Episode 213 - Watches Roundup for November 24, 2022
Published on Wed, 23 Nov 2022 23:58:04 -0800
Synopsis
The podcast hosts Andrew and Everett discuss various topics related to watches, food, drinks, and life. Some key points include:
- Review of a YouTube video by a listener where they build a DIY watch club watch
- Discussion of a new Louis Vuitton watch prize program for independent creatives
- Coverage of several new watch releases like the Toni Seascoper 300, Varunchiri Blazer, and a smaller 38mm version of Hamilton's popular Interstellar "Murph" watch
- Criticism of a new Gerald Genta Mickey Mouse watch design
- Thoughts on the recent G-Shock and Casio watch releases
- Recommendations for a good home thermometer (the Braun NTF300) and an Asian cookbook by Jet Tila
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| Everett | Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? I'm good. I tried to catch you slipping on the beer, but you were... You're just not fast enough. You were on it. There's a few things in life that I'll never miss. And it's cracking a fresh beer. Opening a beer is one. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, no, I'm good, man. Actually, I am, I'm a little overwhelmed with life. Um, but everything's good. You know, it's all good shit. It's just, it's just a lot. We got, uh, our van, our minivan broke this last week and a half, about a week and a half ago. Um, and so I spent, you know, six hours at a car dealership last week because you can't go to, I mean, it just takes forever, right? Anybody. Yeah. No, just even if you know exactly what you're going to get, you walk in, I want that car, let me buy it. You're still there fucking six hours. Yeah. So got a new work, got a new rig. Did you get the lifetime oil change offer? Did they really push that on you? No, we didn't. They didn't push that on us and we did not get that. He really pushed that on me and I was like, look, dude, I understand this is your job and selling starts at no. I totally get those two concepts. Stop. It's not happening. Complete the transaction. No, we, we just, our car just came with a five year, I think, yeah, whatever, like five years of oil changes. So, Oh, I mean that it wasn't like an option. It was just in the package. Hmm. Yeah. So got to go to care. Yeah. Toyota man. The fact got a new whip, um, hybrid, we're hybrid drivers now, which I guess That's the thing. Good for snow. Yeah. Yeah. Heavy as fuck. I got, I got all, we got all wheel drive. I don't know anything about all wheel drive, but we have it. Also good for snow. Um, the car is a lovely like white pearl. Also good for snow or maybe bad for snow. Real bad for snow. Um, I also have a house full of sick people, which has been fine. And I am T minus, T minus, at this point, 30 hours or so from launch of a watch brand, official launch of a watch brand. So I am... Oh, also, by the way, you're holding down a full-time job. Yeah. And, and I settled a $4 million lawsuit today. So yeah, I, you know, I'm not complaining. This is all really, really good stuff. Um, but it's, it's a lot. Yeah. I came home tonight and I said, Kim, all I want to do is sit on the couch, have a beer and watch a movie or a show with you. And she's like, that sounds great. What should we watch? And I was like, Oh fuck. I'm going to record a stupid podcast. Yeah. No, I'm joking. Obviously this is one of my- Sorry to sit in a chair and drink a beer at my house and be totally unimpeded. by the whinings of sick kids. Forgive me. Andrew, how are you? I am also good. Also busy. We are on the tail end of being sick. I had the flu last week. It was very unpleasant. The little one had it with me. He not as bad as me. And then the big one and my wife had like mild cases of it. But we're on the mend. I got like legit influenza. There's nothing else. It could have been crazy. There's just nothing like nothing else fits the symptom set. Yeah. Cause it wasn't RSV. It wasn't a cold. It wasn't COVID. It was like just the only thing that fits the system. It wasn't food poisoning. Like the only thing that fits the symptom set. So we're all on the mend. Uh, and I started feeling better on Sunday. Tomorrow's Thanksgiving. |
| Andrew | Mm hmm. |
| Everett | For those of you listening today was Thanksgiving because you might or might not be listening. It's Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving. And I started cooking like that's the thing that I do. I love to cook and I just started it all. I started all my prep work. So my beer fridge is void of beer and is totally filled by the disposable aluminum trays filled with like restaurant prepped stuff. Like, so tomorrow morning when I wake up, everything gets its like final preps, gets hit with this last little bits. I have a pretty complex schedule of events schedule for Sam to follow where things are going in and out of the oven, things to do, two things while they're in the oven. Cause I have to work tomorrow night, which means that during the like peak cooking period, I'll be asleep. which is really just the ovening period. It's interesting that- Everything's prepped. Everything's ready to go. All she has to do tomorrow is follow the schedule of putting things in and out of the oven. She'll be fine. She's good at that stuff. Space the turkey a little bit. And perhaps, depending on my sleep, make mashed potatoes. Did you like those noises? What the fuck was that? And why? Don't worry about it. Um, I do, I do like making mashed potatoes personally. I think that's my favorite thing to make at, at Thanksgiving because it's very satisfying and it's surprisingly little work. And then you get to add little treats. Oh, my favorite's the gravy. Yeah. That's hard. Gravy's not hard. It's not hard, but it's like, it's harder than fucking mashed potatoes. Not if you're making good mashed potatoes. No way, gravy's hard. You gotta like make a roux, you gotta watch it. There's like things that go into a gravy. Mashed potatoes is just like squish, squish, squish. Have you ever used a ricer on mashed potatoes? No, but I read about that, you know, in my like lead up to Thanksgiving and I was kind of intrigued by it and I might get a ricer for that purpose. I've always, and I like to do like farmhouse rustic style mashed potatoes. So I skin on. like just chop them, boil them, put them back in the pot, mash them. I leave the heat on while I mash them for a little bit to kind of just evaporate off just a little bit more of that moisture. And then I start hitting it with my additives. I like, hear me out here. I like 50 50 by weight, red potatoes and Yukons. And I skin the Yukons and I do not skin the red, the red. I'm with that. Yeah. That's the way. That's the truth. But I also recently read about this ricer where you can get smooth mashed potatoes. And I thought, well, maybe I'll have to give that a try. But I do. I also kind of like having like, I like some chunk occasionally. Me too. I like some skin, like a little bit of chunk. Yeah. I also tried making Parker house rolls for the first time. |
| Andrew | Oh, okay. |
| Everett | How'd that go? Everything went great except that my yeast didn't proof. But at the point that I realized that my yeast didn't perform, and I think I probably scorched it, I think I probably tried to proof it a little bit too high of a temperature, because I turn my oven on, I like leave it at 200 for about two minutes. Like I set it to 200, it doesn't fully preheat. Oh, I see. I open it up, and that's where I put my bowl in to proof. So it's probably at like 100 and so degrees. You think you killed the yeast? I think I just got a little bit too warm, because it proofed when I was on the counter. But then I hit it, didn't fully brew, like it didn't rise the way that I had expected it to. I was like, oh, I think I scorched this. And then I finished it, right? Because at that point you've gone too far. You have to at least finish the recipe because everything's made at this point. It's just forming the rolls and just let's see how it goes. The flavor is great. Exactly what I wanted. But they're more like cinnamon rolls. A little dense. They're cinnamon rolls. and not Parker House rolls, which is a bummer, because I love me that like almost cobwebby texture of good rolls like that. So I bought some of those, but I'm still gonna dunk those cinnamon rolls in gravy. You know, back when I was making sourdough, the tip I got was to zap a bowl of water for many minutes to get it very, very hot. and then take like a tote, put your dough in the tote with the hot water. That was the advice that I got making sourdough. And I think... The moisture didn't cause an issue? Adding all that extra moisture and steam? Nope. And I think it's significantly less likely to negatively affect your yeast. So yeah, maybe next time. That's the first time I've ever scorched yeast with that method. I think I just I was making it with the boys, so I was pretty distracted. Sure. So maybe you left the pre just a, just a hair too long. Sure. Uh, well happy Thanksgiving you guys. Happy Thanksgiving. And we're, we're thankful for each and every one of you. Very, I'm very thankful for them. Yeah. For all of you, for you, for them, for you, you're here for you. That was weird. |
