Episode 162 - The Best Small Watches (At Least Some of Them)

Published on Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:59:00 -0800

Synopsis

Two watch enthusiasts discuss their love for small (36-38mm) watches and highlight various affordable and luxury options in that size range from brands like Traska, Laurier, Timex, Tudor, Oris, and more. They also share their preference for clean, minimalist designs over overly ornate ones. Additionally, one host recommends using gaffer tape instead of duct tape for household needs due to its durability and easy removability.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420, The Watch Cooker Podcast with your host, Andrew. I'm a good friend, Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm good. You know, I think I wish that that this slider that my fingers on right now, I think I wish it was tourney instead of pulley. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, it might be because like, I've got to like, You move your hand.
Andrew There's lots of hand motion. It's not just a finger flex or a wrist turn. It's like you have to kind of work your way down the board.
Everett If it was rolling like a proper pot, I could just do the finger twirl thing. But as it is, I can't. No. We got real problems up in the studio right now. I'm doing well. I'm enjoying some lovely scotch. courtesy of my friend Andrew. He sounds nice. Which is you. He's a very nice fellow. It's Talisker Storm. So my first time having Talisker. I've recently learned that it's the only Scotch distillery on the Island of Sky. Perhaps the only distillery, period. I don't know.
Andrew Yeah, I don't know. They just say they're the only distillery, which would make sense that they're the only distillery at all, but maybe the only Scotchery.
Everett And as we do with foreign words, at least when we know we're going to say them ahead of time, uh, we looked at pronunciation, uh, Talisker in fairness, that's an easier one. You know, I said, how do you say that? And you said it's Talisker, but we looked it up anyway, just to be sure. And, uh, the person who was doing the voice acting for that pronunciation video was Logan Roy, which having, you know, been fully engrossed in season three, Whatever, the most recent season is Succession. Made me chuckle. It's Logan Roy telling me how to say Talisker. The more you know. Thanks, Logan Roy. Yeah, no, I'm doing really well. Andrew, how are you? Good.
Andrew I have had a really good day. You know, you know, those days that like just everything goes the way you need it to.
Everett Yeah, I've heard a song about this. Yeah. By Ice Cube.
Andrew Yeah. It was that kind of day. I spent most of it making broth.
Everett If you got a beep from Kim, I'm going to be pissed. What? Never mind. Keep going.
Andrew Oh, I don't understand. I don't get most things. It's a line from the song.
Everett It's fine. Carry on. Carry on.
Andrew I spent most of the day just kind of like chilling over a five-gallon kettle making broth with my turkey bones.
Everett Was it a, was it a beer making kettle? Yeah.
Andrew Well, I mean, it's a, it's, it's just a five gallon kettle, but I own it and have used it primarily for making beer. But annually I use it for making broth with my turkey bones and that's what I did today.
Everett And the house smells delicious. It smells really good.
Andrew It's a real humid in here.
Everett It's not bad.
Andrew But my stove ran for like four or five hours today, just evaporating.
Everett And you've got gas, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gas keeps a soup at a much better boil than electric will ever do.
Andrew Ever. It is. Yes. It's terrific. That was one of the key selling points of any house that we bought this go around was a gas range. And my wife was like, I don't get why you care. And I was like, I care, you don't cook, but that's why I care.
Everett Yeah. It's, uh, I've never had it. I've never really like cared all that much. Cause I didn't know what I didn't know. Um, but having it for the first time in my life, you know, in this last year, I just like kind of check, you know, there's a couple of things that I don't think it does as well, but there, but there, I mean, it's like one thing out of a hundred Um, everything else I've just been so what doesn't it do as well? Um, you'll have to give me a moment because I remember what it was or I, when it happened, I was like, Oh, this is the thing, but I can't think of it right now. It'll come to me though.
Andrew It doesn't get as hot as fast. There's a little bit of lead time, but I have yet to find a single thing that I prefer that didn't do well in electric range to gas. Sure. It's a little harder to clean. There's more parts. Right.
Everett I don't know. I think it's easier to clean because you know what? I just take everything off. I just spray some of the low fume oven cleaner on it. Scritcha, scritcha. And then it's like totally clean. I don't do that.
Andrew I let my wife do it. I actually have no idea how she does it. It's like magic.
Everett Does it look clean afterwards though? No. No, it does. You know, we actually do have a gal that comes every two weeks and like cleans the corners and, uh, you know, the places that we don't ever get to. And she, she always wipes down the counters, wipes down the stove, but she never cleans the stove good enough for me. So the rest of the house is clean and I always clean the stove that night because she's not going to spend, you know, it takes some time and she doesn't want to spend that time. And frankly, I don't want her to spend that time. And there's crevices and she gets it. She does. She's a, she's a crevice cleaner. I'll just say that much for her. That is not any sort of innuendo or I'm going to need her number. We've offered it to you a number of times. Yeah, we should. It's getting bad. We should really. We should really talk about watches.
Andrew OK, get there. I do want this crevice cleaners phone numbers and you just text it later.
Everett I feel like I've been unduly inappropriate at the beginning of this episode. It's usually sort of like later. later in the game. And I feel like I just started off with innuendo.
Andrew Sometimes we take a hard left turn. And I think maybe that's going to just be the tone for the night. So if you're not interested in us having a fun time and drinking beer and talking watches, why are you even here?
Everett Drinking beer and whiskey. We both have. I had. A glass of beer and a glass of whiskey. Yeah. Glass of whiskey, can of beer. Yeah.
Andrew I had whiskey and I don't think anymore. You drank it. I did. I did. And now I'm on to beer, which is good because I can drink beer at a pace that, you know, I want to drink it at.
Everett Whiskey before beer. In the clear. Yeah. Or in the rear. Yes. Keep it going. So, watches. Yeah. Lil' watches.
