Episode 255 - Watches Roundup for September 14, 2023

Published on Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:24:29 -0700

Synopsis

Andrew and Everett host the 40 and 20 The Watch Clicker podcast, where they discuss new watch releases, products, and other topics they enjoy. In this episode, they talk about the Swatch x Blancpain 50 Fathoms "Swathem" collaboration, new releases from Zin, a Jacques Bianchi dive watch, Houdinki's collaboration with Parchee, refinements to the Bell & Ross BR03 case, new Seiko Presage watches, and an Australian brand called Nullarbor. They also cover Everett's new pencil case storage solution and Andrew's magnetic knife block. Throughout the conversation, they share their thoughts, opinions, and witty banter about the various watch-related topics.

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Andrew	Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20 The Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett	Super duper.
Andrew	Better now. How are you? Wow, that was it. That's all you got for me, huh? You said you were tired. I didn't realize you were dead. That is everything I have for you. Uh, I am good. I worked, it's, it's Wednesday. We don't usually record on Wednesday, so I worked today and it was just kind of a long day. It was all classroom instruction and it was all like that, like mandatory annual training that you just have to go to. And as a result, it's very tedious.
Everett	Yeah. Everything's always tedious. In my experience, everything is always tedious. This isn't tedious. Well, sometimes it is. You're tedious. Um, yeah, no, I hate those mandatory trainings. Like, okay, I get it.
Andrew	Yeah. And I don't know, there's a whole bunch of nuance associated to it, but it just, it makes for a really long day.
Everett	Yeah, I get it. But thank you for your work on the slide. Your choice of colors is perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, good stuff. Good stuff. No, everything's normal for me. I mean, we got, we started fall sports this last week, which is at this point three kids, three different sports, plus there's chess club, plus there's math circle.
Andrew	And so it's been like. And piano and guitar lessons.
Everett	And piano and guitar. Yes, correct. And so like at 430 every day, I find myself checking the calendar to make sure I'm not missing something. Just mad dash in every direction. That's right. Yeah. Although they're old enough now, I dropped the one of the 10 year olds off at soccer today and then walked across the street to the bar.
Andrew	Nice. That's a good bar too.
Everett	Yeah.
Andrew	Yeah, that's right. Have you, have you gotten the Godfather there? I don't know what that is and I have not. Their $32 Bloody Mary that is basically a meal and a Bloody Mary.
Everett	Nope. Haven't done it. Probably won't. Not my jam at all. Like give me vodka and tomato juice. Call it a day. I don't mind an olive. You want to throw some asparagus? That's fine.
Andrew	Send me a slider, some shrimp.
Everett	Man, I hate it. Like that's actually just a sandwich on a fucking glass. Okay. Yeah. No, it's not my thing at all. It's also bottomless. That's not the case. It's not true. That would help.
Andrew	I don't know. I always, I take issue with most bar Bloody Mary's. Like once you find a bar that does a good Bloody Mary, like that's my go-to there. Man. But typically they're, they're just, they're not quite right.
Everett	I am, I am very easy going when it comes to Bloody Mary. A little bit of spice.
Andrew	I want my lips to tingle.
Everett	Lots of salt. Pepper.
Andrew	Boom. Pepper, spice. A little bit of vinegar in there, like whether from like pickled vegetables. I'm good with that.
Everett	Yeah, I'm good with that. Put a little pickle juice in it.
Andrew	Yeah, I can go for that.
Everett	But I'm not like, oh, that your Bloody Mary isn't good. Like, I've never had a Bloody Mary that I was like, ew.
Andrew	No, me, me either. But I've also there's like few and far between that. I'm like, yep, you got it. The one of the bars I worked at in college, the bartender had like his secret Bloody Mary recipe. that was like 25 ingredients. Too many. When people would order a Bloody Mary, it would be like, I'm going to kill you.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah. But it was his, it was his thing. Like he didn't have to do that. No, but we had to. Oh yeah. That's brutal. Uh, yeah. No, keep it simple.
Andrew	Yeah. Spicy tomato juice. And then a slider on top. Maybe pizza, definitely a couple of wings and some shrampies.
Everett	Double bacon fried egg burger with the surf and turf topper. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about that. Yeah. No, I do not need that. And I'm not going to pay 32 bucks for a fucking Bloody Mary either. Like a burger and a Bloody Mary. You are going to pay 32 bucks for that. No, a burger and a Bloody Mary is going to be like, I don't know, maybe 16 plus what, eight That's 24 bucks. That's less. Six dollars less. I pulled a picture of this godfather. Which is less. Um, in any event.
Andrew	24 is less than 36. That's what's less.
Everett	That sounds like an expedition. Haven't done it. Probably won't, but I'm glad, I'm glad it exists. I'm not unhappy about its existence. It seems like you might be. No, no. Just, I don't want any part of it. Uh, in any event, we are not talking about Bloody Marys or burgers today or sliders on Bloody Marys. I don't know why you're not. We are, in fact, talking about watches because that's what we do here. This is, if you're just tuning in on like a random surprise me play, that is literally a burger on, that's absurd, Andrew.
Andrew	No, I can do that. It's absurd. I think that one's bagel and lox with bacon. That does look like bagel and lox. Bagel and lox, bacon, shrimp, bunch of vegetables. Looks like cheese and salami maybe. I did have a lox bagel for lunch today.
Everett	Ooh.
Andrew	Yeah. Sounds really good.
Everett	Half salt bagel, cream cheese, lox, capers, little bit of thin sliced onion.
Andrew	I gotta be real careful with lox. They like something about that just kind of gives me weird heartburn and then locks burps.
Everett	You get the locks burps.
Andrew	Yeah. Days. Yeah. I know how that goes. It's worth it, but not for the people around me. Oh, sorry. I had locks on Tuesday. It's Friday, man. I don't know what to tell you. It hangs around. Um, so anyway, watches, that's what we wanted to talk about today.
Everett	We're talking about watches cause that's what we do. This is 40 and 20, the underscore watch clicker podcast, uh, where underscore the watch clicker podcast. That's right. where we talk about watches. Every single week for the last 13 and a half years, we get together.
Andrew	254 episodes that are available for you to listen to. Today marks 255. 255.
Everett	That sounds like a number that should be important, but it's not. Here we are. We're just recording again. Yeah. Like we do every Thursday. So here we are. As we approach Five years, 260 episodes, which is like two and a half months from now. No, a month and a half from now. Yeah. That will mark six years of us doing this. And in that time, I think I've missed one episode. Mm hmm. Andrew has I may have missed two at this point.
