We Need to Talk About Longines (295)

Published on Wed, 19 Jun 2024 22:38:52 -0700

Synopsis

This is a casual conversation between two watch enthusiasts, Andrew and Everett, discussing recent watch releases and other topics of interest. They provide commentary on new watch models from brands like Chercus, Christopher Ward, Longines, Oris, Seiko, and Nizumi. They also discuss random topics like dealing with water leaks, kids being out of school, pole vaulting, wakeboarding, and a recommendation for a high-quality leather belt brand.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the watch clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? So good.
Everett Better now. So good. Yeah. Cracking a better now. Cracking a drink. Uh, no, I'm doing well, man. It's, uh, uh, been a week.
Andrew It's been a week and I've got more week to go, but yeah, it is only Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. Kids are out of school. That's kind of fun. This is a miserable week for kids being out of school. Oh, there's no care available. Oh, like there's no camps. Boys and girls club isn't open. There's nothing. So it's like patchworking together. Where can we send our kids? The only, redeeming quality of this week is that daycare is open, but not today because Juneteenth and guess who got all the way to daycare, like perfectly timed. I can't do daycare drop off and then make it to work on time. Gets all the way to daycare to the front door. I'm like, man, this bitch looks closed. Me, I did that this morning. I got all the way to daycare, kid in tow to realize I have to go back home. Sick. And dumped it, like throw him out of the moving car. and then race to work to still be late. Brutal.
Everett It wasn't great. Brutal. Uh, I will say my kids are, this is the first summer where we have a fair degree of comfort sort of leaving them be at home. And I say a fair degree of comfort. These things are relative, but, um, man, like the options have really opened up here. Like there's just, it's like, here we go. Here we go. Our kids are old enough to, to, Not burn it down. Not burn it down. Probably also not really old enough to get into big trouble yet.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah. You're, you're in a sweet spot. Next summer will be different, but you're in a sweet spot now.
Everett Uh, but no, Andrew doing really well. Uh, enjoying the weather, enjoying, uh, enjoying summer. Summer's great. You know, I start like really swinging. The golf clubs again has been nice. Uh, you know, There's a lot of distractions at work though, I will say that. That'll happen. Like I look outside my window and I think, ah, it sure looks nice out there.
Andrew You just close your blinds and turn on your frame of like snow falling or rain, just like rainy day. Yeah, that's a good idea. I should do that. Yeah. Andrew, how are you? I'm good. My allergies are kicking my ass. This is like the most severe allergy season I recall. here and I've lived here for many years now. It has been killing me. It's killing both my kids who are like just snot monsters and I'm like always a little bit froggy, a little itchy. It has been bumming me out, but it has been beautiful. We haven't had any real hot. No. Yet. We've had like a couple in the 80. Well, I guess we had like a nigh on 90 degree day. You just won. But you know, we're, we're hanging out in those 70 degrees. It's beautiful outside. I am enjoying this late spring, early summer feel. Yeah, except that I found two, my water company has notified me a couple times now, like, hey, you have a leak and it's costing you probably 60 bucks a month. I'll poop. I'm like, yeah, okay. It's not inside. That means it's outside. And because the ground has dried up a good amount in the last couple of weeks, I have isolated three. Say it again, three sprinkler heads that are actively leaking.
Everett Oh boy.
Andrew Well, that's an easy fix. It's an easy fix. I just have to dig them up. I have to make, I don't know if it's the head or if it's any of the, of the line that runs to the head, but because the ground is thoroughly dried now, I'm like, Oh, damn spot, damn spot, damn spot.
Everett Yeah. You have three green spots and you know, those are the leaks.
Andrew It's, it's just wet dirt. They're not green spots. Cause all of my sprinklers in my backyard are like outside of the perimeter of the grass. Yeah. Um, Yeah, I found three wet spots, so I have to dig them up this weekend.
Everett And, you know, this has been a dozen, more than a dozen years at this point, but we had, it was like probably July, maybe late July. And back in the day, I didn't really water or anything. I wasn't taking care of my lawn. And, uh, I noticed, uh, I noticed just one afternoon I come home and I'm like, why are the weeds in that flower bed just killing Like they are just green and beautiful. There's these horsetails popping up. It's just gorgeous. This flower bed that was like full of grass and weeds. And it's just like lawn is all brown and this one. And I was like, that's crazy. That's crazy. And then we got the letter the next day. It's like, you've got a serious leak and it's costing you 270 bucks a month. And if you get it fixed, we'll reimburse it. Uh, so. Yeah. Ours, they. That was the time I replaced my water main in front of the house.
Andrew They offered to reimburse us until they sent their final notice. And they're like, because you've done nothing to fix it up until this point, we're not going to be reimbursing you. Yeah. You should probably fix it. Yeah. It's been like four months, maybe five at this point. Yeah. But it's like, everything's been so wet. There's no apparent leak inside. I'm not going to pay somebody to do GPR or scope my irrigation outside.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew I'm just gonna. weight. And I guess at most 60 bucks a month. Yeah, that's not bad. And it's a super small leak. She's like, look, it's like one or two drips a minute small. But that adds up.
Everett So does GPR. Well, Andrew, we're not here to talk about GPR or water leaks or... We could, though. Horsetail, which is a beautiful weed. Rather, prehistoric plant, horsetail, by the way. Rather, we're here to talk about watches. And watch as we shall talk about, Andrew, we do this thing. I'll just tell everybody the way we do these episodes when we talk about current events is we independently of one another come up with, you know, between five and eight things that we want to talk about. Typically we will send each other our links independently. I'm pretty diligent about not looking at your links and I think you've communicated a similar diligence to me. Yeah. So truly independent. Because I usually send them first. Truly independent of one another, we pick out things and we often have two, sometimes three pieces of overlap. I think today we had, what, five pieces? All, all overlap. I don't know if that means it's a slow week or Andrew and I's tastes are melding over time.
Andrew I think it was a combination of the two things. The things that were I'm sure there's more interesting stuff that happened in the last week that just didn't catch our eye. Like there's a lot of stuff that I saw that I was like, Oh, that's interesting. I don't really care though. Um, these are the, these are where the noteworthy things worth talking about.
Everett Yeah, that's right.
Andrew Or like the shit that like that we actually care about. Cause I don't really care about the new Porsche design. I don't super care about, Uh, actually one you sent me that I, I, did you send it? Hang on. You did send it. I didn't really care about the Mondo. Like there was just some stuff that I was like, eh, I don't really, I don't really care.