Andrew Today we're talking lil' watches.
Everett Small, small watches.
Andrew Just the lil' buddies. And here's why. I'm in love with the Rolex Explorer. The two, the one for the yeah, the 14270.
Everett Is it 14270 or 12470? One of those two. It's 114270.
Andrew Five digit, five digit Explorer. Black dial. The 36 millimeter black dial. I'm in love with it. And anybody who isn't is a weirdo.
Everett Because it's like, it's like the, it's like the watch.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Like when I think of the watch, it's that But here's the problem. Like the band, same thing.
Andrew Yeah. Here's the problem, though. In January, they were like $5,000 to $5,000 to $6,000. With box and papers. Today, it is November 29th. Happy early birthday.
Everett You missed the bus, motherfucker.
Andrew It's no box, no papers for like eight grand. Will send me one on Reddit for $69.69. And I was like, man, that's a good deal. I was like, wait a second. That's $7,000, no box, no papers. Yeah. What the fuck?
Everett Yeah. So. Yeah, Crown and Caliber right now, like an $8,500, papers, no box.
Andrew Yeah. So that's where we are. Which begs the question, for those of us who aren't going to spend that kind of money, Or spend five years on a waitlist after having bought nine two-tone OPs to have a purchase history. What have we got? What's out there for those of us who want a small sub 38 millimeter case
Everett sport watch. I think the good news is your thesis was that there's a big disparity at the beginning of our research. At the beginning of our research, I think your emotional thesis was there just isn't very much in the way of small watches. And I think that together our research has sort of proven us otherwise. At least it's proven to us that smaller, when I say small watches, when we say small watches, we mean smaller than, you know, 40, 38 was sort of the floor when I came in. Right. Um, and, and that was like a 38 millimeter watch is small. I remember buying the SNK and sort of, um, lamenting, not lamenting, but sort of fearing the decision. Like this is going to be too small. And the Sarb, I did the same thing with the Sarb. I was like, I don't think this is going to be big enough for me. I think I'm going to get it. It's just not going to be big enough.
Everett the the scenery has changed in that regard.
Andrew Yes and the industry is catching up to that because we saw in the last five years a industry-wide trend away from the 42 to 44 millimeter watches into the 38 to 41 millimeter watches. Yeah. And in the last two to three years, we've seen quite a few new offerings in the 36 to 38. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. Prominent, prominent sort of everyday watches, not vintage watches, not retro watches, not vintage reissues, like brand new watches from up and comer companies at 36 millimeters.
Andrew Because previously the 36 to 38 size was kind of reserved for the air quotes, and this is important, the ladies' watches from the big brands. And then this little smattering of options from the big brands. Yeah. You know, you have kind of weird one-offs. Yeah. I mean, you have the Explorer, you have the Black Bay 36, you have the Prince.
Everett Black Bay 36 is brand new. Prince is relatively
Andrew These watches are still in our in the in the big hitters. You're not we're not seeing a lot in the way of really simple sport watches from other brands in that size.
Everett Can you imagine in 2015 a micro brand releasing a 36 millimeter sport watch? I mean it didn't happen for for good reason.
Andrew Yeah. No one would have. I think it would have done well because I think the market was ripe for it. But It wasn't worth the risk. Yeah. Because that's not what the market was doing at the time. Yeah. So with that being said.
Everett It is no longer 2015.
Andrew It isn't. It is the last legs of 2021. And there are.
Everett It's so late that we've already done our 2021 year in review. Yes.
Andrew But there are options out there for those of us who just aren't going to spend explorer money and maybe perhaps don't necessarily even want an explorer, but want that size watch. And there's some really dope options out there. Yeah, I think so. Cause I love me a small watch.
Everett Yeah. Do you remember your first experience with a, with like a 36 millimeter watch?
Andrew Um, Yeah, it was the OP 36 in Mexico with the Uzi guy at the door. And I put it on and I was like, Oh, it had to be an OP 36.
Everett So mine was a Datejust 36 and the fella at the counter was like, I really think you should try on the 41. You're not going to like this watch. And I was like, well, I want to try on the 36. And I put it on and I was like, yep.
Andrew Yeah. It just, right as soon as it hits, you're just like, Oh, yep. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. There's a reason that that was such a popular size for so long.
Everett And I will say I had that experience, but that's a Rolex, you know? And I think in my head I thought, well, it's different because it's a Rolex. Rolex is bigger because it's got the crown on it. You know, there's an optical illusion there. If it's a different watch, it's not going to be as as comfortable or it's not going to feel as right. My next experience was with the was with one of the watches we're going to talk about today. And so we may as well just talk about it, because this is the watch that for me kind of changed my world. And that is Laurier, our friends, Lauren and Lorenzo Ortega, the Laurier Falcon two, which they sent us a copy of that for review. and review we did.
Andrew Indeed.
Everett And I fell head over heels in love with that. Because it's awesome. The way it fits, the way it hugs the wrist, the way it like wore with a t-shirt, I could wear it with a suit. I just loved the whole thing.
Andrew And it was eye-opening. Same experience. Because the SNK It's 37. And change, yeah. Doesn't feel too big. Not by a long shot. And I think we have in our head, like, oh, the SNK is about as small as a watch as I'd ever want. And the SNK's shape lends it to seeming smaller than it is. But when you get those nice long lines of the Falcon 2, it's 36, but it's got presence. much like the OP or the Datejust or any of these other really iconic 36 millimeter watches. You're like, oh, it's not just Rolex.
Everett 36 is a perfectly appropriate size for a watch. It's a sport watch, right? So it's a little bit beefier. It's a little bit chunky or it's got whatever that thing is that we call wrist presence. It's got it. It's got it in spades.
