Episode 173 - Watches Round Up
Published on Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:16:07 -0800
Synopsis
This podcast episode features a lively discussion between the hosts about various watch-related topics, including:
- The Oak & Oscar watch being worn by the US men's curling team at the 2022 Winter Olympics, which they see as a cool example of product placement from a microband.
- A new Q Timex 1972 reissue watch with a unique barrel case design and vintage-inspired lume that polarized the hosts' opinions.
- The new Zelos Spearfish watch featuring the La Joux-Perret G100 microband movement, which the hosts appreciate for its quality and value proposition.
- A humorous rundown of a Fratello article discussing the different stages of a collector's relationship with a watch, which didn't resonate with the hosts as they rarely sell their timepieces.
- News about a law regulating the criteria for watches to be labeled as "Glashutte" made in Germany, which the hosts view as gatekeeping.
- Their takes on articles highlighting the joys of collecting affordable microbrands and experimenting with designs from independent watchmakers.
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| Unknown | Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420 The Watch Clicker podcast with your host Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? |
| Unknown | I feel like you jumped, you jumped me a little bit there. |
| Unknown | Did I? |
| Unknown | Yeah, you came in like a hot. Yeah, you came in a little hot. You jumped me. No, I wanted into my beer. I'm fine. Uh, yeah, I'm doing really well. The, uh, actually that's not totally true. I've like, pinched a nerve or something in my back, and so that's painful. |
| Unknown | Is it the sex swing I got you guys? It was the sex swing, yeah. |
| Unknown | I told you to start easy. It's a nerve pincher, amongst other things. It's what it's called. It's called the nerve pincher. The nerve pincher, yeah. No, but other than that, I mean, that's sort of like benign physical discomfort. |
| Unknown | But yeah, it's good. |
| Unknown | Work is good. Everything is good. Consistent with your advanced age. Right. How are you? Good. It was a great weekend, right? So we're recording on Tuesday the 15th since the day after Valentine's Day and two days after the Super Bowl. And that was one of the best Super Bowl experiences I've had in a long time. The game was good. The halftime show was good. It was an awesome Super Bowl. And who saw that Super Bowl coming? Yeah, nobody. Not even those teams saw that Super Bowl coming. |
| Unknown | It's just a really good game. |
| Unknown | It was a great game. It was competitive. Unlike a lot of Super Bowls that we've had in the last decade that are very one sided, it was competitive. Great halftime show. I was pleased. I had a great weekend. |
| Unknown | Hallelujah, man. Yeah, I think that that was I think one of the reasons that was a fun Super Bowl is that there were no heroes, no villains, right? I mean, Matthew Stafford is obviously a guy that people like. |
| Unknown | Who doesn't like him, though? He's never wronged anyone because he's played for the Detroit Lions. Right. |
| Unknown | He does look like Haley Joel Osment. I'm just going to throw that out there. A little bit, yeah. Look up a picture of adult Haley Joel Osment. I'm talking about the kid from The Sixth Sense. Yep. Adult Haley Joel Osment, Matthew Stafford. Put them side by side. They are the same human. Yeah. Perhaps. Yeah. Although I think Haley Joel Osment is like 5'6". |
| Unknown | Matt Stafford could be 5'6". We don't know. And Cooper Cup looking all Logan Paul. Yeah, that was annoying. Whatever. I decided so great. I decided I didn't like him after the Super Bowl. I was like, Oh, that's a bummer. |
| Unknown | He's so he's not Logan Paul, Jake Paul, best receiver in the league. You've got Aaron Donald's probably the best football player in the world. Yeah. Matthew Stafford, who's just Easy to like. And the bangles are great, too. I don't know. I think some people kind of tease Joe Burrow for being a little funny, but he's so good. And he's what, 21? And he's a kid and he seems like a nice kid. |
| Unknown | And he's making a ton of money. If I was making that kind of money at 21, I would also be wearing cashmere turtlenecks with Nike swoosh diamond necklaces. That's just a thing that I would be doing also. I'm thinking about getting one anyway. Yeah, it'll be fake, but it'll help me look cooler. So, yeah, great. Great weekend. Yeah. And excited now to be drinking beer and talking watches. |
| Unknown | So we're drinking a 10 barrel. We drink a lot of 10 barrel on this show. |
| Unknown | Cause there's, it's always rotating variety. It's 10 bucks a six pack. You just, you just can't go wrong. |
| Unknown | So we're drinking 10 barrel. This is called cloud mentality. It's a hazy IPA. |
| Unknown | Like all IPAs are these days. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | It says, if you could taste a sunset, it would taste like this. It's bursting with vivid flavors topped with tropical fruit notes and an epic aroma. |
| Unknown | Let's... I think I accept their analogy. |
| Unknown | Yeah, it's a hazy idea. |
| Unknown | Is it a simile or is it an analogy? |
| Unknown | So we're talking about watches. Probably. We'll get there. We're talking about watches today. And we're going to do a little bit of a roundup. |
| Unknown | We are. |
| Unknown | as we do because there's been some fun stuff, some fun watches that have come out, some fun articles that caught one of our eyes or the other or both. |
| Unknown | And I had one from a while ago that caught my eye and I remember reading it a while ago and being excited about it. And turns out it was nothing to be excited about. So I want to kind of bring it back up to the, up to the top of my mind at least. |
| Unknown | Cool. Yeah. |
| Unknown | Cool. Well, why don't you get us started? |
| Unknown | Well, it's one that we both picked. Can we talk about the Oak and Oscar appearance? Center stage, center ice maybe is more appropriate. Center ice, yeah. How about that? This is one of the cooler product placement watches that I've ever seen for a whole lot of reasons. |
| Unknown | So if you don't know, the men's, American men's curling team. The American men's curling team, that's a thing. |
| Unknown | And these guys, I love these guys because they look like... They transition from bowling in the summer to curling in the winter. |
| Unknown | Straight dad bod heroes. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | Although, you know, I think that curling is dominated by, what, the Italians? |
| Unknown | I mean, not me specifically. That's the concern here. |
| Unknown | So Okan Oscar, Okan Oscar has their watch, their, I think it's the 12 hour Humboldt, on the wrists of their, it's part of the kit. It's part of the curling team kit. |
| Unknown | It's a uniform. They have to wear it. They have to wear it. It's pretty cool. And you, you, I think I would expect that they're also, they get those watches. |
| Unknown | Yeah. You know, I don't know. I mean, do they buy them from Oken Oscar? Uh, I'm not sure. |
| Unknown | My guess is that they get them. |
| Unknown | yeah like for freezes so this is a special edition team schuster i don't know schuster team schuster is the the guy oh he was the flag bearer he's been like the main fellow yeah he's competed in the like the last 24 winter olympics for the united states curling team so this is a 10 piece limited edition i don't know if the other pieces that weren't issued to the team or maybe they were all issued i don't know if the if there are any other pieces or anybody else could buy one. It's pretty neat. You know, this is the Humboldt. It's sort of a well-known watch at this point. 12-hour rotating bezel, super clean sandwich style. Great watch. I think Will's reviewed a Humboldt. |
