A Snoopy for the People (283)
Published on Wed, 27 Mar 2024 22:08:32 -0700
Synopsis
The podcast hosts Andrew and Everett discuss a variety of new watch releases from brands like Blancpain, Singer, Drakken, Squale, Breitling, and the latest Omega x Swatch "Moonswatch" collaboration. They provide details on the designs, specs, and their thoughts on each watch. Andrew also shares his experience exploring different EDC (everyday carry) knives, starting with the Spyderco Sage 5 and comparing it to the Benchmade Bugout he recently purchased. They wrap up by briefly mentioning some movies and a new Apple TV+ show called "Manhunt" that Everett recommends.
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Andrew | Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, slinkies, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? |
Everett | I'm doing all right. It was, it was a lot of noise. |
Andrew | That was an insane amount of noise. Not a slinky though. |
Everett | Uh, I'm doing all right. Yeah. It's been, uh, I had a little sniffle this week, which kind of took me out, um, took me out of play, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's going all right, man. It's going all right. It's good timing for it though. Everyone's gone. Yeah. Spring break, spring break, colds are weird. Uh, families all down in California. So I'm sort of me and Larry are rocking the homestead. Larry. Sick bachelors. Sick bachelors. Larry being my 30 pound. miniature golden doodle. |
Andrew | Pretty brilliant dog. Kind of a Tasmanian devil of sorts. |
Everett | So yeah, I'm a little, I can tell I'm a little stuffed up. I'm a little nasally. Just a touch. I think it's going to be okay though. |
Andrew | I think without you pointing it out, no one would have noticed. And now all I'm going to hear is Kermit the frog. |
Everett | I've already got a Kermit the frog voice. Uh, back when we were in ROTC, there was a master sergeant who used to call me Kermit in classes because of the way I talk, which, probably one of the meanest things you can make fun of someone for, but it's fine. |
Andrew | Yeah. I could totally like unchangeable characteristic about themselves. Uh, yeah, he was a, he was an interesting fellow. I crossed paths with his battalion when he was a sergeant major. He was the op sergeant major. Who's like somehow scarier than the command sergeant major. I crossed paths with him and bumped into a couple of his Joes and I was like, How's Star Major Galindo?"And they like locked up and they were like, what do you mean? He is terrific. Thank you for asking. It's like, oh, he is scary. |
Everett | I dare say we must've talked about Todd Galindo on the show at some point in the past. A giant, like vaguely Asian tattooed man with scars on his face that had likely seen way more shit than anybody has any right to see. |
Andrew | Yeah. He was like Pacific Islander and Hispanic. Yeah. It's just beautiful skin. |
Everett | And also like, I don't know, 6'3", 6'4", and just yoked. |
Andrew | Yeah. But made of muscles and not feathers. That's right. |
Everett | Yeah. Mostly muscles. Uh, enough about that. Cause we're not here to talk about. We could talk about Todd. Todd Galindo. We're here. If you know Todd Galindo, say hi for us. Yeah. I doubt anybody listening does. I mean, the odds are low, but if you know him, you know him. You know, you know him too. Say Everett and Andrew said hi. |
Andrew | He won't remember. Too many TBI's I'm sure. |
Everett | Say Twitchy and Kermit's TBI. There it is. Uh, yeah. Uh, we're here to talk about watches, Andrew, and we are, and I think we've got a good lineup, man. |
Andrew | We do have a good lineup. We have some interesting stuff. Do you want to start or do you want me to start? |
Everett | I want you to start because my cell phone stuck in my pocket. |
Andrew | Oh no. Stuck in pocket cell phone. Oh, and, and I have to start cause I have none of your links pulled up yet. Um, where do I want to start? Where do I want to start? Uh, I know what I'm going to start with. I want to start with a totally outside of the realm of ever for me watch. Um, Blancpain has been doing some 50 fathoms releases, um, over the past three years, two years. Um, Over the last short history, like recently, right? In the last two years, there's been some 50 fathoms releases, some updates, some minor case changes, some dimensional changes, generally speaking. Um, and we have two new ones out right now. One in rose gold, which is like, uh, it makes sense. You got to drop this in rose gold. The one that actually got me excited is full titanium because what a perfect material to be doing the 50 fathoms in like I just that's the only way you could actually make this watch better unless you could fix the size but then you're compromising the watch and then it's just a whole thing uh in titanium and it is lovely it's a 50 fathoms though right it's it's part of their act 1 70th anniversary model um these are a slightly different case um these are the 42 millimeter case with a, we gotta get to it, 42.3 diameter, 14.2 thick, so 40 thick, red gold or grade 23 titanium case. This is the first time I've seen grade 23 titanium. I've only ever seen one through five. Is this like, maybe they're using the metric system? Yeah, I'm not sure what that means. |
Everett | Maybe centigrade? system. Some sort of metal. Um, uh, I don't know. |
Andrew | Either way, it's, it's different than other titanium's we see, I think not being a metallurgist, but, uh, and, and not had doing any research into the grading of titanium ahead of this, because that's not what we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about the fact that 50 fathoms is now available in titanium, which is terrific. Um, and it's, you know, it's 50 pounds, 300 meters of water resistance. Um, the same dial you know and are familiar with, um, comes in three strap options, a nylon strap, a tropic strap, or a bracelet. The rose gold does not come with a rose gold bracelet. That's not an option. And the titanium bracelet will cost you $2,500, which is kind of just whatever. Yeah. It's a drop in the bucket sort of. Yeah. And here's why it's a drop in the bucket. Uh, It's $19,300 titanium on the bracelet. $34,300 rose gold on a deployant strap. |
Everett | Yeah, it's interesting. The $19,000, the almost $20,000 for the titanium makes the $34,000 on gold seem like a good deal. It kind of does. |
Andrew | I mean, it really doesn't, but it's funny. It makes it a little easier to swallow. You're like, oh, it's only $10,000 more to get this in rose gold? Let's splurge a little bit today. |
Everett | Yeah. |
Andrew | A few mortgage payments. But yeah, it's, I mean, it's lovely. It's a, it's a 50 fathoms in titanium, which I think is a perfect color metal for the 50 fathoms. |
Everett | Yeah. I mean, I, I saw these and I read a little bit about, cause I, you know, in fairness, I don't know anything about Blancpain or the 50 fathoms. I understand that their movement work is really, really, really good. And that they're doing cool things. And that their movements themselves are really good. I think this is a hard, it's a hard sell for me, a $20,000 titanium dive watch that's chunky and kind of weird. |
