1100 bucks.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew I don't know. It's a, it's a miss for me dog, but I see why people would like it.
Everett I think the size is really good on this. Oh, the size, the size is good. The photos of, the bracelet, there, there are photos that make it look really good. And then I've seen other photos that make me think those photos where the bracelet looks really good or renders. So I think YMMV on whether or not the bracelet's actually going to be any good. Okay.
Andrew Next up for me, Blancpain with a new 50 Fathoms iteration. And I really like this. This is three drops, 50 Fathoms in ceramic, a three-hander, a moon phase. And I remember Frank talking about the need for a diver moon phase. Um, this might be it for him. And then a chronograph release. And you know, it's the, the, the bath scaff, uh, ceramic line. These are, I mean, I love it in ceramic. These are gorgeous. And that's what I, what we all expect from Blancpain. Um, doing this 50 fathoms in ceramic black is dope. And you know, It's exciting release. It's a cool release. It's like, it got my attention cause it's something that they needed to do and they did it and they, they did it well. Um, what are these coming in at? Uh, a lot, a lot of money. 20, 26 grand.
Everett Um, that's for the calendar and chronograph and 21 for the diver for the automatic. Yeah.
Andrew Um, which I don't know. It's Blancpain. That's right. It's, it's, it's, you know, So the unobtainium, but it's, it's gorgeous. And I, I'd like one in PVD because I like the blacked out dive watch, but ceramic is super cool.
Everett You know, I know that Blancpain's released these in ceramic before, but I don't know that they've ever done a ceramic bracelet on the, I think this is the, on the bath scaf.
Andrew Is it the first time?
Everett I think this is a brand new, this is your watch. You don't remember.
Andrew I don't want to talk about it. Well, I'm excited about this release. I think it's a cool release, but I don't remember if this is the, if this is the first.
Everett You know, ceramic's really cool. Ceramic's really cool because it's super hard, way harder than steel, way harder than titanium. But I understand with that hardness comes brittleness. Are people breaking these things?
Andrew Are they shattering? I don't know. I've, I didn't do any, I've never done any reading into like the, the brittleness factor of a ceramic watch. I've never seen on Instagram like, Oh, here's my ceramic watch and a thousand pieces. Right. Me either. Um, I think it's, it's gotta be a concern, but I don't think it's any more of a concern than shattering your Sapphire crystal. Like that's cause the Sapphire is going to shatter first. Um, And I mean, I don't think most people even treat sapphire with the delicacy that it maybe deserves.
Everett You know, I just Googled shattered ceramic watch and pulled up, I don't know, there's a half dozen, there's a half, excuse me, five or six dozen pictures of different shattered ceramic watches.
Andrew Are these under stress tests or is it like, oh, I dropped it?
Everett No, these are people's watches, right? Like, oh, I shattered my ceramic watch. I shattered my ceramic Panerai, my ceramic, uh, IWC ceramic speedy.
Andrew Oh, gosh. I, that like, that risk makes me nauseous. And the, the risk of shattering a $20,000 watch. Yeah.
Everett Here's a watch you seek for owners of ceramic based case watches. What's your experience? It looks great. Never been damaged. I damaged mine. Here's how it happened. This is a survey. We've got 12 votes, 92.3 looks great. Never been damaged one vote. I damaged mine. Here's how it happened. Uh, yeah. So apparently it can happen, but I mean, so it can happen with any watch.
Andrew I mean, you, you drop your, your watch or you bang it in the wrong way and it's, you're going to shatter your crystal.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew And when you shatter your crystal, there's like some potential, uh, downstream impacts on the rest of the watch.
Everett You know, I'm looking at this, I'm looking at this complete calendar. Uh, that's a baller watch, dude. It really is. With that like sort of denim blue sunburst dial and the beautiful moon phase. And obviously Blancpain does great dial work.
Andrew Everything's perfect. Yeah, it's it's blowing puns what we expect from them.
Everett I'm like if I'm gonna spend 26,000 bucks on a watch.
Andrew I'm not This is on the list. God damn. Yeah the the Hand shape for the the calendar on the inner track of the markers That perfect curve that wraps around the highlight the the the number of the date of the month Yeah, the day of the month it is it's I mean everything's just perfect It's gorgeous. The whole, the whole release line is gorgeous. And the chronograph is just a chronograph and the 50,000.
