The Second Best Dune This Week (280)
Published on Wed, 06 Mar 2024 22:38:20 -0800
Synopsis
This episode covers a roundup of recent interesting watch releases and news. Some of the key highlights discussed include:
- The Precidis Type A11DD45 Dirty Dozen homage watch with a unique thin metal bracelet.
- The Junghans Meister Telemeter Edition JF chronograph with a telemeter/tachymeter combination.
- Omega's new white dial Speedmaster Professional with callbacks to the Alaska Project.
- The inaugural British Watchmakers Day event happening in London, showcasing independent British brands.
- Christopher Ward's new C65 Dune GMT with a depth illusion dial design.
- Seiko's iterative improvements to the 62MAS reissue watches with better movements and water resistance.
- The discovery of affordable eighth sheet aluminum baking pans for kitchen use.
- An appreciation for unique multi-chromatic "vague" inks by Sailor for fountain pens.
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| Everett | Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. |
| Andrew | You're listening to 40 in 20, the watch clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett here. |
| Everett | We talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? Super duper. Uh, really good. I am now what's today? Wednesday. So Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Sunday. I'm just a little over four days from Utah. Oh, that means we got to record again on Saturday. We do need to record this weekend. Yeah, perhaps Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday That doesn't work. And I was, the trial, the two day trial has been on the precipice of settling. I may have said this on the show before, but like, it's like 95% of all cases settle and don't go to trial. And I would say in my line of work, it's higher than that. The 5% that don't settle are probably something like, I don't know, 90% family law, right? Like for civil litigations, we're talking about probably 99% of all cases settled. Non-domestic relations, civil litigation, almost everything settles. And so this case has been on the precipice of settlement for four months, but we just weren't getting there. And we had significant settlement talks about three weeks ago. There's three attorneys, three parties, three attorneys. And I was like, okay, this is going to happen. Well, it's not happened. It has just not happened, so. Taking it right down to the wire. Monday, so today's Wednesday. Trial's supposed to start on Thursday. So Monday, I'm like sounding the alarm bells in the office, and I'm also like on these other two attorneys because they're dragging their feet. I'm like, what are we doing? Anyway, I'm like, okay, I've got this hearing on Friday, and that's going. Friday's hearing is going, no matter what. Like, I can push this off. So I'm kind of trying to figure out, like, what am I going to do here? I'm like actually in trouble. And you never think you're in trouble. These things happen sometimes, something will get double booked and you're like, well, one of those is going to go away. Yeah. It's hard for both of those things to go away. One of those is going to go away. So yesterday we filed these other, one of these other attorneys was like, I'm not ready for this. You know, I can't, I think we're going to settle, but I'm not ready to settle. And I'm not ready for the trial because I thought we were going to settle. And I'm like, well, be better. Right. And I'm like, well, so anyway, they submit a motion to postpone, um, yesterday afternoon, which is way too late. Um, and like, as of, as of about two o'clock today, we still didn't know. So we're like, I'm getting ready for trial in the morning at two o'clock. I get an email from the court on the Friday hearing and it's, Hey, sorry about this. but we need to postpone Friday's hearing, please talk to the other party and get it back to us with dates."I'm like, all right, well, there's one problem gone. And then about three minutes later, I got an email that the order to postpone the other one had been granted. So. Sounds like you got a long weekend. And I'm going to Utah tomorrow. So, uh, yeah, all that to say, like, here I am prepping for a trial and a hearing, both of which are going to happen at the same time. Uh, that's doable. And my, my mind is an Alta. So I'm like physically here marking exhibits and my brain is halfway down a black diamond in three inches of powder. |
| Andrew | The delays. And all of that were just, they were too great. |
| Everett | I'm there, man. I'm there. So anyway, that's how I am, Andrew. I have just relieved, I've been relieved of a massive amount of stress. I arrived for a trial earlier this week and went to, into the DDA's office who told me, oh, sorry, I'm actively writing a motion to postpone. |
| Andrew | I was like, we start in 10. She's like, yeah, I'm almost done. |
| Everett | Sweet. You don't need me? Nah, cool. I'll see ya. Judge McAlpin, who is our presiding judge here, is, he's got a sense of humor, but he's, presiding judges are the ones that do trial calls, so they're the ones that kick out. And he is incredibly tough. Yes. He's incredible. I don't like going in and in. I told you, you know, to us. So we've got trial in the morning at two o'clock or just after two fifteen to thirty. We get his order and it says something to the effect that I actually probably have a picture of it. No, I don't. But it says something to the effect of council for scheduling purposes should be aware how close this order was or this motion was to being denied. It was very comma very close. I like printed this thing up and walked it to the other attorneys in my office just because we were like dying. It's the funniest order I've ever read in my life. Get your shit together. It was very very close. |
| Andrew | I love like when little subtleties like that can also be the middle finger. Yeah. |
| Everett | Yeah. Yeah. That was an admonishment. Oh yeah. No, we're in trouble for sure. We're in trouble. Yeah. Uh, just a comma and a very five characters, six keystrokes and somebody is, uh, is, is having a stressful evening. Yeah. We're, we're in trouble. Uh, but it got postponed. It's going to settle. |
| Andrew | You're not in trouble. You didn't file them. |
| Everett | Motion I did file the motion. Oh, yeah, you did. Okay. So yeah, you're in trouble. Yeah, I'm in trouble I mean, he knows it's all of us, right? He knows that it's all of us, but Yeah Yeah, he's gonna step on your toes next time he sees, you know, I'm not in court with him very often and that no He's gonna find you in the hall and he's gonna walk by his step on your toes and give it a little twist Do to scuff your shoes. The good news is he's a super nice guy. So Uh, yeah, Andrew, I don't know if I asked you, how are you? Oh, I am good. I've had a really busy few days. Uh, I've been like daytime traveling for work, like not working in town, which is exhausting. Uh, so today I was entirely in town, which was really nice. And I, uh, ended up leaving something that I was supposed to be doing cause I had some support cause I have some, some big things on my plate. So I came home. put my headphones on and just worked. It was nice. |
| Andrew | And that's, yeah, just, you know, chugging along. |
| Everett | It's nice to not have like actual stressful things happen. |
| Andrew | Like my, my new stress is like, I'm against a deadline. Yeah. Which is like the normal baseline for what like spins people out. |
| Everett | And I'm like, I can handle this. I can, I can deal with this. In fact, today I like got to the point where I felt like I was going to be done working and I was like, well, this isn't done. |
| Andrew | It's not going to get done. |
