Episode 264 - Five Watches, Ultimate Edition

Published on Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:47:49 -0800

Synopsis

Andrew and Everett engage in a fun thought experiment where they build their ultimate 5-watch collection with an unlimited budget. Andrew focuses on grand complications like minute repeaters and perpetual calendars combined with iconic, familiar pieces like the Rolex Submariner. Everett opts for a mix of vintage and modern watches, including dress watches like the Patek Philippe Calatrava and special limited editions. Their selections highlight their different collecting philosophies, with Andrew gravitating towards the newest and coolest, while Everett values niche and sentimental aspects. The episode provides an entertaining glimpse into their watch preferences and dreams if money were no object.

They also discuss Andrew's gnocchi dish, Everett's Vans Ultra Range hiking shoes, and end with a humorous anecdote about ChatGPT misidentifying their names.

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Andrew Farrago	Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420 The Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew Farrago and my good friend Everett See. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett See	That was hard to do. I'm doing all right, man. Yeah, the auspicious beginnings for the Blazers, it's been a little rough to watch. That's typical. Yeah, well, it's maybe a little different this year, you know. It's hard, yeah. With Dame Dollar going to the Bucks, you know, we've got probably one of the most exciting young players in the NBA, but he's got a bone bruise. It's just like we knew it was going to be a slow start, but it's been slow differently than I expected it to be slow.
Andrew Farrago	Hey, there's a lot of chemistry that needs to get built. Hey, listen, Portland's like constantly in a rebuilding.
Everett See	Um, basically since 1995, when I started to give a shit about basketball, college football, rebuilding college football, still phenomenal, very pumped about the way this season. So in the college football play college football playoff era, this is the latest in the season we've ever, ever had five unbeaten teams, unbeaten power five teams, which is to say we've got one more than fits into a playoff very late in the season. Excuse me. And so that's been that's been a little weird to watch. This is Tuesday. So the latest CFB ranking came out today and Washington is still five, which I'm, I'm sorry if you were an FSU fan, but it makes zero sense why FSU is ranked above Oregon or excuse me, Washington. And so that makes sense why they're ranked above us. Yes. Yes. Uh, but why they're ranked against Washington above Washington. So anyway, it's been fun for sports is fun right now. It is really fun even with Portland. So that makes me happy. That makes me happy. This is the time of year where I'm, I'm, I'm fulfilled even though my favorite, the Mariners are no longer, there's some big opportunities in college football in the next couple of weeks.
Andrew Farrago	Some big stuff. Cause in all likelihood we'll see an Oregon Washington rematch.
Everett See	Well, but we've still got Oregon state that could play spoiler. Yeah. I mean there's some stuff that, so the pack 12, R.I.P. R.I.P. This is our last year of Pac-12 before we have our sort of extended Big Ten.
Andrew Farrago	And can you let's let's think about what the Big Ten has what next year's Big Ten looks like in the way of the top 25 rankings. Well you've got 12 of the top 25 or Big Ten teams next year's Big Ten teams. That's going to that I think I think this move changes the power dynamic away from the SEC into the Big Ten?
Everett See	It depends on, it depends on, you know, what Oregon, Washington, Michigan, Ohio State do next year. But yeah, I think you're not wrong. And watching, watching Michigan and Penn State play this weekend. Yeah. I mean, really different styles of football from Oregon and Washington, you know, borderline opposite. But yeah, no, I think, I think you're right. I think there is a power shift here. It's going to be. Uh, but we don't talk about football on this show. In fact, I bet that there's a incredibly large segment of the people who listen to the show that would like for nothing better than for us to stop talking about football.
Andrew Farrago	Well, I'm sorry, because this week's episode is all about the hunt for the Heisman.
Everett See	Uh, no, Andrew, it's not. This week we're talking about watches.
Andrew Farrago	Weird. I wasn't prepared for that.
Everett See	We're talking about watches and we're going to do something different than we've ever done before. I think we've, we've flirted with the idea in the past in kind of nuanced ways, but we have completely unshackled ourselves for one week and one week only. We are doing a five watches for... Unlimited monies. And not just unlimited monies, but we've even gone so far as to rocket boost the bottom end. So you will find, you will hear about no watches today that you will ever be able to buy. Correct. Which is not to say you maybe could,
Andrew Farrago	You know, there's a few... And if you could, and you're not supporting us on Patreon, you're doing it wrong.
Everett See	There's a few people who listen to this show who I know could, theoretically, ostensibly, get some of these watches. And at least one of mine, at least one of mine is in the realm of possibility for normal people. With that said, we are picking a five watch collection, no holds barred. You have all of the resources and leverage at your Leisure, get a watch. In fact, get five of them. Get five of them. Justify your picks.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah. So when I went in, when I, you pitched this idea to me and I was kind of like, I wasn't really sure how to take it.
Everett See	Well credit where credit's due. This is actually, this is actually a show pitch given to us by Evan Caspar.
Andrew Farrago	Okay. So it wasn't you. So Evan gets the credit for this episode. This was kind of a hard exercise for me because this is a realm that I spend very little time giving a shit about because it's so unrealistic. And I thought about for me, like my favorites, like the things that are just unobtainium. And then I was like, no, that's not it. That's not the purpose of this exercise because it's not money is no object for me. It's money is no object in this exercise. So I wanted to build a collection. A group of watches that together make sense to create a well-rounded and thoughtfully curated mountain of money. So my mind went immediately to kind of understated grand complications. Like the coolest shit on the planet that without knowing You don't care. Where was your head at?
Everett See	Yeah, you know, I think I thought about it a little bit more, maybe a little bit less holistically than you did. I still wanted to have a rounded collection. And so within that, I identified the watches that I wanted to have. And by the watches, I mean the categories I wanted to have. I knew one thing I wanted to have, for instance, was a dress watch. And not just like, oh, I've got a Saab as my dress watch. Like, no, I wanted to have the ultimate dress watch. And then I wanted to have the ultimate daily driver. And so I I really started there. Like, what are the categories I wanted to fill? And so I picked categories. And then from there, the categories, you know, were refined or shifted and they were open enough at the beginning that I had some room to play. But I gotta admit, from there, the task was finding really incredible, cool shit. I wanted to have a blend of vintage and newer items. I wanted to have a blend of classy and wearable and like, oh my God, holy cow. Within the collection, I wanted to still be impressive. I did set a floor for myself of $30,000, which is bizarre. And I had one category that I didn't think I was going to be able to get over 30, but I did at the end of the day. Spoiler alert, I did. And we can talk about that more when I talk about that watch. But, you know, like challenging myself to find something special, because a lot of the watches we're going to talk about today are in and of themselves special, but also pedestrian to the extent that, you know, you're just spending money. So, so doing the thing, spending the money, but also figuring out a way to be the best. Like I'm not only am I the richest, but I'm also the best. That's kind of where my head was at. I'm better than you are because I'm better.