Everett I actually don't love the, the automatic bath scaff dials. I don't like, I don't like the tiny little markers. I don't like the big open space. I know that's sort of, that's Blancpain's thing, but I don't like it. But then looking at this busy complete calendar, I'm like, Ooh,
Andrew It's because it's got the space for it too. I mean, these are, these are big and they use that space really well.
Everett And, and you know what I'm going to say? I don't. Fonts. Give me some fonts. Pon pon. Yeah, no, I'm cool with it, man. That's a great watch. Good pick. I actually saw those and I was like, next.
Andrew No, I got excited. I like, I like technology releases. Hey, we're doing something the same, but a little different. Yep. And that's the kind of stuff that I like to see brands do with experimenting and, and, uh, kind of keep them within their, within, within their lane and finding ways to do it better.
Everett Andrew, have we talked about Alcatus or Alcatus or? I think once. I'll say this.
Andrew Uh, I think, I think one time, uh, You know, I had one of these, I don't know which one, but I've had one of their watches in for review, I believe.
Everett Oh, is that right? Yeah. Glad you remember. Uh, they've got, I think they've got three prior models. They've got the Dromo, which is a beautiful, like vintage dive watch with a big stainless bezel. Um, great details on this thing. They've got a world timer GMT, which is beautiful. the Opus in. Which with a 9075 that came out last year. And then they've got the Opus, which, oh, you know what, Andrew? That attracts to me. You had an Opus? I think I had that in.
Andrew Yeah. I don't know if it was the two, but I do recall having that in. And I recall it because I couldn't figure out how to say the name of the brand. Yeah. I think I settled on Alcatus.
Everett Alcatus. Yeah. Well, so they just released through Kickstarter, a watch that funded almost immediately, and this is a watch that I was like, meh. It's really easy to just pass through. Until. And then I started reading about it, and I was like, wait a minute. Wait just one minute. So this is a 36 millimeter sport dress watch, I would say. I think this is a sport watch. pretty dressy. A dress sport, yeah. In 2024, you could wear this with a suit and be pretty dang dressy, I'd say. 36 millimeter, super polished bezel with brushed accents. It does have a bit of like dimension on the side, on the case sides. A sector dial, a sector dial like with with even numbers represented by Arabic and dashes at the odds. But, but there's a whole bunch of shit going on here. So first a Hangzhou micro router, which, yep, that's what got your attention.
Andrew I love, I love, I wish more brands were experimenting with the implementation of micro road. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. No, me too.
Andrew Especially with such an affordable movement out there. that's demonstrated to be reliable across several years of use.
Everett Hardened case. I can't remember. It doesn't matter, but I can't remember what the hardness value is. I think a lot. 44 millimeter lug-to-lug, 10 and a half thick, which is fantastic. 36 millimeters with a 20 millimeter lug width. Those are, if you don't know, the classic sort of Rolex dimensions. Yeah, I really like just about everything about this watch.
Andrew Nine o'clock, small seconds. Oh, gosh.
Everett Yeah. Yes. Nine o'clock, small seconds with a guilloche sort of engraving on the sub dial. Great font on the arabics, although I will say the arabics are pretty far out and with the crystal There's a lot of distortion on them unless you catch them. So in photos, there's a ton of distortion on those numerals.
Andrew I'm okay with that is a thing.
Everett I am okay with that, but it's a lot. Um, the pre-order price on these is 610. I think the retail is seven 50, which is a terrific price for this watch. Uh, $50, 50% deposit. If you want to buy one of these, they're shipping, in September of this year.
Andrew It's just three, three colors. So I, I like the white and steel, um, the, the white and brushed steel do dual color dial.
Everett This is my favorite part about the dial colors, Andrew. I'll come back to you in just a second. It's got three dial colors and I was looking and I was like, okay, one of them is kind of salmony. One of them's purplish, one of them's silver. And then I looked at the dial colors on the Kickstarter. It's salmon, purple and silver. Nice.
Andrew Thank you, Alcatus. I don't need storied. Don't tell me a story with your dial color. Tell me what color it is. Salmon purple silver. Yeah.