Andrew | Yeah, but I don't, you know, it's a anniversary watch. And an icon piece. You know, it's for the Blancpain crowd. Yeah. This isn't a, oh, this is an interesting watch. It's for people who want Blancpain. |
Everett | Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, the movement is beautiful on this rose gold one with the sort of gold outline. I mean, it's gorgeous. I think maybe you have to know, like you said, you have to be looking for this watch. |
Andrew | Yeah. Yeah. |
Everett | Cool. Andrew, I've got a dive watch that we're never going to buy that I'd like to talk about. |
Andrew | I, you know, I had this one open. I know exactly what you're talking about. And I was like, this is interesting. And I, I kept scrolling and got to the end of it. And I was like, holy fuck, no wonder it's interesting. |
Everett | So Singer is a company that's been kind of a big deal in cars. They're a car company. And they've also been around making watches for a few years. So I think in 2017, they introduced the track one watch, which, you know, I don't know a lot about that was kind of before you and I got involved. It's very interesting. It's a very interesting looking racetrack watch. Um, I, it was before I got involved in watches. So I, I missed it and I, and I haven't really tracked Singer as a watch company, but I saw this thing pop up today, uh, in my feed or last few days. And I was like, what the fuck is going on here? So, um, this thing is not like any other watch I've ever seen ever. So you could, so when I first saw it, my reaction was, Oh, dive watch with a weird case. Uh, and then you start to get into it and you're like, wait, no, what? So the dial does not actually have a time of day timekeeping, uh, feature. So by looking down at the dial, you cannot tell what time of day rather what it has is this like dive cycle timer, which gives you It's got three categories. One of those is dive, one of those is chill, and one of those is fly. So I understand what that means is there's a period of time between dives that you need to sort of rest. You can't be diving. And there's amount of time after a dive before you can safely fly due to... That's the chill period. |
Andrew | You can fly, dive, and then you got to chill before you get back on an airplane. |
Everett | I think it's chill before your dive, dive, and then wait X amount of time before you can fly. Yeah. That's the way I understood it. |
Andrew | Yeah. You need 18 hours is what I, what I read here. I'm not knowing, I don't know, but. |
Everett | And so this is a watch actually for us to, I think, talk about intelligently. We didn't have someone like Frank, but we're not going to for this show. So I'm just going to say this thing is really weird. Oh, and it also keeps time, but it keeps time on a horizontally, viewed module that exists underneath the bezel that you can, by tilting your wrist forward, look at on the side of the mid case underneath the bezel. I don't know who this thing is for. |
Andrew | This is, so the idea of this is to replace a dive computer. It's to do all those functionalities as a mechanical tool because divers still use dive computers because they are objectively better at doing things than a dive watch. And this takes all those tools and lays them out as a mechanical watch. It doesn't have a depth gauge. No, but it has a way to time your depth. |
Everett | Oh, okay. Well, I'm just saying, I think that's actually what people use dive computers for. Uh, I'm not taking anything. I think this thing is so interesting that I don't dare criticize it because it's not like anything I've ever seen. It's beautifully finished and crafted. Uh, the dial is beautiful. The bezel is beautiful. The case is, I'm not going to talk about dimensions here. It's fucking huge. It doesn't, it doesn't matter. Um, I just think it's, I just think it's epic. Uh, And again, I talk about all the details, but I don't really know what I'm talking about. It has a helium escape valve. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's got this weird red tab thing that's interesting. Really getting into the nitty gritty here. It's just crazy. And then when you turn it over and you look at the movement, it's fucking gorgeous. This is called the Asian graph, Asian graph, Asian graph. It's an automatic movement with with 72-hour power reserve, mostly notable due to its architecture with a central 24-hour chronograph function and jumping indicators for both minutes and hours. It also incorporates a novel clutch mechanism that marries the chronograph to the gear train, relying on friction for seamless operation. And there's a link to more notes about that movement. But when you look at it, it looks like it's got about 13 billion parts and about 30 exposed rubies. I mean, this thing's fucking crazy, dude. Yeah. It's crazy. Now to Andrew's point, 85,000 Swiss francs, uh, not something you're going to pick up for a casual trip to the, uh, Bahamas, uh, |
Andrew | And and if you're the type of person who's gonna drop 85 Swiss francs 85,000 Swiss Swiss francs on a casual dive trip. I know two people who are excellent companions. |
Everett | Yeah Yeah, I mean it's sort of It's sort of absurd to think that this is anything besides a flex piece Well, and that's okay That's okay. I'm not criticizing that, but this is not practically, this is not a practical thing. They've, they've really pushed this thing for its practical capabilities, but given the price more than anything, it's not practical and that's okay. That's okay. No, it's still fun. It's fun. And it's, it's really lovely. It's one of the most interesting watches I can remember seeing ever actually. Certainly of the year. I mean, I mean, I can't even, you know, there's some MBNF stuff that I'm like, wow, uh, you know, or, or, or even auto VAC, whatever. Um, but this is more interesting than any of those. I mean, it just for what it's doing and how it's doing it and how it's moved things around and how it defies your expectations. And then you look at that movement and you're like, Oh my God, yeah, this thing's crazy. I, of course I don't want it. I mean, it's not something I even want. I have no use for it, but I love it. |
Andrew | But I love it. If I had a shoe box of 85,000 Swiss francs and was told this is to buy this watch, then yes, I'm going to have it. That's right. It's only got a 72-hour power reserve, so I don't know what I'm going to have to do with it. |
Everett | I will give you this 85,000 if you buy this watch, and only if. Deal. |
Andrew | Deal. Next up for me, this is a brand that I'm not really familiar with. The new Drakken Peregrine is out. And this is a really interesting watch. So Drakken Peregrine, a New Zealand based company, began on Kickstarter in 2018. Kind of missed the mark with size. They dropped this big, bulky, field-inspired watch. They were like, eh, let's clean it up a little bit. This watch is still a little big. It's a 42 millimeter. Kind of that field pilot, ambiguous zone, right? Because of the dial design, the case design. It's sort of a bit of an identity crisis. But what drew me to it was the color scheme on this black dial. It's got this really great blue accents on it. Peregrine is at the six o'clock in this... What would we call this blue? I would call this a cornflower blue. Okay, cornflower, I'm good with that. That same matching second hand. Your cardinals, or sorry, your 9-12-3 have that same blue triangle. power reserve indicator at the six o'clock, which is the first power reserve indicator that I've seen that I've been like, yep, I'm okay with that. I don't need it. I don't want it. And in fact, you can remove it, but the execution of it is terrific because it's super, super, super subtle. They replaced the markers. I don't know what's that two minutes on each side of the six o'clock with your indicator with a little Little red bar at one end to say that's the low end. |