Andrew I love the Falcon II. Everything that Laurier is doing is terrific. I think they could pair down to just the Falcon 2 and remain really viable and successful. I'm glad they have the rest of their lineup, but that is such a cool watch. That's my favorite watch that they have because it was really familiar design. It's obviously the second iteration. They're going from the Falcon 1, which was like 39 and a half, 40. Yeah, I think 40 on the dot, yeah. And I remember being right about to buy a Falcon 1 when the Falcon 2 got released and in the new 36 and I was like, glad I didn't do that. Because I think now the Falcon one I hate because I like the Falcon two. So yeah, I would not like that watch. Yeah. Yeah. Because the Falcon two is so much better in 36. It's that watch that design, that whole package is so much better in a 36.
Everett Yeah. The proportions are better. The size of the dial is better. Um, yeah, it's just, it's just, freaking killer watch.
Andrew Can we talk about the, I think my, my next favorite and what I think is maybe the best all around option in the 36 millimeter space? Sure. Sure. Hit, hit me with it, buddy. The Traska commuter. Oh yeah. That's a great watch. That is a watch that we, we didn't get one. Nope. We did not. We had, we did What do we have from them? Do we have the cemetery?
Everett Did we have the... So we had a cemetery. It didn't come from them though. I can't remember who it came from, but we've never gotten a watch from Trasca because they, they hate us. I don't blame them.
Andrew I don't blame them. Maybe after tonight I blame them. But for, for, for me, for my money, I think the commuter is the best watch available in this space. It's so simple. It's got a clean dial. And one of the things that I found in this 36 millimeter space is it's hard to find a texture free dial. It's hard to find just a simple watch. It seems like people who are being adventurous by going to 36 get adventurous with their design language also.
Everett Traska did not do that. Well, I think if there's a, uh, Criticism of Traska of the Traska commuter. It's that they didn't get adventurous at all. In fact, they sort of They came as close to copying another watch as you can get without Copying another watch.
Andrew I mean they kept their it still feels like a Traska Their lines are similar. Everything's there. It's familiar Part of it's familiar because there are a finite amount of ways to make a watch that looks attractive.
Everett And part of it's familiar because they made it look exactly like an OP.
Andrew Yeah. But how many options do you have if you want a sterile bezel, clean case lines, and just markers for indices?
Everett It's not a criticism. It just is what it is. It's a fact. That's an OP. $565.
Andrew with the Traska Invincible Steel. Super clean, simple lines, and that's what I want. I want a small, basic bitch watch, because that's what I am. I'm just like your run-of-the-mill, pumpkin spice latte drinking, basic bitch. That's what everybody says about you. That's it, and they're not wrong. But for my money, that's where I'm looking in the 36mm space, as clean and simple as possible. Because a lot of 36s, they've got texture on the dial. They've got, you know, something cool or not necessarily cool, but something different about the bracelet. They've got flair. I want flair. I want a 36 millimeter sport watch. That's as basic as I am.
Everett And, you know, these things have been sold out almost since they were released. You get 100 meters of water resistance, you get Miota 9000, you get all the good stuff, you just, it's kind of hard to get them. They come up used and they come up used for not a crazy amount of money. There's not a huge markup on these, but.
Andrew I haven't seen a markup. I've seen actually like pretty reasonable secondhand, like in the 500, 450, 500 range.
Everett Yeah, that's where I've seen them as well. And, you know, Traskett has some really interesting stuff with this watch. They've got, you know, the perlage on the clasp, and I think it's a really cool watch. And I think I may agree with you that this is... I think I may agree with you, although I'm also a sucker for a Falcon, so... Yeah, I love me a Falcon, but I think for me, for my money, what I want out of this watch, because this is... I'm shopping for a watch right now.
Andrew This is what I'm inclined to buy. I think I'm inclined to recommend people buy the Falcon.
Everett Because it's... Because you want to be able to get your Traska?
Andrew Partly that. Stop buying my things. But also because the Falcon is so damn cool. I'm just not cool. And I'm okay with that. I think what I like most about this watch is they kept the lugs super short. So they don't have long sweeping, they don't have to hug it. It's going to make it wear a little taller on the side of the wrist, I think. And I think Will did a write-up on this. So it is on the WatchClicker website for a full review and photography.
Everett And maybe, maybe Andrew will even link to that in the show notes.
Andrew Probably not.
Everett Probably not. You know, I've got one that I'd like to talk about, because I think it sort of steers away from what we've been talking about here. This is a watch that when it came out, I thought, I don't really know if this watch makes a ton of sense. And that's the Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer. No, excuse me, the Hamilton Khaki Pioneer, not the Pilot Pioneer, just the Pioneer. Um, this is a 38.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett I think I know. I think it's 36 and change. Um, and it's just, it's sort of like tonneau cased field watch is, is what it is. It's exactly what you think of when you think of, uh, when you think of a field watch, but in a tonneau case, um, They wear really well. They've got a H50 movement, which I think is the 80-hour power reserve movement. So obviously great movement. And it's just clean and elegant and field watchy. And yeah, I think actually 36 on these. With the tonneau, it probably wears a little bit bigger.
Andrew Are these fixed lugs?
Everett It is. It is Vix Lux if I remember right. It looks like it, that's why I asked. Yeah, if I remember correctly, it is Vix Lux.
Andrew Because CWC, I think they call it the G10, has a very similar field watch. And I think it's similarly sized. I don't think it's this price. I think it's that many money, but in pounds as opposed to dollars, because this comes in at about 600 bucks. But that's it. That's a field watch. That's a classic field watch. That size, that shape. And who better to get a field watch from than Hamilton?
Everett That's right. It's a field watch company making a field watch, modern movement, modern finishing. You do have to put up a vintage loom. I think on most of these, if not all of these.
Andrew But not the dial throughout. Yeah. You know, your markers are white, which is nice. So there's just a little bit of vintage-y loom action.