Everett That's what color it is. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
Andrew Uh, so they're, they're all dual color dials with like a mat center. So there's the white and silver with a white mat and then a silver outer ring, uh, teal accents at the markers. The salmon is, is a, a matte salmon with a silver with a metallic salmon outer ring blue hands and the purple is blue blue not blued hands to be clear. Yeah blue hands and then the purple is again a matte center portion of the dial with a metallic purple. I don't know why they went with purple that is whatever.
Everett Uh, but the white is great. It's a decision. It is a really cool purple though.
Andrew If you're into purple watches, this is a great purple. And it's because of the contrast, right? That center, like kind of grapey purple and then with the metallic on it, it's a, it's a nice contrast on the dial without being, um, flashy.
Everett And I assume it's the same color differentiated just by the texture. So you've got like a radio brushing or a circular brushing on the outside and more of like a blasted, a media blasted on the center. I assume that's the same purple. That is not the same purple. I think it might be, Andrew. I don't know this, but I think it may be the same purple.
Andrew I think you're wrong. Well, it could be. I'm okay with also being wrong. It's really hard to tell with the light. I disagree with your position though.
Everett Whatever. The white is really good though. The texture plays tricks on your eyes. A couple things that I would change. I would make this a screw-down crown. Even though it's a 50-meter watch, I'd make this a screw-down crown.
Andrew Yeah, just screw down the crowns, you know.
Everett But whatever. It's a push-pull crown. That's fine. I think a lot of people prefer push-pull crowns. They make me nervous. I would probably also do something better with the hands. So these are, I think these are enameled hands in either blue or sort of a gunmetal on the purple.
Andrew It kind of looks green on the white.
Everett I would probably, I think it's, Oh, is it green on the white?
Andrew It looks like it or no, it's just a color. It's just a difference. It's silver.
Everett Yeah. Silver. Um, yeah. Anyway, I, you know, whatever, that's, that's whatever. But I would have done something, I would have liked a nicer handset on this, but that's fine. It's a $750 watch. That's really dope with a hardened case. Uh, yeah, I'm here for it, man.
Andrew Yeah, it's a good release.
Everett I'm here for it. All right. What's all I've got to say about it? Honjo micro rotor.
Andrew Um, my last thing I, I saw this dial and was immediately drawn to it because it looks cool. Uh, the recents type five L diver with a luminous dial. So I saw the dial. It's a fully loomed dial. Got my attention. I started looking at it and I, and I don't know how to read it. It kind of has a Ming feel. It's this super specked out dive watch.
Everett Um, but this is the, this is just the type five, right? It's not different than other types.
Andrew It's a type five. It's titanium, 46 millimeter, a hundred meters of water resistance. Uh, but I, I, Beyond really liking how it looks, like as a, it's just really cool loomed dial. I don't, I don't get it. I don't even studying the dial. I'm not entirely sure how to read it, which seems sort of problematic for a dive watch. I know it's not really a dive watch, right? This is a watch that you wear that is designed to be a dive appearing watch, but this isn't a watch that you would dive with and it's $34,000. But it's, it's super attractive. It's got this domed dial with a crown beneath it. I mean, it's a type five, right? We know this. It's just, it's a fascinating designed watch.
Everett You know, it's been, it's been like a really long time since I've thought about this watch. Uh, but when it came out, I was really interested in it for a minute. Um, I, I understand that they, this is like a proprietary and perhaps even patented, um, uh, modification to like a 28 standard architecture, 28, 24, movement that uses like one of the various axles or levers in the gear train to, anyway, it's cool. Like that's, that's, that's what this is. This is haute horology. This is yes. Haute horology for the sake of haute horology. And they're, they're doing it in this really fun, I would say avant-garde for sure. But, but like whimsically avant-garde. Yeah.
Andrew And it's a two piece case. They have one oil filled for, for the water resistance, I think.
Everett Well, no, it's not just for the water resistance. It's so it's for the visibility. Oh yeah. Because you get real, you get like 270 degrees of visibility.
Andrew Yeah. You can, you can read this thing from underneath. Yeah. It's, it's a cool designed watch. The full loom is stunning. Um,
Everett 270 might be an exaggeration.
Andrew I don't know man. It's Certainly more than any other watch Yeah, it's a really cool.
Everett I think it's a really cool watch, but it this is they're Expensive 34,000 Swiss francs.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Yeah, you really gonna want this thing Or have a ton of money. Yeah 39,900 on at the Houdinki shop.