Everett | Oh, you're getting in trouble. Yeah. You're almost in trouble. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. I'm sitting on your dresser and you can't see me, but it's getting serious. |
Andrew | Yeah, exactly. It's kind of silly. The font on this is kind of weird. Yeah, I like it. But I like it. It's perfect. It's like just that combination of really true to a vintage-inspired dial with just a splash of modernization in it. Crown left on this thing. Great angles on the case. The movement in here that they're using is the Miota 9130. I could go for 10 more meters of water resistance because we're only sitting at 100, and for this style of watch, I really do think you need to do better than 100. especially at 12.75 thick. |
Everett | Yeah. It feels like it would be a 200 meter watch. |
Andrew | Yeah. I think that the technology is there and to not do it. I'm not really, I'm well, I don't, I do know why. And they're not doing it because on a bracelet, these are 479 bucks on pre-order. Um, their market price is going to be 600 bucks. These are, this is an interesting small brand watch. And this is kind of like, this reminds me of, five years ago when you have all these brands popping up and doing kind of similar, but kind of just unique stuff. This is like OG small brand stuff. I like it. |
Everett | Yeah. I mean, this has the feel of a 2018 of a 2018 sort of overbuilt micro brand to me, but you can see there's refinements, uh, along the way, but they haven't, they haven't given up. on their roots, which is to say, you know, you have that really sort of starkly machine shop knurl on the crown. You've got, you know, big chunky lugs and facets. You've got that huge, it looks like probably a four or five millimeter rehaut. Yeah, that's big. That collapses down into the, you know, so you've got, and you know, the angular hands, this has got all of those elements of a 2018 micro brand. And yet it's refined. You've got female end links. You've got really beautiful proportions. 1275 is a little much, but whatever. |
Andrew | Um, it's a big watch 42 millimeters, but it's not so big as to be, but I think for this kind of piloty field watch 42 works, you know, this is, this is kind of, um, kind of the, like what's the type B. With the triangle and the two dots. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of type B dial like this is this works. |
Everett | That's cool. I don't I don't hate this at all. And I like I agree with you. I really like their incorporation of color. I even like that pop of red on the stupid power reserve indicator. |
Andrew | It's just yeah. |
Everett | Yeah. Yeah. Forty two and twenty two. I mean this feels really 2016, 2017 to me, but not, I don't mean that to disparage it. I actually think, I actually think 2017 is cool again. So, uh, good for them for carrying that torch. Huge rotor. Speaking of, I don't mean to cut you off. |
Andrew | Speaking of, fuck me. |
Everett | Um, continue. Speaking of 2017 is cool again. Uh, sorry, Andrew. You're the worst. Last year Longines introduced the Hydroconquest GMT. It's fantastic. It's lovely. I love it. And then this week they introduced a follow on to that. So with the 41 millimeter Hydroconquest GMT, you think, okay, and the natural move is to go introduce the 38. Longines said, no, we don't. We're going to give you a 43 millimeter Hydroconquest GMT. And all right, I'm here for it. It's super long gene. I'm here for this. So this is a flyer l 844.5 caliber, which is a really, really, really neat movement. If you haven't read about it, you should. I mean, it's, it's whatever it's, it's a GMT, it's a flyer GMT. Um, but they're doing this. They're doing this, a Flyer GMT in a $2,400 package, excuse me, $2,800 package, $2,775. And this thing seems to be exactly where I would expect it to be given Longines sort of emphasis on quality these last three or four years. I feel like Longines has dropped banger after banger after banger. You know, we talk about I think for a long time in the enthusiast world, you had Oris, you had Zinn, and you had Tudor that kind of led that mid-range or that entry-level luxury world. And then you had other brands like, you know, Tissot, perhaps Longines, Raymond Wilde that are like kind of known in the industry, but like eschewed by the enthusiasts. I think what we've seen in the last several years is Longine come back and be like, eh, we're still fucking rad. And look at what we can do. |
Andrew | We've never left the table. We never left. Yeah. |
Everett | Open your eyes, fucker. And, and man, I'm feeling this. I'm feeling this. So look, it's a 300 meter water resistant, Hydro Conquest GMT that's now bigger. So, and I think what we're seeing is that people want bigger, right? I mean, is that fair, Andrew? I think people want bigger. |
Andrew | I think some people want bigger. And I think for a watch like this, bigger isn't necessarily better, but this at 43 is way better than this at 38. Yeah, it plays. Yeah, I agree with you. A dainty, chunky tool watch doesn't make sense. |
Everett | You know, I read an article on Worn and Wound about this that suggested that this is Longines playing into their non-enthusiast, playing into the non-enthusiast buyer of Longines. I'm not totally sure that I agree with that assessment. I mean, it must be at least partially true. But I think that there is an enthusiast market right now for bigger, no shit watches like this. Great GMT movement. You know, the only thing I didn't find on this, do you have a Z dimension on this? So it's 43 by 49. Ooh, I didn't look. I assume this thing's gotta be coming in at, I don't know, 13 |
Andrew | Yeah, I'm imagining 13 and a half. |
Everett | But I can't verify that because I haven't seen, let me see, let me see. Oh, 12.9, 12.9. So it's 190 grams, which is a lot. |
Andrew | It's going to wear pretty thin because of that curve in the lugs, just the right amount. |
Everett | And at 43, that thins the case out a little bit too. I mean, look, this isn't going to be This is going to probably wear like a Seamaster 300, you know, uh, with that GMT. This is a killer watch. It's a killer release. I think they did great. This thing comes in three color ways. So it comes in a black, uh, black on black. It comes in a great sort of like ocean blue on blue with some lighter blue highlights. |
Andrew | And then this like all live nigh on yellow, nigh on gold. |
Everett | with a bit of fotina, which I don't, I don't hate in this context. Um, yeah. |
Andrew | White would have looked poor, like just bad on that. |