| Andrew | Whatever. I'm weird. And you ain't wrong. |
| Everett | Happy Thanksgiving and we are on this Thanksgiving. We are talking about watches. We're finally there. What are we like? Whatever. 10 minutes. 15, 20. We'll see. Happens. We'll see. We're talking about watches. We're going to do a watches roundup. We're doing two watches roundups in a row. Which happens. That happens. Um, and, and it's happening for a good reason here. One, some pretty cool stuff, but that's like, there's always cool stuff But two, we've got a very, very cool interview lined up for next week. Yeah, we do. So I'm going to tease it. I'm going to tease it. I'm going to leave it at that. There will be accents. So we'll leave it at that. Yeah. And perhaps watermelon. Maybe. We'll leave it at that. Maybe. |
| Unknown | We'll just have to see. |
| Everett | You'll just have to see. So with, with the scheduling of the interviews, uh, we were switching things around and like, well, okay, we're going to do, we're going to do another round up this week. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | We're going to do another round up this week. And that is what we're going to do now. And I thought maybe Andrew, if you'd be okay with it, I've got something I'm kind of excited to talk about and I thought I'd start. How do you feel about that? Okay. I wanted to start, actually, I wanted to start with something that a watch clicker person made. In fact, two somethings, but, but I'm just going to start with one of them. Um, Will, Daddy, the watch clicker made a video this week and it is a YouTube video. You can watch it on YouTube. There will be a link in the show notes to this. If you're so inclined, click on that. But Will made one of these DIY watch clubs, club, club watches. So he made the GMT 41 millimeter watch club watch and he videotaped himself doing it. Hang on. I'm going to interrupt you. Okay. Will, every once in a while, like does these kind of, he throws us these curve balls. And suddenly this video drops and we're like, wait, well, when did you get this? When did you do this? Where did you find time? And when were you going to talk to us about this? Like we talk about all manner of stuff in our lives all day long. And somehow you missed like this. You, there was an oversight. You spend hours doing this all day long. We talk and he's, and he, and he holds out on this. on something like this. He's a holder outer. So this is a longer, this is a bit of a longer video. Um, I think most of our videos come in at, well, I don't know, under 10 minutes. And when I say hours, I'm taking ownership of things. I don't rightly have any ownership. We're partners. That's right. So our videos are normally a little bit shorter. This one comes in pretty long. Andrew, do you know off the top of your head? |
| Unknown | 20-ish minutes, I think. |
| Everett | Yeah. So strap in. Strap in because it's really good. Watch jokes. Yeah. I actually think it might be, I think this might be under 10 minutes, but anyway. |
| Andrew | I watched it. It's really fantastic. |
| Everett | It could have been 20 minutes if I watched. It'll be real here. He does a good job with the angles and there's some challenges. It's almost exactly 10 minutes. Because it was just a lot. High praise from Andrew. Yeah. Anyway, really, really cool. I thought I would direct you guys to it. Like I said, link in the show notes. Also, there is a 5% discount if you use, on a DIY Watch Club kit, if you use the coupon code WATCHCLICKER5. Which we will get a small compensation in return for. That's right. It's an affiliate. It's an affiliate code. So it's important that we know. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're, we're transparent about that. Uh, so yeah, you're going to go buy a watch kit. You're going to type in watch clicker five. You're going to save five, 5% and we're going to get money. We get money. You're supporting our show and DIY watch club, which is cool. This is the second one of these that will has done. And both times I've been like, man, I should do that. It seems just like a fun project. Yeah. Even if I'm not particularly fond of the watch that I'd be building, I think it'd just still be cool to do. Yeah. Like maybe it's the kind of thing like you get for, uh, I mean, it's a little, it's a little spendier for a fledgling watch, like for a kid, you know? Sure. Yeah. No. And these things are not, are not cheap. Um, but, but they're also super affordable and you're getting like, You're getting a really cool watch out of this, so. Hang on, I'm pulling the price for you real quick. All right, it's something I should have done, but I didn't, and so. So for Thanksgiving, the GMT, $420 off of 700. The Black Pilot, 250 off of 385. But you're looking at like, generally between three, like three to $500 for most of these watches. Yeah. But you're also getting components that are commensurate to that price point. They're just not assembled. Yeah, that, that's right. Well, and, and you're buying an experience, but, but really premium materials. So the, so the GMT comes with the, um, Seiko automatic GMT, the, you know, the, the new, sort of player, a hot player in the GMT, affordable GMT world. You're just getting really nice materials, ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, all the goods. Yeah, I think these are fantastic. Man, these are lovely. And even at $700, you're kind of, you're landing south of what you'd expect because you're having to do the assembly, but you're landing south of companies who are doing very comparable and perhaps even not as good of craftsmanship. And you're getting a kit and you're getting like a watchmaking kit. This is these are not virgin tools or whatever, but they're going to be nice, nice enough to build this watch and to do modding. I did. So on that note, Andrew, I'm going to quickly I'm going to do an aside. I figured out some things this last week. So I have regulated. I have personally regulated about 90 Miyota 90S5 movements in the last week. Harder or easier than you expected? Both. In effect, I said to Christian exactly that. It's both harder and easier. It's easier in that once you kind of get a feel for it, you know what you're doing, it's not scary. It's not really difficult. You open it up and you've got a little, that little lever and you, you know, move the lever until you get the timing where you want and then you're done. Harder, harder in a couple of ways. You know, the movements that you make on this lever are very small. And I found that when you move the lever, It's very difficult to make small movements. So there's a friction point on these things, you know, like, like with anything that's held in place with friction, the levers held in place with friction. So, so it's held down by a screw and then it, and then it turns, but you've got to apply enough force to break the friction. And there is, it's razor thin, the margin is razor thin there. So once you've applied enough force to move it, it's going to move. It doesn't, it's very tough to move these things small. So like almost one of those tapping movement kind of things, as opposed to like just a constant pressure. Yeah. You know, I, I've tried different techniques to sort of lock this in. Um, and you know, I found the best way is rather than tapping to actually just apply very firm pressure and as gradually as possible to increase that, but even still very difficult that the tapping motion for me wasn't working. And that's something that I read about. I was not able to get it to move at all with tapping really. So, um, if you have any tips on this, feel free to message. Um, but yeah, it's challenging. It's, it was challenging. And also I've done it enough times now that I'm like, but here's what I was going to say. I realized. why people buy expensive tools. So I have like a $20, I can't remember what you call the type of tool, but a case back tool, one of the ones with the three pins. So you've got, you've got a rotator or a gear at the top that spreads the top two most pins and then another gear that independently moves the third pin on a different axis. So the top two move on the spread. on the X axis and the bottom one moves on the Y axis. Depth. Depth, sure. And these things, I've got like a $20 tool which has always been just fine. For one watch. That's right, for one watch once a month. If. Is fine. For doing all the watches in a short period of time, it's not good. But you know, when you look at the version tools, And I'm like, well, that same tool from a Swiss company is $275. And why would I ever spend that much money when I have this tool that does a very adequate job? Guess who's an owner of a Berzion case back tool. How much better of a job, let's say