Everett Um, yeah, well, you know, I think we've got a certain vibe for our show too, in terms of price ranges and that's, that's opened up over time, but like, we're not really talking about all that much, like, Oh, the new iterative Jaeger LeCoultre blah blah blah came out like meh. And that's all happening. Well, we'll let somebody else talk about that. Somebody who's more qualified or more interested.
Andrew Yeah, that one just doesn't it. It doesn't interest me because it's just not ever going to be in my. Wheelhouse, not even wheelhouse, it's just like never going to do it for me, it's lovely, and if you gave it to me, I would be happy and I'd probably wear it sometimes, but. It just doesn't, doesn't scratch the itch. What does scratch the itch? A new micro brand, Chercus. Chercus, maybe?
Everett That sounds, that sounds reasonable.
Andrew Launches an original watch, the Module One. And when I saw this, I was immediately smitten by it. So this is a square watch inspired by sort of the postmodern like 80s feel of what the future is going to look like and also simultaneously inspired by the American Soviet space race of the 60s. And it does exactly that. It captures all of those vibes without being silly. This this looks like a direct like Apple Watch competitor in its shape and its dimensions. So this is square watch round dial 12 o'clock crown hidden by your lugs like so a bullhead but without being a play on a stopwatch or a pocket watch 38 millimeter case. What's it 48 long 46 lug to lug. 13 millimeters tall. This thing is terrific. And it's got this, these mismatched hands, super simple dial, a, a big box. Circus logo that runs between four and eight. That almost looks like it could have been a date window, but instead is just the logo there.
Everett Is that a satellite? Uh, yeah. Yeah.
Andrew It's as, as the nod to the space inspiration. And this thing is great. They're going to make 300 of them. They are coming in at 2,500 euros. Uh, the movement in this is the, it's a Salida 300, right?
Everett Uh, 300-1.
Andrew Yeah. So 300-1. This is so good. There, there is a date option. This is terrific. It's got a cool Velcro, uh, with titanium. buckle system that I don't really understand because there's not good pictures of it that I could find that make it make sense as to why it's it is the way that it is but it's a great seat belt nylon really clean finishing on the case great dome crystal good curvature to the top of the case this thing is good fixed lugs on it I am about this release.
Everett Yeah, I'm with you. It's a beautiful watch. It's definitely avant-garde, but like you said, without being silly, it's an interesting case because it's incredibly angular without having all that many angles. Everything is somewhat rounded and chamfered and truncated. with curves, um, really a pretty cool watch. You know, these things are all just cool, right? Uh, this would be an eye catcher and a conversation starter. Uh, Swiss made grade five titanium. I don't know if you said that.
Andrew Yeah, I forgot about the titanium. It's got an interesting relief cut around the mid case that creates an, uh, like a shadow effect on it that almost makes the watch look taller. Yeah. without I mean, it's 13 millimeters, right? This isn't this isn't a thin watch by any means, but it looks even taller with that shadow. They're calling it a floating bezel cut through the middle of it. And I think that's a fair way to call it.
Everett Yeah, pretty cool. You know, the there are pictures of a no logo. version of this. And on their website, there's a no logo available. I think that the logo is the one part of this watch that for me detracts a little bit. However, it also occurs to me that, you know, I'm trying to think of another example, but sometimes you go back and there's like sort of an ugly or an obscure feature of something that you're like, I want that one. I want that one. I want the ugly one. You do that a lot. And I wonder if this is one of those instances, right? Where if you didn't get the logo down the road, you'd be like, you know what? I should've got the ugly one. Yeah.
Andrew I think if you, if you get the logo, you're, you're just, you're sort of getting any other minimalist design with some like eighties postmodern inspiration, but the logo adds that kind of like, it really seals that postmodern right before quartz crisis. this is what the future is going to look like kind of watch.
Everett Yeah, it's pretty cool. And there's a lot of interesting little details, the markings on the rotor, um, the markings on the case back that maybe don't make a ton of sense to me, but, but that's maybe not the point, right? It looks modern. Like there was like indexing on the rotor that doesn't occur to me to be functional or even rational. Um, It's just like indexing. I like it, man. I think this is a cool, weird, but not so weird that it's like, man, I don't get it. It just looks cool. It's a cool fucking watch. I don't think, you know, it's a Selita 301, which has a secondhand functionality, but there are no secondhands here. This is just hour and minute, which is, it's a decision. I think I kind of like it. Everything's weird and nothing's too weird.
Andrew Yeah, and that's that's totally my style the integration of the 12 o'clock crown into the lugs is I think perhaps the coolest part using the Lugs as a crown guard It's super cool.
Everett Yeah Yeah, I'm with you. It's a neat watch Yeah, well It's cool. It's cool that you picked it
Andrew It's cool that you also picked it, but I, you slurped it because I was, I think more excited than you.
Everett Okay. Uh, let's see. Well, since you stole one, I'm going to have to try to steal one.
Andrew We're all, there's only overlap here. Hey, Hey.
Everett Um, I'm going to talk about Yema. Ooh, you would. So Yema, released, I think, a pretty cool watch this week. But I think this is maybe a sleeper release. So what they're calling this is the Skindimer Slim CMM.20. This is a limited edition, but I don't believe for a moment that this is a limited platform. I think that this is going to be a release, an unlimited platform, which is, You know, at first blush, it's like, oh, yeah, this is a Yema skin diver, which, you know, Yema's had their skin diver in the mix for a while. And this is. Yeah, like three years. A really classic looking, you know, I've taken umbrage before and I'll take umbrage again in calling a 300 meter watch a skin diver. I also M of the opinion that a true skin diver is an H case. This is a serious dive watch with a lot of water resistance and no H case. With that said, it's fairly a skin diver, especially now that they've made this guy 39 millimeters.
Andrew Yeah, they ditched their 41.
Everett And just 10 millimeters thick. with the crystal? Uh, I think that that's excluding the crystal.
Andrew It says at 10 millimeters, including the two millimeter crystal. Well, that's terrific.
Everett And it's a big old crystal. So this thing is terrifically thin. Uh, it's got Yema's very, very cool micro rotor movement that they produced with In-house. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Yep. First introduced in 2022. Like all of the bridges and main plate are made by Yema and then sort of built up with Swiss components. Just a really terrific movement. 70-hour power reserve, plus or minus three to seven seconds a day. It's a really cool movement. Uh, and they're able to get this thing into a very slim watch. I really like this. So this is limited to 500 pieces 2200 2249 euro 47 millimeter lug to lug again 10 millimeters thick.