Andrew Farrago	Like familiar, but just up a notch.
Everett See	Do you, so don't answer the question yet if you did, but did you, get an estimate for your collection value?
Andrew Farrago	Yeah, let me look. I've done the math in my head and I'm there.
Everett See	So I like... If you've called your CPA.
Andrew Farrago	I'll kick it off. So I was kind of of a similar mentality. I wanted to fill really specific roles in the collection. But I wanted to have things that were familiar, that they weren't, you know, I, my first I was like, Oh, I'll go reshard meal, all five. And then I look at them. I'm like, I just hate all of these. Oh yeah. Every single one. So I'm not going to spend $5 million.
Everett See	I, I, I Googled reshard meal. And then I immediately, I was like, Nope.
Andrew Farrago	I closed the tab. I didn't even like open a new one. I just opened a new tab to re Google.
Everett See	Spoiler alert, there will be no Richard Meals today.
Andrew Farrago	So my first pick in the mind of things that kind of make sense and look familiar, but take it up a notch in craftsmanship, technology, and cool factor is the Lunga Zitework Minute Repeater in Platinum. Yeah, this is a cool watch. So this is not a familiar looking watch, right? This is a jumping hours, minute repeater, and it looks like maybe one of the original wrist watches because it's also big. It's 44.2 millimeters made out of platinum alligator leather strap. And, and this watch is, Oh, I'm eligible for $20 off. Whoa. Is.
Everett See	It's amazing that this is on Joma.
Andrew Farrago	Right? Is gorgeous. Just the most beautifully decorated exhibition case back and kind of a without an appreciation of what you're looking at. kind of a lame dial face. Hmm. I don't, it is, it's an analog digital dial with a big 60 second sub dial. It's kind of quirky. Look, it's small seconds. Yeah. Small sec, but it's not small. Yeah. It's 30% of the dial. Big seconds.
Everett See	Uh, and it is jumbo small seconds.
Andrew Farrago	gorgeous if you know what you're looking at, if you know the craftsmanship that goes into this. And then I wish with minute repeaters they would have an audio clip of the chimes when you're looking to buy this watch.
Everett See	Yeah, that should be that should be like mandatory.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah.
Everett See	If you're going to sell a watch that's this much.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah. And for the record, This is on, it's 30% off on Joma right now for $327,000. But this is, this is my first pick. This is where I started.
Everett See	And I will say you can get these for a little bit less than that.
Andrew Farrago	But they're used. I went, I wanted to go brand new in box for your baller collection because you shouldn't have to have anybody else's wrist cheese on your watch.
Everett See	And right, what's the difference between... $327,000 and $275,000. What's the difference, right?
Andrew Farrago	Yeah, a small house. A bungalow in Puerto Vallarta.
Everett See	You know, the link you sent actually doesn't do this watch justice. It doesn't. Because it's got a quality control sticker on the front of it. But this watch is absolutely stunning.
Andrew Farrago	It is straight baller and it's jumping hours. It's all the cool technologies packed into this kind of big watch, but this is the baller, right? This is the watch that you, it's not a dress watch, but you're certainly going to wear it as one because the moment it starts chiming and you see those hours jump, that's a dress watch. That's tops and tails dress watch because your watches, you know, more than a quarter million dollars. So that's where I started. That was my first pick. And I was like, okay, where do we go from here?
Everett See	Yes. So what do you call it? What are you calling this category? Just baller? This is my dress watch.
Andrew Farrago	Okay. Oh, this is your dress watch. Interesting. This is my dress watch. It's not a dress watch. It's not. Yeah. But this is it. This is what's filling that role. Okay. So then I was like, okay, well, I want the coolest technology available. And I want cool material. Like, if I can find those two things in conjunction with one another, that's what I want. So, my next, I went with a precious metal in the way of the Patek Philippe 5740 Perpetual Calendar with a moon phase in white gold. This is a little bit cheaper. This is just $151,000. What got me excited about this is this is the, this is it, right? This is an iconic watch shape. This watch case and design is fairly pedestrian, right? I've never seen one in the wild, but there are people who float in circles that these pop up in the wild with great regularity. This case shape. But not... It's a Nautilus, right? Right. It's a Nautilus. Yeah, yeah. But with the perpetual calendar, with the moon phase, and in white gold, this is the thing, right? This is an upgraded Nautilus. Because a Nautilus is unobtainium. This is a grand comp Nautilus, yeah. Yes. And that's what I wanted. I wanted you to have stuff that's recognizable. I wanted me to have stuff that's recognizable and familiar. And if someone gives a shit and they get closer, they'll be like, not just already blown away by the fact that you're wearing it, but then double blown away by the fact that you have the coolest possible version of it. There is arguments to be made that there are perhaps cooler versions of the Nautilus in existence, but not with this type of grand complication, at least in my opinion, with the precious metal composition.
Everett See	Yeah, well, and I believe that this comes with cufflinks. It should, doesn't it? So let's talk a little bit about the watch before we move on. So this is a... It does come with cufflinks. This is... And also in white gold. A Grand Complication Nautilus with a caliber 240Q. 60 meters of water resistance. I don't know what the 240Q is. We'll come back to that.
Andrew Farrago	It's the Grand Complic... It's the Perpetual Calendar Moonface.
Everett See	It's a perpetual calendar moon phase, right? And it's beautiful, right? Yeah, it's gorgeous. Eight and a half millimeter grand complication, 8.42 millimeters thick.
Andrew Farrago	Right? Like how do you get all that shit into a watch?
Everett See	Your Patek, that's how.
Andrew Farrago	There's something there. So what category is this? So this is my grand complication, right? This is a daily driver sport watch. OK. And that's kind of where I held. Right. I wanted grand complications. OK. Have a dress watch. This can fit in that category because it's also it's a fucking Nautilus.