| Unknown | I think so. When I saw the picture, I was like, is that Will's picture? Wouldn't that be funny? Yeah. I know it's not Will's picture. And what was exciting to me about this was It wasn't, and it's, it's kind of, you know, the, the flavor of curling, right? That's not the centerpiece of the Olympics. So it was a really cool that this kind of obscure Olympic sport that gets an absurd amount of airtime also has watches provided by not a mega brand, not a sponsor of the Olympics, not a sponsor of the U.S. Olympics team watches that they're wearing. And it's a watch that we know and is not unobtainium. |
| Unknown | It feels like I have like a little bit of ownership, even though I'm not an Oakland Oscar owner, it's like this is a watch from our community on the national stage. |
| Unknown | Yeah. And I could that means I could wear an Oakland Oscar and there's a reasonable chance I could also be an Olympic curler. I got a lot of life left in me. I'll never be as cool as these guys, but it's just, it's a cool, like very, every man's very epitome of curling watch that they chose. Cause it'd be really easy for them to just, you know, I definitely just made it right in the middle of my sentence. It'd be really easy for them to not give them watches. It'd be really easy for any of the other 9 million sponsors to provide watches. But Okan Oscars like, Hey, here's 10. This is what we can do. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Well, it's a cool thing. So, uh, cool thing, cool watch. Olympics are always special. Curling, you're right, gets an odd amount of coverage. |
| Unknown | Curling and figure skating, I think, probably get the most coverage. And I don't fully understand why. Yeah. It's like summer gymnastics. You watch more gymnastics than anything else during the summer games. |
| Unknown | It's always on. Yeah. Yeah. I think I don't know about curling. I know with gymnastics, it feels like they're just competing the entire time. |
| Unknown | Ice skating is the same way. It's on right now. It was on this morning. It was on today. It's always live. What is it? Stop it. Get me to ski crashes. |
| Unknown | So your favorite watch brand released a new watch. Here, I want to say this was sort of announced in the last week, but Timex, the Q Timex label released a new watch. And I think this one's kind of a doozy, man. It's something. |
| Unknown | It's something. I don't know how I feel about it yet. It might be an acquired taste for me. I might have to come back to it a few times, but I am excited about it. |
| Unknown | Yeah, I would say this is more of an acquired taste than anything else in the Q line. So what are we going to call this? So this is the 19 Q Timex 1972 reissued. This is a big fat sort of tonneau oval cushion. I don't know, maybe not cushion, but like it's this big tonneau barrel is good. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | Um, sort of, uh, uh, hooded lugs. It's just this big sort of UFO and it is notably gold Tom and something that I've |
| Unknown | Full polish, gold tone. Super dig about it. Floating markers. So they sit above the dial? Look at the shadow that's cast underneath the markers on those dial close-ups. |
| Unknown | Oh yeah, that is really interesting. |
| Unknown | I don't know if it's just, I mean it looks like they're fully floating. Yeah, I think they must connect. Connected to like what would be the chapter ring? Or if they're just cut out. But it's a cool, somehow, like you really need to add any depth to this probably 15 and a half or greater thickness watch, but it adds a really cool depth to the dial. |
| Unknown | Yeah, no, it's interesting. I mean, the whole watch is just a little bizarre. It's got a, first of all, just to put it out there, the dial's beautiful. It's got this, you know, burgundy or red, I guess they're calling it ruby red dial. Uh, and, and the red on gold is always just a fantastic combo and it looks really good here. Uh, but the rest of this, this is such a weird watch. I mean, it's, it looks to me like it's probably about 14 millimeters thick. I think it's probably more than that, man. I don't have any dimensions on here. Let's see. |
| Unknown | And you can't ever get dimensions from Timex direct. You gotta go to a review website to find them. Uh, let's see. I'm on the Timex direct website. |
| Unknown | Yeah. So 43 millimeters, um, water resistant, 50 millimeters or 50 meters. That's good. 43 millimeters, 15 millimeter case height. Yeah. So kind of a cabamo, uh, kind of a cabamo watch. Yeah. 20 millimeter lugs, which I like. That's nice, but that's a good move for them. I think this is the most, for me, this is the most polarizing Qtimex release yet. |
| Unknown | It's the first one they're taking a chance on for sure. Because everything else has been really attractive, really classic. Almost, I mean not exactly, but uh, subtle-ish? Understated maybe? Or, I don't know. There's a better word for that. |
| Unknown | Yeah, just subtle. I think that's a great word for it. This is, this is... the opposite. It is not that. This is the opposite of subtle. Well, cool. So I think that these are, do you have a price on these? $169. Yeah. So $169. They've got a good, I think it's a Seiko sell in these, um, or a Seiko movement, excuse me. Uh, yeah, this is, this is cool. I like the case back. The case back is that sort of classic screw back. Uh, but it's got the little battery portal. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | And the strap looks like whatever buck was kind of neat. |
| Unknown | Yeah, interesting for 170 bucks. I think it's a little bit better than a medium, you know, medium. Yeah, it's warm. It's not hot, but it's warm and warmer than you'd want to touch. What you got next? I got a sip of beer in my mouth. |
| Unknown | Mm. |
| Unknown | I'm going to start with the thing that I that I saw and wanted to kind of circle back to. So last year, LVMH, which is the Moet-Hennessy-Louis Vuitton. Tag Heuer. Tag Heuer-Bulgari. |
| Unknown | LVMH. Acquired. That's how you pronounce that. |
| Unknown | LVMH. Yeah. Yeah. Acquired Tiffany. And I remember reading that and being like, Oh, this could be, this opens a cool opportunity, I think. for like Tag Heuer and Bulgari and maybe even Tiffany to do some cool shit in the watch world. And then the only cool thing that has happened with the name Tiffany in it in the watch world is a blue watch that came out a month or so ago. |
| Unknown | Yeah well I don't think this I don't think that this um so this is January 8th 2021 yeah um is when this article is and supposedly there's some problems with the acquisition and oh did it fall through no they fought about it a little bit so um yeah this is interesting so zenith obviously very very i don't see zenith ever kind of dabbling in that but bulgari and tag heuer seem like brands that would dabble in that yeah bulgari i i actually think of the three zenith is the best fit uh you know tiffany el pomero You know, or whatever. I don't think that either TAG or Bulgari make a watch that is a really great fit for that right now. |
| Unknown | I think a Tiffany Ladies Aquaracer would be just fucking dope. |