Everett | Yeah, I think that's right. I don't know. |
Andrew | Hard to say. I think it would have taken away from the richness of that, like really interesting green. |
Everett | I think the blue, I think the blue is really the winner from this group. |
Andrew | I agree. I think this green is far more interesting than Tudor's blue. |
Everett | Yeah, this is a cool drop. I dig it. I'm here for it. |
Andrew | 24 hour ring on the bezel. Yeah. |
Everett | Dive bezel. 24 hour ring is on the rehab. Yeah. Yeah, on the bezel. Sorry. It's got a 60 minute just regular dive timer on the bezel. |
Andrew | I like it. I want to try one on. I don't know that this is for me, but I still want to try one on. |
Everett | Does, um, skis do lodging? I don't know. Be worth a pop in there. |
Andrew | See if they do grand Seiko though. Yeah. Okay. Next up for me, Ooh, I'm going to talk about a new release from Veyor, which is not a brand that we've talked about in a while. And there's doing like kind of slyly just expanding their catalog like, oh, we're going to add this. We're going to add this. We're going to add this. These interested me. This is from their R1 racing line. And they've just dropped a line of three chronographs inspired by vintage racing. And they are all the colorways that you would expect. And they did them really, really well. So the first chronograph is the R1 USA Racing Chronograph Cream 38mm. I love the 38mm size on these tonneau cases, like no bezel, just every bit of like the 60s and 70s or just a slab of metal coming out of a CNC machine or like perhaps a dude on a lathe. Throw the flush crystal on there. The cream bezel is what really sings to me. So it's cream bezel, 369 sub-dials, a yellow secondhand black three o'clock sub-dial, white six o'clock, and a vertically bisected red and black sub-dial on it. They're using, what are the movement they're using in these? |
Everett | It's gotta be a VK. |
Andrew | It almost is certainly a VK. Yeah, MegaQuartz. Yeah, so probably the VK64. |
Everett | This is MegaQuartz, not MecaQuartz. Let's see. You know, VEAR, for being a watch company, does not do a great job listing their specs on their website, Andrew. |
Andrew | They do not. And I think because they are a watch company that appeals to non-watch people and watch people alike, they do cool enough stuff that we kind of forgive their oddities. Uh, there's a black dial and a, um, all black dial. These are fun. And, and there is a brand that is like constantly interesting to me. Um, some of the stuff they do that I hate a lot of the stuff they do. I like, I like that they do, uh, American assembled watches and Chinese assembled watches. I like their cross section of automatic and courts options. I think this is a this is a cool release. These are, you know, vintage inspired chronographs that are attractive, affordable. Like this is this is kind of our bread and butter space. This is the kind of stuff that got us started into down the road of like really cool shit. |
Everett | You know, so you specifically brought up the cream dialed version of this. I'm looking at the black dialed version. |
Andrew | So the black on black or the black with very colors? |
Everett | Black with lots of colors. So this guy. |
Andrew | Mm-hmm. |
Everett | So this is the Panda, they're calling this. So it's a black dial with Panda accents, a big white chapter ring or cream chapter ring. The thing I am kind of blown away by this watch is that depending on what strap it's on, with a black strap, the dial winds up looking really black. And then on a lighter strap or a bracelet, it shrinks it, it shrinks it and makes it look a lot like more colorful. This is a really, yeah, they've done a really good job with their colors here. Um, just making it interesting. |
Andrew | I looked at that and I was like, wow, that's stark contrast. Those are actually just different watches. Yeah. Those are different dials. That's why that is such a, such a big contrast. |
Everett | Yeah. This is a cool watch and you're right. This is sort of, 40 and 20 bread and butter. I think this, I would have no, zero reservations recommending this to someone. This is a cool watch. And it's a strap monster too, dude. This thing looks great on everything. |
Andrew | Yeah. FKM, the bracelet on it is good. I've never, gosh, I don't know if I've ever had a Veyron in hand. |
Everett | I have had a number. I've met the owners on a number of occasions. Yeah. Really good dudes. Too bad they don't come on our show. |
Andrew | It's because of you. I bet they would if we asked them. Yeah. They already talked to me and they said, if ever it's not there, we're down. I don't know why they would say that. It might've been due to your numerous meetings. |
Everett | All right. I've got another watch to talk about. Do it. Um, so this is a moon swatch. |
Andrew | We know, uh, several months ago we said that it was going to be the last moon swatch we talked about. |
Everett | Well, we got to talk about this one because this is the coolest moon swatch. Uh, Omega slash swatch dropped the coolest moon swatch. They did it. You thought you had, you know, I thought my mission to Mars, I thought my mission to Mars was the one it's not. Um, Omega dropped an all white, white party, Snoopy moon phase. This is actually called the mission to the moon phase moon swatch. And it's a banger. It's a banger, right? It's good. It's good. Uh, so this has a moon phase moon phase being represented by Snoopy on the moon on a half Crescent moon on a half Crescent moon. Uh, also, uh, also there's a Woodstock phase to that. Uh, I'm not sure that I've seen that phase though. Um, I mean, look, it's an all white moon swatch. It's non-limited. It's $430, which is a lot. You know, whatever, but it's a moon phase. Gosh. |
Andrew | Ooh, the loom on the moon phase disc is so good. |
Everett | And there's a secret message. I can't sleep without a nightlight. written in there. I mean, you've got the moon image has a paw print on the back. This thing's, I mean, I don't even like a Snoopy watch. I don't even, I'm not even, but also, yeah, you gotta have this. Oh no, I said 430, US 310. Yeah, I don't know why I thought 430. Yeah. It works for me. |
Andrew | I think I agree. It's the best moonswatch. It's cute. It also looks really good. It's really subtle, snoopy imagery. Iced out white. This is good. |
Everett | I mean, it's just, this is the best one, right? This is the best one. Ah, boy. Yeah, this is a good one. They did it. |
Andrew | Now we can be done with them. |
Everett | There's no moonshine gold to speak of, which, you know, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. |
Andrew | But now we can officially be done with the moon swatch. |
Everett | I mean, or not. Just keep dropping bangers. I'm fine with it. This is rad. In the spirit of swatch, more is more. I think this thing is awesome. The only thing I do worry about with this, I do worry that it's going to get dirty. |
Andrew | Oh, super fast. The strap is going to get yucked. |
Everett | The white strap on my moon swatch is pretty hard to keep clean. Uh, and I don't wear that thing all that often or all that hard, but it's definitely a bit tricky to keep clean. |