Everett See	It's a fucking Nautilus.
Andrew Farrago	Right.
Everett See	Yeah.
Andrew Farrago	And that's sort of the realm that I hung out in. I was like OK. I want I have a not steel sport watch. Now I want complications that can fit wherever. 60 meters of water resistance is kind of a bummer, but you paid $151,000. So if you get some intrusion, it's not going to be an issue to send it back and get it repaired. So my next step, I kind of rolled with that vein that I was now on. I was like, okay, we're in steel sport watches. And the next place that you need to go when you're in steel sport watches is the AP Royal Oak. Those two watches are hand in hand. I think the most iconic steel sport watches on the market today. If you know anything about watches, you know exactly what they are. You can recognize them at a distance. And they're phenomenal. And there's a reason for it. In my Grand Complication theme, I went with a tourbillon. A flying Turbion, because that's about the coolest technology in watches. Because it's amazing, right? Just to float all of your technology, to fight the forces of gravity. That's cool. So it's an open heart, Turbion in your Royal Oak. This is, this is a Royal Oak, right? It's a 41 millimeter case. All steel. 65 hours of power reserve, the most accurate watch you're gonna wear. Again, 50 meters of water resistance. So we're gonna drop some hints for that this is, there's some things to come, because we don't have a lot of water resistance, true daily driver watches. We have some baller complication movements.
Everett See	Yes, so tell me more about this one.
Andrew Farrago	What's what's more to say? This is a Royal Oak, but it's the coolest possible version that you can have.
Everett See	OK.
Andrew Farrago	It's gorgeous, too. Tell me I'm wrong, right? This is this. So I chose it's I think they call it a blue dial. Yeah, it's got sort of like a. Yeah, it's a blue dial, but it's like kind of a steely blue steel. Yeah, like a blue steel, like heated steel, blued Royal Oak. with your open-worked tourbillon.
Everett See	Have we ever talked about what a tourbillon is in this show?
Andrew Farrago	I can't say for sure. We've talked about a lot.
Everett See	Yeah, and you know what, we've talked about complications. I don't know that we've ever talked about a tourbillon. Because they're kind of prohibitive up to this point. Yeah. Until this episode. And I'll be just, I think we can just both admit that I don't think either one of us totally understands the mechanics about a tourbillon, but essentially a tourbillon. It's sorcery. Is sorcery. It's a way to, it's a way to avoid gravitational and rotational pull.
Andrew Farrago	So they encase and float your escapement mechanism. to prevent the positional effects of your watch movement.
Everett See	And more so than floated, they're constantly rotated in order to preserve isochronism or... Yeah, it's a segue.
Andrew Farrago	Basically, you have a segue in your watch.
Everett See	That's right. Yeah, that's right. It's like a gyroscopic... or even perhaps just even rotational, like.
Andrew Farrago	Just a free floating cage that your shit lives in. But I still, I don't understand.
Everett See	It's like when people are bedridden for long periods of time and they put them in those cages that turn their bodies so they don't get bed sores. It's like that.
Andrew Farrago	I don't understand how you can float something like that and keep it fully engaged all the time.
Everett See	Well. That's the sorcery involved.
Andrew Farrago	I don't either. It's not like ball that fully encases and floats like the movement and then just has like a single thing coming out with the movement on like floating within the watch.
Everett See	I think it's literally just a cage. It's just a cage. It's like a fidget spinner, right? It's like a, a bearing almost, right? You've got a cage that is grasped and the thing, the, the balance and everything within that is, free to move on a separate, on a separate trajectory, not separate trajectories, still the same plane, but. Independent. Independent, that's right.
Andrew Farrago	It's, it's some sorcery that I don't, I don't, it's.
Everett See	There's some good diagrams online of, of what it does that are worth looking at. Again, we're not the people, you guys. If you're listening to us to understand how tourbillons work. What are you doing here? You've made mistakes. Yeah. Mistakes have been made.
Andrew Farrago	Andrew Farago and Everett Seed just do not know.
Everett See	I feel like we must explain that a little bit. Maybe someday. OK.
Andrew Farrago	OK.
Everett See	If you like, we can interrupt my collection. No, no. I want to hear more about your collection. OK. OK. So wait. So wait. Let's just let's just do a quick collection and review. We've got.
Andrew Farrago	The Lange Zeitwerk.
Everett See	The Zeitwerk Minute Repeater.
Andrew Farrago	We've got. In platinum. We have the. Right. That's important. Yeah. You have the Nautilus. Fifty seven. Fifty seven. Forty one G perpetual calendar in white gold. We have now the. A.P. Royal Oak flying tourbillon in steel.
Everett See	And as far as we know, that doesn't actually fly, but we're not. I mean, it's 216 thousand dollars, so it
Andrew Farrago	It could fly. It may fly. Correct. It could. I will not make promises. I'm sure it's not exactly flying off the shelves, but we don't know. What's next? I've never seen one. Oh, I will. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to tangent here. I didn't see many cool watches last week on our L.A. adventure. I saw a couple. I saw Speedy. I saw a world timer and it took us getting all the way to universal when I saw a guy with his hand out holding the lady's hand and I immediately recognized mission to Mars. Moon swatch on his wrist and I was like, that's dope. And as one does, I instinctively checked her wrist. She was wearing the Uranus version of the moon swatch.
Andrew Farrago	I think, so there was two possible options for me. Number one, he was making one of the funniest jokes that has ever been made and she has no idea because she just liked the blue one or she's in on the joke.
Everett See	It's hard to say and she might be in on the joke.
Andrew Farrago	I hope that she's not because it's way funnier. Did she have forearm tattoos? No, but I saw his and hers. Moon swatch. Mars and Uranus. Uh, that was a cool sighting. That was the only like actually cool watch sighting I had in the whole week we were there.