Andrew	I think we're each under a handful.
Everett	You have missed two or three. Yeah. We missed one episode together. Because we both had COVID. Very bad. Very bad COVID. Yeah. Where Will took over, but in that time, every single Thursday.
Andrew	Even Will took over. We haven't missed a Thursday. Every single Thursday. Well, no, we've had an episode recorded for every Thursday, but we have missed a few publishing deadlines.
Everett	Yeah, you don't know any words about that. Every single Thursday, we have published an episode of this podcast where we have talked about Watches. I don't think that there is another podcast on the face of the earth that can make a similar claim.
Andrew	Both in length of length of time.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	So episodes published.
Everett	That's right. Consistency. Look, you guys, we haven't missed a week going on, going on five years. And Everett and I are both very lazy people. In another, in another month. I don't think there's anybody else who can say that. Nope. I mean, there's a few podcasts that are doing the consistency thing really well. I know Scottish Watches is kind of a different deal. I don't really count them, but maybe that's not fair.
Andrew	We're older. They just have 10,000 episodes.
Everett	That's right. You've got Whiskey and Watches. Love those guys. And they are very consistent. You've got Risk Cheese Radio. No longer a newcomer. They've been around for a while, but just haven't been doing it quite as long as us. All the folks who were in place when we got going, have either gone away or just aren't quite the same thing. Two broke watch knobs, both of us cut our teeth on two broke watch knobs. Uh, you know, they've, they're still going, they're still going, but have, have not been quite as consistent. The Grenados, They go back and forth. Sometimes they're very consistent, sometimes less. We are the stalwarts of the watch podcast community. And I don't even feel bad about saying that. You shouldn't. Not even a little bit. And today's no different. We're going to talk about watches. We're going to round up the most cool things that have happened in the last week. Andrew, we missed some big news. I think it was the day after we recorded. Yes. Last week that Swatch announced their collaboration with Blancpain.
Andrew	It's Blankpain.
Everett	Blankpain. There is a 50 Fathoms bioceramic Swatch watch. that dropped last week. If you didn't know... What are we going to call it? We have Moon Swatch. That's a pretty easy... Now you know. Swathems? I don't believe that there has been a nifty 50 nickname passed yet.
Andrew	50 Swathems, you think?
Unknown	Yeah, I don't know.
Everett	That's kind of fun.
Andrew	Where is the link? I know it's here.
Everett	Well, I texted it to you. There it is. In any event, Much like the Moon Swatch, Blancpain has released, with Swatch, a 50 Fathoms dive watch. And look, this thing is legit. So the CEO of Blancpain has famously said, hey look, I am not going to... Blancpain will never release a quartz watch. And true to that, this is an automatic watch. And just... Tip to tail, this is a better watch than the Moon Swatch. Andrew? 100%.
Andrew	Agree or disagree? 100% better in every regard than the Moon Swatch. I think a big component of that is that they were forced to go with a automatic movement. So in doing that, I think there was probably some thinking of, all right, well, if we're doing that, let's do some other cool shit with it that we wouldn't have otherwise done. And they chose a freaking cool movement. They're using the, what's it, the system one, as it called?
Everett	System 51 named after it's 51 parts. This is a non serviceable swatch automatic movement. It's been around for a handful of years, if not a decade at this point. So system 51 is a very fitting movement for this watch.
Andrew	Yes. And it looks like the 50 fathoms. I mean, but it's bio ceramic. That's right. Unlike the moon swatch where you're like, oh, that's I know exactly what that is This you obviously will have this a similar reaction, but it has it bears greater resemblance to its Big brother Father maybe and see I think actually the moon swatch is a dead ringer for a Speedmaster Pro.
Everett	I'm not sure what you're I'm not sure what you're referring to We got five colorways here.
Andrew	What's your favorite?
Everett	Yeah, I think for me, it's got to be the Pacific Ocean, the yellow and black, although I'm kind of a huge fan of that. Oh, which is the which is the white one, the Antarctic.
Andrew	Oh, with the moisture indicator. Yeah, that's right. I like the Arctic, the no rad. Yeah, yeah, that one's the orange with the no radiation. marker on it.
Everett	So not just a, you know, so the moon swatch, I think is a pretty simple watch, right? The Speedmaster is a flat printed dial, not so with the 50 fathoms and, and much like you'd expect here, we've got, we've got a lot going on. The handset is gorgeous. The dials are gorgeous. Each of these has a bit of an ombre, um, applied numerals. a phenomenal looking bezel that works, working bezel, a great modeled crown. I mean, these are, for lack of a better term, these are well-polished watches. Each of them. Yeah. And but for the fact that they're made out of bioceramic, oh, drilled lugs on these, but for the fact that these are made out of bioceramic, this is a pretty good. I mean, just on paper, this is a pretty good watch.
Andrew	100% agree. This is a way cooler release to me. This isn't that all the direction that I expected swatch collaborations to go for this bio ceramic line, right? Like I, there's a hundred watches that I, I never would have gotten here in the guessing game.
Everett	Well, Blancpain is such an obscure brand. I mean, really more than any of the other like player, swatch group players, Blancpain is inaccessible. Omega is like the every man's luxury watch. Yeah. Blancpain sits on the other end of that spectrum. Like Russian oligarchs wear Blancpain and nobody else. Like they are... Yeah, autocrats for the most part. Like, this is not an accessible brand. So for them to have chosen this watch, I agree with you. It's hard to guess that they were going there. Although I think we've heard rumblings about this recently. But before that, I'm not sure it would have been on anybody's top two or three list.
Andrew	Even with the rumblings, it's still like, no, fuck off. That's not where we're going. Next up is a tank, a bioceramic tank.
Everett	Well, let's have we done that? Have we played that game? Have we looked at the swatch group brands? Oh, not recently. So Tiso, Omega, Breguet. Oh, you know, Breguet, that could be fun, too. Longines, Harry Winston, Rado, Mido, Glashutte, Sertina, Hamilton, Balmain, Jack Kedrow. We could get a swatch. What's the the the bird one? Uh, Union Glass Shoot, Flick Flack, uh, Longa. Could we get a Longa one? Hamilton.
Andrew	Ooh, that actually could kind of fit with the trajectory.
Everett	A Swatch Longa one. Yeah.
Andrew	So yeah, there's some, there's some, like, are they just trying to make these inaccessible watches accessible? Is that what's happening?
Everett	You know, I don't know. I think they're kind of trying to go for the icons and certainly Speedmaster is an icon. Certainly 50 fathoms is an icon. So yeah, where they go with this next, who, who knows?