Andrew American money. Right now. Yeah. That's a steal. Add to cart. Just drop that black card on it, man.
Everett Cool. Andrew, we talked about a bunch of watches. We've been going for an hour. Do you have another thing you'd like to talk about?
Andrew I do have another thing that I'd like to talk about. What you got? Watched a documentary this week and just saw the tile and was kind of intrigued by it. It's called Hate to Love Nickelback. I mean, I, I, as a, as a nineties kid, Nickelback was a, uh, constant presence in my life as a, as a kid. Uh, so this documentary just kind of follows this, the band's beginnings and then rise to stardom and they're holding at it. And it was really, it was a, a really interesting, uh, documentary to see these, you know, the, the members of the band specifically talking about the unreal backlash that they faced for like right after they became the, one of the highest selling bands of all time to suddenly become like the heel of the industry where people just hated them for no reason. And that to. Like Creed, Creed and Nickelback. Yeah. And, and to hear their, um, their experience of that and to see like how that affected them and then their bounce back. I mean, they're, they're, I think they're touring right now. I mean, they're, they're this. I think that's right. This enormous pillar in the industry that experienced so much hate in such a weird way. I mean, they're, they're like a diamond selling band that everyone hates. It didn't make any sense. So that, that weird nuanced experience for them was really interesting to hear their, uh, like how, how it impacted them. And it was, it was, I mean, it's, it's a documentary about Nickelback, right? It's, it can only get so interesting. But to see their, to see their grind to get to where they were and then their meteoric rise and just these like Canadian fellows who were like, yeah, we were in a band. And then suddenly we got big and we just kind of like hung out there and kept doing the work and people hated us, but we're like still doing the work and like selling out shows. So we're like, Oh, if I got, we'll just keep going. Um, it was a, it was a fun watch and it was, it was cool to see, behind the scenes of something that was, um, and I'm not super jacked that like things from my childhood are now like documentary worthy.
Everett Um, you know, that's a good show idea. Andrew, uh, Nickelback watches, like watches that people hate for no good reason.
Andrew Oh, there's something there. Yeah. I think all the watches that we hate have a, have a pretty significant reason. Uh, timex and Casio, I think are the, the number one haters. Ming also gets a lot of hate, but then sells right the fuck out.
Everett Uh, yeah. Is Ming, is, is Ming the Nickelback of watches?
Andrew I don't think Ming is ubiquitous enough to be Nickelback.
Everett Maybe. We'll come back to it. Okay. Andrew, I've got another thing. Oh, do me. I've got, not only do I have another thing, I have the other thing.
Andrew My other thing is available on Netflix. If you were alive in the 90s and have any memory of Nickelback, it was at least an hour and a half without me looking at my watch.
Everett Andrew, I've just taken the head cover off of my new driver. I decided this year, so I have spent a lot of money on golf equipment. I have two $400 watch, $400 drivers.
Andrew You have many $400 watches.
Everett Excuse me. No, excuse me. I have two $400 putters, two different $400 putters.
Andrew I have... Is it because you didn't return the other one? Weren't you going to?
Everett No, I wasn't ever. I have, I think... I kind of have a vague memory of that story. You bought them like... It's a story. Yeah. I have like $700 worth of wedges. I have like $1,000 irons. Uh, the only thing I've never really spent money on is my driver. I have up to very recently been using a Cleveland high bore driver, probably made 2003, 2002, uh, maybe a little bit more recently than that, but not much. I think I picked it up for $40 at played against sports. I have used it. Uh, it served me well. I, when I hit it well, it goes really far and does good things. But to this year, I was like, you know what? I'm going to get a new driver. I am. This is the year I'm going to get a new driver. And I looked at all the drivers on the market. I tested, I think, 10 different drivers. And I went and got fitted for a Ping G430 Max 10K. the 10 K refers to how far you're going to hit it. MOI, which is I think moment of inertia. And it's all about how forgiving it is. So if you miss hit your driver, which I do often, how forgiving it's going to be, how much it's going to bounce back. I, again, I tested, I tested 10 different drivers, I think, or thereabouts. And the, the place that I got fitted at, it has, you know, a full on, simulator with all of the, you know, all of the bells and whistles to measure your, uh, you know, where you're hitting on the screen or on the face where, you know, have you hit a ball with this yet? I have, I have hit a lot of balls with it and I hit them very far and very straight.