Everett See	You were at Disneyland. This is a different set of priorities.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah, but I saw those are universal. So, but either way, like, and I, you know, I saw plenty of subs and I saw a lot of subs actually, but like nothing, nothing that was like, Oh, that's that. Ooh, ooh, good sighting. Last time we were there, I saw a two-tone Opie and I was like, I want to buy that off of the original owner. Cause it was a dude in like a power scooter who was like clearly ready to kick it. And I was like, man, just follow this guy. That might fall off. He could die on like on route. Like you just don't know what's going to happen. So we have three amazing complications. I have a gaping hole in the way of like a true utility watch. I kind of already have that one picked out. So I wanted to do something that's like, no one but you knows how cool it is. Something kind of pedestrian, but still the coolest fucking thing you can imagine. So my next pick is Daniel Craig's worn on set No time to die. Omega Seamaster. And this is the Fauteinad loom, kind of a black brown bezel Seamaster on mesh. $378,000 at auction. Yeah. It's just Seamaster. Yeah. There's nothing special about the Seamaster except that it's one of the most special Seamasters ever worn. And you're the only one who knows. Anyone who walks by you, like, oh, sweet Seamaster. Like, well, no, this is James Bond's Seamaster. And 75 million people saw it the weekend that it premiered. This is it, right? This is a true utility watch. This is like the, the collection round out of special things. It's one of a kind. One of one, yeah. And is the coolest possible version of this watch for no other reason than that. Somebody on the set department grabbed that Seamaster from the selection that Omega brought and was like, which one does Danny want to wear? That one. Yeah, it's cool. This is my most exciting pick for me.
Everett See	I like it. It's, it's, I like the idea of having something that is special without being obviously special or even, or even detectably special, you know, unless you know, and only you will know that's cool.
Andrew Farrago	So that's my pick. That's the true. Like I got money to burn. It doesn't matter. I want to see master, but I want the, Seamaster.
Everett See	And this is just, and like you said, this is just a Seamaster 300007 edition. Brown. Brown, right? Yeah, I think it's brown. Fotina with brown or perhaps black.
Andrew Farrago	That's it. There's nothing special about it, but everything is special about it. And that's what got me excited. That's the money is no object. True collectors watch. My last pick. And this pick gave you some heartburn. I had no heartburn. Gave you a little bit of heartburn. I'm okay with it. A brand new inbox. There's a pregnant pause there. I want the pregnant pause to exist. It's important. I have some news for you. A brand new inbox. Rolex sub. No date. Right from your AD. Hard stop. Yep. $9,100. You can't find that, but if you've got a purchase history, you can probably get it for $9,100. And here's why I chose this watch. The Rolex Submariner is, and we agreed, the most iconic watch of all time. Unanimously and independently agreed.
Everett See	Yeah, I think it's hard to argue too hard against it.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah, I don't think I don't think there's a reasonable argument against. There's many, there's, there's some arguments, but none, none are enough to like really remove it from the throne. The reason it's such an iconic watch is because it's the watch. It's this phenomenal tool watch that was purposely designed to be and go and do anything that you can do. This watch will outlast you regardless of what you do. You know, we talked about that one that was submerged in the sea off of Australia for God knows how long, was recovered from the rocks and had all kinds of corrosion on it. Bitch is still running. And then was returned to the owner. There are people who exclusively collect these watches. That's their thing is subs. And there's a million different reference numbers. The reason I picked this watch to be a core member of the Money is No Object five watch collection is because you deserve to make those memories with that watch. To have this incorporated into your daily life. To have that thing, this legend, accompanying you from the day it's unwrapped and the stickers come off and accompanying you through everything. You get to make the legacy for that watch. It's not the cool movement. It's not that James Bond wore it. It's your watch. And that's the the excitement and the intrigue of the sub. You know, the marketing materials and all the pictures you see of the sub are all these people doing cool things wearing a sub. Like it's the unofficial official watch of Special Operations Command for the United States military. There's thousands of photographs of operators throughout the world. And you see their sub, you see subs on celebrities, you see subs on normal people, but you get to write the story for this one. And that's why it's an important part of this five watch collection.
Everett See	Yeah. Like it's sort of, uh, uh, you've got a blank canvas that also just happens to be probably the most iconic watch ever made ubiquitous. Uh, but a superfluously crafted and engineered. And you've picked the current model, which is the one that's going to last the longest. The best. It's going to be the best made. Yeah. I don't hate it, Andrew. I don't love it. And the only reason I don't love it is because with all the money in the world.
Andrew Farrago	All these other watches are going to wear you. You're going to wear this watch.
Everett See	Yeah. I think it's hard for me to say that's a bad pick. Because of all the reasons you've said So let's hear oh and I'm at a million dollars you're at a million dollars, okay Yeah, I think I'll just I think I'll just start by saying I'm at almost exactly two times you okay Uh, and I am okay going in a similar order that you did. I think I've already given away one of my categories, but I'm going to start in a different place here. Uh, which is I, my first category, you said you wanted a grand complication, but you also wanted a dress watch, which I think is also kind of a grand complication. I went with just sort of, I wanted one, the category that I said to myself was a GFY watch. And I just wanted one of those. And within that, I didn't really know what I wanted, because I think you and I don't spend a lot of time in this area. We know. But I had the opportunity to try one of these on at watch time a few years ago. And actually, I tried on a very special version of this watch. But the watch I went with was the Chopard LUC All-in-One. And I went, so they've made a couple different iterations of this. This is one of the, I went with the 2018 version. If you don't know anything about this watch, I implore you to look it up, because there's no chance I'm going to do it justice here. They made this both in 18 karat gold and in platinum, and I believe 18 karat rose gold and platinum. And I think that there were 20 of these total, so 10 of each. This is one of the most, if not the most complicated watch Chopard has ever made. It's huge. Yeah, it's a big bitch. It's 46 millimeters, and it's thick too. I don't know how thick, but I'm guessing. 18.5. Okay, I was gonna say I'm guessing 17, but I would have underdone it. And if you don't know what it is, it takes a little bit of unpacking. What I will say is that immediately when you hold this watch in your hand, you can tell there's a lot going on. because it weighs two and a half pounds. That's right. So they say this is a 14 complication watch. I don't know that I'm going to take the time to make sure I get all 14. But what I can say is it's a perpetual calendar that loses one day in 122 years. And I'm not sure exactly what the reason for that is. 24 hour indication. You've got a 12 o'clock, you've got a day of the week, a leap year sub dial at three o'clock. It's a tourbillon. Small seconds. You've got this beautiful bridge on the front of it. I mean, it's just gorgeous. It is absolutely gorgeous. It is a stunning watch, even as big as it is. A hand guilloche solid gold dial that's been coated. They call it a Verdigris, coated with a galvanic treatment. But then you flip it over. 30 meters of water resistance on this, by the way, which is crazy. And you get a seven-day power reserve indicator. It's a hand-wind mechanical movement with a seven-day power reserve indicator. Sunrise, sunset, day, night indicators. And one of the most sophisticated orbital moon phase complications in existence.