Andrew This is excluding the crystal andrew No You know, I of course it sits at just 10 millimeters thick including the double domed sapphire crystal which is two millimeters tall by itself. What website are you looking at?
Everett Time and time. So monochrome says 10 millimeters excluding the crystal. So maybe there's a bit of a controversy here. Uh, there's real controversy. Yeah. Now this limited edition is sort of like a faded blue ghost gray admiral admiralty gray is what I'd call this I think. Uh, and, and a bit of a creamy loom, uh, Maybe bordering on not quite Fotina.
Andrew Here's why I'm good with the Fotina. Because of the way they didn't distress, but the way they designed the font of the cardinal of the 12, 3, 6, and 9. It makes it look like actual patina rather than just brown loom.
Everett You know, I actually, I'm okay with it because I don't think it's true patina. I think it's just sort of a brownie greenie loom. I don't think it's offensive. Um, but yeah, you know, your mileage may vary with these things. Uh, scale style bracelet. Then I've had, I've worn one of these bracelets are really comfortable. Um, yeah, you know, again, only 500 pieces on this, but I have to imagine
Andrew This is this is the sign of things to come. This color is probably the limited edition. They'll probably go to traditional colorways for this platform because it's a banger. I think that's right. This is exact. This is what this watch should have been when they released it. What? Twenty one.
Everett Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's pretty terrific. And I would say the one thing about this watch that gives me just a touch of pause is that MSRP I don't think it's too much, but I think it's bordering on, hmm.
Andrew It's, it's a little bit of a hard pill to swallow if you don't take into consideration that it's an in-house micro-rotor movement.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think the question becomes, can, can Yema, can Yema pull it off? And as a brand, and I'm not sure, you know, the other thing I will say about this is the clasps on these things fucking blow. Um, take it or leave it, but the clasps on these things are not good. This is like a, it's like a 2017 micro brand du jour catalog clasp. I always have trouble. For 2200 bucks that's, or 2300 bucks, that's too much for me.
Andrew I always have trouble putting Yema in this price category. And I've only handled, I don't know, maybe two Yema watches. But something about them makes it hard for me to associate them with this space.
Everett Yeah, I'll tell you what I think it is. I think that it's Yema's lack of attention to detail. So they spend all this time on this terrific movement and they have a stamped, maybe it's not stamped, but a generic catalog milled clasp. An end link that frankly, I don't think looks the part. I mean, the bezel is great. The bezel action is great. The dial is good. The hands are maybe mediocre. And then, but then you've got all these parts that look really sort of out of place with the rest of it plopped in, right? If you're selling me a $2,250 watch, spend the time it takes to make me an actual, beautiful, high-quality watch.
Andrew Yeah, don't fill in the gaps with... No gap filling should happen at over $2,000.
Everett No gap filling should be happening.
Andrew Maybe that's it. Because I always have trouble with Yema specifically.
Everett Well, I think Yema always kind of does that. I think that's their shtick, right? And it's like, you're not Zen. You can't fill in, you can't gap fill. You're Yema. Yeah. Give me some fucking cool shit.
Andrew And they clearly can. They can. Yeah, you're right. They just, they just aren't. At least maybe in the way that we expect them to. I think it's the French, man. Good enough. I think all those French surplus rifles, never fired, dropped once kind of thing. Yeah. What's next, Andrew? Oh, next up for me. Mm. A special limited release of the Christopher Ward Bel Canto with kind of a fun story associated with it. Christopher Ward and famous watch fella Andrew Morgan have teamed up to do a red release of the Bel Canto. The story behind it is. Mr. Morgan did not jump on the
Everett Belcanto train soon enough is Andrew Morgan is the original voice of Watchfinder, right? Yeah. Okay.
Andrew Yeah. Didn't get on the Belcanto train soon enough. They were gone. Used his insider connect to be like, Hey, I'm going to have one. I'm like, sorry, we don't have one. You want to make one? Yup. So he chose red. So we have a limited release. Oh, how many are they making? Uh, I forgot to remember that one. Uh, they're making several.
Everett Um, I don't think they're making these in any tremendous volume.
Andrew Oh, um, they are doing a pre-order on them. So all orders made within the June 27 to July 4 window will be honored in the order they received with deliveries beginning in December of 2024. These are approximately 4,000 US dollars, which is consistent with the Belcanto, grade five titanium, intense red dial. These are gorgeous. I mean, we all know the Belcanto. The Belcanto was like a, was a showstopper that was being like flashed at us from the inside of a man wearing a trench coat at, at Windup a couple of years ago. It set the world on fire. It demonstrated like this prowess that I think everyone knew Christopher Ward had, but hadn't flexed yet. And then they went ahead and flexed and burst the seam on their t-shirt sleeve with this high horology thing being done at the best price point you can ever find it at. Yeah.
Everett Well, so I'm going to say a couple of things. Well, one, This dial is absolutely stunning. The red is really spectacular.
Andrew It's spilt pinot noir on your white carpet red. It's fucking gorgeous.
Everett The other thing I'll say about it, uh, and, and I'll be quick cause I don't know if it means anything, but I feel like this dial showcases the mechanics more than any other color, you know, so there's the.
Andrew The contrast between the, between the Yeah.
Everett Yeah. It's super contrasting more so than the purple, more so than the, the tan or gold or whatever it is more so than either of the blues, uh, or that gray that there's something about this red that makes that, that makes that silver just, I think it's the reflection off of the red.
Andrew Cause it's the, it's the first color that's like really going to reflect light. So you're getting light hitting the top and bottom of those details.
Everett It almost looks like the metal is brighter, the steel and gold and rhodium is brighter than it is on those other colors. And I don't, I don't, I can't imagine that that's actually true. Some of this could be pictures and lighting and editing. I don't know. And so take all of that with a grain of salt, because frankly, there's any number of reasons that these pictures might project that and have it not actually be the case. In the pictures, at the very least, it's like, woof, this is terrific.
Andrew Yeah. And I'm not usually a red dial fella. Me either. Yeah. But in this, in this regard, uh, yep.
Everett You know, I still to this day regret not buying one of those Amazon exclusive red dialed SNKs.