| Unknown | A Tiffany Dial, Monincase 2000 or something. We got something there. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I mean, that certainly seems to be a suggestion of what could happen. It's interesting. The article that you sent suggests that it might put some strain on the historical paddock relationship or even perhaps the Rolex relationship. You know, I, I would, you would have to think that that's nothing changes, not a real thing. |
| Unknown | Cause it's, I mean, it's still just a subsidiary, but I would think that that cousin relationship then would have allowed some access, like some, some mutually beneficial access between these other LVMH companies. And it just kind of, |
| Unknown | Well, you know, these things take time, right? Like, it takes a really long time to design a Tiffany Blue Paddock Dial. It's not something that just happens overnight. |
| Unknown | No, I mean, the color's not stored on a palette somewhere. Ooh, double entendre. A palette of Tiffany Blue, but blue the color palette. Yeah, you're welcome. It got better when I explained it, didn't it? I don't think that's possible, but... Yeah, no, because it was awesome. It didn't make sense after you explained it. It was a slower burn than... Yeah. |
| Unknown | This beer is good. |
| Unknown | It is good. Um, but yeah, I was, I remember reading that being excited and Tiffany's not ever going to be a staple in my world or even like maybe make an appearance in my world, but I just thought it'd be cool cause I'm like cool shit and feeling a little let down. So anyway, as I was, as I was kind of just scrolling through stuff today, I've never seen that as like a, I don't know, Had it just been like floating around and not new news, not new news, but new news to us, but we're going to circle back to it and remind ourselves that this happened and nothing has changed. Yeah. And that's a bit of a bummer. |
| Unknown | We'll see. We'll see. There's still things that could come out of it. |
| Unknown | Yeah. I mean, there's, there's always time, but I want it, I want it now. |
| Unknown | I kind of want you to sing that when you say it. Yeah. |
| Unknown | What you got next? |
| Unknown | I got another watch that I, that caught my eye, uh, this last week. Okay. And it didn't catch my eye necessarily because I love the watch. |
| Unknown | Ooh, I know what you're talking about. |
| Unknown | Uh, because I do like the watch. It's a good watch. So this is a Zelos, uh, the new Spearfish, new Spearfish from Zelos. So Zelos, obviously super famous. One of the, you know, one of the older micro brands I'd say, or at least have been doing this for a very long time. Company out of Singapore and they just make cool watches, right? These are, you know, I think Zelos aesthetic is like kind of like blocky and angular and very tool watch. Kind of like, I'm going to kick your ass. |
| Unknown | Kind of like if Doxa had evolved since the, you know, their inception. Yeah. This is what I expect a modern Doxa would look like if they, didn't just like settle on a design. |
| Unknown | Right. Or perhaps if like, uh, Patrick Swayze from Roadhouse was a watch. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Yeah. Both of those are really, you don't even have to look up this watch. You know what we're talking about. |
| Unknown | So, so they released a new Spearfish this week and it's a, it's a lovely watch as, as these are. I'm not sure it's my style necessarily, but they're very good looking watches. Uh, they're a little sort of upright. |
| Unknown | Mhm. |
| Unknown | as, as is fitting of that, you know, really tool like aesthetic, but look, I, I just sort of pulled the thing up and I sort of slid through and I'm looking at this watch and I'm like, dude, everything on this watch looks better. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | This all looks better. Uh, and, and that's because it is. So this is a watch that's not super expensive. I mean, it's still in the, you know, what, Do you have a price? I think it's $650. Let's see. I'm going to look for it. |
| Unknown | So $645 for regular type dials. $700 for a forged carbon dial bezel. |
| Unknown | And the most interesting thing about these is that they come with the new-ish La Jouperie G100 movement, which is a new microbrand movement. Yes. And so I think that this is sort of been put out in the world to compete with higher-end, or not higher-end, but you know, the entry-level ETA. These established, yeah. These Swiss movements. So the article I read here suggests that this is a Miota 9000 architecture watch that's been upgraded. So the rotor connection point is like one of these three screw bearings. They've upgraded it. They've gone through and made this nicer than a Miota. I think it's got a 68 hour power reserve. So there's something that's been tweaked to get some more time out of it. The Miota is already a really consistent runner. Um, so you've started with good architecture and then they've just sort of upgraded it probably to make it a little bit more accurate and certainly to make it a more stable platform for a watch with those upgraded bearings and the longer power reserve. So, um, and it looks to me like what Elshon did with these is sort of, I'm going to make like a slightly nicer watch. And if you look at this thing, the, the design is similar to like, I don't know, the, the bracelet reminds me of a few bracelets from sort of higher end watches, um, the chamfers and everything. It just looks really, really, good all the macros on this thing make the finishing look stellar i mean you can see the brushing the the circular brushing in the bezel all the lines are really clean and the texture on the dial is just next level yeah i that's actually the one i fucking hate those dials i and it's not that i they're not pretty or they're not well done it's just not my thing that is not my thing at all so i wish that there was like a black dial. Just give me a gray dial. Give me a black, give me a, you know, something that's going to, uh, but I would say if you're into it, if you're into that dial and there's obviously nothing wrong, if you are, this looks great. The clasp looks great. Um, I, I, yeah, I think this is a cool, and for 645 bucks, it's not even crazy price sort of PVD loomed bezel. This is kind of a sick watch. I'm into it. And I like that it's using this G 100 movement. |
| Unknown | Yeah, I think it's kind of a risk-free move for them, too. They can use a cool movement that they know is going to have really good serviceability, because this brand is not going to want any bad feedback on these new movements. |
| Unknown | Yeah, I don't know if that's true. I mean, so La Jouperie, I think, is owned by the same parent company as Miota. I think they're all part of Citizen Group. Obviously this is not a fly-by-night operation, but I don't think there's very many of these out in the world. So I'm curious about how serviceable this is. |
| Unknown | I bet they're going to make it very available. There's a full loom version. Of the? A full loom dial. It's called Frost. It's a white dial, but full loomed. That's dope. Look at that. |
| Unknown | I'm pulling it up right now. Oh yeah, that is really good looking. And you know, this is the typical, oh yeah, The frost dial is the best. Yeah. They've got some meteorite dials, which if that's your thing. It's not mine, but it's for somebody. It's a little sunburst-y for me. Actually, the frost dial is the one that is the least objectionable in that regard. And it's full loomed, which is cool. Yeah. But the thing that intrigues me most about these is that bracelet, the finishing and all the finishing. This looks like this is a really nice watch. Surprisingly nice. |