Andrew Farrago	Complete with constellations and the ability to compare them against your moon phase.
Everett See	That's right. It's obviously a chronometer grade.
Andrew Farrago	But it's not 316L steel. So.
Everett See	That's right. That's right. And it's got a four mainspring barrel movement, which is what lends to that tremendous power reserve. These watches retailed for about $375,000, and that's basically what you can pick them up for today. They go on sale every once in a while. About $400,000.
Andrew Farrago	I mean, there's 20 of them in the world.
Everett See	That's right. And so you can find them. They're about $400,000 and usually in very good condition. But it's 18 watches in one. That's right. So this is... This is a coffee table book that you wear on your wrist, right? It's a conversation starter, especially for anyone who knows watches. And I think it's probably my favorite of all the flex watches that I've ever seen. Maybe because I wore, I actually wore the version of this that had, so these are set to Greenwich Mean Time. I wore the version of this that had been built for Manhattan time or New York time. And it was just, it was just incredible. That watch had been valued at about a million dollars.
Andrew Farrago	Remind me, it was problematic to set the time. It had to be in its time zone, right?
Everett See	Oh, there's something there. Yeah. And I don't remember. And so I'm sorry.
Andrew Farrago	It had something to do with the calibration of the multiple like timekeeping devices on it between the moon phase and the day-night indicator, setting the time was problematic.
Everett See	And so that's my GFY watch.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah. Cause it'll never be right. I've seen you wear your Speedmaster for days and it's been at the same time. The wrong time. Well, no, it's right twice a day.
Everett See	So that is my first big splash. Now, I want to go back to my dress watch because you've got a similar, your Zeitwerk Minute Repeater, I think is a similar type of watch to this. But you said that Minute Repeater is your dress watch. It would fit the role. Which I can appreciate. But I wanted a true dress watch. And more than that, I wanted perhaps an essential dress watch. And more than that, I think I wanted to find the essential dress watch. Now, this is subjective. I don't know that it is, though. What I'm going to tell you is, for me, this, I believe, is the greatest dress watch ever made. Now, dress watch purists may have something to say about that because it does have a seconds hand, and I think some people think a seconds hand doesn't belong on a dress watch. We're going to ignore that.
Andrew Farrago	Neither does an hour hand. is a... And there needs to be a diamond at the 12 o'clock.
Everett See	Patek Philippe 570. This is a watch from 1938, and Patek made it for about 30 years. This is a jumbo version of Patek's original Calatrava, the reference 96. It is a pretty modern 35.5 millimeter watch. I've picked this in yellow gold, And I've picked this with the central seconds hand. Many of these, in fact, if not most of these, come with a sub-dial, small seconds. I've picked this with the indirect seconds hand, central seconds hand. I think that this watch, there are lots of Calatrabas. I think five or six references, really. And to me, this one is the creme de la creme. The lugs are right for me. The size is right. The bezel to dial proportions are right for me. The hands are right. And most importantly, the dial, the markers and the dial on this are right. This is, to me, the greatest dress watch ever made.
Andrew Farrago	And there's a reason why thousands of SKUs of dress watches have been modeled after this watch. That's right.
Everett See	That's right. And the one I've picked actually has another trick up its sleeve. So this is a, like I said, Central Seconds, reference 570. I've picked a specific type of this. I've picked a double-signed reference 570 from the Somazi retailer, which is a Swiss retailer of Patek for probably the better part of the last century, still today. And I've picked a double-signed Somazi Reference 570 in yellow gold, which I believe is the height of dress watches of all time. This is it. I think you're right. If you ever want to give me a gift, a Somazi double-signed Patek 570 in yellow gold with a central seconds hand.
Andrew Farrago	And this is a vintage 1950 production watch. 35,000 euros. Yeah. And so these are phenomenal condition for being in 1950s watch.
Everett See	You can pick up a 570 for anywhere from 17 to 25. A Somazi signed in good condition is going to be a little bit more. And so that's why I've gone with this. I took the 570.
Andrew Farrago	So this was hard. This was the one you were trying to get over your $30,000 threshold with.
Everett See	And I made it a little bit more special. That's right, Andrew. So I had to work a little bit to find the most special version of this. And I found it. He did. I'm not going to say much more about that watch because what more to say? It's got 200 meters of water resistance. It is. It doesn't.
Andrew Farrago	OK, so next it has intrusion if you breathe on it too close.
Everett See	So next up, I wanted a I wanted a chronograph and I wanted I wanted a good chronograph and I looked at a lot of watches. This is a tough the chronograph being sort of a sporty watch. a pure chronograph. I think when we think of chronographs, Andrew, at least you and me, we sort of think of like racing chronographs. Well, racing chronographs by their very nature, not super expensive.
Andrew Farrago	No, it's, there's not many like chronographs kind of cap. Like, you know, you get into Richard meal chronographs and you get like, there's some up there like way up there, but generally speaking, the, you know, under 20,000 is where you're going to live with chronographs.
Everett See	Yeah, that's right. That's right. And so, You know, I looked at a lot. I looked at like, you know, an OG El Primero. You know, I just looked at a lot of watch. I eventually settled on a watch that I changed just today as we were getting ready for the show. I settled on the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moonshine Gold Speedmaster. Beautiful, solid gold, stunning. And you actually kind of pushed me in this direction because I ultimately didn't go with that watch.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah.
Everett See	I went with an aesthetically very similar watch. Speedmasters have looked the same for nigh on 70 years. Unless you had Snoopy. That's right. And and so this watch looks just like my watch. But you you alerted me to the fact that that just earlier this year.
Andrew Farrago	You can do better than your anniversary watch, which is why I sent it to you.
Everett See	That's right. There were, there were, I believe 20 of these created. They are solid gold Speedmaster pros, 28 pieces, solid gold Speedmaster pros given to all of the members of the Apollo program, as well as Richard Nixon and Spiro Tiagnu. Um, This is a gold watch, solid gold, maroon bezel. And just last year, or just earlier this year, three of these went up for auction, specifically Allen Bean, Ron Evans, the commander of Gemini 3, Gemini 3. And these are terrific. These are terrific. This is the moonshine gold, 50th anniversary. Better. Better in every single way. Maybe not better functioning or in better condition, but just better.