Andrew | Well, and the bio ceramic is almost like, it's almost like a resiny texture when you touch it. |
Everett | Yeah. The case, the mid case actually hasn't gotten dirty. It's really the strap that's gotten dirty. So I don't know. We'll see. Um, yeah, this thing's cool. |
Andrew | Good release. |
Everett | That's all I have to say about it. Yeah, we don't, I mean, we've talked about the moon swatch ad nauseum, but. |
Andrew | Next up for me, titanium's a thing this year. It sure seems to be. We're into March and we've had, you know, well over a dozen new titanium drops. This is the Squala Master Titanium, oh sorry, Squale Master Titanium 120 Atmosphere 65th anniversary watch and you know what it is just in titanium and it's great it's great uh getting into the dimensions real quick 41.65 millimeter case 16 thick 48.9 lug to lug grade 5 titanium so everything we've talked about barring Blancpain is grade five titanium. Do you think it's possible that they're using titanium five times greater or is that like a, it was the, they're like a computational error where they meant to do grades two plus three to be five. And that's still perplexing to me. Um, brushed ceramic bezel. It's, 120 atmospheres of water resistance, 1200 meters, and it's lovely. Titanium is such a good looking metal for this watch. It's got that sandwich dial, like just, mm, mm. |
Everett | I'm for it. Yeah, you know, I think we, or at least I tend to think of Squalor in terms of sub homages. Um, and, and the squalors that are not so homages are flawed either because they're just kind of like older designs or, or whatever. Um, they're like Doxa. |
Andrew | They haven't changed or, or even Zodiac. |
Everett | They haven't changed their designs in 50 years, but also like haven't refined, you know, their squalid is a great job with making a good watch, but they're just not pushing the needle in terms of of watch design. And so it's cool to see them take a minute. |
Andrew | You know, I will say... This has a four o'clock bezel and a helium release valve. This is cutting edge shit. |
Everett | I will say this is really even still not the most refined case. And that's okay. It doesn't need to be. It's a neat release. It's not an homage. It's beautiful. It's kind of spending $2,500 for this guy. |
Andrew | You know, $2,500 though for an all titanium 1,200 meter ball and dive watch, I think that's in the zone. |
Everett | Okay. Titanium grade 23 is similar to grade 5. Oh, because it's 2 plus 3. But has lower oxygen, nitrogen, and iron. It has better ductility and fracture toughness than titanium grade five. So I, I think that these are both sort of superior alloys, um, and their compositions really close. Um, but 23 is just. |
Andrew | A little bit less shattered prone, just didn't get as much gas in the chamber when they were doing all the ionization and smelting perhaps it seems to me like they're |
Everett | Very, very close. |
Andrew | Which is probably why it's 23. It's two plus three. Yeah, that's right. |
Everett | Yeah, so this, I mean, titanium aside, Selita 201, elaborate grade, grade five titanium. I'm for it. It's a cool watch. The dial is really interesting. |
Andrew | Yeah, so it's this... Is it a sandwich dial? It looks like a sandwich dial, |
Everett | With like brushed applied edges to... In lieu of markers. |
Andrew | And it almost, I mean, it probably is not a whole loom disc underneath the dial, but it could be. But you don't know that it's not. Yeah, it very well could be. But yeah, so in lieu of markers, we have, you know, a sandwich cutout with applied hollow markers to expose the loom on the meat of your sandwich. |
Everett | It's a great HK skin diver type. Yeah. This thing's cool. |
Andrew | You know, I, I'm typically underwhelmed by their watches, but I saw this, saw that it was in titanium, kind of looked a little bit closer at the dial. I was like, you know, this is, I'm down with this. This is a big chunky, no bullshit to a watch. And you, you could do anything you wanted in it and just never worry. |
Everett | It's 16. It's the thick bitch. It's 16 thick. Yeah. Which, okay. |
Andrew | Oh, so the lower base disc is an entirely loomed disc. |
Everett | What? Okay. All right. |
Andrew | I don't know why. That seems unnecessary. Maybe it's easier to do the whole disc. Just dunk it and move on with your day. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. A little splash of red at the six o'clock. or the Squalamaster, just the master part of the Squalamaster logo. |
Everett | You know, I don't really understand. So wait, is it 120? No, it's 1200 meters. Yeah. 120 atmospheres. Yeah. I was thinking 120 meters. I was like, I don't get it. No. 120 atmospheres. Yeah. Which is 1200 meters. A lot. That's a deep |
Andrew | diving watch. It allows, you know, it'll outlast me. |
Everett | All right. All right. 16. Okay. I'm, I'm okay with this thing. Yeah. |
Andrew | Okay. Like a 16. Like it's, it's, it's a, yeah, it's like 120 meters. |
Everett | Why does it need to be 16 and a half thick? |
Andrew | Okay. It's for all the layers of dial fine. That loom disc is no, it makes sense. And, and, you know, it's, it's obviously not going to be everyone for everyone. Cause this is a thick, you know, this is a, |
Everett | There's a super deep diver. Andrew, did you know that in 1999, a couple of guys circumnavigated the globe in a balloon? On purpose? Yeah. So Bertrand Piccard and Brian Jones, the first two men to circumnavigate the globe in a balloon. They did it in 1999. |
Andrew | That seems really, really recent for such like antiquated technology. You know, you'd think that'd be like a mid 90s, like at the latest, like a 1950s accomplishment. But if you're doing it in the nineties, it's like, Hey, no one's done this before. Why don't we? Yeah. Yeah. |
Everett | It was like, has anyone ever done the globe in a balloon? We could do it, man. Let's do it. Anyway, |
Andrew | I don't have any memories of this happening now that we're talking about it. I'm like, I remember this like event and it being exciting, but now I think back on it and like, that's way too late, man. All right. All right. |
Everett | Okay. So it's fine. So to celebrate not only the 25th anniversary of that circumnavigation, but also the 140th anniversary of Breitling, there's been a bunch of Breitling releases, a bunch of 41 millimeter Navitimers that everyone's like, Oh, Brightling's lighting it up right now. |
Andrew | All right. All right. Whatever. And we all know sketchy dudes wear Brightling. And I kind of like Brightling, which I think might make me sketchy. |
Everett | This is 140th Annie aerospace, which you know, I'm here for no, I'm here for the aerospace to celebrate the 21st, 25th anniversary of Picard and Jones circumnavigation. It's got an orange, it's got an orange dial with a kind of like an ombre orange with a Breitling orbiter three logo on it. I think that's the colorway and the, uh, logo for the, for the mission. Uh, it's look, it's an aerospace, which means it's fucking rad. Um, it, it, it, it's everything, you know, you'd expect from an aerospace. It's got a display or maybe not a display case back, but a see-through case back where you can see through to a piece of the actual balloon, which is to say this thing's limited because, uh, but, but here, here's what I like about this. So it's an aerospace 4,700 bucks. This is like, or I guess 4,900 on a titanium bracelet. This is like the right price for this. It's got the B 70 movement. Um, uh, Yeah, I want this watch. All titanium, titanium bracelet, orange ombre aerospace with a piece of balloon in the back. I want it. |