Everett Well, since you bring them up, let's talk about the G10s, the CWC and the Pulsar. Yeah. Because these are not only sort of like aesthetically or aesthetically I hate that word. You use it a lot. Appropriately, field watches. Field watches. But these are actually field watches, right? They're not field watch. The CWC G10 and the Pulsar G10, formerly CWC and then, you know, making stuff is expensive. And so then the Pulsar G10, these are both 36 and change field watches. Same basic dial layout as the Hamilton Khaki Pioneer. uh which is the the g10 style layout um both quartz watches i believe you can get these for you know the pulse are anywhere from 150 to 250 on on ebay typically you can buy the cwc direct from the website i think 250 to 350 pounds depending on if you want tritium or not yeah that's right that's right and so what is that 350 to 400 or something like yeah yeah so
Andrew I was thinking that the W10 was that same case shape as the Pioneer. Sure.
Everett Not the G10. Right. G10 is the swoopier. But these are great. I mean, these are great. And they're small. I got my Pulsar. So, you know, one of the things you said about the Rolex or the sport watches is that they have some presence to them, right? It's a sport watch. So it's just got a little bit more case to it. My Pulsar G10 does not. No, it's like wearing an F91. It is skinny and thin and shallow all around and it still wears great.
Andrew But it's because it's so small. It wears, I mean an F91 wears great. These G10s wear great. That's their design is to be totally unencumbering functional tools.
Everett Yeah. No flash. The 20 millimeter lug width I think helps with that too because the strap carries a little bit of presence on its own.
Andrew Yes. And I think those, that proportion is really, really good. That 36 case to a 20, 30, 36 to 18 is, is appropriate, but 36 to 20 is just, it's, it's delightful.
Everett It is. Yeah. You know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna take it back that 40 and 20 is, uh, the Goldilocks zone because we're, we're too deep. Yeah, we're in it. We're too deep now to take it back. But I think that 40 may be the outer edge of that, right? That's actually a real reflection of what the scene was when we started, right? We started the show in fall of 2018. Here we are three years later, and it's like, Well, 40 and 20 almost doesn't make sense now because 40 is too big. Everybody knows that 40 is too big. A 40 millimeter watch is just way too big. It's outrageous. You can make a 40 millimeter watch.
Andrew I know, I'm joking. Wear it really well. But when we started, 40 was like, that was the floor. That was, that was, you know, scraping the gunk off the floor.
Everett We were being a little bit, uh, we were being a little bit controversial. Yeah. It's like, give me 40, right? That was. Yeah.
Andrew Here we are now, you know, we may be thirty six and twenty thirty.
Everett We're starting today for four millimeters. That's what happens. It's a lot of girth. What's up next? So we've talked. So we've talked about we've talked about this micro brand sport watches because I think that those are great places to start. Super affordable. Five hundred dollars. We've talked about both automatic and quartz. British field watches. Basically, you know, very similar watches. Where do we go? Where do we go from here? Because I think it gets a little weird from here.
Andrew We got to take, I think, a hard left turn for a little bit. Steer me left. We got to talk about watches like the Retromagic and the EMG Horizon. Right. We got to talk square watches. That's what that's what I'm getting at. Yeah. We got to talk square watches.
Everett And how big is the Retromatic?
Andrew Thirty. Thirty eight. Thirty eight. Yeah. And then the the so it's thirty eight. And then the metric is thirty six.
Everett That's right. So the metric which I tried on in New York is thirty six. And it does not wear like a thirty six. Because it's square. That's right. That's right. And the Retromatic doesn't wear like 38. It wears closer to 40, I'd say. And these are sort of weird analogs.
Andrew But it's not. And I think that's an important distinction to make because in the world where we are looking for a smaller diameter watch, it's easy to be deceived by the smallness of square and rectangular watches. Because if you think about like the Santos Medium, I think that's 38. And that's as big as I could possibly want it. It wears beautifully. The Santos Large would be like wearing a damn pizza box on your wrist. It's big, yeah. It's big. But that brings in almost the PSA around how square watches might carry with them a small size, but don't carry with them a small fit. Yeah. So what do you want to talk about first?
Everett Do you mean in terms of square watches? Yeah, I think we should we should talk about a couple of them. Yeah, so I might as well just start with the Brumetric. That's the latest watch from John Ferrer. The Brumetric is a 36 millimeter, which feels adventurously small. And I don't think it is. I think that he could have gotten away with with even 34 on that and still been well within the realm of acceptable. I don't think that's what he's trying to do with that watch. It's got flared lugs. It's a square case. It wears overall much bigger than a 36 millimeter watch. Not to mention that watch. Can I just say, I was talking to some guys today, I really think that is an excellent platform for John to get weird with it. I think in terms of colors, he could do just about anything with that watch. He started off with two, I think, pretty safe colorways.
Andrew Which aren't safe at all. There's teal and yellow and orange. But I think he could get weird with it.
Everett Oh, he absolutely could. I think he could go like Charlotte Hornets teal and purple. I think he could and should go navy and orange. Yeah.
Andrew I think he could do... I think everyone should do a navy and orange iteration.
Everett I think he could get really weird with that watch and still have it feel really conservative. Not conservative, but... delightfully, safely adventurous.
Andrew That's because of the way he used the color palette on that. The primary. I mean, it's like it's almost a stoplight. Seconds hand where you can have all kinds of fun and it's like we're in fun socks and a tuxedo. Everything else is there. Everything else is super conservative, really clean. And then you've these these little splashes flourishes, if you will, of of color that add to the watch, but don't pull away any of that really refined, really clean look.