Andrew Uh, I was cleaning some stuff in my office last week and, uh, found a bunch of red branded, you know, like the Perron red. Uh, battery bricks like, like external batteries. It's like, like they don't even fucking work anymore. Why are these still here? But you can't get rid of them because they got an asset tag. Irritating. Uh, yeah, this is gorgeous. This is a cool collaboration. Um, I like it. I like the Belcanto. I like any iteration they do, but I think this is for sure the most, uh, striking.
Everett Yeah, agreed hold agree hold heartedly and and like you said it's kind of a fun story It's also a stupid story, but a fun story.
Andrew No, but if I were to call up Mike France, but I came in you won't get Like I really like a bel canto isn't he's not gonna say well, let's make one. Let's make a 40 at 20 bel canto Yeah, orange and orange and blue No, no, it's not gonna happen. Please fuck off. Yeah I think he might even say it so politely that you'd think it was a compliment until like two days later.
Everett We're like, man, that was mean. Uh, Andrew Longine. Can we talk about Longine?
Andrew I think we have to, cause this is a cool, I think, I think it's a couple of years late, but I think it's a cool release.
Everett Oh, well, I think it's hard to, I think it's hard to fault Longine right now in June of 2024. You can't say Longines draggin' their feet.
Andrew You cannot. They are a little late to the pastel party, though.
Everett Oh, I disagree that this is pastel. Anyway.
Andrew Fuck off, these are, this is Easter color. These are the Easter colors.
Everett I'm not sure you actually know what pastels or Easter colors are. This is a navy blue, a forest green, black, and gold. Easter? What, Easter?
Andrew Oh, are we looking at different links?
Everett Yeah, I'm looking at the new so you're looking at the conquest. You're looking at the novelty conquest release. Yeah, I'm looking at the new 38 millimeter launching conquest, which was announced this week, and was released in white, blue, green, black.
Andrew Now I understand your insult. Okay. And do you understand my position? I do. Having seen the link that I
Everett shared. I do. Okay, so the conquest is a 41 millimeter watch. It was which is like, you know, a bit stodgy.
Andrew It has a place but not in this case design.
Everett So they have re released this. This is a pretty straightforward time only sterile bezel sport watch, right? So sort of like a OP or an Aqua Terra or whatever. Right. But Just a little too big so they fixed it 38 millimeters. Thanks lunging perfect 10 9 thick 100 meters of water resistance Stunning stunning Stepped dial Great markers that are pushed all the way out to the outside Of this dial creating a lot of negative space in the middle. This is just a really classic great watch from Longines with Longines quality. Unlike Yema, Longines nails it on the details. They nail it on the details. So you maybe don't like everything about this watch, but you can be assured that the details are going to be completely void of afterthoughts. Is this a watch I'm going to run out and buy? I don't know. It's 2,300 euro.
Andrew So eight bucks.
Everett Uh, yeah. Well, you know, it's not cheap. I think it's my point.
Andrew It's still 2,300 bucks, but this is a direct competitor with the Aqua Terra.
Everett Sure. Sure. Or the, the tutors, um, the, the Black Bay,
Andrew 39. Yeah. Whatever that is, what they're like in 36, 39, the Carrera, the Carrera, this, I mean, shit, this could even be like the, the OP placeholder for somebody who's tired of fucking waiting, you know, like, I think that's right.
Everett Yeah. And in fact, I was going to say this conquest case does give off some maxi case vibes a little bit.
Andrew It's because of the depth. It's almost like they're trying to, and, and they're, doing an interesting thing with the with the depth of the dial into the case, very much like a light catcher where you've you've got tons of depth with the way with where they've placed the movement and the dial inside the case that makes it super bright. I mean, it looks like probably two full millimeters of space between the top of the dial and the top of the case.
Everett Yeah, I don't think that's probably it's all that far off.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett You know, I was thinking, and my reference to Maxi Case, I think this case feels a little bit like an Explorer, like a six-digit Explorer with those kind of thick lugs, those thick, beefy lugs. Terrific H-link bracelet, micro-adjustment. Yeah.
Andrew And this is a no-bullshit, like, all-the-time sport watch.
Everett Oh yeah, no, I think so, yeah.
Andrew It can dress up or down. It's gonna go with you anywhere. These have, what, 300 meters or 100 meters? 100 meters of water resistance. 100 meters of water resistance, yeah. That's all the fuck you need.
Everett You know, I wear this watch on a bracelet. I will say, I was going to say they just got everything right, which is almost true. 19 millimeter lugs.
Unknown Of course.
Everett 19 millimeter lugs. And I'm sure there's a reason for it. I won't speculate. It's fine. It's fine. It's 2024 19 millimeter lugs are going to work. Uh, but just do the right thing though. Do the right thing. Yeah, I agree. That's, that's my position on that. But you know, maybe there's a proportional, I just can't, I actually can't imagine there's a good reason for it.
Andrew Those are, I mean, those are as, I think if you thin those lugs out even a half a millimeter on each side, you lose that kind of chunk to it.
Everett Well, but, I mean, for instance, we talk about a, I talked about an Explorer, right? So, you know, you get a, an Explorer with the 20 millimeter lugs and they do essentially the same thing. So, I don't know. It's subjective. I do think that with this watch, with this watch in particular, you're like, we're doing everything. We're doing everything. It's all exactly what you want. Except. Except with 19 millimeter looks. Like, come on Longine. And I actually think, I mean, look, they could go out a half a millimeter on each side.
Andrew Yeah, I mean, they could. I really think.
Everett In fact, now that I look at it, the shoulders, everything, the bracelet does look kind of scrunched in there, right? Let it breathe, man.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Let it breathe, Mr. Longine.
Andrew Uh, I don't like the limited edition green, pink and blue. Oh yeah. Whatever. That's, that's two summers ago. We're past Easter.
Everett More is more. Um, but yeah, it's, it's a great watch. Uh, genuinely no complaints. 10.9 thick. I think at a hundred meters of water resistance, if you can get that down just a little bit, um, that's going to wear so nice though.
Andrew Yeah. Even at 10, nine, 72 hour power reserve.
Everett It's a great watch. I agree. It's a great watch. And, and, and the price is competitive and it's not a Yema, so everything's going to be just perfect.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. I think I, do we not give lunging enough love or do is launching just not get enough love?