Andrew	I think Long Jean would kind of fit. Breguet'd fit too.
Everett	Yeah. And maybe, maybe they're done. I kind of doubt it, but why would they be? Yeah. You know, the lugs and everything on the Longa seem like they'd work with this. And if Blancpain can lower themselves, certainly Lange can, right?
Andrew	Yeah. Let's put one in people's hands because they'll never touch one.
Everett	So sorry we missed it. It's been a whole week since you've heard our thoughts. Andrew, are you generally a thumbs up?
Andrew	I'm a two thumbs up. I'm a two thumbs up too, man. I'm a two thumbs up. Me too. I like this release. I think this is a cool thing. I hope, though, that they keep it stable at this five watch collection.
Everett	Oh yeah, 400 bucks.
Andrew	We didn't say. Oh yeah. When I... Well, you'll get them on the used market for like 900 bucks for the next couple of months.
Everett	Is that right? I haven't even seen one for sale yet. Because they don't come out until Saturday. Oh, is that the deal? Yeah. Okay. 400 bucks. I would have thought with the System 51 movement and what looks to be, to me, to be a better watch, that they would have been priced higher than that. But I do think there'll be less demand for these than the Speedys.
Andrew	Initially. No. Eventually. Yeah.
Everett	I think you'll be able to get 48 hours later.
Andrew	I bet for like three months they're going to be on the secondary market for way too much money.
Everett	Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. My prediction is that these will be a little bit less and by a little bit, I mean like a quarter as hard to get as the speedies, but we'll see. We'll see.
Unknown	Yeah. Cool. Watch.
Andrew	Alrighty then. Uh, Some some new stuff from Zin. Zin's a brand we haven't talked about in a while. It's been a minute. So they, in honor of the anniversary of the 356 Pilot Chronograph, have done three new releases, one of them being an anniversary release, the Pilot Classic Anniversary. Easy enough. The next two being the 356 Pilot Classic ASE and the 356 Pilot Classic. And these are great. They're all the Zen things that you want. Bicompax, chronographs, one being a panda, and the other being kind of an interesting kind of smoky gray gradient dial with black sub-dials. And I really like that.
Everett	Yeah, the fonts on these are really good. I think Sin Zin does a really good job with fonts, but these in particular, when I cracked open the link, I was like, ah, ah, yes, very, very good. They do a thing where the made in Germany is in a large and small caps in like, I don't know, Calibri or something trashy. But other than that, I think they do a really, really good. It's not large and small caps. It's upper and lower case. And it's like, hmm, okay. But, you know, the 356, I think this is... Oh, instead of uniformly uppercase? Yeah. Right? Like... Yeah. Anyway, it's just funny to me.
Andrew	Also, the spacing doesn't look quite right.
Everett	The kerning. But this is a great watch. The 356, I think, is such a classic case. Pushers are real simple. This has got a great Zen crown. great size on these 38 and a half. Yeah. We've got a Zaleda 56 hour automatic chronograph on these and they're, these are coming in at under three grand.
Andrew	Yeah. They're like, what?
Everett	Uh, 2,650, which is a terrific price for this watch. Yeah. I do wish you could get these on a, on a bracelet.
Andrew	Yeah. these would be nice on a bracelet, but that's, I don't know. I feel like Zen's always got something kind of weird.
Everett	Oh, I think you actually, you may be able to get the, you may be able to get the gray dot on a bracelet.
Andrew	The anthracite or the anniversary? The anniversary. Let's see. Let's see. If you can get one, there's only 500 pieces of them. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Their website always bugs me. It's a It's just so bad. And for like the caliber of company that they are, why?
Everett	Yeah, I don't get it either. I think it's because they are not really selling their own watches. So I think this is... Because they never have any? Well, and I think they're using almost exclusively third party retailers too. So, like, what's the point?
Andrew	To have a website that works. That's not hard. Like 18-year-old porn stars can figure it out. This is a enormous company, at least relative to an 18-year-old.
Everett	Did we talk about the Jacques Bianchi JB200 when it came out? I feel like we must have. But I don't know if we did.
Andrew	I don't know that we did. I think it might've been on a list, but I don't know if it made the list. Cause we often exhaust our time before we exhaust our list.
Everett	Oh, I, that's very likely that we had it on a list, but.
Andrew	Cause I know that, like, I remember this. I remember even talking to you about this seated right here.
Everett	So, uh, yeah, Jacques Bianchi, brand that came out a few years ago, sort of a zombie brand, I think, and I hope I'm not offending anybody if I say that, which is a revival of a 1980s brand owned by Jacques. Jacques Bianchi. Yeah, that's right. They released a very familiar, what I'm going to call a familiar 70s style dive case, I think in 2019. And these watches are terrific. They just look like they could be from the 1970s. And they have now released a new French Destro dive watch. And it's got, it's essentially the same watch with a better movement. They did have NH35s and they now come with Soprad movements, but instead of a scuba dude, On the dial, we've now got this lovely octopus. It's an octopus, like a Mediterranean octopus. Tons of superluminova all over this thing. I'm sure it lights up. Great movement.
Andrew	Oh, it's gotta be, because that's so much lume. Yeah, that's right. That's right. It has to add weight to the watch. There has to be a discernible amount of weight created by the amount of luminescent material on this dial.
Everett	And these are just, I'm really captivated by these things. So they're not particularly expensive. I think these come in at well under $1,000, 646 euros. 720 bucks or so. That's right. 42 millimeter, really classically sized dive case, no bracelet, but they come on a terrific tropic strap. 200 meters of water resistance, tons of super-luminova, SOPROD PO24 automatic movement. I almost feel like it's hard to say too much about this watch because I think the paper, the stats don't really do it justice.
Andrew	So here's, it is a Kickstarter campaign, right?
Everett	From 2019, that's right.
Andrew	Well, so the current one, the the pool pro.
Unknown	Mm hmm.
Andrew	It says that it's. Limited edition, individually numbered, preorder. Will be available for a duration of only 15 days with expected delivery in January 24, so that's actually quite a pretty. Am I broken? Pretty quick turn. Yeah. For a preorder like that, and that's I appreciate doing limited time. pre-orders as opposed to limited edition runs because then there's nobody like, oh, I, you know, I got on the website and I couldn't get it. It's like, no, you chose to not buy this watch in the two weeks that it was available. And you know, everyone we've talked to when they do limited time order, like limited time only runs 90% of their orders come in in the first hour and then they trickle in until completion. That's right. Um, but it'd be really nice for, you know, if this is, this is what's like, knocking your socks off to be able to guarantee that you can get one provided that you log in over a two week period.