Andrew | Didn't Around the World in 80 Days, wasn't that like, didn't that happen in the 19th century? |
Everett | Didn't they fly in a balloon? Yeah, I think maybe. But I don't think they did it all in a balloon. It was just one segment. Yeah, I like this. |
Andrew | This is cool. This is I'm totally for it. Nevermind the novelty of having a scrap of the balloon in your watch. The dial is phenomenal. This Anadigi color scheme, it like reeks of the nineties, but modernized. And did you mention that it's in titanium? |
Everett | It's all titanium. It's an aerospace. It's titanium. Yeah. Fuck yeah. |
Andrew | Titanium's the thing. This is, uh, it looks a little long. |
Everett | It's a lug to lug. I think it's like 50 on the lug to lug. It's a big ass watch. |
Andrew | It's 42 millimeters. This reeks of like 1990s arms dealer. And I'm for it. I could do this. |
Everett | Yeah, I'm for it. I want it. It's an aerospace. 4,700 bucks. And you can probably fucking buy it, even though it's limited because it's Breitling. It's an orange Breitling. |
Andrew | Yeah, it's going to be limited for like the next seven years. Right. And then the last brand new in box one will be purchased. That's right. Uh, it's good. And you get a piece of the balloon. You'd hang that up on the wall. |
Everett | Andrew, is there any other watches that you'd like to talk about? |
Andrew | Um, you know, I want to, I want to mention something. Yeah. |
Everett | I know what you're going to mention. No, you don't. I do. |
Andrew | Tony Bennett. You did know. Um, The estate of Tony Bennett is going to auction. I'm not going to talk about all the watches that are available, but there are, his watch collection is among the items that are being auctioned. And some of these are just, well, all of them are gorgeous, right? Cause they're Tony Bennett's watches and many of them were gifts. So there's personal engravings on the back, diamonds, sapphires. The one that is just, kills me is this Cartier. To Tony, thanks. Frank A. Sinatra. And you can tell that this watch got worn. Yeah. A lot. And it's just beautiful. It's nicely aged but still really well cared for. It's a Pasha chronograph from Cartier. Plain steel. From the 90s. Bronze dial. This looks like it's far older than the 90s, but whatever. Yeah, that's a 90s Basha. Uh, a watch from Lady Gaga, like just a good representation of the impact that Tony Bennett had in the industry around. And, and these watches are going up for auction. You won't be able to get one. I won't be able to get one. It's cool to see them. It's cool to see some like closeup pictures of these rather than like the smudgy images that we get from the paparazzi, like watch sighting, Tony Bennett wearing Pasha Cartier, probably the one Sinatra got him. It's cool to see these watches in lot photography state. |
Everett | Yeah. Tony Trena did a great write-up on this on Hodinkee.com, and a link will be in the show notes. Andrew, we didn't get to everything. There's a few watches that I thought I'd talk about that I didn't. We rarely do. |
Andrew | You know, that's, there's a, there's a Mido release for their 80th anniversary. |
Everett | There's a, some new Timex cues that are really cool. We'll drop a link to the Timex's in the show notes. |
Andrew | The Timex's are cool. We might save them for, for the next round up. Cause these are, this is some good additions. The Q line is getting cool. It's also getting a little weird. They might be done. Um, My battery in my queue died. I went to put it on the other day and it was dead. Yeah, I mean, that's a quartz watch. That's what happens. I know, but I went to wind it. Nothing happened. You're shaking it. Wiggle! Yeah, it didn't come back to life. I still almost wore it, though. |
Everett | Andrew, other things. What do you got? |
Andrew | Oh, so I started a new show on Apple TV and I saw a trailer for it a few weeks ago and didn't it kind of just forgot about it. Um, and I was scrolling looking for something to watch and I saw the tile for it and I was like, Ooh, yes, I want to watch this. Uh, so the series is called manhunt and it's a miniseries very much the way, uh, HBO used to do like single season miniseries. Right. Do you remember those days where you got like nine episodes of a show? And then I was like, thanks for playing. That's it. Like true detective or? Yeah, or I'm trying to think of other shows. I think Band of Brothers in the Pacific are good examples, like where they experimented with that miniseries format. Generation Kill. Yeah. One of the greatest shows of all time. Another good example where they were experimenting with the miniseries format, which I think is a really great format for specific things. And I think this story is the perfect story for a miniseries because it's far more deserving of nine hours than of three. So Manhunt is the story of the hunt for John Wilkes Booth and his accomplices immediately following the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. And they tell this story in a really fascinating way. So it starts in what we'll call modern time being the time that the show is set when Abraham Lincoln is still alive, breathing, it starts with the receiving the surrender of the Confederacy. You get that, and he's excited, and Edward Stanton, the Secretary of War at the time, who was close friends with Abraham Lincoln, is there, and they're rejoicing, and then you get some flashbacks. And then you get some kind of contemporary flashbacks, like three hours ago over here, And it's, it's a little bit hectic keeping like you can't second screen this. You have to be paying attention because there's a lot going on. There's a lot of movement through time and space. Cause a lot of things happen simultaneously. So the assassination attempt on Lincoln was also in conjunction with two other assassination attempts. One was not carried out and the other one was failed. So they're telling these stories, you know, and you have to view it in, you know, at one time, you can't triple screen it. Um, but it's great. Some of the casting decisions are a little silly. Uh, I won't go into them, but then you see, you see people on the screen, you're like, that was the wrong person for it. And I'm sorry for you. You just don't fit like that. You're just wrong here. And everyone knows. Interesting. Even, you know, um, but other casting decisions were great. The acting is really good. The story is really good. We have three episodes out right now. It's going to be a seven part series. It is absolutely worth a watch. It's great. Like the costuming is great. The cinematography is great and they do a really good job not making like they don't demonize Booth and his compatriots in a way that you kind of expect them to, nor do they humanize them. It's a, it's like a pretty objective, like this is what happens. These are like, and obviously with, you know, some artistic license on conversations and stuff, because no one knows exactly what happened, but there's like, Nope, this is him. This is his ideology. He is not a hero, nor is he a demon. He's just a person who holds these beliefs. I think they did a good job of that. Cause it'd be really easy to super dramatize him and make him this like huge, enormous bad guy. Cause he was a huge, enormous bad guy, but that's kind of like, I don't know. That's played out and boring. Yeah. Yeah. |