| Unknown | Unexpectedly so, even. |
| Unknown | I got a couple things. I'm kind of tempted to reach out and see if they would, if they'd ship us out a review piece because. We've spoken so highly of it. Well, maybe, maybe that's what we do. We say, Hey, Elshon, we said really nice things about your watch. Would you be willing to send us a review piece? |
| Unknown | And a one-off dial. |
| Unknown | A custom blue and orange dial. |
| Unknown | Yeah, that's doable. That's really easy. Let me just paint it. I have fingernail polish. Problem solved. So I've got a, I grabbed a couple articles that all kind of got me thinking about watch collecting and our hobby as it were, and the, you know, how it leads to us being podcasters. And there are two of them are Fratello articles. And the last is a Hodinkee article. So the first one is, Um, no money, no problem. How I started collecting watches on a budget as a broke college student, which is I think everyone's story into watches, right? Not necessarily being a broke college student, but your emotional tolerance for dropping a large amount of money on a watch really quickly increases. It's the first time you go buy a watch, like, I don't know, 500 bucks seems like an expensive watch. And then, you know, you spend 500 bucks on a watch. You're like, yeah, but that $900 watch is kind of, kind of like that. And then like suddenly you're spending increasingly, you're increasing sums of money on watches and not divesting these other watches that you have because you love them. You bought them for a reason. The reason I pulled this article is I thought it offered an interesting take into the world of watch collecting. |
| Unknown | So what's the name of the article? Name of the article. |
| Unknown | The name of the article, no money, no problem. How I started collecting watches on a budget as a broke college student by Ignacio Conde Garzon. From Fratello, published February 10th in the year of our Lord 2022. I'm seeing February 16th, aka today. |
| Unknown | I'm seeing the 10th. So. Interesting. Maybe that's telling me. Oh, yeah, you're saying telling today is today. Today is the 16th. Yeah. |
| Unknown | Whatever. So whatever. What I thought was interesting about this was he took a I think a unique trajectory into it and went all vintage all the way. Like really just deliberate hunting, really thorough research found affordables that maybe or maybe weren't going to be serviceable, but that were at least working. And that was what started his collecting. So the first one he got, um, I think you say Monteen. Yeah. A 34 millimeter gold plated Monteen of Switzerland with a buy it now price of 20 euros. |
| Unknown | Yeah. So, so pounds we should say, but he, This article, he buys all these watches for these ridiculously low prices, which I'm sure involves a hunt, but he's buying these on eBay, Klein & Sagan, which is like a German Craigslist. And he's obviously putting in a lot of work, and this is several years ago. So that's the one thing about this article where I was like, these deals don't exist anywhere in the world today. |
| Unknown | They don't exist, but the The attitude. The attitude is there of not all the hype is necessarily what you want. We all want the thing about that is all the hype. Because that's what we're told to want. And things get hype generally because they're cool. There's a lot of things that get hype not because they're cool because they get hype. But this was a I thought a cool just a good reminder article of the beginning of the hobby and what's exciting about watches and what's exciting about finding new watches and looking at stuff. It's that journey of learning and finding the cool shit that nobody else knows about and nobody's going to recognize except maybe one other weird watch dude. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Yeah. When he goes through some great watches too. Yeah, the lineup was dope. They're interesting. They're definitely vintage, right? And all of them are vintage, but some of them are pretty cool. Is this really neat Tissot chronograph? I mean, some of these watches that he winds up going through are really, very neat this omega tv dial that he picks up for like 60 euros yeah which is nuts um and actually there's this like sort of burgundy dial timex full polished gold tone timex in the collection that is very similar to that new 1972 q timex although i don't think this is a q i think that this is a mechanical it's pre-q but yeah it's cool shit i mean what a |
| Unknown | That's a bold way to begin collecting. Yeah. But what a good way to begin collecting. I think Evan is kind of like that. Evan does a lot of vintage stuff. |
| Unknown | Yeah, he's got, so iKortman on Instagram, one of our writers, Evan Kortman, uh, he's got some modern pieces too. So I think that he's never been exclusively vintage, but he's written that I think three or four part series now on the website about gold watches and Um, he, he's got a ton of this type of experience. Yes. And he's like, that guy's like taking apart movements nowadays. |
| Unknown | Yeah. He's doing some, some brave stuff. Yeah. I'm not this brave. |
| Unknown | Well, and I think, I think if you're going to go down this route, you maybe naturally get pushed to that. Well, I bought this $20. Yeah. Whatever. Uh, you know, I can't do anything with it. Maybe I'll take it apart. |
| Unknown | Cause I liked the way it looks. Yeah. Let's see if I can pull the whatever is in the way of the movement out, right? It's now the movement. Um, so yeah, just, uh, and we'll link to the article. It was a quick read, some cool watches to view and just a good perspective bringing article, a good reminder article. |
| Unknown | Yeah, I agree with that. |
| Unknown | I agree with that. You want to go through the rest of these or should I, should I, uh, do you do me one next? So, uh, I think this may actually be my last article, but, uh, or not article, my last pick, but, uh, another watch that I found this week that is interesting, I should say. Uh, but also I kind of hate it. Okay. So Formex launched a new line this week. So Formex is I think a very cool brand. Uh, but they maybe make some controversial decisions or have, so really, really cool, amazing watches. Formax released a pretty affordable being like under $900, 800 I think is what these go for field watch. And it's, uh, I've pulled up, I think a monochrome article on this and they say modern and accessible military field watch the field automatic, which is an interesting way to describe this watch. Um, |
| Unknown | $9.45 on a leather strap with carbon adjustable clasp, which is kind of weird. |
| Unknown | And I think that you can get it on nylon for like $7.95. Yeah. $800 on nylon. And then this fancy leather. So this is a field watch. It's a field watch. It's got some interesting lines to it. It's got Formex lines. The case is very Formex. It's nice. I like it. I thought that maybe it had sort of uh like a uh boulder style lugs it does not that was my first thought too it was very boulder venture-y the font on the dowel it's a sandwich dowel and it's attractive sandwich dowel the font on the dowel is like a stencil font which i think is kind of contrived but it's all right what i hate about this watch because i do hate this is every single version has That really, really orange vintage loom. Yep. All of them have it. Even the purple one. Markers, date wheel, everything. As if, as if these have been like just sitting in the sun for the last 40 years, inconsistent. even sunlight for 40 years, which clearly they haven't. I hate this. I hate that design decision because I think this is a salvageable watch without that. I think for me that ruins it. Because this is such a compelling watch to me. |