Everett Yeah, that's perfect. I love the tux, the, the, the fun socks with, with the tuxedo reference. Cause, cause I think that that, that just about nails it. Yeah. You know, I don't know if he's going to it for his plans. We're not really making suggestions cause that's not something we do, but, but super fun watch and conservatively sized, but also not at all small.
Andrew Which I think sort of forces us now to move on to the next area of square watches, which is the pure kind of Monaco style. The actual square. The actual full square. And I use Monaco because that is the pioneer of this shape. And I don't think that any watch can ever use a square case again without being directly compared to the Monaco. And I think that's reasonable. Monaco's come in at 38 millimeters. Uh, I think there's probably some smaller sizes, but as they stand now, they're at 38. Um, or there doesn't matter. I think the Monaco is a little bigger. I think they're a little bigger. Yeah. It doesn't matter. The horizon is what I want to talk about by EMG. And as of right now, you can't buy them from their website, but yeah, no, they've been sold out for 38 by 38 perfect square. And this watch, wears big. It does, yeah. Big and you wouldn't think so because 38 suggests it's going to be comfortably small. It's a good size watch. I like it. It's appropriately sized. Yeah, yeah. But you cannot buy a 38 millimeter square watch and thinking you're buying a small watch.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a statement watch, right? Everything about that watch is a statement. Oh, yeah.
Andrew And on the on the cork strap. Yeah, man. I really like that watch.
Everett Yeah. You know, I think in the grand scheme of things, sitting where I am now, I think that watch might be a little bit steers a little bit too much to the homage for my my genuine pleasure. But everything about the experience wearing that watch was enjoyable.
Andrew Because it's comfortable. On the strap that they chose, it was comfortable. The size is comfortable. The manipulations are really comfortable. I wish there were more pure squares in the world. I just, I do. I wish more companies were doing them, but you could size them at, you know, 34 to 36 and still have very appropriately sized true wrist presence watches. that are attractive and I think, I think would be, would do really well. Yeah. Cause I would buy a couple. Damn it. What? Well, Speedy Fit's okay today.
Everett You know, I, I think, uh, I'm getting fat because I just put your Manta on, I put your Atlas on and it's a, it's maxed out, uh, in terms of the adjust. I need to put a half link on. I think you do. I think you do. Uh, because I can't get it bigger and it's squeezing my wrist. But the Speedmaster looks really good on you. It does.
Andrew Fuck. I just broke up with the Speedmaster. I just did this last week. I broke up with the Speedmaster. Because it doesn't fit right. Today it does. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Yeah. Well, good news.
Everett We done broke up. You know, there's, um, There's another micro brand I'd like to talk about that's doing a smaller watch. Veyr is doing a 36 millimeter watch. So they do. Yes, they are. They do both of their A3, the automatic field watch and the S3, which I think is basically the same watch, but a quartz version. And they do those both in 36 millimeters.
Andrew And they're killer. yeah the the only reason i don't have one isn't because they were sold out for a long period of time because they're back in stock they look like they have a killer bracelet which is no they do so i tried all these on i tried basically every version of this watch and on in new york and they're all excellent it's the vintage loom yeah that's a hang-up for me just just do a black or white without vintage loom yeah that's a problem for me too And that's just what, I mean, I'm, I'm okay with vintage loom on some applications. Cause I, I mean, I'm not as vehemently against it as you are. You're very against it. I'm good in some applications. I'm not in the 36 millimeter field watch application. I want white loom there.
Everett Yeah. You know, I don't know if I'm dead against it. I'm not against it for anybody else. I just know I wouldn't like it.
Andrew Well, yeah, no, I think that's, you're against it in your, in your application, your purchasing.
Everett That's right. For, for my own taste, it wouldn't work for me. Um, but, but I will say there is really maybe more than any micro brand company out there right now. The King of options, right? They, they give you courts, they give you, uh, automatic, they give you in some option, in some instances, solar, uh, us assembled or not. Jubilee oyster, um, They do give a ton of options. Thus far, it seems like that is not an option that they've been willing to offer.
Andrew Because I don't know, I go to their website. In my hunt for a 36, I'm at Vayner's website once a week probably. I look at it and I'm like, still a no.
Everett Can we talk about Smith's Everest, which I think is actually the watch that brought us here?
Andrew It is. And I think we need to. It's the one. I think, for me. It's just not available. You can't get it. If you've ever tried to buy something from Smiths, you get my problem.
Everett They have, uh, like an open period for their store. Yeah, they do. They have an e-commerce store. It's no pre-orders, no nothing. But actually, I think pre-orders, this is one company that could really benefit from pre-orders.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Because they sell out borderline instantly, right?
Andrew No, 100% instantly. So this last week, I've been trying to buy the PRS 25 Aventurine dial that they're doing 500 of. Yeah. I've tried to buy it on the last two releases. The first one, I got up early. I'm sitting on my phone. Hit refresh at 559 and 55 seconds. It refreshed. I hit add to cart. I clicked check out. And when I clicked check out, I was informed that the product I was trying to buy was sold out. I was like, well, that's unusual. This motherfucker was just in my cart. And that's when I learned about bot buying and I was like, okay, whatever.
Everett Have you considered setting up a bot for it?
Andrew Let me tell story number two. Okay. This last week they did another drop and I don't know how many more they're going to do. I'm, I'm kind of, I'm wondering how many they're selling each of these releases. Yeah, I don't know. Um, so this last Sunday I did the same thing, but I got to payment information and then was notified that the item I was trying to buy was sold out. still within the what was my time 0600 time period. We're not even a full minute through the open period and this watch is sold out. But it's not also, it's also not on hold in my cart, which is annoying. It doesn't get held when you put it in the cart. Yeah. So I might be now exploring the options of getting a bot, but the Everest is
Everett straight Explorer homage. And as we've discussed on our Watches of Everest episode, which if you haven't listened to it, you should go back and listen to it. Probably the watch that summited Everest. Yeah.