Everett Oh, I think Longines doesn't get enough love. Although I think the tides are turning on that. I think increasingly people are aware that Longines dropping bangers. You know, when we started this, there just didn't feel like there was a lot. And then I think once the spirit collection really, like people were like, oh, oh, and you know, Longines obviously super old watch brand, right? Been around for a minute. It's a big boat to turn. But there was a time, there was a time, circa 2018, when I probably would have categorized Longines and Tissot as roughly equivalent in terms of brand prestige. I don't think that would have been fair even then. I think that that's more of a reflection of my lack of knowledge, but it was my perception. as someone who dabbled in, you know, sub $1,000 watches, as I looked up, it was like, eh, Longines, Tissot. And now as someone who's been doing this for a minute, I think I was really mistaken then, or I would think I was mistaken then, but now it's not even a mistake you could make.
Andrew No, it's not. And Longines has done a lot of things to course correct. I think some of it is when we started to think about watches, Longines was not keeping up with the industry. They were doing business the way that they had been doing business, and they've done a lot of, they've made a lot of changes in the last several years.
Everett And look, this comes at a time when Tissot was hitting, too, right?
Andrew Tissot's hitting in a different place, though. That's right. That's right. Tissot is really capitalizing on the value market, and Longines is really pushing in that entry-level luxury space, and they're both nailing it, and they both made really deliberate decisions to attack certain segments of the market, and they are not pulling punches in those segments.
Everett Yeah, that, that's right. Did I, uh, did I tell you that my new associate, uh, my new hire, uh, wears a Powermatic 80 PRX blue dial? You did not. Is that why you hired him? Uh, well, I didn't hurt. I will say that, uh, I noticed in the interview. Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew What's he had to say for himself?
Everett He's, it was a graduation present.
Andrew Oh, that's a nice graduation gift. Like from law school or undergrad? It had to have been law school because it's a recent release. Yep. That's right. Yeah. That's a nice graduation present.
Everett Yeah. And it's a good watch too. I was like, it's a good watch. Yeah. I like that pick. And then he proceeded to say, are you into watches?
Andrew Have you been into my office and how long do you have? Cause I'm billing these hours to you specifically. Uh, so I saw this thing today and it said, uh, introducing Oris adds a 38 millimeter divers 65 to its core lineup for the first time. And I read that headline, I don't know, probably six times. And I was like, you are reading that correctly. How is that possible? And this is the most perfect release. This is like a Tiso release where it's like, no, that's been around this whole time. Hasn't it? Like this isn't new. There's been some 38s, I believe, like in some editions, some special editions, but this is now a core skew in the lineup. And it is such a good release because it's filling such an apparent gap in this line that I can't believe they didn't already have it. It'd be like, Oh, by the way, the Seiko five sports diver, now comes in black like no fucking way now comes in but started him son of a bitch like thank you for finally doing the right thing so they've shrunk it down a little bit this is still a diver 65 like i i really believed there was already a 38 of this because they've done so many iterations of it and that's something that oris does they do a lot of iterative
Everett And just to be clear, there have been a lot of 38mm Diver 65. Oris, like 75% of Oris' available collection at any given time is some sort of limited edition to a thousand pieces.
Andrew That's right. Yeah. So now it is a permanent addition to the collection and I don't know why they didn't do it sooner because it doesn't make sense not to have it. it was kind of shocking that this is a new release.
Everett Yeah. I think the most, I think the most notable, and they're four grand that was, which makes sense, but also like, well, I think that, I think that's based on the fact that this is a caliber 400. That's the most notable part of this release is this is a 38 millimeter with the caliber 400, which is Oris's sort of, uh, What am I trying to say? Their flagship movement, it's their in-house manufacturer caliber. Flagship, I think, is the right word for that. Dope, but it's like a five-day power reserve, just a terrific, terrific movement. So this is really a sensical release, like you said. It makes too much sense. And it's a great watch. If you've been to a watch show in the last handful of years, you've probably seen one of these, uh, and now it just comes with a rad movement.
Andrew I can't believe it's new. Yeah, that's it. Like they shouldn't have even announced it. They should have just like, fuck that one up here.
Everett You know, I will say the diver 65, they come in at almost 13 millimeters. I really at a hundred meters of water resistance,
Andrew That's a little, I do struggle with calling something a diver and not a skin diver and coming in under, like coming in at a hundred. If you're going to call it a diver, I sort of expect you to be at 300. 110? Yeah. Or 30. Yeah. Or those are your options. 110, 300 or 30. Yeah. But to call it a diver, there's even some like ISO spec requirements or you can't call it a dive watch, which is why they're calling it a diver.
Everett People, I'm okay with it, actually. People kind of like, and that irritates me with regards to this watch, because you know what you're fucking getting. So I'm okay with it. I actually kind of like their, it sort of feels to me a little bit like a, like a, like a little bit of a 11 points.
Andrew Yeah, that's right. But at 12.6, I think you can probably, you can eek out 300 meters and just go all the way.
Everett Or, figure out a way to make it thinner, right? Like help me, help me appreciate the fact that this is a hundred meter watch by making it 10, five or 11 or yeah, make it slim. Right. But yeah, whatever. I, we're, we're not pixel peeping watch specs. Well, that's actually almost entirely what we do. We do that. That's like what is what we do, what we do for free. Nevermind. Uh, yeah. Riveted bracelets still kind of met on that, but that's a, that's a thing though.
Andrew I like, I've just come to accept that that's the thing that they do. I don't like that they do it. This is never a watch that I'd buy in 38 in 41 50 16 like this is just never going to be a watch for me. Yeah.
Everett But I understand why it's a watch that people like, you know, I think the caliber 400 may be kind of chunky too, which, which,
Andrew Well, when you have to like trim diameter off, there's only one other way to go. Yeah.
Everett So it's fine. It's fine. Riveted bracelet.
Andrew It just, it's, it's cool. Really surprised me that it was the first full time edition. Like how I've seen this in 38 a lot. Yeah. What you got?
Everett Um, let's see. I am going to, that one wasn't mine. No, I guess that was yours. Well, I've only got two more things that I want to talk about. I really only want to talk about one. So Seiko 5 Sports Heritage Design, uh, Recreation Limited Editions. That's the headline I read. I don't want to really do that. Seiko released two limited editions of their Sports Heritage, uh, 5, right? Seiko 5. These are, aluminum-bezeled sort of retro Seiko sports. And they released these last year. These are kind of late 70s, late 60s, early 70s Seiko 5 re-releases. And I think 5126 movements were the original. And these things just look bright. Yes. They just look right. They look old, which is what they should look like. And in fact, if you look at the reference images of the original, it's like, oh gosh, that's almost one to one.
Andrew Except for the bracelet. That's my only bitch. If they had kept that straight link bracelet, that this would have been.