Everett	And look, this, I'm really captivated by these cause it's a really good execution of the Monon case, but this, there is not, this is not groundbreaking. There's nothing earth shattering happening here. Okay. But if you, if this is your jam, I think that this is one of the best one of the best brands available right now making these. There's a handful of companies that are making modern case divers. I think this is the guy that I'm going to go with because it's a really neat brand, really good execution, great dial.
Andrew	The scuba duper is like a one for one of the 1982. That's right. Yeah. Which is really cool. And when you get the our hand at like two 15, it looks like scuba dudes holding the sword.
Everett	And you know, you may be able to get a similar case out of like an Alley brand. There may be an Alley brand making a similar cased watch for under $300. I don't know. I genuinely don't know. Chilling with watches on YouTube, he would, I'm sure, know. But if not, at under $700, especially now with the SOPRA, this is a really good deal. Yeah, it's cool.
Andrew	Andrew, what's next? We have another Houdinki collaboration release. Actually, releases. Release Paren S. Collaborating with Parchee. Parchee is Kara Barrett's brainchild doing kid-friendly generally watches and kid watches that are... Don't worry about it. That are fun and usually really colorful. We have this Houdinki collaboration that looks My first thought, I was like, what's happening here? So they collaborated with her to do vintage inspired, tool-y, clunky divers. Yeah. And like my first thought, I was like, that's a U50.
Everett	Or a 11 Atmos.
Andrew	Yeah. Or anything of that ilk. Like you can get all of these flavors and feels out of these very Thule dive watches. They're coming in two sizes, 32 millimeter for the smaller statured young watch enthusiast and 36 for those of us with, you know, a little bit not juvenile wrists.
Everett	Yeah. And I think the 30, I don't think there's ever been a 36 millimeter, right? I think that's the first for Apache, right? Yes.
Andrew	So here's the, here's what's really exciting. Cause I looked at this and I was like, Oh, that's kind of a bummer. These are really cool. It's a whole dinky collab though. So it's, we're, we're gonna, this is like a money dropper, 85 bucks for the 36 and 75 for the 32. If you buy them as a set, it's 150. This is cool coming on. I think it's just the gray Velcro strap available, but it's super fun.
Everett	Yeah, I mean, these are great. It's dropped all the pretense, 30 meters of water resistance, Japanese quartz movement.
Andrew	Yeah. You don't need any more than that. This watch is designed to be giving to a child. Yeah. This watch will get lost.
Everett	And so I do think these are very similar to the Parchees that were released in the first run, except for the colors. You've got this very Zin, like you said, Andrew, Zin color, you've got the silver case, which I think is the first for Parchi. Blacked out, these are stoic, sort of an aged loom thing going on.
Andrew	Yeah, aluminum, I think, is the material. So not 316L steel. Clutch your pearls. How dare they? Yeah, what'd they use?
Unknown	It's aluminum, yep.
Andrew	These are really fun. I think this is a really cool. This is one of my favorite of dinky collaborations Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Everett	Can you still get these are these still available?
Andrew	Looking now sold out join waitlist. So no.
Everett	Yeah Yeah, that should have been expected I guess Sorry guys.
Andrew	We're talking about a thing that you can't buy we do that occasionally and we do that from time to time a lot of the things we talked about you can't buy because you just like You're not going to mortgage your house.
Everett	Yeah, but there's your traffic. I dig it. Can I talk about something that I'm kind of excited about? No.
Unknown	I'll go home.
Everett	Belen Ross has released a second generation, a refinement, if you will, of the BRO3 case. So I have talked about the BRO five at length.
Andrew	I think it's just a really terrific watch. It bummed me out when I put it on for the first time because I was like, God damn it. Now I want this. If it rides and feels very much like the Santos, it's clearly a lot bigger. It's a lot chunkier, chunkier. Yeah. Uh, if it feels not as much of a dress watch as the Santos does, but has all that same sleeks felt good feel to it. It's kind of like wearing the bull of a curve, which is, one of the most comfortable and unattractive watches I've ever put on.
Everett	So the the BR05 of course is a relatively recent addition to the Bell and Ross line. Bell and Ross has done you know sort of vintage skin diver cases but they're probably almost certainly best known for their BR03 big chunky square as shit exposed screws case. This is a pilot's watch sort of a Looks like an instrument. An instrument watch. And I have, on a couple of different occasions, put this watch on and thought, gosh, it's so close. I really like this watch, but it's just a touch too much. It's a little bit too much. You know, for what it is, just the tiniest bit too much. And I think that they may have Fix this. So these have just been circulated in spec. And I think only a handful of people have actually had their hands on these, these black cases.
Andrew	Gosh, they're good.
Everett	What they've done is they've taken the BRO3 and they've reduced it by a millimeter, which is, it doesn't sound like much, 42 to 41, but with a square case, 42 millimeters to 41 millimeters is gonna make an incredible amount of difference. Um, we're talking about, we're talking about a significant, a significant change. Um, they've also reduced the lugs from four and a half millimeters to four millimeters. If you've ever tried one of these on, you'll know what I mean, but the lugs on this thing are tremendous. And I think with this change, you're going to have just a much more manageable watch. I'm guessing I would like to try this on. I would too. Because I think if I'm right about this, this is gonna be almost a perfect watch. You don't want it to be... Well, that's not... Sorry, let me back up. It'll be a much more refined version of this watch. You want this watch to be a statement piece, you want it to be huge, and at 41 millimeters, it's still gonna be huge. But I don't think it's gonna be unwieldy in the same way that the original BR03 was. You still got the 430 or whatever, not 430, uh, yeah, 430 hour, which are date, which people don't love. I'm fine with it. But I think this is just going to be a much sleeker, much easier to wear watch. And a hundred percent is. So they've released this and what? All the colors. Eight different versions and they range from 3,600 to 4,300 according to worn and wound. Thanks Blake. Um, Yeah. I actually am pumped about this.
Andrew	This, the, the black with white print is my jam.
Everett	Just the regular black Dior beer. Yeah. It's, it's the one. Yep. For me too.
Andrew	I, I, I understand why these don't come on a bracelet.
Everett	With the silver case, right? You need that silver case. I don't love the silver case. No, no, the black case.
Andrew	You want murdered out? No, not murdered out because there's a straight murdered out one. That's like the, uh, that's like the Doxa beta. Uh, that's totally illegible. You like the white marks? Yeah. Black dial, white markers, black case. That is it. 4,100 bucks for that. The steel case in that version. So steel cases are actually 30, the black and blue 3,600 bucks. I'm wondering what's making, Oh, it's copper and I'm wondering what's making these other steel cases $3,900. I don't know. I don't know.