| Unknown | I think I think it was because it's yellow. It's not the brown faux teen ed. I think it was like a legibility decision. I think it's meant to look like flat dark earth, brown, like tactical. Yeah, maybe. I think that's it. I'm not saying it's excusable. I'm just saying I think that's it. I think it's less photina than it is, uh, like a color palette choice. |
| Unknown | So let's talk about the good things. It's, it's kind of big 41 millimeters, which I think is maybe a little big for this watch. Um, but I'm sure it's great. 10 and 10.6, 10 and a half high, which is nice. It's a 47-ish lug to lug, so it'll wear really nice. Titanium grade two, whatever that means. 150 meters of water resistance, which I think is an excellent choice. Yeah, for a field watch, you're not going to come near that with most. Nice movement. It's got the Selita movement for, you know, under a thousand bucks. I like it. I think that's a good choice. Crown's good. Design is good. The Timex or the Timex, the titanium looks great. |
| Unknown | The titanium looks really good. You know my favorite part? Tell me. The date window. |
| Unknown | It's a good date window. I don't mind this at all. |
| Unknown | So rather than your typical date window, which is just a square or circle cutout, they've made it almost as wide as you'd expect for a yesterday, today, tomorrow date wheel visibility. But they've beveled it in so you can only see today. But that bevel draws your eyes to it. kind of makes the date seem more legible, because you're not looking down through a little porthole at it. You're looking almost flush at the date wheel. Let's some extra light in there for legibility. I think that's a cool, a really cool date window. Yeah, I like it. And I very much like it. |
| Unknown | I mean, other than that, there's not a lot happening here, right? It's. |
| Unknown | No, it's a Formex case made into a field watch. |
| Unknown | Syringe hands are nice. I'm sure that it's super well built for that price. Pretty affordable for 4 Max, honestly. |
| Unknown | I wish they would have gone a little bit smaller. |
| Unknown | Can we just get white lume? Yeah. |
| Unknown | Just for the love of God. If even only on the purple one. Right. Right. Just redeem the purple watch with one thing. |
| Unknown | Yeah, it's particularly offensive on the purple. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | So it's like it looks like a L.A. Lakers branded watch. The other colors are good. We've got like a Like a true black, kind of like a slatey black gray, a navy, a yucky purple, kind of a, like a coffee color. |
| Unknown | Yeah. And then like an olive drab. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Like a, the OD that you'd expect. Yeah. Kind of like a gray olive drab. That's a good lineup. |
| Unknown | I actually don't hate the purple. I do. I just wish they all had white on them. |
| Unknown | Maybe they can do one special for you. I don't think they will. There's no harm in asking. |
| Unknown | And the nylon's cool too. I don't know what that nylon strap is, if it's stretchy. It looks like it would be stretchy, but it's a good looking, it's interesting. |
| Unknown | It looks like it ought to be stretchy. I can't understand the $200 price difference for the leather. |
| Unknown | I think it must have to do with the clasp. I'm not finding any pictures of the clasp, but supposedly there's a special clasp. |
| Unknown | It looks like, I mean, it's a two piece or it's a one piece clasp, obviously. But it looks like it maybe opens and ratchets down onto the leather. If you look at the color lineup, you can see the profile of them, but it's carbon, so. |
| Unknown | Yeah, hard to say. It looks like it must be a special because the leather doesn't look like anything crazy, but yeah, that is a pretty big price difference between the nylon and the leather. |
| Unknown | So I wish I could see the clasp. Maybe we'll, maybe we'll get them to send us a review piece too. Yeah, we should do that. So we can trash the yellow loom. Listen, we don't like the loom. Everything else is great. Send us one and we will say 99% nice things. |
| Unknown | So these, these are on what pre-order now. These are on pre-order now. Um, and I think that they are set to deliver. Well, I don't know. I don't, it doesn't say. but they're pre-order in any event. So you can actually get one today. So yeah, that clasp thing, it's like a fine adjustment clasp. So it gives you a little bit of wiggle room, I guess. And it looks like pretty neat tech. |
| Unknown | Yeah, I mean, it's carbon. Carbon's cool. Like this watch is titanium and carbon. That's two of the coolest materials in watch manufacturing today. |
| Unknown | If you go to the website, they've actually got like an animation behind the mechanism, which, |
| Unknown | Cool. Good stuff. An exciting release from Formex, who I'm generally kind of underwhelmed by. I know a lot of people really like them, and for good reason. None of their stuff does it for me. This doesn't even do it for me. |
| Unknown | I just say nice things about it. Yeah, I don't think this was an extremely popular release around the editorial board, mostly because of the things that we mentioned. I think Mike liked them. Make sense. |
| Unknown | Mike likes Formics though. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Um, I like them. I just wish that that loom is a, that loom kills it for me. Um, yeah, so I felt like I was going somewhere with that thought, but it's drifted away from me. |
| Unknown | It's gone down the, down the river as it were. So you've got one article left and I've got two. I'm going to do mine together. Do them together. Do it live. First article, Fratello from Dave Sargent, February 13th, 2022. Starting out, how collecting micro brands allowed me to experiment and explore. And Fratello's doing kind of a cool week, like a collector's week. I've got pictures up with like a little green stamp on them that are all people collecting watches and kind of stories about their journey. Worth looking at those because there's a few good reads in there. |
| Unknown | And it feels sort of counter, the whole series feels sort of counterculture to me too. As much as watch collecting can be counterculture. |
| Unknown | Well, it's almost counter watch culture. At least for me, it's all been, the articles that I've read were very much how to be deliberate in your collecting. why people are choosing to be deliberate in their collecting, why people are choosing to go away from the hot, cool shit. And I don't know, it was just the articles that I've read spoke to me. I haven't read a bad one yet or one that I didn't agree with or at least take something from. So starting out, how collecting micro micro brands allowed me to experiment and explore. And I'm going to partner this with a Hodinkee article. from the 14th by Danny Milton, entitled The Eight, well, Nine, if you're lucky, Stages of a Relationship with a Watch. Oh, Danny Milton. And I think that's appropriate because we're talking about experimenting. We're also talking about feeling out your tastes in watches. And so this article goes into, the first article, Dave Sargent's article, talks about how he went about choosing micro-brands. And I think one of the points that he makes, and is exceedingly important for people who are choosing to exist in the affordable micro-brand, independent brand world, is that they are not all equal. It's a whole paragraph. Not all micro-brands are created equally. And I think that's a really important thing to bear in mind when we dabble in new brands, which is not to say we need to avoid new brands, but it is to say that a lot of new brands try to ride the coattails of the brands that have come before them, charge the same price for a significantly lower quality product because we're all used to paying $500 to $800 for a microbrand watch. So he goes into his article talking about sampling microbrands, finding the things he likes, finding the things he doesn't like, and I liked it. I think that's what microbrands are all about. Sampling the world around you, finding designers you like, finding new things that you like, finding watches you like, and being able to afford them. |