Andrew Which is so which maybe makes the Explorer the homage to the Smith's Everest. So maybe it's the OG.
Everett I don't think that that's accurate, but spiritually, emotionally, perhaps. Yes. So What we do know is the Everest came out on top. We don't know which watch Sampadid. We think the Smith Sampadid. We know that the Everest won. Yes. Excuse me. We know that the Explorer won.
Andrew Yes. The dangers of marketing. Victor's right to history. So we've got a great 36 millimeter watch. It's a fucking Explorer. If you've seen an Explorer, you've seen a Smith's Everest. Mercedes hands.
Everett cardinal number cardinal numeral markers the rest are indices it's it's much more an explorer than the smith's watch that that perhaps summited was an explorer yeah here's the problem i have with the everest though that riveted bracelet yeah riveted bracelet that's a thing i don't i don't love i know you're not a fan either which is why i haven't
Andrew Tried to buy it. No, secondary market, most secondary market micro brand watches are about a hundred dollars or more less than retail. Often. Yup. The Smiths are double retail. Like we're, we're looking at like Rolex inflation for the Smiths Everest, which is kind of confusing, but I've been trying to get the aventurine dial. because they have a jubilee. Yeah. And then I could sell the aventurine watch to acquire the black watch and then have the jubilee on the Everest, which is what I want.
Everett If you wind up with both of them, I might take, I might take the combo that you don't work off your hands.
Andrew The aventurine and rivet bracelet. Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't like the rivet bracelet and I've tried to make myself like it. I've done some like exposure therapy and it's not working.
Everett Yeah, you know Tudor does a rivet bracelet too. I feel like it's a little bit like vintage loom, right? Like this is a fake thing. This isn't a real thing. If it was real rivets, I'd be into it. But it's not because real rivets kind of suck. They do, yeah. And so, oh, a fake riveted bracelet feels a little bit contrived. I mean, is literally contrived.
Andrew It makes me think of like an Invicta dive watch with like a Swiss Army tool bracelet. Like, you know, those bracelets that you can open up and you've got like a flathead and a Phillips and like the Leatherman. Yeah. That's what it makes me think of. It's obviously not that grotesque, but it's, equally offensive to me and I have no reason for it to be that offensive because you know maybe you like it and that's perfectly reasonable if you do. Sure. It's just not what I want. I want a clean, sleek sport watch without like lumps on the side.
Everett Yeah, without just weird shit, unnecessary weird shit.
Andrew Yeah, I want less is more. Like I just I just want plain dial with markers, sterile bezel, clean bracelet. Is that too much to fucking ask?
Everett Yeah, no, it's one of those things, right? You can't always get what you want.
Andrew But you usually can in the watch world. So love the one you're with, Andrew. I do. I love the Atlas.
Everett I've been wearing the Atlas a lot. No, I meant me. Oh, you're okay. Okay, what else do we got? We've got a few. You know, there's one I want to talk about because it's a new watch. It just came out, or I guess it didn't just come out, but it came out relatively recently, but the Timex Expedition North. Field Post 36. It's a weird name.
Andrew It's a really Timexy name.
Everett I think Field Post is like I think field post is like one of these like hunting locations that you might show up at or like perhaps research station I think is the yeah like a like a research station or perhaps like a wartime post office they call them field posts in any event it took me a while where I was like field post 36 anyway weird name But they've got a 36 millimeter of essentially what, you know, many people have pointed out is very similar to a Hamilton khaki mechanical that Hamilton khaki field mechanical, very similar watch for some very good reasons, which we've talked about on the show before, but not a Hamilton design in any event.
Andrew Uh, is nobody's design. Nobody came up with this first. The army came up with this design.
Everett It's a 36 millimeter field watch with solar power, 40 hours of power reserve. I think it's 40 hours of power reserve or excuse me, 40 days of solar power reserve, not 40 hours.
Andrew 40 days is more appropriate.
Everett Yeah. 40 days of solar power reserve. Um, great size, great aesthetic. I think that their expedition north is their, one of their newer lines of sort of, I think that this signals Timex deciding to command some respect again. They're standing up for themselves. They're going to do their hair toss, check their nails.
Andrew Yeah, they're getting off the Walmart spinner towers.
Everett I think that's what's happening here. And when you look at the marketing, it's deliberate. It's aesthetically pleasing. There's this, it's obviously been paid for. You know, like they didn't phone it in on anything with this watch, which, you know, who cares about marketing? But what I do think it signals is Timex is being deliberate. And I love it. I love to know that Timex cares in that way. We've been hoping for it for the last two years. Yeah, that's right. We've talked about it a hundred times.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett And they're doing it. Finally. Who cares about the marketing? The marketing is whatever. But the fact that they're doing the marketing that they care.
Andrew They are. It means that they see it. They're back. We've got the pivot. It's coming.
Everett And so you can do this. You know, I think it's a 41. Well, I think they've got a 41 millimeter watch, but also a 38 and a 36 in this Expedition North Field Post.
Andrew 36 is 160 bucks on Amazon.
Everett Solar 36. Damn. Yeah. It's a great. It's a really attractive watch, too.
Andrew It is the field watch. That's right 24-hour ring really classic style case 100 meters of water resistance, which actually stands out in that segment and that design I don't think my I don't think my khaki field is 100. It might be I think they're 50 Yeah, I think that's I think that's sort of the standard for most field watches. It's 50 So, you know the g-10s the w-10s 50 meters. I think five Adam. I think my pulse are
Everett I think my Pulsar might be just water resist.
Andrew Because it's steel and steel by its nature doesn't get wet on the inside.
Everett That's right. If you get water on the steel parts, it won't go through the steel.