Everett Well, so these have straight links, but the original had like more of an oyster bracelet.
Andrew Is that the order I'm looking in?
Everett Yeah.
Andrew So this is the original. Oh, OK. I'm backwards on it then.
Everett And these new ones have a delightfully retro straight link.
Andrew Which is, I think, way more appropriate. You like the straight link. I like the straight link. Yeah. Because in looking at this, I saw the straight links and was like, oh, that's the OG. And now let's look at the, oh, they put an oyster on it. Nope.
Everett It's vice versa. Yeah. Um, this is the same bracelet that was used on the SRPK 17 from last year, which is, I think it's a shitty bracelet. I think it's like a pin in color bracelet, but aesthetically I agree with you that it looks, it looks the part right. Yeah. These are four or 36 movements. Not going to set the world on fire. Kind of boring, but exactly the right kind of
Andrew And they're 400 bucks, too, right? This is the like this is.
Everett The enthusiast watch, and this is this is like, what are we going to call this? Like maybe a racing case with like a tonneau case with a racing bezel is what I meant to say. It's got a dive timer, though.
Andrew I mean, it's like it's it's kind of like a like a speed diver.
Everett Yeah, that's right. These are cool, man. Yeah, I like the prices, right? The watch is cool.
Andrew That SKX four o'clock crown.
Everett Yeah, more of like, uh, yeah, like a true Seiko five crown.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, oh yeah. The, the sex KX is what the, at the four o'clock without a crown guard.
Everett And it's kind of recessed into the Tano. So it's just like barely there in true Seiko five fashion.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett This is, I mean, this is, it's a one-to-one of the 51, 26, 80, 90. Um, Yeah, this is a good release. I actually prefer the Oyster.
Andrew Oh, the Oyster, really? Yeah, I do. I like the straight link. I really like that style of bracelet, and I wish there would be some companies putting some time and money and effort into releasing bracelets like that. I think I'm a sucker for an Oyster, so. You are. But I also don't really care for this price point Oyster Seiko bracelets.
Everett I think that's a pretty fair point, Andrew.
Andrew Okay, I got something, and I'll be brief about it. Nizumi is a watch brand that we've talked about a good handful of times. It's been a minute, but yeah. And they do really attractive watches. Everything they make, I like looking at. I've never handled one, I don't think. I've never bought one, obviously. despite the fact that they would really scratch the itch. Uh, the baleen is like one of my favorite versions of the modern skin diver and they've done a new limited edition, super colorful, really fun version of it. So it's got, Oh shoot. What's that clothing brand that's done a bunch of co-labs that's the same kind of growing blazers. Yeah. Rowing blazers. Uh, color blocking design. It has very much that feel to it. Um, yeah, it's the, it's the baleen with some, with a limited edition color version and it's super fun. This isn't a rowing blazers. No, it's not. But it reminds me of, it's reminiscent of that, like that super eighties color block, bright, fun.
Everett Isn't Azumi Swedish?
Andrew Oh, I I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. My bad. Hang on. I'm going to their about us website page real quick.
Everett Yeah. This is 600 bucks. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. Stockholm. They're fun. They do good design. You know, they're, they're, they're kind of my kind of watch.
Everett They're like, Oh yeah, that's it right on the dial. Snoo-zoomy Stockholm.
Andrew I wasn't looking at the dial. I went to their website. Uh, they're, they're like my kind of watch, right? They're not really something to write home about, but everything about them is just good.
Everett Yeah. I really like the logo. I like, I'm going to say it, Andrew. I like the fonts. Oh geez. That's, that is high praise. I like the fonts. Uh, yeah, no, I I'm with you dude. There's like underrated watch brand maybe is what we're trying to say.
Andrew Perhaps. Yeah.
Everett And they've, they've been sort of twisted lugs on this guy.
Andrew They've been a steady contributor, right? They've, they've held their, they've done some loaded additions. They've held their main catalog kind of under the radar, but continuously for several years. I mean, I don't, I can't think of many brands who haven't like gotten big or failed that have just like held their position of like, Hey, we do cool stuff. And, we're going to keep doing our cool stuff.
Everett Andrew, I decided, uh, I'm done.
Andrew Oh, you did. You don't want to talk about the one thing that I already pooh-poohed?
Everett Yeah. I decided I'm done. Okay. You know what? We'll just, we'll just say Omega released, uh, Aqua Terra inspired by Armando Duplantis, who's like the greatest pole vaulter that ever lived. Uh, it's blue. Rides that pole right over the other pole. And moving it along.
Andrew Other things. That's a sport that I, like, every time I see somebody compete in it, I fully appreciate and recognize the amount of skill and athleticism required to compete in it. But having never pole vaulted, it's also one of those sports where I look at and be like, I think I could do that.
Everett I have exactly, I have the exact opposite reaction. You know, sometimes when you see something and you're like, I know that there is a technique involved that allows you, but I can't, I'll never be able to do that. That's how I feel about pole vaulting. Like I just know I'll never be able to do it. And so I'm like, it doesn't make any sense to even think about attempting it.
Andrew High jump and triple jump are sports like that for me. We're like, nah, I just don't have the athletic talent, but this is like, you could triple jump.
Everett Triple jump is easy.
Andrew I'm not saying I set a world record, but triple jump is, I mean, everybody can hop, skip, jump, but I really do feel like if you give me a stick and say, stick it in that hole and let it launch you into the air, I mean, I wouldn't be good.
Everett So, so Sam, my best friend in law school, pole vaulter, D1 pole vaulter, he's got poles in his house. I cannot wait just for you at home. I will, take video.
Andrew I'm prepared to stick the pole in the ground and launch myself into orbit. There will be video, people. Yeah, and it'll be a Guinness World Record.
Everett Oh, boy. This is exciting. This is an exciting thing for me to contemplate right now.
Andrew I know I'm not going to be good at it. I understand that. But it's one of those things that's so foreign to me that I totally recognize that I'm not a world-class athlete, but I, and I know I would never be a world-class pole vaulter. I won't, I won't make any predictions, Andrew, but I'm like, I could launch myself into, into the air, but either way, I'm excited to watch no matter what happens.
Everett Maybe you get the pole bent all the way over and you get your feet up in the air and it's like, holy shit, Andrew did it. I maybe, and maybe something different will happen. I'm excited to see the results.