Andrew Farrago	Objectively better because they have that special bit. These were gifted to members of this space program. Uh, and there's photographs of these astronauts wearing them during their training cycles. Like this was the watch that they were given and they wore it. Yeah. It's the anniversary edition on
Everett See	It's just a gold Speedmaster. The anniversary edition emulates. This is the watch. So these are gonna be half a million bucks, right?
Andrew Farrago	One sold for one point something million. That's right. Who's his name? I think it was Alan Beans. No, it was Gus Grissom? It was after these, it was Wally Shiraz sold for like 1.9 million or some shit like that.
Everett See	So 1.9, you want to flex speedy. This is the one. This is the one. So yeah, Andrew, you were right. I was wrong. We, this is the watch I need. So now I've got a Chronomat. I've got my, I've got my chronograph. I've got my GFY watch. I've got my dress watch.
Andrew Farrago	I have a couple. For the record, I picked this watch to outdo your watch. Yes. Because yours was cool and mine was cooler. All right.
Everett See	So let's, let's talk about that because I needed a sub. I needed a sub and any sub is not going to do. I am not. Who do you think I am? Go to the AD and get a basic fit. No, no. I'm going to buy the greatest sub ever. There's one choice. I am going to buy a big crown four line 6538. So in Dr. No, James Bond famously wears a sub. That sub is a big crown four line 65 38 which is objectively speaking the most prized reference of the sub ever made. So notable by its eight millimeter crown, the big crown on a 36 millimeter sub. It's a huge crown. It's got a red triangle at 12. It's a 38 millimeter case. And excuse me, 38 millimeter case, I apologize. And it's got notably four lines of text on the dial, which is a lot of text. But the four lines versus the two lines, Eric Wind predicts that something like 20 of the two lines are available for every one of the four lines, making this much rarer The difference being the four lines are chronometer certified or were at the time of sale.
Andrew Farrago	Officially certified chronometer. That's right. Three words, two lines.
Everett See	That's right. This is the watch. Aluminum inserts, very rare for them to be in great condition. To get one of these, to get one of these in anything even close to original condition, you're looking at Anywhere from $350,000 to $500,000. You do not find these watches in good condition for less than that. One of the hardest watches in the world. You find them in poor condition for that. One of the hardest production watches in the world to find.
Andrew Farrago	Because they're worn. I mean, shit, what was it? Three years ago, we talked about a sub that was in non-working condition, covered in paint stains, And it was going for $150,000. It wasn't a four line. It was just a beat up sub from the eighties that a dude bought for himself because he wanted a good watch to paint in because he was a house painter and he just worked wearing a sub. And then it went to auction and fetched six figures. It didn't even fucking work because the dude wrote the story of that watch. Right. And that's what these four lines are, because it was among the first chronometers available. So people are going to pay more for this exceptional accuracy. So, so professional divers, professional people are buying this baller tool, which tool watch, this is like getting a Pelagos when titanium is first starting to hit at the market. They're buying this watch to abuse it because they need something to fit the need. That's right.
Everett See	That's right. So now I've got four watches, none of which I can wear on a daily basis. I've got my luck. all in one, which it's not an everyday watch. Let's just be straight.
Andrew Farrago	I've got my five 70 strong on just one side.
Everett See	I've got my five 70, which you could daily that depending on your job, but yeah, you could daily that. Uh, I've got my priceless gold speed master as worn by astronauts and my priceless sub, uh, just to be clear, Probably not dailying the sub or the or the speed master. I need to watch the daily. I don't want it to be gold. I want it to be steel because steel wears well. And I'm sorry you guys, you're going to be disappointed because I'm going to do it. I'm getting a 5711. Yeah, I'm getting a blue teak dial 5711 paddock novelist. However, kind of basic bitch you think I am. No, he doesn't do that. I'm going to get a navy dial. So let's be clear. I'm not getting a Tiffany blue 5711. I'm getting a navy dial, double signed Tiffany Patek 5711. These don't come up for sale very often. They made probably about 30 of these total over the years, two to three per year, maybe 40 of them. So they do exist. You find them. There's one on sale right now. Ask for pricing. You're looking at about $320,000 to $350,000 for one of these in good condition.
Andrew Farrago	It doesn't even say Swiss made. It just says Swiss.
Everett See	That's right. This is the 5711. To the extent you're going to get one, this is the one. And because I have been gifted this Very high leverage, unlimited budget. This is the one I'm getting. We don't need to talk about this watch. 120 meters water resistance, unlike Andrew's Nautilus with its measly 60, eight millimeters, 40 millimeters. It's the shit and it's signed Tiffany and it's a flex.
Andrew Farrago	It's only flex. No one would ever know.
Everett See	And I'm wearing it every day. I'm wearing it every day. and I'm banging it on shit, and I'm swimming, and I'm smoking cigars, walking the dog.
Andrew Farrago	You have $2 million to spend on watches, so somebody's walking your dog for you.
Everett See	Maybe. I like to walk the dog in my 5711. So I actually think I've spent a little bit over $2 million. I think, give or take, $2.2, $2.3 is what I've spent on watches today. And you know what? I'm pretty happy with my collection. Let's talk a little bit, Andrew, about the differences in our approaches, because I think it's interesting and I think it says something about the way we collect. You went with very complicated, very interesting watches. I went with, almost to a watch, simpler watches and special versions. And I think it's interesting because... You went straight LE. I went limited edition and I went more old than you did. And I think that actually comes through in the way we collect. You know, I've got my 1990s titanium G-Shock.
Andrew Farrago	Ugh.
Everett See	I find these watches that are interesting for a reason that I'm interested in. And you want the thing that's the new. Coolest and best. And coolest and best. Yeah. And sometimes I don't want the best. Right. I want like this is objectively worse than the 2003 Lexus, but it's cool. Right. It was cool to me to see as our collections came together, how we had, you know, no matter how much money we have to spend, we're still buying watches in the same way.
Andrew Farrago	I want the cool shit. I want that minute repeater. I want to know when the hour changes and I want to raise my hand up and let everyone else know, listen to that bitches. Listen to them chimes.