| Everett | That's right. Yeah. That's right. That was liberating. Yeah. I mean, for me, short of like, I've got to be in a courtroom tomorrow morning. There's almost nothing that can't wait. Yeah. And even I've got to be in a courtroom tomorrow morning can apparently wait. Yeah. Until a two 30 a day prior when you're very, very close. Yeah. So I love shit like that. But you know what, Andrew, we're not here to talk about civil procedure in the state of Oregon. Rather, we're here to talk about watches. And so we will. We're doing a bit of a roundup. Unusual. Unusual. And there was some fun stuff. Actually, when we started looking this week, I knew that there were a couple of things I wanted to talk about. But it was actually like, I started looking into the announcements this week and I was like, It was kind of a banger. Everything seemed really under the radar this week. For a week in watches, this was a good one. Yeah. Yeah, there was some good stuff. I'm going to start. I know why you're starting. You're trying to swoop. |
| Andrew | No, I'm not swooping. I am not Sherilling you. Stupid. |
| Everett | Did you like it? I did. I liked it. I want to talk about a watch that I was kind of surprised by how much I liked. |
| Andrew | It is the Type A11DD45 Dirty Dozen, according to Presidis? |
| Everett | Yeah, I think that's right. Presidis? Presidis? Presidis? It's not Presidius, because that's what I want to say when I see it, but it's not Presidius. |
| Andrew | No, there's not a second I. I think Presidis. |
| Everett | I think that I is soft. Oh. I don't know why. Okay. Presidus? I feel like that would... I think it's Presidus, but it's somewhere in between those two. It's not Presidius. It's not Presidius. That's right. We can't agree on that. That would be adding a letter. I'm going to say Presidus. You can say Presidus. And then we'll have our bases covered. I saw a reel. I've seen the same reel a couple times over last several months and it's this Australian lady and it's like some POV thing when you go down under and you say no and you just chew on those vowels. And I was driving to Grand Ronde yesterday from Eugene, so it's like a two hour drive. And it just for some reason popped into my head. It's one of the reservations in Oregon, by the way, the Grand Ronde reservation. It's Grand Ronde, Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde. We actually don't really have a reservation. We have one, maybe two true reservations, but the Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde exist in a county a couple over from us. They have a casino there. So it's, I don't know if it's, it's like tribal territory, but maybe not a true reservation. Yeah. It's not, it's not like, Like reservations exist in the Midwest or in Montana, right? Or even in Washington. It's not, you know, a fucking state within the state. It's just like a little, there's a casino. |
| Andrew | Anyway, I'm driving out there and it, and it struck me, you chew on those vowels. |
| Everett | Nar. I was like, Oh, that's how they say no. Oh, I get this thing that I've like seen several times. And I'm like, I don't understand why this keeps popping up. Nar. |
| Andrew | Oh, that's how they, Oh, funny. Um, I don't know why that popped in my head. |
| Everett | It was an aside, but I liked it. It was, it's like, like when, when, if you say raise up lights, it's actually sounds like how an Australian would say razor blades. |
| Andrew | Uh, so anyhow, so the precedence version of the a 11, they're calling it the DD 45. |
| Everett | Um, after having just talked about the too many or maybe not enough, versions of this watch. |
| Andrew | I saw it and was immediately very excited. I'm going to go right into the specs. So we have a 38 millimeter case, 11.8 thick, domed sapphire on it. This, we know this, this is a small seconds version of the A11. |
| Everett | The bracelet though is what really got me. It's got like a hollow thin metal, like exactly what I want. Bullshit bracelet that you know is going to be so good. So the bond club, right? It, it looks to be, I think it's a bond club. Yeah. |
| Andrew | It looks to be so when I and why I'm excited about it is entirely because of a whole other brand. |
| Everett | So when Sarah started dropping watches with these really super thin bracelets, I was like kind of concerned about them and got the opportunity to put one on at wind up in New York last year and was all in. Every concern was not just alleviated, but like, No, you're a fucking idiot for being concerned about this. This is phenomenal. As good as, as Sarah, because watches are that bracelet construction, that design, the comfort of it is next level. |
| Andrew | And I think that this is going to be exactly the same thing. |
| Everett | I think it's the same bracelet. It might be slightly different, but I think it's the same. No, they use a, a, um, a little bit more like filled in. This is like almost, it's almost like, like two hours. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like hollow, bars. It's close to a ladder, I'd say, but it's not that because that's not a lot of bracelet. Yeah. Cause that's fine. I know what you're saying. Um, this is, this is good. And this is a, a great, I think a great interpretation of the design at the time. They're kind of spin on it. They're using the, um, Lander on L two, four, six U H R. and calling it the ETA 2824-2 alternative. Automatic. Well, I think it is an alternative to the, I think it's a, it's like a one-to-one repro of the. But, but it's still not that, right? It's the, it's. It's the Landeron, yeah. |
| Andrew | Yeah, it's the Landeron. 28.8, 25 joules, 40 hours of power reserve. This is good. They're calling the, yeah, it is a bond clip. So it comes on a bond clip. A purlon textile with pinbuckle or a brown leather. The bun clip is what you got to get this on. These are going to be available on Pi Day, March 14th for those of you who don't know about mathematics. |
| Everett | $875 on the straps or $9.25 on a bracelet. I've never gotten to be hands-on with a Precedus. Their watches are all of that ilk. They've always interested me. I like them. This is a really good release. It's a cool release. Yeah. And, and it's a, it's a fun watch. I mean, obviously it's an a 11, it's a dirty dozen watch and obviously proceed. This is not one of the companies that was no amongst the dirty dozen, but the they've done a really good job with this and it's true to form or at least Aesthetically, it's true to form. I think they did a good job. |
| Andrew | They have a super subtle sandpaper texture on the dial that's like fine enough grit that it takes some looking at because texture dials kind of ready for another one. They can rub me the wrong way. |
| Everett | I'm on fire tonight. |
| Andrew | Oh, no. And I'll apologize in advance because these are going to keep coming. |
| Everett | Super subtle texture dial, which in this application I really like. So I've got a watch by a company that I actually don't know a ton about Youngins. Younghens? Youngins. Youngins? Yeah. Um, Youngins is I think perhaps most famously today known for its Max Bill, um, you know, Bauhaus Max Bill watches, which are beautiful. And I keep meaning to pick one up and just don't, um, something about that watch, right? It's like, I kind of want this, but I also don't need it. And anyway, it creates interesting overlap. I get it. And I think there's a, ultimately there's a reason why you, right. Right. So young hands is a, what, uh, like 200 almost year old company, 150 75 year old company, uh, who at one point at one point was the largest producer of clocks in the world. |
| Andrew | Mm. |