Everett	But for $3,600 a chunk of change. But this is a pretty interesting, it's always been a pretty interesting watch to me at that price point because I don't think you get anything with quite this level of iconic chops at that amount of money. You're getting a very high quality timepiece. with luxury components, street cred, visual interest.
Andrew	And just comfortable as all get out.
Everett	Yeah. I still really like that icy blue or sky blue, whatever they're calling it, BR05.
Andrew	The one that's diamond crusted?
Everett	You know, I'm a sucker for the diamond encrusted. No, I just mean the diamonds in the in the center link.
Andrew	No, this is all you all day.
Everett	I love that one, dude. Twenty one five. That's it. Yeah, you can pick those up on the secondary market, too, for I think like 16.
Andrew	I wonder I might have to look for these bureau fives and steel.
Everett	Yeah, I don't know where the closest retailer is. I know that they have them at several airports.
Andrew	I'm gonna, I'm going to Las Vegas next month. Oh, you'll be able to find one there. And I'm gonna, um, I'm gonna spend a lot of time. I'm going to leave my credit cards in my room, um, and go to hit some watch ADS. Put them in the safe. No, I'll just leave them free floating. Right? Like the, the housekeeper, whoever steals my card is going to spend less money than I would. And I can get the money back. So, uh, yeah.
Everett	Andrew, what's next?
Andrew	BR05. Next up for me, oh, we got some shocking here. I know you guys probably haven't seen this coming. Seiko dropped some new shit, as they do every other day. They're hard to keep up with. Three new Seiko Presage. Hiroshi dials, or the one that got me excited, an enamel dial. We have the SPB 403, 405, and 407. The Hiroshi dials. Hiroshi? I'm always really hesitant to say like transliterated words.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Um, and I don't, I don't read Japanese. So like, let's just come up with an English word for it. Um, is that way I can say it and not sound like an ass hat. Um, so the enamel dial, this like, all these dials are beautiful. And this is, these are all coming into the presage line, which is kind of what Seiko, I think used to replace the, uh, vacation of grand Seiko, right? Or they're, they got it. They wanted to have some upmarket, dressy sport watches. So they've got this presage line, which went up market from where it used to be. Um, so these are coming in at like 1500 to 1800 euros. The, um, Oh, where is it? Green is Seiko boutiques. The white enamel is the only, so these all share a case. They're all the same, everything, but for their dial, not, not quite.
Everett	So the enamel dials, half a millimeter thicker.
Andrew	Right. Because of the size of the dial, that case is slightly, slightly unique, but this is absolutely stunning. Yeah. Everything about this is like filling Grand Seiko void for me. This is dope. This like crescent moon balance on the seconds hand. Beautiful, like beautiful hands. Great markers on this. This is just the most simple, elegant case. This is it for me.
Everett	Yeah, these are terrific. You know, I've seen a lot of macro photos of these. I've not seen one in person, but I've seen a lot of macro photos of these. The crown on these is spectacular.
Andrew	Just slight onion to it.
Everett	The bracelet's terrific. All of the chamfers. terrific now you're you're paying for this right this is not an inexpensive watch for a seiko a non-grand seiko you're spending well into the thousands 1500 1750 and yeah 1800 that's some dough that's a chunk of change for a seiko for a seiko right but so 40.2 millimeter case 12 one thick for the white enamel
Andrew	11.6 thick for the Urushi dials, 48 lug to lug, 316L steel, sapphire crystal, 100 meters of water resistance. It's the 6R55 movement. These are just phenomenal. This could be a one watch.
Everett	Yeah, still too thick for me. I mean, for this... Look. It's still too much for me. Even the 11-6 on the Arushi dials, that's a chunk for this watch. And I have the same objections for the King Seiko, which I own. It's just a chunk of change.
Andrew	Yeah. Beautiful bracelet on these. Five link with polished two and four. Yeah, these are good. Got a chamfer on the inside of the lug. I'll say, though, that the in-link fitment doesn't look. As good as I initially thought it would when you zoom in on that macro. Yeah, that bums me out, Seiko.
Everett	It's got a bit of a gap there. Just a bit.
Andrew	Just wear it on leather, though.
Everett	Yeah, not me. Not this guy, Andrew.
Andrew	I like these. This is a cool release.
Everett	Sticking with Seiko, Seiko's won to celebrate obscure anniversaries, and they are now celebrating not 100, but 110 years of the Seiko Laurel. It feels like a bit of a reach for me.
Andrew	With that said... Why celebrate at popular increments?
Everett	With that said... I like what they've done here. So the Seiko Laurel, famously blue hands, red, you know, red accent, white tile, black markers. They have released, how many is it, Andrew? Seven, I think. Seven watches from their line, everywhere from Persage to Prospects, in a sort of homage colorway. And so what you get here is a Prisaj, you're getting a GMT, which I think is probably the winner.
Andrew	The Astron is the butt. Like this is the weird cousin who's like still biting at 18. That's right.
Everett	I think the SSK015, the Prisaj GMT is maybe my favorite of these. Yeah, it's gorgeous. For $625, but you can also get the new Alpinist GMT.
Andrew	Yeah, this Prospex is where it's at for me.
Everett	You can get a SpeedTimer Solar Chronograph, and you can get a very affordable SRPK41 Seiko 5 Sports with a terrific little 5-link. The Astron, I agree with you, Andrew. What the fuck? Which is a great, it's a GPS solar watch. Very neat in a laurel color way.
Andrew	You know, like we don't want to make any of these, so we'll just make it so grotesque that we won't have to.
Everett	I think it's a miss with the speed timer based on the fact that you're not really getting blue in there. Um, I guess I'll give them a pass because I don't have any choice but to.
Andrew	You could, that would have been a really easy blue add.
Everett	I think the Alpinist GMT is a fucking winner. It's a banger. Yeah.
Andrew	Yeah. Oh, it's a banger.
Everett	And that Prisaj GMT, man. What is the size on the Prisaj GMT? SSK 015. SSK 015.
Andrew	So all of these are limited to like sub 5,000 pieces. Uh, we have the, um, the presage is at 1500 pieces. And I think it's, it is certainly the most elegant of them all.
Everett	Um, 41 by 13, which is, is fine for this watch. That might be. That might be the one. That guy's, that's a sexy looking watch.
Andrew	Another at $2,000. Another at $3,500. They're all over the place.