Everett See	Well, here we are. We're just about an hour. We've done it. Clearly we've picked two of the coolest, no, uh, no bar watch collections on earth. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Uh, I hope that we both have made our friend Eric wind proud. With that said, I do think we need to wrap up. Are you, is there anything else you want to say about this process? Cause we have not ever done anything like this.
Andrew Farrago	No, I, I was actually kind of surprised at how little money relative to the amount of money that can be spent. We both spent, I was kind of surprised through like a really deliberate, two and a half millions, a lot of money. No, because if you get into, you know, I think this would be, it's easy to go find like, oh yeah, no, this one, this one watch is going to auction for, you know, $2 million. It's easy to create a sub collection of like the objectively coolest subs out there or the objectively coolest take your pick or buy Jackie Kennedy's tank or, you know, those kinds of things. And I appreciated that we still both took a really pragmatic, like, no, I want to, I want a collection of, of shit, like a meaningful watches that are cool, not just because they're expensive. They happen to be expensive, but they're also just really cool.
Everett See	You know, I think the one, I think the one obvious as my parting thought, I think the one obvious hole in both of our collections is lesser known lesser known sort of niche, the micro brand of the horology world.
Andrew Farrago	The dude who makes one watch a year and it sells for $850,000.
Everett See	And that's obviously, you know, that's a combination of us, A, not being exposed to real horology, and B, not being exposed to... expensive shit, right? Yeah, they don't let us in those places. That's right. And so with that said, you know, I think that these watches are interesting. I think they're fun. I think our goal was just to to play with this and to sort of show you guys how we would think about this stuff. I'm curious to know what your picks are at home. If you think like, you know, we missed on any of our choices or if you think like, gosh, you really missed out on this type of watch or or whatever, we'd love to hear your, we'd love to hear your comments. You can let us know on Instagram or, or, or at our discord if you're a part there, but we'll know. Yeah. I thought it was a really fun project. Uh, more fun is as soon as Evan suggested this, thank you by the way, Evan, for suggesting this. As soon as he suggested it, I was like, all right, I can play this game. That it's, it's, it's fun. It's fun. I'm sure we won't do this very often if ever again, but it was fun for an episode.
Andrew Farrago	I'm not sure my picks change much. Yeah, that's right. Two years even. That's right. Yeah.
Everett See	Well, maybe we, you know, you've run into another $2 million. Now what?
Andrew Farrago	These five are off the table. Geez.
Everett See	Now we're going deep. Um, well with that said, Andrew, other things, what do you got?
Andrew Farrago	I got another thing. So last night I got home from work. I went and I was, it was like, it wasn't late exactly, but it was post kids dinner time. I didn't want macaroni and cheese and hot dogs and peas for dinner. And I was like, man, what the hell do I do? And I had, I had just gone grocery shopping, so I'm not limited on options, but I'm also like a little bit limited on kind of inspiration. It's like 7pm and I'm like, I don't really know what to do. Um, so I'm like opening my fridge and I'm looking at it and I'm like, how are you wondering what you're going to eat? The question is, what do you want to make? Uh, and I'm like, I look in my pantry, I have some shelf staple gnocchi and I'm like, okay, we got something here cause that's going to do it for me. I had gotten some shiitake mushrooms for something else and I was like, I know exactly what I'm going to do. So I did a brown butter and sage with shiitake and garlic sauce. Ooh. Did you brown your own butter? So first I got my pan screaming hot and I just salt and peppered a sirloin, hit it in there, cooked my sirloin, foil wrapped it, throw it in a low heat oven just to kind of hold some temperature. It ended up getting a little overcooked because the brown butter sage took a little longer than I anticipated. Really the gnocchi took a little longer than I anticipated. I made a brown butter, sage, garlic, shiitake mushroom sauce, loosened it a little bit with some of the pasta water, got the gnocchi in there while it was still hot, kind of crisped up a few of the pieces, hit it with some parmesan, sliced my steak, threw it on top. It is one of the best things I have ever made and it took the length of time to boil water And then the three minutes and Yoki was in there. So like 17 minutes. Yeah. Start to finish like super fast, super easy. I'm going to link to an easy brown butter and sage sauce or like sauce recipe. It says it takes, I don't know how long, where's the, how long does it take? A few minutes. It's super simple. A few minutes. It's super easy. It is like, velvety luxury deliciousness and it was like a good reminder of like how good simple bold flavors can be when they work together and are made thoughtfully. So my other thing is brown butter sage sauce because on Yoki man, that was killer. And then throw just like an easy sear salt and pepper steak on top of it. Oh boy. That did it for me.
Everett See	I'm into it. It was so good. I love quick recipes like that.
Andrew Farrago	It was so easy. And shelf stable gnocchi is like, could perhaps be a whole other thing in and of itself because it's so filling. It's so good. It's so easy. And it's not like pasta, right? Pasta just like pasta doesn't, isn't cheap. It doesn't necessarily taste cheap, but there's something kind of special about gnocchi because typically it's a really labor intensive thing. So to just have it quick, like that, it's like, man, this is like, this is put together. And it's also cheap. Yeah. Cheap and good. Keep shelf stable gnocchi in your pantry. I've got another thing.
Everett See	Do me. Uh, I think I've talked about it on the show a lot of times, uh, but I disc golf and disc golf is interesting because it's populated by nerds and normies alike. Yeah, actually, This is a conversation I had with someone on the course recently. There are two primary, like, plurality groups within disc golf. One of those are dirtbag hippies. And I say dirtbag affectionately.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah, they're the dudes who, like, live out of their van and primarily rock climb in disc golf. They're not bad people. They're just, like, they're just dirty because that's, they live in a van. That's right. Often by the river.