Andrew Yeah. So 160 bucks on the Amazon right now. I like these. Even with vintage loom, I think I could accept this. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a very, it's that really classic field watch. I can accept vintage loom on that. I don't know why. My acceptance or non-acceptance of vintage loom is purely arbitrary. Now, yes, now.
Everett I, you know, the downsides to this watch are purely sort of Vain, right? It's purely vanity. It's a Timex. That's right. It's a Timex. It's quartz. But it's solar. It's solar quartz. Yeah, I just think it's a killer watch. I think the next couple of years. It's got some booty. It's a little thick, too. They could have done a little bit.
Andrew It's 12 millimeters thick?
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. It's a little bit ass. Yeah. That's all right. We like them thick.
Everett It's true.
Andrew I can't deny that. I think, I think we'll see the, uh, it's just a Timex kind of pass in the next couple of years. Cause the Timex is going to win some cool shit with the Waterbury line that they're dropping. Uh, they've got a lot of hand winds coming out, like Jaguar stuff. I think they're doing enough to overcome that.
Everett It's a Timex. Yeah, no, but they, they do have, they do have to do some work to distance themselves from the, uh, from the Walmart. rotary, what'd you call it?
Andrew The Walmart spinner rack?
Everett The spinner rack, yeah.
Andrew Yeah, it's not even locked. When your shit's not locked at Walmart, that's a bad sign. When your shit starts getting locked up in the jewelry case at Walmart, you've made it.
Everett Yeah, that's right. I think that they have got to do some work to distance themselves from that. And frankly, their bread and butter is probably that $25 to $45 watch. So I don't know that they would be inclined to drop that.
Andrew I think that's going to add some charm to it because Timex is never going to distance themselves from Snoopy. There's never going to. There's always Peanuts watches out there by Timex.
Everett But a Peanuts watch doesn't mean cheap, right?
Andrew Because as you just said, there's Snoopy on a dozen Speedmaster iterations. But when people think Omega, they don't think speedy with Snoopy. When people think Timex, they do think Red Baron three-handers. With the Red Baron on the second hand spinning around the watch.
Everett I think what Timex needs to do is they need to create some space for them to have branding for the... What's the name of the meme with the guy who's like tapping his head? I don't know. The guy that looks vaguely like Arsenio Hall, like... Yeah, I know what you're doing. They need... I know who you're talking about. They need to have some space to have like the highbrow guy to look down and see like, ooh, I know what that is.
Andrew They need to have their luxury line more well-defined, yeah. That's right.
Everett And I think they'll have that. I think that this is a step in that direction, right? You've got the Timex Marlin, you've got the Waterberries, which maybe to a lesser extent, you're starting to see those watches from Timex that are kind of, and Timex Q perhaps,
Andrew Yeah, the NaviOcean is even getting there. They're doing some really cool stuff with the NavOcean.
Everett I'm hoping that they can continue this Expedition North, you know, maybe like a Protrek type, not exactly the same, but like when you see a Protrek, you're like, I know that that's a cool watch.
Andrew You bought that watch on purpose. That's right. And either you were a douche or you're very cool and I want to know you.
Everett You know, we've talked a lot about affordable watches because that's what we talk about. But I think it bears mentioning that if you're willing to spend a little bit more scratch, and when I say a little bit more, I mean sometimes a little bit more, sometimes a lot more. There are so many options. Yes. Tudor, famously has their BB-36. Which I love.
Andrew And it is, that's a thick ass girl. It's a big booty girl.
Everett It wears so comfortably. They've got their Tudor Prince, which not really available in the US. I mean, certainly available, but not really intended for our market. It's a JDM, yeah. Which is far more comfortable. Is it JDM? I don't think it's JDM. It's a Swiss watch. It seems pretty JDM. Well, I don't think it's made in Japan, but maybe intended for that market. Either way. It is definitely not something that's marketed towards Americans. And it is svelte. It is. Oh my gosh. It's a Datejust is what it is. I mean, it's hard to separate that watch from the Datejust. Tudor, if any company has the right to homage the Datejust, it's Tudor. It's the little brother. Right. You know, Oris, basically Every watch in their catalog, maybe not every watch, but many, many, many of the Oris watches come in more conservatively sized watches. I know the Aquus comes in a like a 36 and a half or a 37 millimeter, which didn't think I'd like put it on. Loved it. Yeah. Um, Oris just has a ton of stuff in 36 millimeter Norcane. Yep. Ton of stuff in 36 millimeters. Uh, Rado, their captain cook, I think comes in a 36 or a 36 and something else and something else. Um, or is I think, or is just today or yesterday, uh, did a new big crown pro pilot in 36. So there are a ton of options, you know, which is unusual to me, which is not even to mention the big R. Not even to mention IWC, not even to mention JLC, Patek. I mean, as you go up in price, the options for small watches really... The Santos Medium.
Andrew That's right. Is the best fitting watch I've ever put on. Putting it on was a curse because now I need one. I don't just want it, I need it. You put it on and it becomes a part of you. That just gently curved case, that beautifully articulating bracelet, and you're just like, well, fuck. Here we are. This is where I am now, and I need to be here again. It's like what I imagine meth is like. Right.
Everett And not to be all Auras fanboy, because I don't think we're Auras fanboys, We're sponsored by ORS. Isn't everyone? Yeah, everybody's sponsored by ORS. ORS just released their rectangular, all four of these, you know, very primary colored rectangular watches. I think blue, red, yellow, and maybe like an olive, which these are even smaller than what we've been talking about. It's a tank, what I would call a tank style watch. but I think that they're like 26. Oh, I could do that. It's a big tall wreck. It's a tank style rectangular. Uh, so, so it's a, it's, it's not gonna feel like a diminutive watch, but at 26 millimeters across or 25 and a half, something like that.