Everett | It's like a nuance. |
Andrew | Yeah, but they did a, they, it's very good so far. It could fall off a cliff. I don't know. It could suck eventually. You're three episodes in three episodes in and I've enjoyed them all. The first episode I had to watch twice cause it was second screening and I got to the second episode and I was kind of like, I think I've missed some things. And it's cool cause it's like, I don't know if they, I don't think they shot on location. Um, I haven't looked into that, but it's like I've been in the Ford theater. I've seen these things and if they didn't shoot on location, they're set, Construction was just phenomenal because I'm like that I know that I stood there It was cool. I Like it. It's good. It's definitely worth a watch. It's a good period piece. It's quick moving, too It's not like it doesn't drag you along. The story is well paced so far unlike some other yeah, some other miniseries where it's been like just Happen already get something please happen. |
Everett | Yeah, I'm ready for something to happen. Well, Andrew, I've got another thing do me And I'm excited about this one. I think it's going to be fun, but, but first I'm going to get some freebies out of the way. Okay. Okay. I watched three movies. Dream Scenario. Oh yeah. You've been on a binge. Uh, Spaceman and Ricky Stanicki. I watched all three of these. All three of them were good. |
Andrew | Spaceman, the Harlan. Space. |
Everett | No. Spaceman is, uh, Adam Sandler. and he's a spaceman, he's a cosmonaut. It's very good. Anyway, so I'm just going to briefly mention this. I watched all three of those movies. I think all three of them are like mediocre reviews. I enjoyed all three of them. |
Andrew | Mediocre reviewed movies are some of my favorites because it doesn't catch the critics and it doesn't catch the people who want to second screen it. |
Everett | It's either going to be bad or it's going to be good. One of those two things. I would say for all God, you should review movies for all three of these. I really enjoyed them. Um, Ricky Stanicki I think is what it's called. Ricky Stanicki is awful and also really, really funny and good. And I really enjoyed it the entire thing. So, um, yeah, I'll move on. So here's my other thing. Last week I, Oh, that looks funny. It's it's funny. Uh, John Cena prime. Did you have to rent it? No, it's on prime and it's, it's available on prime. John Cena is fan tastic. He's fantastic. John Cena might be a good actor. He, he is wonderful. Yeah. And he, he actually makes the movie Zac Efron is in it. He's whatever. John Cena is in credible. It really, really funny stuff. |
Andrew | I think it's cause he comes from a, professional wrestling background. |
Everett | It's not my other thing. I'm moving it along. Okay. Okay. So last week I talked about a, a knife I picked up. I bought a knife and it was, I think strangely one of the most, uh, some of the most feedback we've ever gotten on an other thing. |
Andrew | Last week was the bug out, right? |
Everett | Yeah. So I, so I bought a Benchmade bug out. It's the carbon fiber Gucci bug out. I love it. I've been playing with it and flicking it and handling it. But being me, I did the thing where I was like, you know, this is a knife and I really like it. I bet there are other knives I would like. And wouldn't you know it? Wouldn't you know it? So I have gone and bought four knives. Anyway, I bought four knives that I'm going to talk about on the show. And I'm going to talk about one per week. I'm going to do a thing where I talk about the best EDC knife for me. And I'm going to do that by procuring these four knives. I want to be really clear because some of you are knife people and some of you are going to have opinions and some of you are going to judge me. Let's, let's be clear on a few things. One, this isn't a goal to find the best EDC knife, right? The goal is not, is not to objectify the best EDC knife. That's not what I'm doing here. That's, that's a totally futile goal too. I'm finding, so what I've done is I've looked at the available knives and I've selected four that are interesting to me. Okay. So just let's be real clear. That's what I've done here. And I'm going to talk about all four of them and I'm going to share my thoughts on all four of them. I don't, so that's point one. Point two, I don't know anything about knives. I don't know anything about materials. I don't know anything about metals. I don't know anything about grinds. I don't know anything. I just, you know, I don't know anything about fucking knives. |
Andrew | So take- Everett just wants a sharp fidget spinner. |
Everett | That's what he wants. That's what I want. |
Andrew | And ninja stars are out of the question. |
Everett | And so all, all four of these knives are kind of similar in, in size. They're all in that roughly three inch blade length. None of these are honkers. None of these are mini. Um, they're all like medium, medium EDC knives. Okay. So tonight I'm going to talk about the second one. I think three of these is the bug out among your four, the bug outs among my four, the bug out is number one. So tonight is tonight is the Spyderco. |
Andrew | And are these, Oh, so that one is in your lineup. |
Everett | This one's not. Okay. That yeah, this one's because that's not I've just pulled out a tool roll filled with that's not an ADC knife. |
Andrew | That's right. That's like, that's like even even on the large side of a tactical knife. |
Everett | So what this is, is a Spyderco Sage five. This is actually a discontinued version of this that has like a carbon fiber g 10 laminate handle, which I think is fun. But the Spyderco Sage 5 Lightweight is essentially the same knife as this with a little slightly different scale material. I found this knife after watching 8 billion YouTube videos. |
Andrew | I dropped off birthday cake at his house on Monday and he was watching YouTube videos of knives. |
Everett | It's true. It's true. I'm sick. I could barely breathe. I had a terrible headache and I was watching knife YouTube videos. Eating birthday cake. Let's find some dimensions on this. |
Andrew | It's currently out of stock on the Spyderco website. Dimensions on it are tech specs. Overall length 7.13 inches. For those of us in watch world, 181 millimeters. Blade length three inches. CPM S30V steel. |
Everett | So this is a crucible S30V steel, which is not anything fancy. It is just a very, very good run of the mill steel. I think five, 10 years ago, this was a very high-end steel, but steels have come a long way since then. It is a compression lock, which go ahead. I don't like it. So compression locks are, Andrew said, Oh, it's a, it's a liner lock. And I said, no, it's a, it's different than a liner lock. It's a compression lock. Mechanically speaking, it's different. Um, but in terms of the way it actuates, frame lock is what I called it. |