like relative to like a true side-by-side comparison. Obviously it was more enjoyable to use because it's finer finishing, it's better production quality, it's better materials. We're not just talking about use, like enjoyment of use. actual practical application? You know, I think, I think it is akin to like a Walmart bike versus a real, you know, small store bike, bicycle, right? You know, everything, it works exactly the same way, right? You shift the gears and it goes up and it goes down and you turn the pedals and it moves. It's like that, right? The inexpensive tool does all the same things, but nothing works as well. And it's finicky in ways that are really frustrating. You can't set it once and use it 40 times. Yeah. You have to adjust for every case back. That's right. And it comes out. So it's a huge difference. And so I wouldn't recommend it for someone who's occasionally modding watches or whatever, but, um, Gosh, it makes a huge difference when you're doing work like we're doing. I mean, it is a huge, huge difference. And so little things like that, now I'm realizing why people spend money on these expensive tools. So all that to say. Is this the press? No, it is. There's a term for this type of tool. Just link it to me. We'll link this because it has become Other thing. Yeah, I will. I will. Can we move on now, finally? Well, yeah. You've been talking. I'm really sorry. And I have something that's really cool I want to talk about. Do it. Louis Vuitton. This week has announced something. Very unusual. For a lot of reasons. |
| Andrew | Hmm. |
| Everett | They will be hosting in a biennial every other year. Watch prize for independent creatives. Yes. So what does that mean? Independent creative. So here it doesn't really, it's just sort of open to anyone in the watch world. Okay. So they have a, I have to find it. They, Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I didn't, Cut the quotes out specifically. So submissions are open to watchmakers, designers, entrepreneurs, recent graduates, and creatives from all around the world. As long as they're in the watch space, which I think is going to make this a really interesting Award, right? I mean, I don't, award isn't really appropriate for what this is. It's somewhere between a sponsorship and a scholarship. Yeah. It's, it's really interesting. They have a jury who will evaluate all of the submissions that they receive. And there, it's not just like weird celebrity types. We're talking Hodinke founder and CEO are on this jury, right? They got, they got into the, into the independence of the industry and to the people who are in touch with that to say, look, we want to do this thing and you are the people who are going to be able to curate this most appropriately. Right. People register online, they do their thing. When they win, should they win, the winner will receive a one year long effectively like business mentorship and resource ship experience funded by Louis Vuitton with everything from marketing to copyright to design to just like, hey, we'd like to, for some reason, invest in your business for a year. And then a year will go by and then they'll choose a new winner. This does nothing for Louis Vuitton as, as I can see it besides being a really cool marketing campaign. It's not like they're in the industry. Yeah, but that's, that's enough. I mean, like, I read the article that you sent on this, and I think it sounds like an amazing program, but it's laughable to expect this does nothing for Louis Vuitton. This actually creates, in some ways, a space where Louis Vuitton is looked at to be like an industry godfather, right? Are they trying to push themselves into the independent market? I mean, would it like... No, I wouldn't think so. I think rather what they're trying to do is to create a community that is bonded and united by Louis Vuitton. If all of a sudden you've got all these independent watch companies that are all sort of vying in this Louis Vuitton space, You know, Louis Vuitton, not a name that we think of as being associated with watches. I think Louis Vuitton is all of a sudden in the space in a way that maybe doesn't really make sense in an important way with the Cool Kids, right? These are the Cool Kids. They showed up and made themselves one of the most sought after Cool Kids. They're simultaneously The new guy and the senior quarterback. Right. Well, well, maybe, maybe that's not right. Maybe they are the ones who are grooming perhaps. They could be the sex predator. Cause like this could also be just an opportunity for them to steal a bunch of IP and launch their own luxury watches. It's interesting. I actually think it does sound very cool. It does sound like a great investment in the most exciting parts of the industry. But I think that that's, that is the way you look at this. This is an altruistic. Louis Vuitton does not do anything altruistic. It doesn't make sense. They don't even, you know, a company like, I won't, I won't just put this on Louis Vuitton, a company like Louis Vuitton, even, even their, their charitable giving is an altruistic, right? No, it's a tax write-off. Or, you know, perhaps a marketing opportunity, right? So we can say both things. This is really cool. But the article that I read suggested that they get nothing out of this, which is just blatantly false. Patently false. Yes. But they're not generating independent, like unique revenue from this. This is an expenditure. It's deliberate. It's calculated. But it's an expenditure. Right. Right. I mean, and a company of this size and this magnitude doesn't, doesn't spend money without a plan to recoup it. I'm, I'm intrigued by this decision, especially into this broad of a space. Yeah. I'm also interested to see what the Hodinkee and Louis Vuitton collab will look like. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | Can we talk about a watch? We should. So there's a watch that came out recently that kind of got me excited. And this feels to me, I've got some selections tonight that felt to me like very vintage 40 and 20. And so I'm, I'm a little bit excited about this and at least one other, there is a watch brand called to Tony. I believe I'm saying that right. Um, this is a watch brand that I believe just had one watch prior to now. And it was a big, ugly 600 meter, um, dive watch. It's fine. it's fine it's not ugly it's but it's not for me it's it's a little it was a little gaudy and a little so they've released a second watch which is very similar aesthetically aesthetically to their first watch if you look at it and then and then immediately look away if you like glance and then immediately look away it's like oh it's that same watch but it's not it's i think way way way better so they introduced a watch called the Seascoper 300. Like it's tit on ice, Seascoper. Which is, I believe the Seascoper is, Seascoper is the same name as their first, they've just changed the letters. So yeah, it's going to look similar. However, this is not a 600 meter watch, it is a 300 meter watch. And it's affordable-ish. And it's attractive-ish. So I think these are going for 1750, just under 2000 francs. Look, this is a Rolex, right? This is a Rolex lookalike, we should say. It's a crash between a Sub and a Helsun. Yeah, yeah. Actually, Andrew, that's a great call. I hadn't had that thought before, but I think you're right. It's super overbuilt. It's really utilitarian with all of the sub feels. That's right. That's right. However, there's some cool things here. So we've got a cost-certified SW200-1. We've got fantastic dimensions. We've got what look to be really phenomenal specs. So 42 millimeters, 12 and a half meter case, 300 meters of water resistance. Great looking finish, right? The finishes all around this thing look stunning. It might be a little big at 42, but I actually think this case is going to work great. They've got a blue bezel and a green bezel. So you've got kind of like a a Batman or a Kermit feel, great colors, interesting handset. I'm not going to call it a great handset, but it is a very interesting handset. And I say that in the best possible way. How would you describe that handset? Like, like calipers. Like the tongue, their tongue hands. The minute hand kind of looks like a tampon with two strings. tampon handset. Yeah, I mean, it's like a skeleton handled sword. Not unattractive, though. I mean, no, it works. It's, it's, it's different. I think this watch is cool. You know, for a subtle watch, right? I mean, let's just call it like it is. This is a subtle watch. That's fine. But it's got a great movement. It's got good dimensions. The finishing looks phenomenal. The bracelet and clasp look fantastic. This has got a quick adjust strap or clasp that is not, you know, two and a half inches long. Um, it, it looks really fantastic. No quick release bracelet. It's not cheap. It's not cheap. It's not cheap, but it's also not crazy expensive. I mean, and, and it's just your own thing for what you're getting, right? You're getting a sub homage that has some, unique aspects. It's got the components that justify that price point. You know my favorite part? Tell me. It's the porthole case back. Yeah, it's cool. Case back looks great. It's very deliberately designed as a porthole. There's a hinge, there's the two, not real locking mechanisms obviously, it's a sealed case back but the see-through case back is a porthole. It's a little on the nose, but I'm cool with that. I dig that. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | That's the one thing about this design that really stands out to me besides the, and I'm a little sorry about describing it as a tampon with two strings, but that's what it looks like. Yeah, that is, but it's also fun. So yeah, 2000 bucks. So take a look if you're interested in this kind of thing. Um, I think this watch looks great. Uh, no numbers on the, on the bezel, which I like. We've talked about that before when we talked to Tom Clements and I said, I'm not seeing this and I love it. I'm down for this watch. I don't like the stamp on the clasp. It's a little bit big. I like it, but it's a little big for me. I hear what you're saying. I like, I like the clasp. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | The size is great. I could go with a little bit more subtle branding on a clasp. Sure. Cause that's pretty big etching. Yeah. Andrew, what do you got? I see what you like about it, though. Just not quite it. I don't talk about something that bugs me, since I'm feeling a little negative today, apparently. Yeah, just fucking go. Let's do it, man. Give it to me. |
| Andrew | Gerald Genta. What about that guy? |
| Everett | We all know him. I've heard of him. He does some things. He definitely has done some things, for sure. The Gerald Genta Mickey Mouse watch returns. And now he plays soccer. Yeah, this watch is interesting. I get that it's a World Cup time of year. Yeah. I'm excited about that. I love that. So, and when we talk about Gerald Genta, we're talking about the brand, the Gerald Genta brand, which is owned by Bulgari. So when we talk about Gerald Genta watches, we talk about lots of things. In this case, we're talking about the Gerald Genta brand owned by Bulgari. Right. Which that was an important distinction to make. I'm sorry. No, you're fine. You're fine. I'm just, I'm here. I'm here with you. I'm hosting with you. Well, but here's what, here's what is, what makes me angry. And it's something, it's just, it's something that I don't, I don't get, right? We spend all of this time, all of this effort, all of this energy on looking for refinement of design, things that are simultaneously really disciplined and really playful and striking that balance of creativity against restraint, which I think is the hallmark of a fantastic design. You can see the explosion of creativity absolutely reined in by the restraint and the decisiveness of the designer. Right? You know, I think about any number of watches that are just absolutely beautiful. And you know... Many of them by Gerald Genta. Right. And you know that the designer... Like the, the person who came up with this design is sitting on a, on a committee board and people are like, you gotta get rid of this. You gotta get rid of this. And this person is throwing a fucking tantrum. You know it because they want their full idea to come to fruition, right? How many iterations of your dial did you come to? Oh, eight or there thereabouts. Yeah. And how upset were you every time? Yeah. And we're not talking about something crazy here. We're talking about something very svelte. We're talking about something very minimalistic, very deliberate, which is sort of what most watches are defined by. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | And yet for some reason it's okay to throw Snoopy or Mickey on these dials and be like, what the fuck is up? I, I just, I don't, I don't get it. I've, I've never understood the Snoopy on a speedy. Like there's just no, there's no world that I can make sense of Snoopy being on a Speedmaster dial and a Weekender dial. I just can't reconcile that relationship. And Mickey is the same way for me. I can't accept that the Gerald Genta brand is dropping a $23,000 watch. That is about the same dial design as a $12 Walmart checkout aisle watch. I just can't get with it. I don't understand it. And this, this isn't a play on nostalgia for me. This is a, just a strange, strange thing. It bugs me because any other dial on this watch would be fucking dope. If you just throw it on white, you can even leave the red markers. Get rid of Mickey. This is a, this is cool. You put Mickey on it. You've lost me. I don't get it. And if anybody out there does get it, I'm, I'm ready for it. Do you get it? Does this bother you as much as it bothers me? No. Oh, 100%. No, it does not. Um, you know, I think that it is, Don't act all fucking tempered right now. No, I think that it's whimsical and silly and fun. And if watches are anything, they should be all of those things. So I'm with you. I would never buy a Snoopy Speedmaster because it just doesn't appeal to me. But I am here for the whimsy of it. No, whimsy exists in different areas of this market. Well, we're all snowflakes, Andrew. No, a snowflake is a snowflake. This is, this is luxury. I like it when you get fired up. It's fun. It, it just, it bugs me at all. Every time I like, I see a, like a scroll in the gram and I see a speed master with fucking Snoopy on it and people are excited about it. I'm like, what the, what, what is happening here? You know what's fun? Cause these same people will turn their nose up at like, well, I think you should've changed the handset on this watch. Now fuck you. You know what's funny is when you sent me this link, I thought you were going to say nice things about it. Not a single nice thing to be said. I'm so confused by it. I just don't get it. I don't get it. It bugs me. Stay in your fucking lane. Your lane is haute horology. Super cool. Technical shit. Really innovative design. This is a strange cop out. It's the World Cup and here's Mickey too. Fuck. So I've got a brand that I'd like to talk about that I've never heard of and I can't pronounce. Tits on me. It's a sister brand. So this is a watch by a Korean company, which I think is fun. And the company I believe is Varun Chiri. And the watch is the Varun Chiri Blazer. And I probably fucked that up. I'm sorry. Kiri Varun Chiri. I don't know. You tell me. I think you're right. I think you're, I think Varenchiri is probably the closest word. Varen or Varenchiri. So yes. So the Varenchiri Blazer is a new watch from, again, from a brand that I haven't heard of, but with connections to folks in the watch industry. So in particular, started by a name, a man named JG Chin or, or Maybe there's another way to say that. Transliteration is trash. But they're a retailer, a watch retailer, in particular for brands like Yema. So this new watch, this thing isn't... I mean, if you looked at this thing, you're like, okay, that's a watch. But as you get closer, you realize, man, this thing is pretty cool. So the owner, Mr. Chin, of Varunchiri actually did the thing that we kind of poo-poo, and he polled people. He did surveys of a bunch of watch fans, so 750 watch fans, and came up with certain design and capability criteria that he applied in this watch. So one of those was to use a Miyota movement, because Jesus Miyota makes the coolest movements. So he's got a 4 Hertz Miyota movement. He's got fantastic pricing, so I think these things are coming in at $600. It's a great size. 38.5. This is very much a steel sports watch in the way of a perhaps a Datejust or an Oyster Perpetual. Beautiful sword hands, beautiful steel markers, beautiful dials. This comes in five colors. 38.5 millimeters wide, which is amazing, by 9.7 millimeters thick. So under 10 millimeters on the case, 45 millimeter lug-to-lug, Miota 9039, the no-date Miota, which is just a fantastic movement. Great size, great bracelet. this also has a quick adjust clasp in this case it is the two and a half inch version of the quick but at 600 bucks right um so this is a kickstarter uh this is a kickstarter watch they're available now there will be a link i think that you can get these on on pre-order for like 400 bucks 420 oh shoot i just had it 100 meters of water resistance. 