Everett See	And, and the other group is like youth group kids. And, and, and anybody, I've said this to other disc golfers and everyone I've said it to like, kind of like puts their head back and they're like, yeah, that's right. Because those are the two primary groups and they coexist. Anyway, disc golf is interesting because there's no like, Equipment made for disc golf outside of the discs themselves and and goals obviously like nobody's chain buckets. That's right. Nobody's making clothes apparel specifically for disc golf. There's there's a company recently anyway, but nobody wears this people are just wearing and there's a few different types of shoes. So like like soft sided trail hikers, specifically the Adidas Terex, which is a shoe I talked about on the show before. Me too. That's right. We've both talked about them. Um, but, but there are a few other, like some people do trail runners, but the other category of shoes that a lot of people wear for disc golf is vans because they're skateboard shoes. And so there's some similarities to some structure. Yeah, that's, that's right. So grip structure, And, you know, different areas of the course they're going to be worse for. Anyway, last spring, as it was still raining, I bought a pair of shoes that are Gore-Tex. They're kind of heavy and they're waterproof. I bought a pair of Vans. I wore them once and then it got nice and I didn't wear them again. And I didn't really even think about them. But as we've gotten back into the rainy season, I've started wearing these again. What they are are Vans. Ultra range, EXO, the MTE-1, whatever, just Google Vans ultra range. Basically what these are is a classic looking Vans shoe, but they're sort of beefed up. You can tell they're like more. They look like air walks. That's right. They're more, more fluffy.
Andrew Farrago	They look like 90s skate shoes.
Everett See	These are a Gore-Tex lined, kind of like a flat soled hiker. is what they are. And I'll tell you, these are terrific. So they're warm.
Andrew Farrago	They're dry. You got pull tabs to get on. So, you know, they're serious. Well, which is not like that's not sarcastic. That's like these are by design, like like activity shoes.
Everett See	The pull tabs are one of the nicest features of these. They're just super well constructed and super comfortable. And they've been fantastic. So I have a pair of I don't know, $180 Adidas Terra XR3s that I bought for disc golf. Don't hate them. Don't love them. Uh, I go to these. So this is the season where I'd wear one of these two shoes. I go to these every time. I just every time because I want to wear them. They're comfortable. They are the insulated work. Well, yeah, they're insulated. They're waterproof. They're breathable though. They're not super, super hot. Um, If not for the relatively flat sole, these would be a terrific hiking shoe. With that said, the lugs on the bottom are not super aggressive. And so I think that traction might be an issue if you were in slippery or in mud. Um, but outside of those circumstances, these are terrific.
Andrew Farrago	I love them for well-groomed environment.
Everett See	This is, these aren't bad tread and I'm going to buy another pair of these because they're just fantastic. This is like, if you're out, Out and about, you want a shoe that kind of looks, and they look cool too, I think that's the other thing. They don't look like functional shoes, although they are. If this is your style at all, that sort of half cab or whatever, and you want something for goofing off outside in the rain, like I said, probably not a mud shoe or whatever, but. What color do you have them in? I've got them in navy, which they don't have available now, but it's navy with a gum sole. Um, yeah, they're terrific. And I just dig them. That's my other thing for the week. That's a good other thing.
Andrew Farrago	I like these white, but they're not great for your application.
Everett See	That's right. Yeah.
Andrew Farrago	They would just get super dirty. All right.
Everett See	So I got 120 bucks for these.
Andrew Farrago	I got a pair of all white Pegasus forties. I was like, I need a new pair of gym shoes and I'm going to Disneyland. I need some like good comfy wandering shoes. And they got fucked up at Disneyland and it wasn't by like just like it was normal day to day stuff. It was the fact that one morning my almost nine year old smashed a 20 ounce hot coffee off of the table and into my lap and down one of my legs and then just somehow couldn't find to put his feet on the earth. They had to land on my feet. I was furious. Anyway, I got home, filled up the bathtub with hot water, put in like three scoops of OxiClean, threw my shoes in there, brand new. Not even staining on the bottoms of the soles. OxiClean's the truth, man.
Everett See	Did you get the Oregon Ducks version?
Andrew Farrago	I almost did, but I was like, I don't want to pay 20 extra bucks for the duck version.
Everett See	They do make an Oregon Ducks version.
Andrew Farrago	They do. And it's for only 20 more dollars. I should have, but I didn't. And I'm not disappointed that I didn't.
Andrew Farrago	Because I also got some Air Max at the same time. So I went a little bit, a little bit harder than the previous one.
Everett See	You just went ham. Uh, Andrew, I think that's it. I think we're done. I think are done with 40 and 20 this week.
Andrew Farrago	Yeah. All right. Mr. Everett. See, shall we do a quick explanation since we have just a couple of minutes here to spare?
Everett See	Yeah. Yeah, of course we should. It's maybe, uh, it's maybe going to be, maybe going to be anticlimactic at this point, but perhaps we'll our editor in chief or perhaps it was Mike, Mike, no, Mike and we'll, we're talking about chat GBT. And one of them asked ChatGPT if it knew what our podcast was, and it did. It knew what WatchClicker was.
Andrew Farrago	It knew what WatchClicker was. And then I asked if it knew what 40 and 20 was.
Everett See	Oh, yeah, that's right.
Andrew Farrago	And then it's like I had to kind of drill down a little bit before it found us. And then I asked, who are the hosts? And ChatGPT told us that As of my last knowledge update in January of 2022, the hosts of the 40 and 20 podcast were Andrew Farago and Everett C. It went on to talk about just its general assessment of our podcast, but.
Everett See	Which is good. It's a good assessment. It's not a poor assessment.
Andrew Farrago	I am confused where Andrew Farago, like how it got my not right last name Farago, which I kind of like. Sounds kind of exotic and different. I learned that it's a Slovakian name.
Everett See	Where did it come from?
Andrew Farrago	I don't know. That's the curious part. And why do you just have a last initial? Yeah. So anyway, I sent that to the guys and it ripped Mike and Will up. Will got to laughing so hard he woke his wife up. Yeah. It was it was a thing. So I have been rebranded the 40 and 20 Watch Clicker podcast is now hosted by Andrew Farrago and my good friend Everett See. What a weird AI experience.
Everett See	I love it. Andrew Farrago, I'm glad you host this show with me. Everett See, I appreciate you. Hey folks, I appreciate you and I want to thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20 of the Watch Clicker podcast. I haven't even had that much to drink, I swear. Do me a favor and check us out on our website. That's WatchClicker.com. That is where we post weekly articles, reviews, and every single episode of this podcast. You can also check us out on socials, specifically at Instagram at WatchClicker and at 40 and 20 underscore WatchClicker. That's where we post photos and updates about what we're doing. If you want to support us, and we hope you do, you can do that at patreon.com slash 40 and 20. Look, guys, it is not free to continue to do this. We have hosting costs, software, and occasionally new hardware. And that's how we pay for it. All of you who are supporting us, we thank you so much. And if you don't, maybe think about it. Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. And don't forget to check us out next Thursday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.