Andrew Did they tune this to you too?
Everett Cause there's a lot of, so it is, it's on here. It is adjustable. So it, It's not as adjustable as some drivers on the market. Some of them have movable weights. Um, this really just has an adjustment for you. You can put a different weight in it, but it also, it just has like a phase angle. I've got this set up more or less stock. I tested it. I tested some different shafts and they've got like pings, got like six different stock shafts that you can get. Um, this was the one that worked the best for me. Um, man, I will tell you, I probably don't hit this. Well, that's not true. I'm, I did probably instantly gain about 20 yards on my drives, maybe 15.
Andrew Um, I that's, I think just improved technology.
Everett It's, it's improved technology. What I did gain is I gained a club. I, you know, I would say of my drives, I probably hit 30% of them really well. Uh, I would say I probably hit 40% of them medium. And then, you know, what does that leave? It's another 30% of miss hits. I, with my old driver, the 30% went really straight. The mediums were like, and then of course that, that last 30% it's like, well, I guess I'll take a drop. Um, what I found with this is that that 40% are all salvageable. I am hitting the fairway 70 or, or really close to the fairway about 70% of the time. Um, and, and the bad ones, unless it's really bad or not as bad, like the, it's just incredible.
Andrew So that's proper fitting club. I, when, when, if you want to improve your golf game, by 40%, just go get fitted for and buy clubs that actually fit you because nobody, well, very few people actually golf with clubs that fit them. So their swing is all fucking weird because they're trying to compensate for an ill-fitting club. Just getting things that fit improves your game so much.
Everett I think that's true. I think that's true. But I guess here's maybe the other part of it is Even if it was a more marginal improvement than it actually was, I think I would still do it because it was fun. I love it and I want to hit it and I'm enjoying it. The driver was never something I was pumped about taking out of the bag. And now I'm like, I want to hit my driver.
Andrew Well, now you just, you want to pull out that ping because you want to hear it. That's got to sound so good.
Everett You know, it's interesting that you say that ping, um, have always had really weird sounding clubs. This sounds like any sort of Taylor made or whatever. It doesn't have any sort of characteristic ping sound, but cause yeah, they sound funny. I just love it. I just love it. I spent way too much money on it. That's fine. Don't judge me. Uh, but I love it. I'm like, Oh yeah, I want to pull out my freaking driver. Now some people go, some people like get a new driver every year. Don't do that.
Andrew No, because by the time the season's over, you're finally settled into your ill-fitting golf club.
Everett I have been using the same driver for, I don't know, five years. And it was a driver that I bought for 50 bucks. And I'm not saying you need to do that either, but I guess I'm trying to say, I don't, I'm not a go out and buy a new driver.
Andrew I think I've had mine for about 10 years.
Everett but I'm super glad that I bought this. I have really, really, really enjoyed playing golf because I'm like, Ooh, I have this new shiny driver that I want. Not to say the new stuff, but we're, this is a watch this podcast. We all like cool shit.
Andrew New stuff feels good. And I love it. And I wanted to talk about it. My driver's probably 10 years old and also from playing in sports.
Everett Yeah. Uh, yeah. I finally bought a new driver.
Andrew It looks good. It looks like you haven't hit a single ball with it.
Everett It's no marks. I cleaned it right before I came over.
Andrew Uh, it is big, but that's the, that's how big drivers are these days.
Everett Actually, if you look carefully, you can see where my best hit is.
Andrew Oh yeah. It's just a little bit on the, a little bit on the toe. Yeah.
Everett I'm a little, I get a little toey. That's okay. Yeah.
Andrew That's my miss it. It's so light. Your, your swing speed had to go up so much going from a shitty old driver to, to this.
Everett You know, with my Cleveland, I think I was at, I don't know, 97 and I think with this I'm at like 98.5. Really? Yeah, it's an increase. Yeah. But it's not, it's not crazy.
Andrew Hmm. So figure shaving eight ounces off would give you a little bit more, but Andrew, that's all I got.
Everett Hmm.
Andrew Well, that's all I got. We've done it again. A perfect episode.
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Andrew Bye-bye.