420, yeah. I think these things are fantastic. I'm kind of into it. I mean, this isn't moving the needle, but it's got neat designs. There's this on the ReHot or the chaptering. I'm not sure what you'd call it or if there's a difference in this context. You've got this like Korean scribing. I read at some point what it was from, but my gosh, I think this thing is great. This is super affordable. Korean brand, which is interesting. It's got both like Swiss and Japanese styling. I'm kind of into this. I think it's really cool. It looks super interesting. We've got a brushed and polished bracelet and clasp that matches all the way around. Pretty blingy. The integration of the flip lock is seamless. It's awesome. Well, and this is off the shelf. But the use of it for the refinement of the watch was the right choice. It looks like a fully milled clasp. I don't know how you can state that's a fully milled clasp. It looks dope. Yeah, I'm into it. Five colorways. This is coming in. It's got like an emerald green, a teal, a beautiful sunburst blue, and then white and black. Man, I'm I think that this is just a very cool, affordable, exciting watch. You know, it's not even exciting. That's not the right word. It's like refreshing. This is a refreshing watch. And it's, I'm excited to see what the Korean watch market has for us over the next couple of years. We've seen a couple bangers come out and I think that that's probably the next emerging market. It very well could be. You know, Korea is a very interesting market in that, you know, 30 years ago, Korea was making shitty cars. And those same brands today are making the best cars in the market. So between Hyundai and its sister brand Kia, you've got like three JD Power and Associates 2022 car of the year. I mean, these brands reflect what I think is manufacturing capabilities that go far beyond what, you know, we would have expected was possible 20, 30 years ago. So they've got, obviously they've created an ecosystem an economic system perhaps or a manufacturing system or whatever in Korea that's capable of doing amazing things. So I think you might be onto something that Korea may be a potential hotbed source of really neat things, but also perhaps watches. Because within that there's this like spirit of the combination of this is how we do it with innovation, right? Like we're going to do it. This is going to get done. Yeah. And innovating simultaneously. The Korean manufacturing market never seems to get stuck in a rut. It is consistent this year. It gets better next year. It's consistent that year. It gets better. It's constantly improving. Its consistency is kind of unwavering. It's like it's shitty, shitty, shitty. Okay, okay, okay. Good, good, good. Very good, very good, very good. you know, and we should say, I don't know what, if any parts of this watch are being made in Korea, but, um, cause we don't have any, we don't have any understanding of that. And there are other Korean watch brands that I'm aware of that are mostly making homage type stuff. So it's unclear to me if this is a Korean watch in any meaningful sense of that word, but it is certainly a watch coming out of Korea. And I think that's fun and exciting. And I'm here for it. Most American watches are made in China, but reflect a lot of American ideology. Can confirm. Yeah. Andrew, what do you got? OK, next up for me, are you ready to talk about something that? Kind of harkens back to another one of our episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Australia is trying to get rid of the leap second. Yeah, what the fuck is this? You can't just get rid of things, Australia. You got like 80 people. Exactly. What? So this is... Come on, Australia. This is a... When I say it's a hearkening back, when we talked about what is time, we discussed leap years and leap seconds. And what it comes down to is that our interpretation or attempt to define time It was pretty inconsistent with how actual time works. Sure. There's, there's, there's some imperfections to, to plotting time on a completely linear, on a completely linear curve. And we settled on this method and then we realized, Oh. Is it okay if we just review really quickly what a leap second is? Cause I think everybody's aware of what a leap year is. Imagine a leap year, but in the concept of a second. Yeah. Right. Because the way we... It's a micro-adjustment. Yeah. It's a micro-adjustment so that we have just a leap year every four years as opposed to, you know, like a leap week. Yeah. Well, and unlike leap years, so leap years every four years, unlike leap years, leap seconds occur seemingly at random intervals. And in recent past, we've had negative leap seconds to correct over-corrections or perhaps to Yeah. Because we are, we attempted to define something that we don't fully understand and to control something that we don't fully understand, nor can we ever be fully in control of. Yeah. Right. Like we said, you know, winter starts on this day. Oh motherfucker. It was 70 degrees on that day. And then it snows at the beginning of spring. Like we just don't get to control certain things. And that's where the leap second comes in. It comes in to accommodate the fact that we're trying to define and pattern something that is otherwise unpatternable. So two questions. One, what exactly is Australia trying to do and how will, and sub part, how will that affect the rest of the world? How does that interaction work? And two, who the fuck do they think they are? Yeah, so that's the important thing. So Australia is gonna take this- We love Australia, by the way. I love Australia. They're gonna take this petition to get rid of leap seconds. which affect nobody. It's just an accounting mechanism that doesn't affect you. I'm not sure that's true. I think with our increased reliance on computers, on computing for everything we do, I think the leap seconds have the capability to cause really major headaches, which is the main motivation for this move. That's the way I understand it, is when we incorporate leap seconds, we can have, there can be, like I think a few years ago, Twitter went down for like three hours or something like that. I mean, who cares about Twitter? I probably shouldn't have even said that word because people would have, but, or maybe it was a different website. Let's just say it was a different website. Some website went down for a long period because of a leap second. So I think it possibly can affect people. their proposal. You look like you were about to fall asleep when I was talking just now. It's because it's, I understand and simultaneously don't. So the, the Australian proposal and they're bringing it to, what's the summit? |
| Andrew | Uh, I don't know. |
| Everett | I don't remember an upcoming summit in Paris. It's just, it's a Paris summit. That's where all the things happen. Their proposal is to rather than have, just keep track of all the leap seconds that occur. So continue this, this charade for 12 years. You're so salty tonight, man. I'm here for this. And then pause it for a hundred. Fuck it. And then in a hundred years, apply all the leap seconds. Because there, there, you know, there's the possibility of a negative leap second, right? So there could be, so, so theoretically under this proposal over a hundred years, it would be a major muscle movement that would potentially be a really minor muscle movement because of the very small variations that occur seemingly random intervals, both in the positive and the negative, that would ultimately cancel out. And rather than a single leap second that can put a otherwise very large social media network down for a period of hours, and what would we do without it? It would be a synchronized, all at once, change of clocks. Three seconds back So that's the idea, which is actually really reasonable rather than fucking around with it constantly and trying to make these micro adjustments as they occur. It's like, just, let's just, let's just ride this out. Let's see how it goes. And in a hundred years, if we're off course, let's make a minor correction. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Everett | rather than making 10,000 micromanaging adjustments over that time period. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | Cause we're not, we're not talking about, we're not talking about a big correction either. It's not going to be, it's not going to be, you know, March 14th again, 20 minutes, right? If this is going to be like maybe a minute, perhaps a hundred seconds at the absolute, absolute worst case scenario, 100 seconds. Yeah. Well, You know what, Australia, I think you're amazing. That's some innovation right there. You do you. I'm here for it. I love the American spirit of Australia. It's like, don't tread on me. I don't think you're going to offend somebody. No, but that's what it is. It's like, hey, let's quit. Let's quit worrying about this. The American spirit of Australia. Let's quit worrying about this weird minutia. This doesn't matter. It's okay. Let's stop being dumb. And let's Let's chill for a minute. And if in a hundred years it's a problem, that's their problem to deal with. And by the way, they'll figure it out because it doesn't matter. Take a break. Everybody take a break. No, I really dig this idea. And I think, I mean, it's a totally nothing idea, right? It affects no one. And it kind of just makes sense. Like, why is this even something that delegation has to plan a proposal. Perpetual calendar wearers everywhere rejoiced. Yeah. I've got one. Do we? This is a watch. This is a watch we both selected. And so... Yeah, we do need to talk about this one. And so we can talk about this. So a few years ago, there was a movie. It was called Interstellar. It had Matthew McConaughey in it. |