Andrew | Cause that's what I call it in my head. |
Everett | Yeah. And this is different than a frame lock too, but mechanically the way it works, actually, so the Spyderco Para 3 is probably one of Spyderco's most famous knives. It's also a compression lock. The blade shape on this is a little different than the paramilitary blade. It's more of a leaf shape with a curvy top. |
Andrew | But just the grip on it is phenomenal. So I want to spine lock on this though. |
Everett | The ergos on this knife are incredible. So compare that we're comparing knives. |
Andrew | So compare that. The clip on it's fantastic though. This is like crazy light. |
Everett | Compare the ergos. So, so the Benchmade is a really, the bug out is a really sort of, I don't know, I think it's fair to call that a boring knife, but it's also not like doing anything super well. The, the drop, point to the the drop point blade is beautiful. And but it's kind of a boring knife. Comparatively, the Spyderco has this like, and so Andrew, you you are actually gripping that thing choked down. I know. Yes. Because the finger choil, you can get all the way up on the blade totally safely. It's a really, really fun knife. And I picked it up and I was like, ooh, |
Andrew | I really like the cutout in the blade of Spydercos. Yeah, that hole, their famous hole. The torque that you can put on the blade super comfortably is unlike any other blade manufacturer. |
Everett | Now, just just yeah, and I think that that is sort of the thing people like, you know, I think if you've only seen pictures of the Spyderco, you might be like, I don't know, not kind of ugly. They're kind of ugly. But then you pick one up and you're like, oh, OK, I kind of feel it. I will say the Spyderco is half again as heavy. I think you've got two ounces on the bug out and three ounces on the Sage five. Super noticeable, though. In their base models, they are about the same. The Spyderco's like 150 for the lightweight and the Bugout's like 170. The Spyderco is full steel liners, countersunk steel liners that have been milled out. So what you get is a more substantial knife. Again, three ounces versus two ounces. I don't know that that's a huge difference, but you do notice it in the hand. But it just feels like, it feels like more knife when you have it in your hand. You're like, oh, okay. It's sort of confidence inspiring. In fact, I think one of the things that people don't like about the Bugout is how light it is. I think the Bugout sort of feels like it should be flimsy. Now, there's been a number of YouTubers that have tested it, and it's just not. It's a very tough, incredibly robust knife, but it feels flimsy. And I think that not everybody likes that. You pick up the Spyderco that Sage 5 and you're like, ah, I get it. This is a much more substantial feeling knife. I don't know that that means it's tougher. In fact, I'm sure it doesn't, but it does feel that way. It's more confidence inspiring. So between these two, I really love them both. I, as I sit here today, don't have a winner between those two. And I'm not sure I'm going to pick a winner between the four of these. I've got one of the other ones now and the other one's coming. One of those of the other two is not gonna be a surprise and the other one I think is a dark horse. |
Andrew | So I think these two knives do very much the same thing. The prime difference between those is that if you pull out that Benchmade at work to open an envelope No one's going to go, whoa, a knife. You break out the Spyderco, people are going to do that. The Benchmade looks like a letter opener, like a stiletto, kind of like a, a very more gentlemanly, refined gentlemanly, like you're going to, people are going to look at it like you, you pulled out a, a case sod buster, right? Like, oh, that's a knife that is perfectly appropriate for exactly what you're wearing right now. Spyderco comes out of jeans. Yeah, that's right. |
Everett | That's right. Yeah, no, you're 100% right. And it's because of the blade shape. |
Andrew | It's because of the grip shape. I think it's a lot more comfortable, but I'm not sure if it's more functional. |
Everett | You think the Benchmade's more comfortable? |
Andrew | No, the Spyderco, I think, is more comfortable because it's got a little bit of curve to it, which is like half of Spyderco's knives look like half circles when they're open. Yeah, that's right. And, but it's just because of that grip lets you get some purchase on it. |
Everett | Um, even when they're closed, they've got a, a, a very pronounced footprint. Yeah. I would say both of these in the pocket disappear. They're both super light. Oh yeah. Um, both of them have, uh, a deep carry clip. The, the Benchmade is probably just a touch deeper, a little bit more of the Sage five sticks out, but it's hardly noticeable. Um, Yeah, they're both really cool. |
Andrew | I really like them both. The deep carry on the Benchmade I think is a little bit more flush because you don't have that same curvature in the grip. |
Everett | Yeah, it actually winds up sticking up just a little bit higher because of the placement on it. Both of them. |
Andrew | You can't put it any lower because of the shape of the grip. |
Everett | No, I will say for a lefty, the Benchmade's truly ambidextrous, the Sage 5 not. They both have reversible clips, but because of the compression lock, left-hand actuation, I think that might be what you don't like about compression locks, because for me- I use every knife I've ever carried has been in my right pocket. Oh, you're a right-handed knife carrier. Okay, well, maybe not. Yeah. |
Andrew | I use like kitchen knives left-handed, but utility knives right-handed. That's a weird thing. |
Everett | Andrew, we've talked about this. Andrew's weird about his handedness. I'm broken. Andrew, here we are, hour eight. Shocker. Part two of, part three of the EDC watch journey will come next week. Knife, not watch. What'd I say? You said EDC watch journey. Don't worry, don't worry. Part three. I'm not worried. Of the EDC knife journey will come next week. All right. Andrew, anything else you would like to add before we hang them up for the day? Nothing that people need to hear. Hey folks, I want to thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the watch clicker podcast. Do me a favor, check us out at our website, watch clicker.com. That's where we post updates and articles and reviews and other fun stuff on a weekly, bi-weekly, tri-weekly basis. Even if you want to check us out on social media, you can do that on Instagram at watch clicker or at 40 and 20 underscore watch clicker. If you want to support us, and oh boy, we hope you do because we need it. Look, we need it. We got to buy microphones and software and hosting. You can do that at Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. That is how we get all the money we need to keep this thing going. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Check it out. And don't forget to tune back in next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. |
Andrew | Bye bye. |