Unknown	Yeah. What?
Andrew	Yeah. $6,000 for the sake of five sports.
Everett	Um, and. These are clearly numbers that are meant to capture predicted sales volume, right?
Andrew	You know what they didn't publish? How many they're making of the astronaut?
Everett	It's just that one.
Andrew	Yeah. That's the one. So that's the one they're going to add a little full-time line. It's still available. Yeah.
Everett	We made 12. No, they just made the one in the picture. Nobody's bought it yet.
Andrew	Yeah. These are cool. The speed timer's neat. It's neat, but it seems the rest of these seem like they blew the hands of the three and nine sub-dial problem solved.
Unknown	I think so.
Everett	I think otherwise, I think the speed timer is kind of a miss, but not that the watch is a miss, just it's a miss in this lineup. It's a cool watch, though.
Andrew	I really like the Seiko five version of it.
Everett	It's the color on the colors on that is great.
Andrew	That's a cool release. So they've released, what, 10 watches this week? Yeah.
Everett	That we know of.
Andrew	Yeah. Yeah. There's much, there's more in the pipeline. Andrew, what's next? Next up for me. It's a, uh, Australian company that isn't particularly new. Um, but it's new to me. It's a brand called the. I'm ready. Nullarbor. Nullarbor. No clue. Null Arbor, maybe.
Everett	But I've been looking forward to you making.
Andrew	N-U-L-L-A-R-B-O-R. Null Arbor. Null Arbor. Null Arbor, mate. Got that offensive. Sorry, but not. Sorry, Australia. No, they're too far away for it to matter if they're angry. So this is a Kickstarter brand based out of Australia, which is not known. Australia? Yeah, that's how when British and Australian people, when a word ends in a, they make an R sound. I don't have an answer for why. So I call it Australia. Fine. Uh, cause they call it Australia, um, which is not a country known for its watch brands. So this fellow wanted to kind of bring some Australian watchmaking and design to the forefront designed these three watches, uh, based off of the landscapes of Australia. That was a squeaky door. And he did it in a really tasteful way. You know, it'd be really easy to push too far into the stereotypes and the big design ideas. He created a very classically styled kind of 70s dive watch with a really simple sandwich dial with really good font, a few good colorways. produced a good watch and I think it's cool. Specked out it is, where are we, 40mm case, 12mm thick, 100m of water resistance, sapphire crystal, comes on a FKM rubber or nylon or with a bracelet, Miyota 9039 movement, And six hundred and some bucks right now on Kickstarter. These are cool. Like they're not they're not extraordinary. They're just well-designed watches. The one unique thing that he did rather than a traditional dive bezel, he included a compass bezel because this was supposed to be an outdoor bring it with you on your adventure watch. For those of you who don't know, you can use the sun and your watch dial as a compass. Um, so he used a, he added that as the bezel in lieu of a dive bezel. Yeah. Sort of an adventurer's watch. I learned today though, and I don't know why I learned it. It makes perfect sense. Um, that the methodology for, uh, determining mag or true North in this different in the Southern hemisphere. It is. Yeah. In that you use the 12 o'clock as opposed to your hour hand.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Which makes sense. I don't know why it works that way. Like I don't, but I, I acknowledge that it works that way. There you go. Yeah. I accept it. I accept it as truth. Uh, but a cool, a cool release from a company, from a company that you don't see a whole lot of, uh, out of Australia. Right.
Everett	Yeah. These are neat. I like the ceramic dials. This is, we're sort of at like peak micro brand right now, or maybe just past peak micro brand.
Andrew	I think we're just passing the peak and we're starting to get into a downturn.
Everett	Right. It's very simple to make one of the best watches on earth right now. First release, everything's perfect.
Andrew	Yeah. And we'll, we'll see too, if, if this brand can remain viable or if we see like just kind of a couple hits and then And then move on, which I mean, you as a, as a brand owner can attest to that as a lot of brands drove themselves out of business by making arguably the most, like one of the most impressive sub thousand dollar watches on the market. And then as a result, not actually being able to afford to produce it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You didn't do that. Nope. No, you didn't do that, but other brands have done that.
Everett	One of the most charming fellows I met in New York at Windup at this point a year and a half ago, two years ago, was Cornelius Huber of Circulo, a year ago, of Circulo watches. Cornelius is an unassuming fellow sitting at a table that looks like a startup. And then you find out, well, I've actually taken this company over for my dad. This is a, you know, going on 80 year old company with a fantastic history. And then you pick the watches up and you're like, Oh, Oh, these are really, really good watches.
Andrew	We talked about this brand pre wind up last year as a brand that we were most excited to get our hands on. We talked about this brand. We talked to this brand at wind up and then again, post wind up. That's how exciting what they're doing is. And when you say unassuming and charming, I thought he was just a fellow work in the table. That's right. Like, Hey, you're in New York. I'm going to send you a dozen watches. I'll pay you a hundred bucks. Just like show people my watches. He, cause he's just sitting there like every other brand owner is like getting out there and rowdy and like, like just getting it. And he's just like, come to me. What do you want to talk about? And then right as soon as you engage with him, he's there. He's, he's up to that energy. And then just goes right back into chill mode. It was, it was the coolest thing.
Everett	Circulus released their newest watch, which they're calling the Dive Sport. This is a titanium dive watch. It's a 42 millimeter titanium dive watch. Tell me more, you say. Okay, I will. Do it now. I was initially struck by this watch that it looked like something else I knew. I think what this resembles to me is the RZE Endeavor.
Andrew	Or like Helsin, those hard, bitey angles. Yes.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	That's right. But it doesn't quite. It's there, but it's not quite. It is a titanium watch. It does have these bitey angles. With that said, the execution on this is terrific. So what you've got is a grade two titanium movement. Titanium case and bracelet. And bracelet and S a steel probably or I don't know whatever an SW 200 movement whatever that's made out of. It's only got one dial color at this point, which is yellow. I'm OK with it. You've got these big like I'm going to call him Final Fantasy sword hands. Yep.
Andrew	That's exactly what they are.
Everett	Sapphire 500 meters of water resistance.
Andrew	So it's a little bit of a thick bitch.
Everett	And the thing that I found about The rest, I've not touched this watch, but the thing I found about the rest of Circulo's watch watches in New York was that they were all just tip to tail. Really, really, really well done. Yeah. I'm sure this one's no different. I love this watch. I think if you're in the market and this aesthetic appeals to you, this is almost certainly for a thousand dollars, almost exactly a thousand nineteen for a thousand bucks. you're not going to be able to beat this watch in terms of execution. That's a prediction, but I feel good about it.