| Andrew | Is that how you say that name? |
| Everett | McConaughey. Yeah, that's the one. That movie featured a watch, two watches, really, one of which I own, the other of which being the watch we've lovingly referred to in the watch world as the Murph. The Murph came out I think in 2018 or 2019. 2019. 2019. It was contemporaneous with the Movie, wasn't it? I think just afterwards. I think just afterwards. It was proto'd for the movie, wasn't it? It was. So the movie had a watch that didn't actually exist. So the watch was made for the movie. Hamilton made it kind of a one-off. They've done this before. And then people were like, where the fuck is that watch, Hamilton? And so Hamilton was like... We got you. Yes, we will. Talk about release, right? That's right. If you could drop the Foster, like I could do some short films and maybe get some Foster representation in there and then... We'll just see what happens. Let's see if everybody just begs us for it. I don't think that's going to happen. And this watch is really cool, you guys. Can I be a brand ambassador? Yes, you can. The Murph is one of the, I would say, more beloved Hamiltons because it's cool, right? It's got some really incredible details. Because it was beloved prior to its release. Prior to its existence, it was loved. And they did a really good job with it. with the actual watch that people would wear in ways that are fun and not tacky. A lot of these Bond watches are tacky in ways that are kind of weird. This wasn't that. This was really tastefully done and really neat and an homage to a film that a lot of people really liked, but in ways that didn't feel overt or over the top. So fantastic watch. One big problem, it's huge. It's appropriately sized for a pilot's watch. 42 millimeters. It might even be on the small side. But actually, I don't want a pilot's watch. I just want a watch that's going to be easy to wear. And the Murph is too big. For me, I found that it was too big. So Hamilton, being the amazingly accommodating company that they are, has released just this week a 38 millimeter version of the Murph with an H10. Fucking A. 11.1 thick. This is a killer watch. This is it. Yeah. If they could, if they could do a white loom instead of vintage loom. That's the only objection I have. That's the one. Yeah. That's the one. That is the only objection I have to this watch. $895. Cheap. Cheap. Well, okay. So not cheap, but fucking A, certainly not. I mean, this could be a $1,500 or a $2,000 watch. It could be. Yeah. What's their H10 based off of? What are they using as their foundational movement? I think H10's a 2824 that has been modified to, so lower Hertz, but longer power reserve. Yeah. Cause it's an 80 hour power reserve. Yes. |
| Andrew | Yes. |
| Everett | So they, 21.6. Yeah. That's right. So they basically reduced the beat rate in the interest of a longer power reserve, which as we've talked about on the show a number of times, Andrew thinks it's silly because he only wears watches for a day or two at a time. I agree with him, but I think for a person who wears just really one watch or perhaps even two, this is a great thing. I love the H10 movement. I don't personally have the need for it like Andrew, but because I'm a reasonable person, I can appreciate it for what it is. I'm not a reasonable person. It doesn't do it for me. It's cool, I get it, but it just doesn't Doesn't rev my engine. I think this watch is really cool, man. I think that this is, uh, considering it's not doing anything, it's not doing anything. It's just smaller. I shouldn't think this watch is so cool, but it's like, yeah. But they sized it right. They sized it consistent with what the people want right now. Right. Which is smaller sizes. You know, the 36 to 39 space is where I swear the money's at money. That's what that is. That's where the money's at. That's where watches are working right now. You know, we see success in 40, 41, 42, but those are big watches right now. We're not, we're not on the large scale dealing in 44, 45, 46 anymore. We're dealing in really small, refined, like I said, 36 to 39 zone. You know, I talked recently to the owner of a micro brand, and I'm not sure he would be comfortable with me, me sharing this. So I won't tell you exactly what company is. I will tell you that the name rhymes with Shraven and also starts with an R. But He said something really interesting to me, this anonymous brand owner of this anonymous brand, that there's actually a market vacuum in bigger watches. There's a huge market vacuum. Right now, there's a market vacuum in 42, 43 millimeter watches, which I think is interesting. This person, obviously, fantastic watchmaker, has an a ton of really good watches in the market that would really appropriately exist in that world. That's right. Yeah, that's right. So it's interesting. It was an interesting thing to sort of wrestle with, because when we started this Andrew, just a few years ago, and even before that, when we were really getting into watches, it really felt like there's this dearth of watches that are 40 and 20, right? Like 40 was small. And that's right. That's right. And so we've, the industry has shifted so much that there's now a vacuum in those historically, like the standard size of watches. This is an interesting idea. I do like what Hamilton's done here, but now that we've hit this saturation point, you know, I think, I think we're just going to see, I think these next five years are going to be interesting to see where things go. sibling releases at 38 and 42. Yeah. We're, I think we're going to see a lot of that over the next few years where, Hey, this is the same watch at 38 as it is at 42. And we're going to see, I think maybe some, some boring designs that lend themselves to being able to be scaled up and down like that, because there's something to be said for something designed deliberately for 42. Right. You can you can work. You've got more space to work with. You've got more space to design with. You've got in a 38 you've got to be a lot more diligent and respectful with the space that you're working with. And I'm concerned that that will lend itself to being boring or the worst case scenario is we're going to see a lot more bezel. Yeah. To accommodate single size dials in a 38 and a 42. Yeah. I think that's the wrong way to go. That's the wrong way to go, but we're going to see it. Yeah. We're absolutely going to see it. Because it's easy. And it's cheaper. Yeah. Right. We're going to see new brands who are trying to capitalize on the market of now against this market that is kind of being untended to because everyone's tending towards, Oh, we want watch a smaller and we want to watch a smaller. Nobody's carving out their space and like, no, we live in the 42 to 44 space. These are the size of our watches. This is the size they will always be because a lot of the brands that we generally talk about are chasing the market or leading the market, right? Right. They're trying to spearhead it or they're right on the heels of that spearhead, right? They're not the spearhead, but they're the, you know, the sides of the spear as opposed to the tip. They're still the cutting edge, but they're not the, you know, the pointy part. Uh, and no one, no one's saying, Nope, this is where I am. But there's brands that are out there that are saying that. Yeah. But by and large, we're seeing a lot of shift and a lot of, uh, I think the nimbleness of the small brand community is, is a little bit of a weakness in that like controlling of the market. Right. Yeah. Cartier is doing what Cartier has been doing forever. Rolex is doing what Rolex has been doing forever. And I don't think small brands can do that because they're not those brands. They have to follow the dollar. Because if you show up and you have something that nobody wants and nobody likes, you don't survive. So we're going to see that nimbleness as a weakness. It'd be cool to see some brands that like, and I think notice is a good example of this. Notice can have unsuccessful lines at this point in small quantities, right? I think, I think there's brands out there in this space that can afford. Oh, I see what you're saying. To have, To take some risks. I mean, Christopher Ward is maybe a better example. I think, I think probably, probably a much better example. They can have skews that just exist to fill that void because they're gaining so much in other categories that they're not going to have these lost sales in this category because they've got something there sitting ready and on hand. which is part of what makes this space that we live and work in so challenging is that it has to be so simultaneously cautious and innovative. Yeah. Well, I mean, not to take this back to Foster, but, but, but to do so, but to, but to, to do so in fact, uh, yeah, I, I, we couldn't, Foster couldn't afford to have a watch. be released. So if our second watch was a meh, uh, it would probably be your last. It probably would. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting. Um, it's interesting to, to think about that, right? When do we get to a place with Foster where we could have a meh watch or, or a watch that was perhaps not going to be the tip of the steer, but just kind of tip of the spear, but tip of the steer is different. It's his nose. Or something wholly different that you don't want no part of. Yeah. So, yeah, you know, we do need to see some of these more powerful brands pushing watches that are challenging in a way that's risky and risky, meaning, well, this might not be a huge seller, but this is a watch that's interesting. But Christopher Ward has plenty of those. |