| Unknown | Yeah, he makes an interesting point in this article. He says something about design boards, right? So, you know, major brands are designing by committee, literally, probably in most instances, but most of these microbrands are being designed by one person. Maybe two or perhaps two and um the best of them make decisions and and so you're getting this sort of unadulterated set of design decisions which for better or worse sometimes it's much worse you know it is different almost always you know you there are obviously the you know i'm making an homage watch clearly making an homage watch and that's maybe a different conversation, but in terms of folks, you know, like came watch company, for instance, this guy's making weird watches and they're, and they're cool and they're attractive. And you know, if, if people say, yeah, I don't know if that's for me, you've made something interesting. If someone's going to look at your watch and be like, what the fuck that means it's interesting, you know, do you woo a guy we had on, uh, right. a number of years, he's making this Chinese, very Chinese, like deliberately Chinese, adventuring dialed micro rotor dress ratchet. And it's like, what even is this? And people would message us and be like, what is that? And I don't think, you know, either one of us made fun of it, but you know, there's like... No, we even made, we didn't make fun of it, but not in a negative way. |
| Unknown | It's like, you're doing too many cool things here. Right. Choose one of these cool things that nobody does in the space and do that cool thing. |
| Unknown | And that's the best thing about these micro brands, right? And I think Danny does a good job of sort of saying you're getting these really sort of unique, interesting, fun designs. And so you've got to take the small brand, the small brand aspects of the micro brand reality with that watch. But it's, you know, it's something that's going to be cool and different. Yes. |
| Unknown | And I've never been disappointed by any micro watch that I've ever had. Had on the wrist, in the review, like, or in for review, or just flat out disappointed ever once. Could be just because it feels like Christmas, but. Right. I've got a new watch. Woo-hoo! So, with that, the eight, well, nine, if you're lucky, stages of a relationship with a watch. |
| Unknown | I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I attributed a statement to Danny Milton. That's actually Dave Sargent. Yeah. I was moving too quickly. I'm sorry. |
| Unknown | He calls us call stage one, the infatuation to the hunt. Three, the acquisition for the honeymoon period, five general ownership, six detachment, seven, the wandering eye, eight, the breakup, and number nine, if you're lucky, the outlier. I added the, if you're lucky, but there's two asterisks that indicate the, if you're lucky part. |
| Unknown | Yeah. I think he's made some assumptions that, that most people collect like him. And I think those assumptions are not wrong because I do think most people collect like him, but this article definitely did not. Steps one through like six connected with me five for me, one through five. Like I don't fall out of love with watches and I don't sell watches for exactly that reason. |
| Unknown | Exactly. And that was, so when I was reading this article, like it kind of struck a nerve for me cause he, he hit one through five right on the head. I'm like, yeah, that's it. I love that. This is, this is why I do it. But then when we get to six, I'm like, wait a second, wait, what? Why did I go through one through five to get to me? Right. And then divestment and like, and that, I don't know, it doesn't bug me cause I understand that people, maybe No, it bugs me. It bugs Andrew. I don't think there's a problem with it, but the thought of acquiring and sending away watches irks me. Like it makes me physically uncomfortable to think about falling in love with a watch, buying it, and then eventually selling it. I can't, I just, I can't manage it. I know that that's a really common thing. |
| Unknown | I mean, yeah, I think actually it kind of makes us weirdos that we don't do that. It's, it's odd that both of us, |
| Unknown | are the same in that regard, too. We're like polymonogamous. |
| Unknown | Because I think statistically speaking, it would be unlikely that we're both sort of that get it and set it and forget it type of collector. But yeah, you know, I thought the article was clever. I thought it was insightful, if maybe a little obvious. I think he missed some opportunities to be funny. Yeah, but it tracks. It tracks. Yeah. It was like almost a little too literal. It was like, okay, yeah, this is actually what happens to people. |
| Unknown | Yeah. But it was, I think it, it helped me understand the revolving door that people get into in their, in their watch acquisition process. Cause I think if I was buying watches, totally okay with the fact that I would be parting with it days, weeks, months later, I would have a lot more watches. Cause I can't sell watches. Um, but I, I, I'm just not comfortable with that. Yeah. It just doesn't, I don't, I don't, I don't even like taking things to goodwill. Right. I might, I might want that again. And maybe that's just a character flaw, but you know, I just fall so deeply in love with a watch. |
| Unknown | I think it must be a little bit like, um, I think there must be some switch that happens. So people start selling watches and they realize how doable it is and they get into, it's like a habit forming thing. So one of my watch friends, local guy here actually, so an IRL friend even, is a fellow that I met a year and a half ago and we hit it off because he's into watches, I'm into watches, and he's had like really great watches come through. He's pretty regularly acquiring and selling watches and he picked up, I don't, not a month ago, this Tudor GMT. Oh. And it's great. Yeah. And it feels, I don't know the exact timeframe, but it felt like it was no more than like two weeks later that he was like, so turns out I'm not a one watch guy. And he sold it. And then today, I think he's got an Orisakos in. To acquire multiple? I don't know. I think the sale of the Tudor GMT, I think he was able to probably open up some doors, some holes in the watch box, as it were, both financially and in terms of space. So, you know, I'm curious to see what he gets because it's sort of like collecting vicariously through someone. You know, there's this thing that happens, I think, where you just get more comfortable with the idea of catch and release. Uh, and, and not to characterize that for better or worse, but. |