Andrew	I could, I have, I have one immediate complaint that is just kind of how I, how I feel about watches. A 20 to 18 taper on a bracelet is not enough. Oh yeah.
Everett	Well maybe on the dive watch, but, but generally, yes, I agree with you.
Andrew	I get on a dive watch why it's a 20 to 18, but it's not enough taper for me. I want a 20 to 16. You're right. Technically speaking, I don't need a dive extension or any kind of extension on my clasp. I get that. But you'd like one. But I want one. I want the option to have like a fat day. I want one. It kind of bugs me a little bit that those aren't here. But barring that, I mean, the bracelet's going to be light as a feather, big as titanium, which is really the reason I want a 20 to 16 taper, is because in steel, a 20 to 18 is just a chunk of a bracelet. 20 to 18 titanium is going to have a really different feel. So maybe that'll be a little bit different of a sensation. But just give me a dive extension. It exists. It's not reinventing anything.
Everett	So as I'm looking here, I read somewhere that there was just a yellow dial, but as I'm looking, there's actually a sort of a jade green dial, a silver dial and a black dial.
Andrew	Recently released since the recording button got pushed two extra color ways. Right.
Everett	Uh, yeah. So sorry for that mistake, but there are several dial colors.
Andrew	It's a, it's a really good looking watch. Uh, I've been kind of like dipping my toes in the market of a dive watch, like a nice dive watch. This gives me some additional things to think about.
Everett	So you can actually get this with a hardened titanium bezel, a black DLC titanium or a petrol aluminum bezel. And you can... What is that? Green? Oh, you can mix and match dial colors and bezel colors. So if you want, you can get the the silver with the black.
Andrew	You can get the black with the gold. Get in on that now because brands aren't going to he's not going to want to keep doing that. Yeah. Doing like one builds.
Everett	Yeah, that's right. Delivery time two to five working days. Thousand bucks available now. Grade two titanium. 500 meters of water resistance, thousand bucks.
Andrew	Oh, that green. Oh, the the chapter ring on that green.
Unknown	Yeah.
Andrew	Terrific, right? Oh, goodness me. So it's kind of a crosshatched kind of meteorite looking green with some like it's petrol.
Everett	It's petrol, Andrew.
Andrew	Fuck off with like interesting distressing at the hour markers to get almost It's like rough edge in interior circle. And the minute track is yellow with full breaks for the five minute increments. Yeah. So it's just this minute track of yellow and white kind of intermittently breaking. That is beautiful.
Everett	Yeah. Again, I doubt very seriously there's anything in the rim in the range, this $1,000 range that competes with this watch for a $1,000 titanium. I bet that this thing's hands and shoulders above. What did I say? Hands? Hands. Uh, 13 and a half millimeters thick, which is big. And when you look at the watch, it looks like it's a bulky watch, but no booty on this. No, it's going to hook your wrist and sit right there.
Andrew	Yeah. And it's going to be super light, which I think a lot of the reason that, that people don't like chunky watches is because they're so heavy. Yeah. You know, like when you put an Invicta on and you get a arm workout on just that arm. Um, but because it's titanium, it's not going to weigh, but like, I mean, it'll, it'll weigh what any smaller dive watch weighs less even this, The page is not translated to English. This is in German still.
Everett	Well, it did translate to English for me. Andrew, do you have any other watches you want to talk about today? As it happens, I do not. In that case, other things, what do you got?
Andrew	I have another thing. It's something I've had for some time and I was actually kind of surprised that I'd never talked about it. So I, um, in my previous house had a magnetic strip on my wall. Like because that was where my prep surface was. I had a galley style kitchen. I had my counter space against a wall. I didn't have a counter to cabinet backsplash. I just had like three inches of backsplash. And so I got a magnetic kitchen strip to hang my knives. Cause I like hanging my knives.
Everett	Yeah, they're there. They're not getting dull in the drawer.
Andrew	Yeah. They're not getting like banged up and shipped in the drawers. Like I know some people, Everyone has a different thing that works for them for storing their knives or that maybe doesn't work for them that they just tolerate. Um, I keep mine in the dryer. Yeah. Cause that way it's also a fabric softener.
Everett	That's right. And I really like that like stonewashed finish.
Andrew	Yeah. That's smart. Uh, and they don't get wet so you don't have rust issues. You don't have to be oiling any of your high carbon blades. Uh, it's great actually. It's a really good method. Um, I know you keep your knives in a drawer and it horrifies me every time because you just have this like drawer of death.
Everett	No, no, we have a, they're in a rack in the drawer.
Andrew	You still have a drawer of death. I mean, your kids are old enough that they don't, but like I still have those tiny like periscope fingers in my house. No, I don't have that. Um, that's just, you know, like forks are dangerous. So anyway, I, I, I got to my new house. I needed to get something that I could put on the counter because my prep surface was now no longer against a wall. I don't like traditional knife blocks because I can't see the blade shape and I have a lot of like similar knife handles and I don't like having to, to play the like search. I'm, I know exactly where all my knives are. I don't actually have to search for it, but I like, I don't like having to look for it. I also have some irregular shaped blades. So it was just kind of a, I was like, okay, well, what do I do? I don't want to get one of those weird, like, uh, not silicone. Yeah. Those like silicone fingers, like brush blocks that you just shove it down into. Um, so I went on the hunt and I was like, Oh, this is a mag block. And what I went with was a wooden, stand so it's in the shape of a T with a wooden base and then a vertical wooden plank with a magnet built in the inside that I put my knives up against the magnet holds it's got I've got I don't know 12-ish knives on it and it is terrific I love this because it's freestanding, so I can kind of push it around on the counter. I can move it if I need the counter space. It sucks up against my, like my, I have a stepped bar island in my kitchen, so it stacks nicely against it. It doesn't tip over. It's never, never tipped over. And many heavy things have been thrown at it by both of my kids. I've never had a knife fall off of it. It doesn't offer so much resistance that you like have to two hand remove things. It's a really easy grab. This is great. If you're not satisfied with how you are storing your knives or if you're storing them in a drawer, heaven forbid, uh, or if maybe you're just looking for a change, this is the one, huh? I'll link the one that I have. There are hundreds of options out there. I got the cheap one because it was kind of a flyer. I'm like, Hey, let's see how I like it. I'm the next one. Cause this one's getting kind of a, a nice patina to it. I pro I need to pull everything off of it. Give it a little sand and a, and a re ceiling. Cause some of it's like water damage and, but it's like got a nice, it's just aging really nicely, which is surprising. Cause I paid like 40 bucks for it.