| Andrew | They have plenty of watches. |
| Everett | And I'm just like, what? You're going to release an hour time and also this like in the same week. Okay, cool. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Bold move. Andrew, we have talked about a bunch of watches. We've talked about a bunch of watch things. We've even talked about things that are only vaguely related to watches. Is there anything that we haven't talked about today that we need to? Hmm. Oh, I talked about the, uh, Sherald Jenta Mickey watch. Yeah, we did. Okay. Then I think, I think, I think I've nailed all the, the things that I wanted to hate on. I read it. I read an article, uh, in preparation for this about the five best, uh, G shock releases of the year. I can't say I argued with any of the picks, but I was also kind of like, We've talked about a lot of these watches and they were exciting at the time. Yeah. But looking back on 2022. You know, we've been going for an hour and 10 minutes, which is a long time, but I do think so. Two roundups in a row, a set of watches has been on our list, and I think we're at risk at the risk of passing over these two watches for a second time at the risk of I think we should talk about a couple of new Casio releases. Oh yeah, because the second time in a row we've had this on our list. Let's give these guys a chance. So, Casio has released two. Look, this isn't a huge deal, but Casio has got an A1000 model, which is kind of a famous Casio. And they've released this thing in two color ways most recently. So A1000, you'll know the case. It's kind of like a... It's a little bit beefier F91. It's a beefier F91. It's got like a really octagonal case with kind of sharp angles. It comes on bracelets, probably awful, terrible bracelets. Just terrible, but also so good all at the same time. It has lugs. Finally. This watch has lugs. which your F91 does not have lugs. However, my F84 does have lugs. Yeah, it does. But the A1000 has lugs. And they've released two versions of this. So one of these is a blacked out rag and bone collaboration. And the other is a gold with a mesh bracelet version of these, not collaboration. And I think these are sexy, man. I think in particular the Rag and Bone collab is got some appeal to me because this is like a cool collaboration. I'm not a huge Rag and Bone guy or anything, but I think that's fun. I think this is like the kind of thing you could pick up for not a lot of money and just have, and it's always going to keep good time. These are expensive though. $179. Yeah, these are expensive. As excited as I am about this design, there are other Casio's. Yeah. That fit the bill. And the Rag and Bone's $250. Yeah, for under, well under $100. That's right. For $50. For $9. I would... I get this, I understand the pricing, but... I would expect that both of these are going to be better watches than a $15. a $15 a 1000 or a $30 a 1000, but they're probably not going to be $225 better. So so you're paying, you're paying a lot of money for what these are, I think if I had to guess, but what but whatever, it's just money, but but also it's just money. I just bought a $45,000 car, Andrew, who cares? It's $250 watch. Let's do it. Sapphire crystal on a Casio is Yeah, it might be worth the price just for the oddity. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's it's interesting. There's people that have world timers that they've modded with the same amount of money. Fuck it. Yeah. There's also people who have world timers who just squirted olive oil on that bitch. So these are cool. Oh, shoot. Affordable. Oh, who did it? Affordable risk time. Had a post recently like in the last two weeks with a Santos and a world timer side by side. I was like. That's how you do it. My man. Like he's totally speaking your language. I went after his post I was holding him side by side my hands and I was like. Yeah. Yeah. This is my travel watch set. You should double wrist them. I feel, I've worn watches on my left wrist and I do not like it. Same right wrist for me. I, I've done that a few times and it is awkward as get out. Since we're talking about some, some wrist, uh, switch hitting. Um, I gotta say the most unexpected enjoyment I've gotten from my Santos being that I wear it on my right wrist, I get to see the crown a lot. Oh yeah, which a normal person doesn't get. Exactly. A normal person rarely gets, you have to, that's a weird angle to try to point the crown at your face. I see it all the time wearing it and it is, that's, that's experiencing it regularly and looking back to my first experience with that watch. That's maybe one of the things that like really did it for me was that sapphire inset into the crown. Cause it's gorgeous. It's this, it's this color experience that you'd never get when you're wearing a watch. You see your crown all the time, but you never look down at a jewel in your crown. I enjoy it so much that I've started looking for, real tentatively, to get one of the XL100, like pointed sapphires, and to see if I can replace that crown onto my watch. Would you please, for the love of God, have a professional do this? No, I won't do it myself. I'm just picturing you with like tweezers and super glue. Tweezers and super glue? It's fucking Sawzall and duct tape, man. Uh, no, but I've started looking at it and seeing at the, at the practicality of that, which, which I won't, I won't do because this sure, you know, but that would be cool. Andrew, other things. What do you got? I got something. So I, can you please have something exciting? Cause I, the thing I'm going to talk about, it's not exciting. It's not exciting. I have a fun cookbook. Oh, that's exciting. And for those of you who are somehow unfamiliar with jet Tila. He is a chef and TV personality. He's got numerous successful restaurants. He's on cooking shows. He's everywhere, right? Like, this is a guy that you know. He's homies with Alton Brown. Just go watch Cutthroat Kitchen. You can't watch five episodes without seeing Jet. Okay. So he has a cookbook. Cook book, but he's got a cute butt too. He's got a good cook, but a hundred, 101 Asian dishes. I cook pork butt all the time. 101 Asian dishes. You need to cook before you die. I maybe should mention for those of you who somehow don't know who he is. He's an Asian fella. So it makes sense that he's making an Asian cookbook. Okay. So he starts out like in this really approachable, um, Oh, what's that vegan cookbook that I had? There was this vegan cookbook. It was like fucked up cookbooks or something like that. Like it was just like their whole, their whole shtick was that in their recipes, they're cursing. I like that. Um, he has that approachable feel. And he, in this really approachable and easy way, breaks down Asian cooking. Not just by like Asia, right? Because Asia is an enormous place with extraordinary diversity. Some might call it a continent. I mean, they wouldn't be wrong. But his whole thing is like, look, the reason your Chinese food and your Korean food and you're like all of your your various dishes taste the same is because soy sauce is not the universal Asian ingredient. Using soy sauce and ginger is not how you make Asian food. In fact, Asian food isn't really a thing. Right. So he's really deliberate about breaking down these different flavor profiles from different regions within this enormous continent that is varying from nigh on Africa. Sure. All the way to the Pacific ocean, right? We have this just huge geographical region that in, in most of our minds in the culinary world is distilled down to Southern China. which is not the case. So he's super deliberate and really easy going about, look, if you're, if you're trying to cook for this region, these are the flavors that you're going to find this region. These are the flavors that you're going to find. And he kind of spreads it out so that you, you, you get an idea of the flavor profiles throughout these many regions. and then has 101 different recipes that are all super simple. So one of his, uh, like my, one of my go-to, I'm going to make Thai food, is drunken noodles, also known as pad ke mao. My favorite, my favorite Thai restaurant. That's the way, that's the way I