| Everett | You learn something new every day. I didn't know that actually until. They've just released the Junghans Meister Telemeter Edition JF. This is a throwback to a 1950s chronograph, a 1951, that had a combo telemeter tachymeter display. So it may not surprise you that this watch has a tachymeter-telemeter combo on the outside of the dial. This is a really lovely watch. It feels to me very Youngins with that big dial, but because you have so much going on here, the dial doesn't seem all-encompassing. It seems like it's perhaps less dial than it actually is. In fact, 99.99% of this watch is dial. Yeah. But you've got two complications to eat some of the dial up. That's right. So, so it's like the Nighthawk that's like all dial, but also all slide rule. Right. That's right. So the story that we're given here is that the managing, um, the managing director of Youngins, a fellow named Hans, Hannes, Han Stein, uh, but found this 1951 model, made one for himself and within the young and staff, it was kind of a hit. So they've made 150 of these. This is a pretty beautiful, so it's a gold toned watch chronograph. You know, we don't see a lot of telemeters. I think we probably talk about, about them almost every time they come out because we think they're cool. Um, I think they're cool and I think you agree. But really, this isn't a complication we see a ton of. You know, a telemeter is sort of limited. This is like a wartime thing, which was meant to be able to tell how far away bombs or artillery were. How far away the 88s were when they were shooting at you. That's right, because light travels faster than sound, and a telemeter measures the distance based on the delta. Anyway, so you see the light, you start the telemeter, you hear the sound, you know how far away it is. So this has a, and in modern day, you can use that for lightning or, you know, other things. 88s also still. That make light. To the watch though, cause it's pretty cool. You ought to see a picture because I can't really do this thing justice. It is a black dialed, it is a black dialed chronograph. with a white strip that almost gives it the appearance of like a black bezel to watch. So you've got this black telemeter ring or black tachymeter ring, white telemeter ring, and then this black dial, uh, gold, gold toned accents all the way around. Uh, size is size on this is really good. So it's 41 millimeters ish, 40.8, 12, six thick for an automatic chronograph, uh, yellow PVD, uh, really sort of kind of conservative and short lugs. Uh, and for being a 12.8 millimeter watch, the profile is really thin. I just found this watch kind of captivating. There's only 150 of these being made and I don't know, I don't see that it's a limited edition. It does say it's limited to 150 pieces, but I don't know that it's, truly limited. You know I'm not sure they're holding themselves to that I guess is my point. |
| Andrew | Well they and they also have other additions that aren't this gold DLC. There's a there's a silver dial. |
| Everett | There's a black dial. It's this this PVD. Is it PVD or DLC. It's PVD. So this PVD version is the limited one. There's other additions that are not PVD. Of the same watch. Mm hmm. Oh OK. Well there you go. And the YoungHeads website, I think you get this thing translated, but yeah, it's a little hard to learn too much about this, I'll just say. Anyway, I think it's terrific. It's 2,500 bucks, which is, for an automatic chronograph, kind of in the range. It's an ETA movement with a Dubois, Duprat, chronograph module on it. I'm not exactly sure how this works. Um, but whatever it's, it's how it is. Yeah, that's, it is the way it is the way it's got these great sort of, I think they're like semi-obular, uh, pushers, good big crown. This watch is just rad. I mean, I, I'm not going to say a whole lot more about it cause it's not a lot to say. |
| Andrew | So something that I, as I'm, |
| Everett | looking at pictures of this from the top down. It looks like this is a stepped lug. Hmm. But when you look at profile photos and in every color way, so I've now looked at all of the available iterations, all the top down photos look to have a step, but in all the profile views, it looks like that step doesn't exist. It comes right up to the case, to the top of the case. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. It's almost like a shadow is being cast on the, |
| Andrew | on the lugs from that top down. |
| Everett | This is a really great case profile too. It is. Yeah it is. It's a beautiful watch. And the curve of those lugs they're like really steeply curved and and mounted like mid watch to kind of suck down some of that thickness. |
| Andrew | This is a this is good. The the non limited the silver and black dials |
| Everett | I'm looking at them now. |
| Unknown | Can I see? Can I see? |
| Everett | Yeah. They're like 23, 2400 bucks. |
| Unknown | Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. |
| Everett | That's that silver. It's beautiful. |
| Unknown | That's a, that's a really beautiful watch. |
| Everett | Come up picture. Come up picture. The pictures on that website aren't great. Some of them. And they like don't load. Yeah. Oh, here we go. Oh yeah, it's got like a bit of a dog bowl to it, which is what gives it that really slender look from the side. This is beautiful, man. It's a really cool watch. Not something that I was familiar with. Me either. But definitely a cool watch. What's that I like? What's next, Mr. Andrew? |
| Andrew | Oh, I want to talk about a thing. |
| Everett | British Watchmaker's Day. Hmm. |
| Andrew | The inaugural event is being held at Lindley Hall in Westminster, London. |
| Everett | 40 confirmed exhibitioners this weekend on March the 9th. So if you happen to be in London this weekend, this is going to be really cool. And it's, I think what's exciting about it to me, And I didn't do a whole lot of, um, digging into it, but of the 40 confirmed exhibitioners, we have Arkin, we have Christopher Ward, Clements. I'm only going to talk about people who've been on the show. |
| Andrew | That's it. |
| Everett | There are, there are, there's going to be a longer, no, there are many, many more over 40. And I think when I saw this, I got excited because I remember one of the first times we talked to Mike France, one of his goals was to create this coalition of British watchmakers and really revitalize the British watchmaking industry. And I think this is a huge step and this isn't all due to Mike France, right? I'm not, it's not as much ass and momentum as he can generate. This is a reflection on the revitalization of watch industries throughout the world. You know, we saw this huge decline in watchmaking during World War II. And when then what was left was totally decimated by the quartz crisis. And then what was left was consolidated by enormous conglomerates afterward. You know, we had Hamilton surviving in the United States. And then they got swept up. Yeah. And in the last 20 years, we've seen this huge resurgence of independent, small brands making their mark on the industry and not just in making their mark on the industry and not just in the way of, Oh, we're here, but design. and development and research and, and truly being on the tip of the spear of innovation and pushing this industry forward. This is super exciting stuff. I'm really happy for it. You know, it's, I think it, I don't know really how to equate it to things like, um, Oh, what's notices, um, intersect. Yeah. It intersect or at, you know, wind up or at district time or things of that ilk, these shows that bring people together around watches. I think this is maybe a little bit different themed, but it might not be right. You know, we'll have to see the, uh, the after report, but this is, this is super cool. So British watchmakers day happening this Saturday. That's exciting. |
| Andrew | That's really cool. |
| Everett | It's pretty neat. Yeah. And, and I think. And it's happening at Westminster. Isn't that where the King gets married? At Westminster Abbey? Uh, I think that the population of Britain is something like 20% of the United States and the land mass is obviously. Like 8%. Yeah. It's a much smaller land mass. So I think that, you know, in, What's the population of Texas, Andrew? 10, no, 12 million-ish. Hold on, I'm gonna Google it. So the population of Texas is 30 million, I think. Wow, that wasn't even close. I think the population of Britain is about twice that. And so you get, this is roughly like a California or Texas, On steroids, right. The whole country exists within it. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of the land mass and the amount of people in the land mass you know, when you compare that to the United States, I mean, in the United States we have you know, just an absolute plethora of nations, right. Which in the, in the ecumenical sense, right. We've got these, these tribes, you know, the, the, population in the Pacific Northwest is much different than the population in Louisiana, for instance, or, or New York or the Northeast. Right. And so I think that, you know, it's harder for us to conceptualize something like this. Um, you know, whereas in my mind it's, it would be really easy in another world to, to think of like the Texas watchmakers guild, you know, not that I think that there's a ton of watchmaking happening in Texas, Um, but yeah, right. Like to the extent that was a hotbed of watchmaking, you could see it happening there in a way that it couldn't happen in the U S at large. So in some ways I'm kind of jealous of that. Like their country is intimate in the way that the United States just probably couldn't be geographically and socially. Um, yeah, no, it's, it's cool. It's cool. This is exciting and it's exciting to see. this dream of British watchmakers coming to reality. Yeah. Yeah. It's neat. And, and some really probably like, I mean, certainly you've got, uh, Germany, uh, you've got, oh, studio underdog also involved. Yep. That's another one. We got another one. You've got, you've got, you know, Germany, you've got, you know, there's some places in the world where, where watches are happening, but I think England, Britain, is up there in terms of like the most dynamic sort of. Yeah. And it's, it's a re it's a true resurgence in the way that, you know, we're seeing in the United States. Yeah. Uh, you know, an industry that was once really heralded was decimated and is back baby. It's back baby. Uh, I've got a weird watch that I'd like to talk about. Weird. So isotope. Oh, OK. A few years ago, isotope had a dive watch. You know, isotope makes these kind of funky. They released the will return. Dive watch and the will return is is a reference to those signs that folks hang in the door when they're stepping out for a minute. So mom and pop brick and mortar shop. I'm going to be gone for 15 minutes. They'll put a will return at three o'clock. Out for lunch. That's right. And it's got these, you know, kind of bubbly hands with vague tips. So Isotope has a watch called Will Return and they've just released this in a new color way. And I just, in a way that the original did not do for me, this version of the Will Return is so charming. It's got like these really sort of classic colors. I mean, you look at this thing. It looks like the sign you would buy at Lowe's. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | And in fairness, the first one, the first one did too, but just for some reason less to me. So this is a red bezel, red hand, um, with a blue, with a blue strap is what this comes on like a blue tropic strap. And I just think it's terrific. It's got a fully loomed white dial with the hydrium branding at the bottom isotope branding at six or at 12. These really like borderline comedically legible Arabic markers within like sort of a raised pad printed. This thing is, it's just so cute. Yes, it's so freaking cute. FKM tropic style strap and oh, guess what? 300 meters of water resistance. When you look at this watch, it does not occur to you to me, I should say, that this could be a hyper serious 300 meter watch. It's got this very sort of like almost soda can tab, seconds hand. And size. Yeah. I mean, this thing just looks like it's not a kid's watch. So this. No, it's the size of a tuna can. It's 15 millimeters thick. It's a pretty big watch. It's a 40 millimeter watch, 48 millimeter lug to lug. Like you said, 15 millimeters thick, although a full two millimeters of that is crystal. But 13? It's just such a fun watch. But yeah, the proportions make it look like a kid's watch, but it's not. This thing is terrific. I really, really love it. Another lander on movement. What gets me excited about this is the three hundred and fifty millimeter version. The wall clock. Yeah, that's right. Comes as its as its compliment. Not a not a red bezel with the wall clock. A light blue bezel with the wall clock. Right. I like that. Reminiscent of the original will return. Yeah. So this is the red bezel version. The aptly named will return red that comes with if you'd like a wall return, which is that colorway of that original. This is pretty terrific. What do you get? So for 840 pounds, great British pounds, you can get just the watch. For another 145 pounds, you can get just the clock. Or if you'd like to get them both together, you can do so for 940 pounds. I think those prices are pretty close to dollar prices. I don't think there's a huge difference. Yeah, these days we're about one for one. Yeah, that's right. |
| Andrew | So say 40 bucks if you buy them both. |
| Everett | I think I'm into the wall clock though. The wall clock's pretty terrific. So let's see. Okay, so the hydrium times will return red and wall return is $1,222 for the combo dollars. dollars and that's on preorder. So the preorder ends on it says three days and 13 hours which is what Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So you can preorder these till Saturday for that price. Isotope will also be at the British Watchmakers Day. They have not responded to our numerous requests for free products. So What's next, Andrew? Next up. We haven't asked them for free stuff. We don't ask people for that. Oh. But if they do send free stuff, we say nice stuff about them. |
| Andrew | Yeah, we do that. |
| Everett | And pass it off as if it's a genuine recommendation. That's what we do. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | Latest Christopher Ward, C65 Dune GMT. This, your web Weplink is calling this the brilliant first version of the, or the brilliant, the follow-up to the brilliant first version of the Traveler's Watch, and I think I gotta agree. So, the new 65 Dune GMT, 150 meters of water resistance, 38 millimeter case, 11.9 thick, dope for a GMT, 43.7 lug-to-lug. This is money. And somehow Christopher Ward in that small package has found a way to like create this depth in the dial that is, I know it's an illusion, but it's beautiful. This, the top down on this looks like you're looking deep into the watch. Like it should be a 15, 16 millimeter watch with, you know, five millimeters of space between the crystal and the hands even. The depth is, I don't actually even know how much of an illusion it is. I don't know how they're doing it. We've talked about Christopher Ward's Watch Spanx, the light catcher case. Essentially what Christopher Ward does is they move the movement lower to the case lower relative to the case as compared relative to other watches. So we're working in a 12 millimeter space here. So how are you going to capture any more than maybe two millimeters? Well, so, and they do that, they do that with, like I said, they, they seat that case that they see that movement really low in the case, which allows them to build up. So, you know, one of the things that I've found with Christopher Wards is you get, and especially in a watch like this, you've got a relatively high stack. And so they, they have this dial that sits lower in the case than many similar watches and they build up there. So they got this huge stack. They've got, their hands are spaced really far apart, um, you know, or really high relative to the, to the dial. And then they've used these huge dimensional markers and a chapter ring that tilts up instead of, you know, Rolex has these big gaping rehats. Christopher Ward doesn't do this, but they bring everything up just incrementally. And so you do, you get that. It's not an illusion. It's physical depth of dial. It's really, I don't, I can't think of another brand that does this as well as Christopher Ward. Nobody, nobody is doing this as well as Christopher Ward and it's gorgeous. It's also coming in at 1500 pounds or under on a bracelet 1465 leather 1265 and on canvas 1250. If you're pinching pennies to not get a bracelet on this don't buy this watch at all. Yeah no you need the bracelet. This is gorgeous. It's coming in this beautiful sandy color with a green chapter ring. It's, I'm not even going to call that Fotina on the markers because it's not. It's Fotina, it's Fotina. But not in the way to make it look vintage. They're, they're using that color intentionally to create that dune, sandy texture and feel to this. This thing is, this is a knock it out of the park, Christopher Ward sorcery. You know, I think another thing that Christopher Ward does really well is their, their handsets. They're not the only company that does this, but Christopher Ward tends to use these like gradually curving handsets with this flat, almost concave loom. And I think that also adds to the