Andrew Snap it. And like, like, Impale my my business with the shattered carbon pole Andrew you're too fat to do this probably I well, maybe actually yeah, not that you're fat at all But no, I probably am you know, I would say like when you look at MMA fighters and like man That guy is yoked. Why did why do I weigh more than him?
Everett I I do think it is the type of thing where you've got to have the right weight of pole and the right stiffness and everything else because. You would be talking about the right stiffness. You know, the action happens, the action happens in your flexing of the pole and your ability to transfer your weight at the right time. So. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. That's why I say, I know it's a, like an extremely technical, sport, but every time I see somebody do it, I'm like, that cannot be as hard as I think it is, even though I know it is. I think harder. Probably.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I think hard. Uh, so this has been, you know, 20 years ago now, but I, you've been on a jet ski, right? Everybody's been on a jet ski. I've not been on a jet ski. Never? A Sea-Doo? Anything?
Andrew I've never been on a single or multi-person like linear like propulsion water sport activity.
Everett What? Okay. Uh, really fun if you ever get the chance, but most see-do's or jet skis or whatever, right? Are sort of independently buoyant and they've got a wide platform. And so you get on them and you just essentially sit and you turn the accelerator and you go, right? Uh, pretty straightforward. However, they're... Except it's on water. Yeah, but it doesn't they're wide enough and buoyant enough that they're more or less stable, right?
Andrew Oh, yeah. No, I was I was not thinking instability. I was thinking in the way of control.
Everett Oh, well, yeah. Control is also pretty easy. However, there are jet skis that are much less stable. They're fast. They're light. They're nimble. They turn really quickly. And balance on these things is a nightmare. And I had a friend who had a racing jet ski and he's like, so here's what you have to do. You have to get it moving in order to mount it. You can't just mount it because it's not stable enough.
Andrew No, it's like sitting on a, on a, like trying to track stand on a bicycle.
Everett Correct. Correct. And so you, you can't just get on it, get comfortable, check your, you know, check your watch and then go. You've got to actually get up there with your right hand, start turning the handle to accelerate and then mount as it's moving. And I saw my friend do this and he's like, this is how you do it. And I'm like, I could do that. I tried it. I must have probably legitimately like a half hour of me just, and I never did it. I could never get on this thing. I'm guessing pole vaulting is the same type of like, I know what's supposed to happen here.
Andrew Yeah, but I'm not good enough to do it.
Everett But I'm not good enough. It's like wakeboarding.
Andrew I spent probably, I don't know, probably an hour in the water. I've done the same thing. Just getting the shit kicked out of me, like lost the board, lost my trunks, just getting destroyed. I'm like, why can't I just stand up? I know how to stand. I know, like I know how to stand on a board that's moving. Like I've snowboarded a good amount. Why can't I just point it that direction, get it out of the water and stay?
Everett No, man, I've, I've never was like, you, you make sure you straighten your knees and shut the fuck up.
Andrew Go like, no, celebrate the boat. Yeah, no. So now what I'm going to do, I'm going to take my life vest off. I'm going to turn it on upside down and put my legs through the arm holes. And I'm going to sit in my life vest diaper and just Bob in the water. Cause that's what I'm good at. That's my favorite way to chill in the lake upside down life vest pro tip. If you haven't tried it, it is magical.
Everett Same exact experience with the wakeboard. I did eventually, I did eventually click for me though.
Andrew Never for me. And I've never been more banged up in my life. Like go through the army air assault school, like just zero day, go through that obstacle course and you're fucking beat up. You have bruises everywhere. You have bruises on the top of your head. And they say, if you ever, ever encounter somebody with a bruise on the top of their head, they're battered. Uh, you've bruises everywhere. And I've never been more banged up than trying to wakeboard for an hour.
Everett Andrew, other things. What do you got?
Andrew I have another thing. So the other day I went grocery shopping and my wife was like, Hey, when you go to Costco, find this specific hammock. Why that one? She's like, cause they're cheap and they're great. I was like, okay. And if you've ever been to New Costco, you know that it is impossible to find things. They move things around, like even the shit that you know exactly where it is, is not where it belongs. So I finished my grocery trip while searching for this thing. I finally find it. It is the, um, it's Cascade Mountain Tech two-person hammock. And I was like, I always kind of poopoo these super lightweight, like packable hammocks. They weigh next to nothing. At Costco last week, they were 15 bucks. From the Cascade Mountain Tech website, they're 50. On Amazon, they're like 25. They weigh nothing. Absolutely nothing. Where's the specs? 1.75 pounds with a 440 pound capacity. And they really are double wide. Like you could comfortably fit two people in here. So I get it. And I'm like, we have two kids. And I was like, I'm not going to start fights over who gets to be in the hammock when we, cause these are like meant to go in the trailer. So I was like, I'm by two, whatever. These are probably shit. So like, we'll need two just to have one. Sam hooks one up on our patio between the columns of our patio cover and the kids are in it. Like they're having fun. Oh, fucking whatever. And I had ribs and a chicken on the smoker and I'm like out there just kind of dealing with the smoker. And I was like, I'm going to try this thing. And I, I laid down in it and I fell asleep immediately. Like, like I, I lay down, I lay down and I'm gone. It's like, Whoa, that was amazing. So here's my one bitch about it. And I, and I, it's not really a, even a legitimate bitch for what it is. I want some insulation on the bottom. I don't like that cold air underneath me. So I went, I went inside and I got a blanket and I laid it down underneath me. I went right the fuck back to sleep in it. It was so good. And for being like a 17, like a sub $20 Costco purchase, I was like, Oh my gosh, this is one of the best things I've ever got at Costco. It's so good. I, I cannot, if you, if you got someplace to set up a hammock and you don't have, cause when I was growing up, we had a, one of those like woven rope hammocks with like the. The big long sticks at the end. Yeah. The big long sticks at the end. And it's not comfortable cause that like those ropes just cut into you and it's unstable and it's like, it's fun to play on as a kid, but in terms of like actually relaxing in it, I would just like. Not your thing. Not my thing. But this like whole sheet of whatever material it is where there's nothing digging into your sides and like your elbow is not going to slide through the knots, not going to get super wide around your ass. And then suddenly you're stuck. Um, the sub $20 Costco purchase. This is, this is my other thing. Cause I whoo, that's my nap spot. Now I will, I will be napping in there all summer. It's fun. I might sleep there. Like just come home, get in the hammock and go to sleep and then nobody's going to wake me up.
Unknown Cool.
Everett I like it. Do you have one? I have another thing. Oh, do me. I don't have a hammock.