always go to. It's super easy. All of his ingredients are, If they're not available at a local Asian market, they're definitely available on Amazon. And they're they're not crazy. And so not only do I really like this cookbook because it's well illustrated, it's easy recipes. It's not like 24 hour cooks. It's like 30 to 40 minute cooks. It's broken down to stir fry, grilling, noodles, soups, some sushi. salads, dumplings, which are one of my absolute favorites. Same. I can live on dumplings. Same. And then sweets and drinks. And then beyond that, he's got like, okay, you really want to take it up a notch. Here's some sauces. Here's some broths, some stocks and ways to take this from like, oh, this is good to like, this is good. Yeah. This is killer. I love this book. And it's a cool dude who like I have, like I see him on tons and tons and tons of television shows. And I was like, I know you jet. I'm excited to read your book. He doesn't know me. We're not friends. But now I cook out of his kitchen. And you know him. Yep. Uh, so not totally off topic. I recently was talking to a longtime listener of the show and we were discussing the possibility of a 40 and 20 tour. perhaps where we record episodes on site in different places. And it came up that perhaps we should record in different places at different Chinese food restaurants, because I'm a big fan of Chinese food. I like finding good Chinese food places. There's like two of them. Oh no, you're thinking like a tour. That's right. So we go to whatever, Maryland perhaps, and record with someone there at a Chinese restaurant. We were talking about this. It was a very goofy conversation, not serious at all. But in the course of this, I said we could name the series Watches and Wontons, like watches and wonders. But I think the Travel Channel might be down with this. So yeah, no, I think so. We need to pitch this. Maybe we screwed up by putting it on our podcast. We've we've lost. We've lost the IP here. There was a There is a show on Discovery, I think, and this guy just like tries to seek out, uh, like mythical adventures. It's like Destination Unknown or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I know what you're talking about. And when I watched that for the first time, I was like, how the fuck did he sell this? How do you get this job? Yeah. Right. Cause this guy, he's, he's not, he's, he's charismatic. He's, you know, reasonably attractive for a dude in his mid forties who's, Just a little overweight and you know, like clearly not a model He's an intelligent fellow, but how do you sell this? Like where do I need to go to pitch like hey, I'll host the show whatever you have. I'll go anywhere I'll do anything. But if you like you want me to go in a wetsuit and dive and like pick up Sea urchins I'll fucking do that. I don't care what you want. I won't even write it. Just tell me what to do and I'll do it This guy just goes and he tries to like find these mythical things that he knows he's not going to find. Yeah. He's not blowing anything out of the water or doing anything like incredible. He's just making lots of money doing fun shit. Even if he's not making lots of money, even if he's just making okay money, traveling the world, eating good food, they're like, Hey, we're going to go look for the remains of Amelia Earhart. Don't nobody know where that shit is. And if they did, they aren't bringing a Discovery Channel camera crew with them. I'm salty tonight. You are. Andrew, I've got another thing. Do me. I apologize in advance because it's boring. It's boring, but it's so good that I wanted to talk about it here. So we've talked about a lot of fun stuff. We talk about podcasts and those talking about movies. We talk about knives, flashlight, manly things, cookbooks, cookbooks. We talk about fun things. This is not fun. but it has been a big thing in our household. This has been a big event for us. This has improved our quality of life in meaningful ways, especially recently. So I have owned in my adulthood, let's say probably about 20 thermometers and they're always terrible, right? Maybe 10, you give me that look. I don't know how many, I'm just guessing. Well, but the thing about a thermometer is they're cheap. You buy them for like five or 10 or maybe, maybe you get, get crazy and you spend 15. Uh, and they're annoying. Like the mouth thermometers are annoying. Um, we've had, we, uh, a few years ago we bought a thermometer that you like rub the forehead with and yeah, it's irritating. It's irritating and not good. You have to take four measurements. That's right. So we've had lots of thermometers. None of them have been good. Our thermometer recently broke. We had a thermometer and it was just a thermometer and it wasn't good and it broke because it was shitty. And so I tried to figure out a good thermometer. I want to buy a good, easy to use home thermometer. Did you get one of the rectal ones? I didn't, but that was in the cards. No, I bought a thermometer from a company, a German company, a famous company, a very good company called Braun. Braun. Braun, which is a great name for a company, by the way. I bought a Braun thermometer. This is the NTF 300 US Braun no touch forehead thermometer, and I was a little bit skeptical about a no touch thermometer, right? Some hospital grade shit, man. So this is not expensive, but it's not cheap. It's like I think I paid 45 bucks for this. It's available on Amazon 38 right now. And this thing, I assume it's going to last a reasonably long time because it's... You'll change the batteries in it before you get rid of it. I think that's right. This thing's phenomenal. It is phenomenal. So through COVID, we've used shitty thermometers. I feel like I missed a significant portion of the last two and a half years having used shitty thermometers because as soon as I got this thing and I turned it on and I took Wes's temperature, it was like, bruh, what have I been doing? Go get a good thermometer. I think that there's a few thermometers that are really popular that are kind of in the same price range and do really similar things. So I'm not saying this thing is better than those because I haven't tried them What I am saying is this thing is going to work. If you just get one of them and you get this one, you're going to be happy with it. Uh, man, I didn't know how. So I say this as my son has had between a hundred and a hundred, literally five degree fever over the course of the last three and a half days. Um, and so we've been using it a lot. It is such a joy to use a nice thermometer. It's easy. Nobody has to stick it in their mouth. Nobody's waiting. It's instant. It seems to be pretty accurate for what I can tell, at least accurate enough for government use. I mean, this thing is, gosh, I was like, why have I not just gotten a good thermometer a hundred years ago? Also the kids love it. I dropped off a strange grocery order at your house today. And when I walked in, was met by my very sick son celebrating a 100.2 fever. Yeah. I was like, neat. So an hour after that, he was at 103.7. Got it. He looked, he looked rough. |
| Andrew | Yeah. |
| Everett | He's like sweaty. And I could tell how clammy he was at a distance. And I was like, back the fuck up. Please do not come near me, child. He got whatever he had the same shit that I had. He's rough. So, uh, get a thermometer. We're going to have his link to the show notes for this one. We are not getting affiliate links for this. Although I feel like the way I've talked about it, we should try, I'm going to call Dita Roms and say, hey, homie, can you give us some money? This thing's fantastic. He never gets that call. It might be so like startling to him. Oh, I think Dita Roms is dead. Just not to be smirches. But for weird phone calls, I had an interaction with a fella recently who about two days prior to my interaction with him, he had an interaction from the U.S. Secret Service. Oh, boy. Because he somehow made a direct phone call to the White House Situation Room. Nice. Which, like, when I learned that information, I was like, how can a person call that phone number? Did you have, like, a certain amount of respect for him at that point? Given the context of my interaction with him, no. But it was like. I get that that's an unlisted phone number, right? You can't just randomly get there. But why the fuck is that a phone number? How is that not like it's a bat phone? You pick it up and it rings somewhere. Like, how how can you call it? I imagine calling Dieter is is similar to that. Like he gets a phone call. He's like, who the fuck's what? This is real. I got to answer that shit. Hey Everett, what's going on? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Andrew, I think we've done it. We have done it. As we do. Do you, do you have anything you'd like to add? Sorry I was so salty. No, don't be sorry. Don't ever apologize for that. Let your salty flag fly. |
| Andrew | It happened. |
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