dimensionality. This is just a really terrific watch. Yeah, nailed it out of the park. I mean, it's just a C65, right? Yeah. Now with the 330, the Selita 330 movement, or yeah, the 330 and just, man, this is good. This is really good. I dig it. Um, I'm going to take it, Andrew. Do it. I'm swooping. So the Alaska project, uh, a watch that I'm fond of one of the prized Speedmaster references. Um, It is sort of like this, one of the things that's special about it is this white dial. It's just an absolutely bone stock, complete lack of pigment white dial. And it's, it, that dial, um, is one of the reasons that watch is so highly revered because it's just like, there's nothing else like it. So, uh, Omega has released new for 2024 is a catalog, non-limited white dialed moonwatch. And it's got a, it's just white though. It's not like a big deal. It's just a white dialed Speedmaster, right? Well, I mean, yes, it is just a white dialed Speedmaster. It's got a few tricks up its sleeve. So, you know, Omega, I think perhaps more than any other company, likes to play on its history. So there's a few things this watch is doing that are pretty special. So one, the white dial is meant Uh, in this context, or at least ostensibly is meant to be an homage to the white EVA suits for use for space flight. It's also got a, the Speedmaster on this thing is, is written in red, which is a reference to the red striping on NASA EVA suits. That's pretty, that's pretty fun, but also an homage to the Alaska project because This is sort of an homage to the Alaska project. It's got a dot over 90 on the bezel. If you, if you want to, if you want to rabbit hole Google dot over 90, if you know what I'm talking about, if you know, you know, if you don't know Google dot over 90, if you want to figure out how to spend too much money for something stupid, um, Yeah. Come on. It's a lacquer dial. How are you not even bothering to mention that? Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Yes. Fully lacquer dial, which I think is the first lacquer treatment that Omega's ever used on a Speedmaster dial. And, and I did read that somewhere. It occurs to me that it's almost impossible that that's true, but I believe it's true. I'm not, I'm not a Speedmaster connoisseur. Like some are. Yeah. We'll find like a obscure reference. I'm sure that they made 12 of 13, you know, for luck. Uh, this is, this is exactly as cool as it, as we want it to be. Right. This is a, a neat release with all the callbacks and some new shit going on because this lacquer dial is, it is clean. So this is a five piece, a three link bracelet. It's a 42 millimeter Speedmaster Pro with our twisted lugs, just like you'd expect. I mean, there's not a ton going on here. You've got a great stepped dial. You've got black markers. Um, really what more to say? This is, this is a cool watch. 50 meters of water resistance. Yeah it's a speedy. There's no water in space. It's a speedy. $8,100 bucks on the bracelet. Yeah a sticker of $8,100 which I mean that's how much Speedmasters are today. It's a yeah. It's a seller's market. Yeah. So this was actually this was actually sort of teased by Daniel Craig late last year and I think people I've been speculating about what this was going to be. It's pretty cool that this is just going to be, Hey, this is a new Speedmaster that you can get. Yeah, it'll, I think the, um, I think it'll be a short lived hype because they'll release another one in two and a half weeks. Yeah. Well, you know, Omega's learned something in the last couple of years, I think about about releasing colors of the Speedmaster. At least they haven't done a blue. It's probably coming. Andrew, what's next? Next up for me, I read an interesting opinion article by Buffy Acacia. Acacia? Acacia? |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | That's how I would say that. Has watch size... On Time and Tide. Yeah, On Time and Tide. Has watch size awareness restricted brand creativity. And I read the article and, you know, largely it was like, in summation, watch brands are scared to do things that people aren't going to like. Big shock. Neckbeards don't like things for whatever reason. Not shocking because they have neckbeards. But I think What I drew from this article as I'm reading through it, I was like, there's like this, the, the access to information and to photographs and, and people like us who just like sit and talk about watches and, and, and opine for, for those who will listen. Um, I don't think it's just watch size. Um, I, it got me thinking about like CAD drawings and how quickly a brand can, can jam out a design. And I started thinking about Vero when we went up to their shop and they were like, Oh yeah, this is our Tuesday prototype. And this dude just like plug something into CAD punches out a watch that afternoon. And I was like, well, this is what I don't like. And, and I think I disagree with restricting creativity. I think it has honed creativity to a point that people are, almost scared of being creative because we can be so perfect. Because you can, you can 3d print 150 prototypes before you send a prototype out to actually get put in metal. I mean, how many, how many prototypes did you go through with the 11 Atmos? Not, not prototype, actual creation, prototype drawings. How many versions did you draw? Not just by hand, but then into CAD and then into, that ilk before you got to a point where you were willing to push the red button for production? Well, yeah. I mean, there were obviously iterations and design work. I think we knew kind of the shape of things pretty early. But you know, that's all relative. And then once you get engineering, that kind of changes. So Um, I would say between that, like first concept, which we've, we've shared with the world and, and production, we had, we had one physical prototype, a like sort of iteration prototype on top of that, the final version. So that's three. And then, you know, maybe like another two or three, like relatively substantial changes along the way. So eight, something like that. What about the like 20 plus iterations of just drawings? Oh, well, there were frankly wasn't that many. I mean, you know, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to, to, Like if we're changing the size of the hands in relation to one another, is that a separate duration? I don't know. I mean, but you know, it took 18 months, right? So I mean, there's a lot of changes that happened in that type in that time, you know, but the actual case didn't really change that much. I would say the biggest change was in between the prototype and the actual production watch was the size of the crown, but outside of that, it didn't change that much. Yeah, I mean, lots of changes to the details, but not that much of the case. I don't mean to be killing your point. No, you're not killing my point. I think you're reinforcing my point in that it was this endeavor to perfection to other people's standards, not just to your own, but to other people's standards that it took 18 months. That's right, yeah. And that article kind of just started churning the wheels on like, I, I love the creativity we're seeing in the watch industry right now. And I think of, um, I think a studio underdog who he's obviously make making something that he wants people to like. Yeah. But I don't think he's restricted by the, um, by that same desire to like, I need to sell watches. I need this to be a hit. He's he. I don't think he's independent of that perfectionist mentality. But I want to see more of that, like true creative, like we're going to do this cool thing. And because it's cool, people are going to like it, not because it fits the the size standards of what we want, not because, you know, you look at seven years ago, watches are sitting at like 45, 48 millimeter watches and have been steadily reducing and we're, we're going to bottom out and then they're going to grow again, right? This is a pendulum. And because of our access to information or access to pictures and, and, and all of that brands are trying to chase this trend by and large. And it's not, it, it's not a slight, brands are conforming to what they see the market wanting. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | I just want to see more studio underdog. We're like, this is the thing that I really like. And I think Arkin's another really good example. Yeah. He's conforming to size, but his creativity, like he's, he's making things that just don't exist elsewhere. And you know, one of the criticisms of Ken's first watch was like, so weird. Uh, you know, Andrew, and so, so first I'll just say apologies if I take more credit than you're comfortable giving me, but when I conceived of this show in probably the first early parts of 2016, um, there were a few sort of goals that I had in terms of, and I say goals that made it makes it sound like it was more structured than it was, but, you know, thinking about what would that show be, you know, the first was, a concentration on affordable watches because at the time it felt like the media around affordable watches was really limited. But it didn't feel like it was. It was objectively not there. Yeah. There you go. But the other thing was this focus on watches that were good. And by that I mean you know that that fit like in a world that at the time felt kind of remote. You know you'd go to Macy's or whatever And you'd say, oh, let me see that bullet and you put it on and it'd be like, it's like 43 millimeters. And you're like, fuck this. And 200 grams. That's right. And so, you know, and that is reflected in the name of our show, right? 40 and 20 was at the time that you and I together came up with that. It was like, oh, this is cool because this is what we're trying to do with the show. And it symbolized a thing that existed in the world, but that was kind of like rare, right? Like it just felt like it was hard to find at that time. It was hard to find affordable watches that were 40 and 20. Right. Um, but, but when we found them, it was like, Oh, this is cool. Right. And so not to say that, that watches have to be 40 and 20 to be cool. Um, but like, those are the watches that we want to talk about. We're going to find these watches that are hard to find. Well, In the, in the, you know, roughly. Intervening years. Yeah. Eight years since this concept, you know, not that we've been recording for eight years, but fuck we're. We've been trying. We're pretty close. We'll be at six years in just a few months here. Um, in the roughly eight years since that concept kind of was floated between us, um, that's become the norm, right? And that's what, that's what the writer here is talking about. Like we're at this place where. almost brands are like nervous to stray outside of that, which is such a weird frame shift, right? Which is not to say that we did it. No, we're responsible for it. Not to say we had anything to do with it. But we were part of that group of people that were like, we want more of this. And that's now become the prevailing trend. One of my buddies this week asked me, he's like, look, I want to get a watch. Like, I love the sub. I want a sub. And objectively, I understand why I want a sub. It's a good investment. It's a psychotic watch. It's got a good history to it. All the things. But I'm not going to, I'm not going to spend that kind of money on that. So what can I do under a thousand dollars that if a watch person sees me wearing it, is going to recognize it, and know that I made a thoughtful purchase. I was like, buddy. And so when does his Christopher Ward get here? I was like, I'm not sure you're prepared for my answer. And I'm a buckle in. And I'm not sure I'm prepared to give you an answer right now. Anticipate my response in email form. It's like a fuck. So he texted me the following day. He's like, you got any recommendations? And I had like 25 segmented out recommendations. Like these are your what you can get today. Brand new in box. Mechanical or automatic. Quartz, solar. These are the used watches that you can get, not brand new in box. Mechanical, automatic, quartz. solar and then like these are the things like like i wanted to highlight a few of the things on the list like these are these are the reasons that i recommend these specific watches but the bottom line is get what you want to wear because if you if you drop a grand and you don't want to wear it because you don't like it because i recommended it to you like you're an asshole buy the thing you want but going through that list i like i poured over all of our like all of our episodes, cause there's so much stuff that just kind of revolving doors. Like it was hot for six months, for three months it was hot cause it came out and then it let it like Hallios was on, was on a lot of our lists and we haven't talked about Hallios in months and it's because Hallios just is, is slow to market. And then when Hallios hits, it hits because he's doing his thing. Orion doing his thing. He wanted a diver. That was like, so he's getting a C60, right? That's what I'm really pushing him towards. I'm like, get a used Trident. Or a Manta Ocean King. Yeah. Get a used Ocean King. I'm trying to get him to push his budget up by like 300 bucks. Like give me $1,300 and I'll give you the world. Give me a thousand dollars and you have a lot of choices. Get a used Ocean King for a thousand bucks. Yeah, but you gotta wait. He's not exactly, He wants to buy a watch. So you can buy a C60 for a thousand bucks even today, right now. On a strap. Not on a bracelet? Mm-mm. How much is it on a bracelet? It's like 12. Oh. And then you gotta pay the 200 bucks customs. Okay, fine. So now you're into it a little more. But, that to say, it's still about what you want. It's still about what people want. And yeah, you're gonna have people like me and Everett bitching about the size. I wish it was a little bit smaller. And we do that. We fucking do that. The 13's pretty thick. We do that. We are guilty of it as every other outlet. But we do it for you, okay? And for you. We're doing this for you. I want brands to be like Studio Underdog and not give a fuck. I want them to be like Christopher Ward and not give a fuck. Because to do a watch that you can't read just because it's a Venturine, That's kind of baller. Yeah, that's right. Like be more baller. A fucking minute repeater that doesn't tell the time. It sounds the time. Andrew, we segued there and it's okay. I loved it. That was a fantastic segue. I'm going through our list. Is there anything that we really need to get to? That we must talk about? I just deleted two tabs. We both had that sartina on here. And you know, it's, it's whatever. Okay. So it was interesting. Yeah. DS Action, GMT, Powermatic 80, Certina. It's fine. What I really liked about it was I liked the green. The green's beautiful. It's too chunky. Listen, it is. And it's, it's not a, it's 13, eight thick. It's a 200 meter watch. It's cool. 43 GMT. Yeah. It's fine. It's, it's a pretty watch. Um, Nomos has two new colorways. The red's really neat in the club campus. Non-stop red, endless blue, both for the summer grad collection. These are $1,500. And red and blue are not the way I would describe either of these colors. Yeah, the red's kind of brick. It's orange and tealy. And the blue is a teal. These are very Nomos colors. If you didn't know better, you might see these and be like, oh yeah, those are club campuses. They just look like club That's new? They're both available in the 36 and the 38. It's like Zodiac announcing a new color. I think we're good. I think we're good. I'm not missing anything. Oh, new... Oh, the new Seiko's. 62 moss. Better dimensions. This is 62 moss. We've got a better movement. We've got 100 meters of extra water resistance. and slightly improved dimensions. This is an iterative 62 Moss release. We've got blue, black, and this like charcoal gray that's really pretty. Um, there are 1400 bucks and they have 72 hours instead of 70 hours of power reserve. That makes it sound like you can take a long weekend and not worry about winding your watch. Oh, these just one more second here. We're not in a hurry. We're on, We're on our time. We are on our time. Uh, these are actually really good. Yeah. Seiko did a good thing here. They've still got the same shitty clasp. Um, but we've got a better movement. We've got a hundred extra meters of water resistance. Like this all of a sudden is like for under 1500 bucks, like maybe the best dive watch on earth. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, this is like a serious, dive watch and it's the I mean it was before also and that's the that's the thing with Seiko divers is that they're depending on who you talk to each and every one could be objectively the best dive watch you can buy for the money but you can also buy a divex with a shroud for 127 bucks if you're willing to get somebody to fine import it for you and that's you know James Stacy is pushing, uh, calling these the 24 Moss. I think he had dubbed the last ones, the 20 Moss. I don't know if that's a real thing or not. I'm happy if you'd like to use that. Um, but yeah, the, the, the, the 62 Moss has been, the SPV has been iteratively improved and it's, it's a good improvement. I don't like the, uh, integration of the end link into the case. No, I think it's great. That is classic 62 Moss and I think it's great. |