| Unknown | Something that's bummed me out and I'm simultaneously very excited is that Clay is, uh, doing a year long monogamy test. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | And cause I, Clay and I had really similar taste in watches. And I got to enjoy watches through the pictures that he took of his, what's felt like daily acquisitions. I know that they weren't that often Clay, and I'm not trying to like push you off the wagon here, but I kind of missed that. Cause I'm like, Oh, I like that watch. I like that watch. I wouldn't buy it cause I wouldn't have a real part with it, but I like that watch. Thanks for getting it. Thanks for posting a picture of it. And I know you, so I feel like I got to enjoy this watch with you. |
| Unknown | Clay is another one where he's like, this is, I bought this watch and this is a keeper. And then like today, not like three weeks later, it's up for sale. So, you know, he's not doing that now though. |
| Unknown | And he's doing really good. He's on day, what are we on? 31, 15, 46 days. Look at him go. |
| Unknown | I mean, that's actually kind of incredible. |
| Unknown | Yeah. It's been a long time since I wore the same watch for 46 days. And you're doing great. |
| Unknown | And you're doing great. So I think actually that's the full run of my stuff. You had one more, at least that you sent to me. |
| Unknown | Oh yeah. Mating... Oh yeah. |
| Unknown | Glashütte. Glashütte is how you pronounce that. So Germany's Glashütte, which is sort of the capital of German watchmaking, has required that they passed a law requiring a certain amount of bona fides if you're going to say we're a Glashutte made watch. |
| Unknown | That's a big move. |
| Unknown | And I don't know if this was a problem. I assume that there were some problem. I also assume that this is something that's incredibly political and is probably being propped up by some group of Glashütte-based lobbyist. |
| Unknown | Who are trying to increase the legitimacy and allure of Glashütte watches. |
| Unknown | Yeah. To some degree. It feels to me like it's probably gatekeeping, but that may be cynical. |
| Unknown | Of course, that's the whole point of the made in wherever. It's gatekeeping. You can't make all your shit in China, assemble it in China, and then like give it a kiss in Germany and say it was made in Germany. |
| Unknown | And so this is so so the Glashütte rule. uh, requires 50% of time pieces value to be created in Glashutte. Uh, and had they have to have been around since 1906. That's dog shit. |
| Unknown | Uh, that's gatekeeping. |
| Unknown | So, you know, are to the extent that there's any plausible deniability on the gatekeeping. |
| Unknown | Uh, do you think that they'll accept zombie brands? |
| Unknown | Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. Uh, it's interesting to This is kind of a nothing burger. It doesn't affect the way I collect watches or even think about watches. It doesn't say made in Switzerland and I'll buy it. There are some Glashütte based watches that I might be interested in acquiring at some future date. Not that I can even think of any right now. Just saying. Just saying. They're out there. This felt like kind of a funny thing. |
| Unknown | Yeah. 1906. What is it? 1906. Hey man, when were you around? 05? All right. Well, we're going to. |
| Unknown | OK, you're good. |
| Unknown | You're good. Oh, nine. Good. Sorry. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Nineteen ten. What do you call that? Fucking kids these days. |
| Unknown | Yeah. |
| Unknown | So, you know, obviously there's some point of demarcation there. I don't know what it is. Obviously, that's an important day for someone. |
| Unknown | But yeah. So for probably three someone's who are going to be the primary beneficiaries at the stamp. |
| Unknown | So you're right. I did have one more, but now I am truly, truly retiring. And that's it. Watch us for the evening, unless you have something else. |
| Unknown | No, I mean, for this, this is, this is it for us. This is our farewell roundup episode. We're retired. Until next week. Yeah, until, I mean, we take a hiatus every week. Andrew, other things. What do you got? I'm going to cheat. I'm going to double other thing. So first other thing. We got our 23andMe results back this week. |
| Unknown | Right? |
| Unknown | This is a follow-up. Yeah, I talked about this at about Christmas, so about six weeks ago is when I talked about this. Callback. And we got our results back, and it has been a fun exercise in like, oh, well, these are the things that my family says about my family. But this is what science supports, which means Someone was a liar. And why did everyone cling so tightly to that lie? Largely my genetics are exactly what the, the family, like the oral history of my family has been. There's some, some differences which are kind of explained by genetic migrations and then like the anecdotal migrations and recent generations. But generally it's, it's on, but it's been cool to look at. Transylvanian. Yeah, obviously. Very clearly. Uh, But it's just, it's been a cool eye-opening thing to look at just that. Something that you can never really make tangible. Just like, oh, you know, great-grandpa said this about the family. said this and that and the other thing. And now it's a very tangible and it's just a cool, a cool look back at where you came from. Uh, my wife has really enjoyed it. And one of the cool features is you can opt into like connecting to, um, people you're related to and you don't have to opt in, but you can opt in and it builds this map that you can zoom in and out of and everyone you're related to, like down to 1% shared genetic material. shows up on this little map. How many people is this? I have 1500 people in mine, down to 1% genetic similarities. So like people who we share like a five greats grandparent. |
| Unknown | Are there any like, like any famous people? |
| Unknown | Are you related to like? Alexander Hamilton and I have an ancestor in common. Nice. And Marie Antoinette and I have an ancestor in common. Nice. Most white people have an ancestor in common with Marie Antoinette. And most European men have a ancestor in common with Alexander Hamilton. But I will hold to those things. Yeah, it was just it was interesting to see like your genetic predisposition to certain things. Like I have two genetic markers that suggest that I am unlikely to part with things that no longer have any use. which really, yeah, that hit the nail right on the head. Although two things that really bugged me, I only have a 13% chance of going bald and about a 20% chance of having thinning hair. So you won the lottery? I double won the lottery because I am both of those things. The hair density on my head is, is it's unpleasant. |
| Unknown | I find it pleasant. |
| Unknown | I'm yeah, I'm glad with your luscious locks looking at me and God. So it's a fun thing if you haven't done it. I mean, I know there's some discomfort with like giving your genetic material to some company to be analyzed and like they're not the government. So I don't know. I was kind of like not anxious, but hesitant to and then I was like, fuck it, whatever. Yeah, I spit on the ground. Like if people wanted my DNA, they'd have it by now. And why would they want to clone me? I'm like, I have a terrible chance of going bald, yet I'm going bald. Like I'm not, I'm not who they're looking for. |
| Unknown | Well, you know, maybe, maybe they are looking for you. |