Andrew You don't have it. I have two.
Everett So, uh, you know, I spend a good deal of my week in a suit or something suit adjacent, right? With dress slacks, dress shoes. A collar. A collar, indeed. Um, and I, I have spent a lot of time, uh, trying to find good belts to wear in that context. So, um, I've had belts over the years that you pick up perhaps at a menswear store or whatever. They're typically $50. I've had belts from J. Crew. I've had belts from, uh, I had a Brooks Brothers belt. Um, they're almost, universally awful sort of genuine leather or bonded leather. They might look nice at first, but they don't.
Andrew They don't hold. They don't hold. They sort of flake and they. That's right. Warp and they. All, all. They stop doing belt things.
Everett They stop doing belt things. And eventually, you know, depending on how cheap they are. So I made the decision a few years ago to pick up a couple of cheap belts and just replace them when they broke. But you know, you're still spending like $30, 25 bucks and you know, and, and then the experience isn't that great. Uh, so a couple of years ago I got a recommendation for maybe a year ago, I got a recommendation from Merman, Merman, uh, and I bought one of their belts and it is better, but I still didn't love it. And so a few months ago I've, I've actually lost a bunch of weight and so I needed a new belt just in I've needed several new belts, actually, because none of my belts work anymore. And I went on the search like, OK, it's time. It's time to find a really good belt. Now, when you're wearing a suit, you can't wear a standard belt that you'd wear with jeans, an inch and a half belt. You need a smaller size, either one inch or one and a quarter inch. I kind of like a one and a quarter inch belt.
Andrew Because it fills the full loop. That's right.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew A one inch belt, it looks like a fashion accessory.
Everett I agree with you on that. So I like a one and a quarter belt, um, but again, really struggling to find something I liked. So I, I saw a recommendation, I think on Reddit on Reddit, buy it for life, or maybe men's men's fashion. I can't remember, um, for a company called 1350 leather. And I will admit 1350 was scary to me. That name just feels like, yeah, it sounds, it sounds a little But I went to the website, I went to the website and everything looked right. Okay. So we're talking about full grain leather, which is important, right? We're vegetable tanned English bridal leather made in the USA with brass hardware, lifetime guarantee sizes, right? Nine to 11 ounce leather, which is, uh, admittedly a little thick for a dress belt, but okay, I'll give it a try. So I ordered one of these things.
Andrew I think it's a little thick for a dress belt because of the way we've been conditioned to accept dress belts as not real leather.
Everett Ooh, fuck. So I ordered one of these things. It is, I just handed it to Andrew. Uh, it is very thick, I would say, but not too thick. That's leather. It is leather. I've been wearing this thing now for a week. It is absolutely perfectly and stunningly made. And the best part is it's 60 bucks, right? It's so stiff. And it gets off feel down at.
Andrew No, that's what I want. That's that vertical stiffness.
Everett So it's stiff, but also because it's bridal leather, full grain bridal leather, it will break in. and be excellent. Um, I'm just over the moon. So 60 bucks, right? You, you would pay 60 bucks for a bonded leather belt at men's warehouse, right? Or 50 bucks for something awful. And it's not going to be good. This is a USA made full grain leather belt and it's absolutely excellent.
Andrew Yes.
Everett And I would wear that with I'd probably get an inch and a half if I was looking for something to wear exclusively with jeans, but I am just blown away. I found it. I found the belt. This is the recommendation.
Andrew I'd wear a gun on this belt. Like super comfortably wear a gun. The stiffness of the leather. With zero hesitation. Yeah, without any kind of, because I've been stuck in the Carhartt world that's like inch and a half. They get kind of vertically soft after a year and then you go buy your new $30 belt.
Everett Yeah, and this is not going to do that. This is going to be a functional belt for 100% full satisfaction guarantee lifetime guarantee. USA made by from what I can tell a pretty cool company belts seem to be their main attraction, although they also have wallets and a few accessories like kind of silly shit. Yeah, dude, this is Legit.
Andrew Those are, those are loss leaders, right? They got to do something to get you into their brand.
Everett And obviously made by hand, made, finished by hand. You can see imperfections on the finishing and, uh, the edge dressing. Like someone actually hand edge dressed this.
Andrew Someone said, oh fuck, when that happened. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, it's fine. Yeah. It's close enough. It's on the inside of the belt. Cause there's nothing, there's no marring or imperfections on the visible surface.
Everett standard head screws on the rivets on the connection point. So if you need to change the buckle, you can, uh, rebuildable, I guess.
Andrew Or if you want to put on your belt buckle, you can.
Everett Yep. Yep. Yep. And the hardware is really nice. Obviously solid brass hardware. I mean, it's just, it's such a simple thing. It's amazing to me that such a simple thing can be so elusive.
Andrew Because it's so simple that people can do it for cheap and then people started buying it for cheap and they hiked their prices up.
Everett And $60 isn't cheap. Let's be clear. $60 for a belt is not cheap, but find me a better belt for $60. I don't think you can do it. I don't know that you do. It's terrific. They're available on the website. Andrew will put a link in the show notes. Yeah. $13.50. I found the dress belt.
Andrew You found the belt?
Everett I found the belt.
Andrew Because they come in a dozen different color variations. They're all brass hardware.
Everett Inch and a half or quarter inch, different hardware options, different... What do you call this part? Tip? Tip. Yeah.
Andrew Just the tip.
Everett What do they say? They actually say... Belt tip. Yeah. So you can either get an English point or a tapered tip. You can get... An English point is a snip nose. You can get a roller or a slider buckle. Terrific.
Andrew Yeah. These are, these are good. I've, I've seen a few brands like this that I've been like really tempted by. I'm like, ah, 60 bucks for kind of an unknown. I'm glad you, you dipped your toe into the water to take the flyer on it. Cause that's, that's the kind of belt that I want. It's a, It doesn't just hold your pants up. It like does the thing that you want it to do. It does all the things you want a belt to do. And it is affordable and it looks good. It's cool. And it smells good, even though it's been wrapped around your waist all week. Yep.
Everett Yep. Yes, it has. I did sniff it. Yes, it has. Yep. Sorry.
Andrew I'm not sorry. I liked it. Andrew, what else? It was on his pants when I sniffed it, just to be clear. I got nothing else, man. I'm on a lot of things.
Everett Well, uh, this was fun.
Unknown We should do it again.
Everett Uh, maybe next week.
Unknown Okay.
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Andrew Buh-bye!