| Andrew | I still, I think, I mean, I'm here for it. |
| Everett | It's a dimensionally milled end link, which is a very rare thing. Seiko does it really well. Um, I'm cool with it. If they feel like it. Yeah. These are, these are great by the way. Oh, oh, oh. And the date, they moved the date from three o'clock to four 30, which Mike is going to throw a fit about that. Mike can suck a dick, man. This is so good. He's going to he's going to throw a tantrum. He might be tantruming right now. It's so good. So before. It's going to keep him up at night. Before they had the date at 3. And at some point Seiko added like a loom bit to the 3 o'clock date to make it comply with ISO. They've just tucked it in a circle. I love 4.30 date windows. At 4.30. Because I hate I hate like sub dials and date windows, cutting into movements. Like I'm a, I, I would, I prefer no date. That's kind of my jam cause I don't like it or none of the movements cutting into tiles. Uh, I hate that. I'm, I'm all about no date. If you're going to put a date on it, four thirties where I want it or at the six o'clock four thirty or six. Those were my two preferred date placements. The charcoal on this is beautiful, but it's photina so it sucks. Uh, you, so you got black and blue. It's, Fotina. Yeah, it sucks. Uh, it doesn't suck. I don't hate it. It's also got guilt. Yeah. Which you would expect. It's, it's Fotina, but it's guilt. So it kind of works. All right. That's all I have to say about that. |
| Andrew | That's all I have to say about that. Thanks Forrest. |
| Everett | Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, other things. What do you got? Oh, I have another thing. It's an interesting other thing. It's kind of, but it's good. Cause my, my other thing's not, not at all. It's actually something that we've kind of talked about before. So, I don't know, a year, maybe two years ago, you talked about quarter sheets on the show. And I have some quarter sheets, I have some off-brand silpats, because I don't want to buy counterfeits, and they're holding up great. You have silpats for your quarter sheets? |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | Oh, well, cool. I've only got half sheet silpats. Half sheet is yay. Quarter sheet's yay. Nope. Half sheet. Half sheet. Quarter sheet. Eighth sheet. Okay. Half sheets are big motherfuckers. Full sheets are big motherfuckers. They're way big motherfuckers. Like you can't fit them in your oven. I think your silpats are half sheet. They might be. Either way, what I'm talking about today... Oh, actually I am talking about half sheets. Sorry. So I have half sheets for my, I've, I've, we're talking about if you're like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? We're talking about aluminum cake pans, baking sheets, baking sheets, and they're aluminum. They cool off super quick. So you can like pull them out of the oven, set them on your counter for 90 seconds. Then you can handle them. They patina really nicely. They're cheap. They're really cheap because of their commercial gate grade quality or kitchen stuff. So they work until they don't, and then you throw them out because you don't care. Frank asked me a few months ago, he's like, what do you use for a cutting board? And I was like, you're not gonna super like my answer. It's an all white, like piece of- Nylon. Yeah, nylon, like piece of plastic. That you get at the restaurant supply store. You get it for like nine bucks. Yes, I use the same shit. I know that you're going for an aesthetic, but I use like, commercial grade shit in my kitchen, because that's where not only is it cheap, but that's like where the cooking is done. So you can do like, you can do you, man, you can get your $500 butcher block. That's up to you. That's not where I'm at. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | Or get something that's going to work really well. It's going to cost next to nothing. And then when you have to replace it, you, you have exactly no heartache because it's a disposable item. Anyway, what I'm talking about today, eighth sheets. I was at the restaurant supply store. I was just kind of like perusing. I saw him and I was like, these are $2.50. And just for context, so this is a, this is a aluminum baking pan, just like, just like a half sheet, same rim depth, but it's roughly the size of what, what would you say, a dinner plate? It's, it's probably, 25% larger than a VHS case. Yeah. And I sat and I was like, I think I could get some use out of a couple of those. I use them for resting stakes. These are my most used pants. Like I'm going to buy more. I've, I like will eat dinner off of them. Yep. They're a perfect size for, cause very rarely do you need a full sheet. None of us need a full sheet. We don't have an oven. Yeah, the oven won't fit it. None of us need a full pan baking sheet going in. Very, very rarely. There's things that require it. You know, if you're gonna do a bunch of stuff, it fits. These are getting so much use. Like, oh, I need to throw some, some, just something into the oven. I don't need a quarter sheet worth of it. and which takes up space in my sink because nothing goes directly from use into the dishwasher or washing, takes up a ton of space in your sink. This takes up a dinner plate size amount in your sink. They cost $2.50. They patina just like the other aluminum baking sheets that you have. I'm slowly but surely replacing all of my baking sheets with these commercial grade dimensional baking sheets because they nest nicely together. They have the same lips, so they all press together really nicely. They hit, they take up less space. They're uniform. It doesn't matter where you buy them from. And it also doesn't matter where you buy them from because they're cheap. They come in 24 packs if you want, or you can buy them individually. The 24 packs, like 60 bucks. And yeah, dude, I, I love these. I'm going to start like phasing out plates for these in my house. Cause they're dishwasher safe. You just drop them right in. Everything scrapes off because they're aluminum baking sheets. They clean up really nicely. If you want them to keep their shine, don't put them in the oven cause they do patina and burn and crust. But the, like the patina on them is beautiful. Yeah. So this is my other thing. $2.50 for eighth sheets. I have, I have probably four half sheets. three quarter sheets and three eighth sheets. And they all fit in, I don't know, that thing's got to be eight. Six inches? Like that amount? Maybe. Yeah, I think the drawer, I think the cupboard that we put these in is eight inches just to the right. And they all fit in there and they just like, they just fit. Like, you know, a lot of people like collect baking sheets and they'll have like 15 or five or whatever. And none of them fit together. They don't fit together. They don't nest. Like I threw away all of our baking sheets probably four years ago and switched to these maybe three years ago. And my wife the other day, this has been six months ago, was like, this is so much better. Why did we, and I was like, I'm telling you, man, this is the shit. That's why kitchens use this. If a professional kitchen's using it, you should also. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Great, great, great pick. Love these. We, we went so far, uh, a gift that we got for, uh, a family friend, like a group got for a family friend. They, they did like the Oprah version of our favorite things. So everyone contributed like their favorite things. And Sam and I were kind of like, Sam was kind of like, what do we do? What do we do? And I was like, eighth sheets, man. Yeah. Get them, get them four. And you can use them as a plate too, right? In fact, like that's a sort of, if you've been to the Pacific Northwest recently, you've maybe ate off of one of these. The photograph on the kitchen supply website that I'm going to provide in a link. It's a sandwich and fries. Yeah. Is it used as a plate? Uh, that's a great. It reminds me of my childhood when I, like my dad was super poor cause he was divorced and paying child support and for two houses and the whole thing we had, we ate off paper plates with like the wicker basket underneath. I love that. That's what it reminds me of. I'm just going to start getting the pull and serve paper to put on them. Because my kids don't deserve plates. They're just animals. Yeah, that's right. Kids don't need plates. But they can have a sheet with a piece of paper. Way less dishes. It keeps it clean, keeps it shiny. That's a great other thing, Andrew. Thank you. Yeah. I've got another thing. It's maybe less universal. It's pretty specific. It's pretty specific. The thing about eighth sheets is like everybody I know would love those. Exactly nobody would not have a use for them. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so. You can't microwave them. Don't do that. That's the limitation. So apologies in advance. Feel free to turn the show off right now. I'm about to talk about fountain pen ink. Fountain pen ink. Yeah, you know, whatever. So. The color changes depending on the length of time in the paper. You aged ink. Oh my gosh. Are you going to start signing really important documents with aged ink? Uh, so, so. Oh, that's a baller. I, I'm in, I'm in a fountain pen, fountain pen, uh, place right now. I'm, I'm procuring fountain pens and I'm loving fountain pens and I'm using them. Uh, one of the fun things about fountain pens, it's like NATO straps, right? Like, Oh yeah, I can get this new ink. I got a new ink. Tens of thousands of options. Yes. So most, most ink is pretty straightforward. Kind of like what you see is what you get. This is a beautiful blue. Uh, this is a beautiful green, whatever, right? This is the best black it's ink. Okay. It's the thing that you put in the pen to write with. Yeah. Like you buy pens based off of the color of ink that it will uniformly produce. It, That's, that's right. That's right. And, and so fountain pen ink is no... Excrete, not produce. Excrete. Fountain pen ink is no different, right? By and large, you buy this ink, it's blue, it's whatever. This is really nice. It flows well, blah, blah, blah. You should get this ink because it works well. But what I found myself more interested in is inks that have like particular character. This, something about writing with a fountain pen that's special. Just in and of itself, this is special, right? It's fun to hold. It looks neat. Um, but you look super fancy. It's fancy, right? But there's this like being given the option to put whatever you want at any given moment in these fountain pens to write with, uh, really opens up a world of possibilities. And so what I've, found is that as I, is that I'm looking at ink, I'm not interested in, oh, that's a beautiful blue. I'm like, I want something that's got like some incredible character, right? Cause like I can put anything in this pen. I can put. Do you have to empty the reservoir before you. Yeah. Not only do you need to. And then clean. You've got to clean it. Yeah. Or else you're going to contaminate. Um, Which is maybe not dangerous, right? But it doesn't make sense. Anyway, there is eight zillion inks that you can buy. And that's actually really close to the actual number. Have you gotten a red yet? I do. I have a couple reds. I was just looking for a gray recently, and I ran across this line of Sailor inks Sailor Pen is a Japanese company. They make pens but in my mind what they do better than maybe any other company on earth is inks. Sailor makes, they've got a bunch of different lines of inks. A lot of them are really really special. I found this line, it's actually, uh, they've released it in two different sets and it's called, I'm, I'm, I don't speak Japanese nor do I know Japanese pronunciations. I think it's called Yurimeku. I concur and I accept your pronunciation. And it's been released in two different, so, uh, these are like lines, they do drops, which are a number of different colors and these inks are all I think the right word for them, Andrew, is vague. Ooh, yes. They're all vague. So what these inks share in common is they're all sort of soft hues. They lean towards earthy. We're not talking about jewel tones. They're earthy, but they're all Each of them is multi-chromatic, which is to say they have different colors depending on the amount of ink on the paper, depending on the paper you use. The absorption of the paper. Depending on the size of the nib you use. And they range from, you know, brown and green and purple and gray. Vaguely. Vaguely. but each of these inks has bits of multiples of those. So I have, I've gotten into two of these at this point. One of them is called Itazura, the Yurimeku Itazura, which is this like gray. It's the ocean, it's sea foam. Green purple, yes. It's beautiful. The the Yurimeku Itazura is it's fucking crazy, man. I love. I love writing with it. And if you look at the bottle, like if you were to buy this like nail polish, you would probably be disappointed because it is not at all like the way it presents on the bottle. None of these are the way they present on the bottle. The other one that I've gotten into and I've just ordered this is called Suki, S-U-K-I, Gokoro, G-O-K-O-R-O. And this is, I think the best way to describe this is teal that turns brown. So here's a picture, Andrew. So in a light shade. Oh, so it's like as you're, oh, what? On the lighter shade, it is this like minty, gray teal. Sagey. Yeah. And then as soon as it goes dark, it's brown. And so as you're writing, you imagine if you're writing with like a medium nib, it's going to lay down primarily brown, but with these like. This is a purple glue stick. It goes down purple so you know where it hit and then it, and then it changes entirely. It's crazy. And when you, when you write with these things, it, it just, it's like nothing else you can write with. There's no, Uh, what, what's your favorite pen? The clicky, the pilot, the pilot or the seven or whatever, right? The G2. That's right. The G2. There's no G2 on earth that does anything like this. I mean you, it's crazy. It's so much fun. The only pens that do this are the ones that have the eight little clickers on the top that actually changed the stem that comes out. It's, it's really, really fun. Anyway, uh, if you're into fountain pens or, or, or if you're into fountain pens, you already know, but maybe you like have a fountain pen and you've just, you're like, check out the Sailor Yurimeku inks because there's a dozen of them, maybe, maybe 15 of these that have dropped. And for me, this is like, this is the hobby. This is the hobby. Buying fancy pens is nice, but this is the hobby, right? Cause actually once you write the thing, no one knows or cares what you wrote it with. What they care is what it looks like. And the, like, if you want to write someone a letter, say you want to write your wife a letter, how much cooler is it to write it with? Cause they're going to, Oh, this is beautiful. And what? Your penmanship is really the big impact there. Sure. But even if you got shitty penmanship, at least your ink can look nice. Anyway, that's, this was like a thing for me. On like papyrus. It just makes me want to do it. It's like, fuck yeah, this is cool. Anyway, Sailor Europe Echo Wings. Check them out. Most things make me want to do it. These are beautiful inks. That's all I got. Andrew, here we are an hour and 22 minutes in. Shimmaker. Once again. Anything else you want to add before we? |
| Andrew | I'm out of things. |
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