| Unknown | That's not a, it's not a desirable trait. My real other thing. We don't want no ground spitters. No. My real other thing. In Arizona, and I'm going to call her an amateur archaeologist because she is an amateur archaeologist. An Arizona amateur archaeologist found artifacts linked to Coronado's 1540 expedition into the Southwestern, what is now United States. And she found these artifacts and what in the way they are laid out in what is probably the first and farthest West colony in the United States by Europeans, and it's super fucking cool. A lot of bad stuff tied to that, right? I'm not saying that conquest and conquistadors are good people. What I am saying is that history is very cool, and finding an archaeological site of this magnitude is huge europeans in new mexico in the 16th century yes shit was probably not great no well so they she uh she the coronado led this huge armed expedition of uh like mexican tribes with his own conquistador army presumably to conquest and look for treasure it was just bunch like fucking whatever but she's found all manner of sword tips and chain mail. And she says she found a bronze wall gun, which is three feet long and weighs about 40 pounds on the floor of one of the structures. So it's a cannon. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. A small, small can. I can't the kind of can that you'd carry with you on campaign. Not dragging that bitch. A cruiser of weapon. Yes. It is cool. And there's obviously a lot more to come out There was one very funny part of this article that said the independent researcher revealed her find on January 29th to a sold-out lecture to more than 100 people. |
| Unknown | She sold all of them tickets. She sold every seat in that living room. |
| Unknown | Set the bar high. She's obviously not saying exactly where it is. She kind of gave a vague general idea of where it is. |
| Unknown | So there's some controversy, right? Because the find sort of changes the historical narrative regarding the conquest, the path of the expedition. |
| Unknown | It was always generally unknown, but mostly agreed on. And her theories kind of doesn't throw it on its head, but takes a, takes a left turn and is very cool. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Yeah. No, it's okay. I'm excited. |
| Unknown | Archaeological discoveries. Archaeological discoveries in the inhabited United States is an impressive enough feat, never mind that it's from the 16th century. |
| Unknown | Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty, pretty good stuff. That was a fun article. And it was fun to see that there's, you know, this is like this kind of stuff happens all the time, but it was fun to, to read about it kind of happening in real time. |
| Unknown | And in the United States and to a sold out crowd of a hundred people. Why would they include that line? This is like just such a weird dig. There was two parts to that sentence. Only one part was necessary. |
| Unknown | Sold out crowd. |
| Unknown | To a crowd of 100 people. To a sold out crowd. Take your pick, but not both. |
| Unknown | Sold out crowd of her entire extended family. |
| Unknown | It really is just the research team. They all had to pay to get tickets to sell it out. Yeah. Yeah. No, good stuff. Yeah. So we'll link to it. It's just, I mean, take it or leave it. It's an interesting article and a cool find. |
| Unknown | Agreed. Yeah. I got another thing this week. It's a movie. Do me. It's a movie. I am blanking on what streaming service this is on. |
| Unknown | So let's take a look here. I have it pulled up on Rotten Tomato. |
| Unknown | Yeah, but it's streaming, I think, on Netflix. Well, shoot. See if you can find that. HBO Max. HBO Max. It's streaming on HBO Max. Okay. So this is a movie with, this is a movie with Zoe Kravitz, who's I think really, really great. And Aging in Reverse. It's got, yes, it's got Rita Wilson in it. It also has the actor, I'm blanking on his name, but the guy who plays Buzz, Devon Retray, the guy who plays Buzz in Home Alone, his name is Kevin, which is funny. But this is a movie called Kimmy. It's about 90 minutes. And that is the reason that I'd like to talk about it today, because this was not a comedy It was a serious sort of, I would say this is a Hitchcock inspired movie. In fact, perhaps I read one review that called it a love letter to Hitchcock. And I think that was super apt because the whole entire movie feels very Hitchcock. The way it's paced, the characters, um, the scenes, the amount of cast that's involved. The way the cast interacts with each other and the distance by which they interact with each other, very Hitchcock. And in 90 minutes, you have just enough time to tell an intricate and complicated and emotionally impactful story and not to fucking get over the top with twists and turns and complex narratives, CGI and So this movie has, I think a 90% on the standard Rotten Tomatoes ratings, which is exceptionally good. And a 53 on the audience score. And a 53 on the audience score. So after watching this, so I looked at that and I thought, well, that's interesting. I'm going to watch it and try to, and then maybe after the fact, try to analyze it. I'm kind of stumped because it was well acted. The action was good. There are a few scenes that are bordering on ridiculous. In particular, the finale, while very satisfying, is a bit ridiculous. But it wasn't offensively ridiculous. And it was fun and well done and quick. Quick in a good way. I really like this movie. So I'm not completely clear on the low audience rating. It was fun. maybe not as complex as some people might want. |
| Unknown | That's kind of what it seems like just skimming through some of the reviews. And I think we're seeing a little bit of a resurgence in this. I just watched a Jake Gyllenhaal movie that was also like, that was very much single character. There was like, I forget what it was called. It's like 911 or something like that. But it, it felt very hearkening back to the, like the OG thriller movies. It was like a play. |
| Unknown | That is, that is right. Yes. |
| Unknown | And we're, we've seen a couple of movies like that. The plays adapted sort of to be put into movies and TV shows. I like it. I'm down with that. Yeah. Yeah. |
| Unknown | Right. |
| Unknown | You want Michael Bay? |
| Unknown | Yeah. And, and that is not here in this movie. Uh, it does have some sort of commentary regarding like data collection and Alexa, but it wasn't the, the, the commentary wasn't, it's not like, uh, don't look up right where it's, Sort of feels misguided and a little bit like heavy-handed. This was very light social commentary about what might happen, but it doesn't feel like a warning. It's just like, this is a fun movie. This is science fiction, perhaps, that comes, you know, a little close to home. Yeah, it was great. I loved it. I want more 90-minute movies. That's what it made me feel like. I want more 90-minute movies. |
| Unknown | Yeah, it's tiring to sit down at eight o'clock and try to watch a two and a half hour movie. |
| Unknown | And if you haven't watched it, watch Kimmy. Zoe Kravitz is fantastic. She's really good in it. Uh, the soundtrack is great. It's like weird. It's like the soundtrack is weird. And then I was like, but I really like it. It's sort of like 1960s, 1970s, whimsical thriller music, which I don't know if it's a made up genre, but Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perhaps. Right. Anyway, great movie. Kimmy, I suggest you watch it. I'm going to. And I suggest you, you watch it too. You should. Andrew doesn't know that yet. |
| Unknown | I haven't watched it, but my assumption is that it will be 90 minutes, not poorly spent. |
| Unknown | It will be 90 minutes for sure. |
| Unknown | It's actually 89 minutes. Andrew, you got anything else? I'm a lot of things. |
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