Everett	And aesthetically pleasant.
Andrew	Yeah. And you've seen my knife block. It's a, it's a great love it. Knife block. Uh, yeah, I, I love this thing and it keeps on my eyes except accessible and visible. So I can, I know exactly which blade I'm grabbing.
Everett	Love it.
Unknown	Yeah.
Everett	That's my other thing. Andrew, I've got another thing. Not interested. My oldest daughter, Betty came to me about a month ago and said, dad, I need a pencil case from school. to which I pulled my glasses off my face, clasped my hands and said, young lady, you've come to the right place. If you are a longtime listener of the show, you know, I am a sucker for storage solutions.
Andrew	You are, you have probably had more, no books. Number one, like media, we'll go multimedia. Number one, storage solutions. Number two.
Everett	I think that's right. Uh, I, I am a sucker for storage solutions. So, I went on the hunt for a cool... You didn't get the same one that you have? Interesting, high quality pencil case. And... I see why. I found a pencil case that is both... These two things don't often go together. That is both highly recommended by pen and pencil nerds and incredibly affordable and... Available on Amazon. There is a Japanese company, I believe it's called Lihit. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that wrong, maybe Lihit. Lihit? There is a company called Lihit. L-I-H-I-T. Yeah, heat? That has a ton of pen addict, pen people. Lihit Lab? Credit. Lihit Lab. And these things are available on Amazon. I bought both a compact pen case. They have the Lihit Lab compact pen case, as well as a slightly bigger pen case. And I thought the pencil case is the one I got. So both a pencil case and the compact pencil case. These things come. They're made in Japan. These things come. Made in Japan. and they are absolutely terrific. Materials are great. Organization is great. I was kind of blown away by how good these things.
Andrew	So the wide open would be a really good, like a travel hygiene kit. That's right.
Everett	You could use all those pouches. You don't have to use these things for pens or pencils, although you certainly can. The compact is a little bit short. Not so with the full-size pencil case. It's a good one watch travel pouch though. You could certainly store watches in these, the book type pencil case. Uh, I think I paid 20 bucks for these, which I bought a flyer. I wasn't intending to get myself anything. And then I saw this and I was like, Oh man, this is great. It's got a flap in the middle that folds double-sided. You've got zipper pouches, you've got little, um, slip things in a pouch, you can put thumb drives on it, in it you can put pens, pencils, all your shit. If you were like, I don't know, there is no shortage of hobbies or things you might want to carry that this thing would work for. And the quality is absolutely incredible. The zippers, the stitching. Are they like YKK, like heavy zippers? Yes. I don't know if they're YKK. I don't believe they are. But it's some sort of Japanese alternative. The quality is phenomenal. I got this thing and I'm like, I spent 32 bucks, 33 bucks on two pencil cases. And you know, not everybody needs a pencil case. But if you got a briefcase, get a pencil case, right?
Andrew	If you have a bag that you carry regularly.
Everett	That's right. If you are carrying around stuff for work, get a pencil case because the amount of things you can So now I have like at this point too much storage, too many storage solutions. I have to like rotate my storage solutions. But, um, I was blown away by how good these things were. If these things were 50 bucks, I would not feel bad about paying that for it.
Andrew	Wow. And they're 12. 12.
Everett	$20 for the bigger, 12 for the smaller. The bigger the wide open? Yeah, the bookcase, the book.
Andrew	Oh, I just have the compact and the wide open. Oh, yeah. But the wide open looks like a perfect. Toiletry pouch.
Everett	Yeah, it's got like a. What do you call that style of opening top open? Yeah, whatever. I was blown away the whole entire. So they actually have a store on Amazon. That's kind of a new new thing, right? But they've got a store on Amazon. I'm guessing all their products are phenomenal, but they've got like notebooks, random pouches, hangers, like this company's kind of rad.
Andrew	Monitor stand, book stand. That's right. Pencil cases in the shape of a cat. You remember those like slime tube things? Yes. That's kind of what it reminds me of. Yes. It's like the precursor to some other things.
Everett	table purse hanger thing that is incredibly compelling.
Andrew	The first time I saw one of those was when I was working at a bar, because we had purse racks like under the bar, like at your knees, like kind of at a weird place. Sure. And this lady like bellies up, throws her purse off of her shoulder. pulls out her rack. Like I'm talking the German guy with the hand burn, Indiana Jones, like pulls out her little wire rack, kind of does the weird locking assembly, puts it over the edge, hangs her purse. And I was like, honey, we're going to, we're going to be here a while. Aren't we? She was a pro. Uh, those are cool. Um, you know, most, most establishments have a place for you to hang your purse safely in front of, you know, but that's a nice thing to have for, yeah, totally. Yeah. If I carried a purse, I would also carry one of those in my purse.
Everett	It felt to me like something that would be useful at an airport.
Andrew	Or a restaurant or a bar or. Sure. Any number of weird places where you get stuck waiting.
Everett	Like if you're someone who commutes or works remotely and finds yourself at like you could use something like this. Anyway. Hotel lobbies. totally stunned by the quality of these pencil cases, especially at the price. Japanese made, uh, Japanese made. Is it made in America? No, they're Japanese made. Japanese made shit tends to be expensive. Yeah. And these were not. And, and the fact that they're available on Amazon kind of blew my mind. Like oftentimes you have to find like a specialty store, you got to go to a broker or Ollie or jet pens or something, you know, um, these, you just, Go to Amazon.
Andrew	What'd you buy through a broker?
Everett	I bought, well, I bought a Fortis.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	No, no, no. I bought a couple of different things through a broker. One of those was like a device. Oh, it was your G-Shock. I bought a G-Shock and I also bought a device for making a normal stereo work in my Lexus.
Andrew	That was the one I recall you using the broker for. Yeah.
Everett	Yeah. Which was really scary because didn't know what the product was, didn't know if it would work, didn't know anything about the process, got a package completely in Japanese, took it to the stereo store. They looked at me sideways and they're like, all right, we'll see in six hours. And then I came back and there was a working stereo. It was fantastic. One of the greatest things that's ever happened. America. Yes. I guess that's what we'll say. Andrew, anything else you want to add before we go today? I'm out of things, man. Hey guys, thank you for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the WatchClicker podcast. Why don't you check us out on the website, WatchClicker.com. That's where we post reviews, articles, and every single episode of this podcast. If you want to check us out on social, you can do that at WatchClicker or at 40 and 20 underscore WatchClicker on Instagram.
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