Andrew Uh, they're small. They're too grand. Uh, they're 25 and a half across 38 lug to lug. That's going to be really nicely sized. Yeah. Yeah. Two grand. It's, uh, I think it's, olive is the best way to describe that. Taupe, maybe? Yeah. That's a weird color.
Everett Vaguely ground. Yeah. Earth.
Andrew Yeah. I like those. Fuck.
Everett That sucks. Andrew, I'm all about, I'm all out of watches. For the day. For the week, perhaps.
Andrew Are you lost without me? I am so lost. I get that. I have that effect on people.
Everett With that in mind, other things.
Andrew What do you got? I have an especially timely other thing. Tell me. And this is for all of you.
Everett We just had Thanksgiving a week ago today. If you're listening to this on Thursday, it's been a week ago today. So that carcass. Make some broth out of it. It's starting to go stinky. It's going to, if it hasn't already, it's going to be a little stank.
Andrew Hopefully it's in your fridge, not on your counter, right?
Everett If it's on the counter, we're going to, we're going to recommend you toss it per FDA guidelines. It's dry aged. Here's my recommendation. Cut the pellicose off.
Andrew Yeah. Uh, So I'm always trying to figure out what to do with leftovers because I typically don't like leftovers. So I try to repurpose them. Today, I did the best repurposing of Thanksgiving meal that I've ever done.
Everett Tell me more.
Andrew I'm intrigued. I went to the store. I bought waterfront sourdough bread. So the Seattle's best waterfront sourdough. It's just a big, it's a, it's a round sourdough loaf, but sliced. So you have long fat slices.
Everett Okay. So it's, it's not like a bag loaf sourdough. It's like a real rustic.
Andrew No, it's bag loaf sourdough, but round loaf. So you have long slices. That's important. You got some Swiss cheese. I got some provolone. I took some of the leftover ham, because I like ham on Thanksgiving and Christmas, so we do ham, and turkey, and I made Cubans. I shredded some of that turkey, sliced the ham as thin as I could, and made Cubans on that sourdough bread with Swiss and provolone. I used a devil's spit Pickles in mine, regular pickles in everyone else. That was the best used use of leftover turkey that I have ever found. Because the flavors really melt. Because I brine my turkey, so the meat is just more than roasted turkey. It's got like very herbal flavors. Yeah, brine is the truth. Which makes it hard to use it for leftovers for anything else. Those flavors perfectly melted into those cheeses, the mustard, the pickle, and a Cuban's a super simple sandwich. For those of you who are somehow unfamiliar with a Cuban, it's- Watch Jon Favreau, chef. Yep. It's a pulled pork, ham, Swiss cheese, pickle mustard sandwich.
Everett Watch Jon Favreau, chef. Impressed. Was that your other thing like a month ago?
Andrew Chef Show was. Oh.
Everett It was basically which is a spinoff.
Andrew It's a spinoff. Make some Cubans with your leftover ham and turkey or just go get some deli ham and make some Cubans with your leftover turkey. It is a great analog for pulled pork.
Everett Also, can I just say right now, because this is something I've known this for a while, but it's not something I always knew. There are two Jon Favreaus.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett There is the actor, comedian, Very talented, Jon Favreau. There was also the very progressive journalist, Jon Favreau, and also talented, I think, but very different. They're very different. And so there was a time in my life where I thought Jon Favreau was just this like super enigmatic dual personality guy. As did I. Because I only knew of Jon Favreau. Jon Favreau From the movies?
Andrew Swingers, yeah. And I was like, why is this guy so prolific elsewhere?
Everett And then via Twitter. And I was like, man, this guy really tweets a lot. He really gets it.
Andrew Not the same guy. Different guys. Not the same guy at all. No, I was a little older than appropriate before I realized that also.
Everett Yeah. I'm not going to admit how recently I learned that. Who is this morning?
Andrew I want to cube it. Oh, it was good. I thought about making you one, but I wasn't sure if you were back on Keto or not. And I always feel bad asking if you're on Keto.
Everett Never feel bad. You can always ask. Because the answer is either yes or no. And I'm not like that guy. If I'm on Keto, I feel fine about being on Keto. I'm not going to like have regrets.
Andrew Yeah, but I just feel bad. I don't want to like tempt you off of Keto.
Everett You're not going to tempt me if I'm on Keto. I'll just be like, sorry, but I'm on Keto. All right.
Andrew Well, maybe I should make you Keto. I apologize. But also, Uh, Cuban's usually made out of like Cuban bread, but making it on sourdough and I used my grill pan for it. Sourdough is the perfect grill frying bread. Yeah. Yeah, it really is. It crisps up really nice. It stays really fluffy, man. These were the best Cubans I've ever made. And I've made a good amount of Cubans on varying types of bread, but this was, this was it. Just spicy brown mustard, a little bit of mayonnaise and devil spit pickles. That's my other thing. Wish I could have one. That's how you, this is a, an outlet for some of your Thanksgiving turkey. If you're tired of turkey sandwiches, make a Cuban.
Everett Andrew, do you have a go to tape? Like if, if you need to do something with tape, do you have like, I mean, obviously different tape is going to be better for different applications, but do you have like a preferred tape that you use when you need to do something with tape?
Andrew No, because every tape has a different application. Fair enough. I understand your question and I think you're trying to, I see where you're at. The answer is no, but it's also because I'm not like a duct tape fixes all kind of guy. Right. But I think most people, I think not most, I think many people are a brute force and duct tape type people. Yeah. But not, no, I have, I've probably 25 rolls of tape in my garage.
Everett all of different styles and sizes. So, so, so fair enough, right? Because I have a lot of different kinds of tape too and I use different tapes for different things. Um, but I would say it, it, at some point in the, in the fairly recent past, I was kind of a duct tape guy, right? Like if I needed to do something with tape and it wasn't a really specific application, I just needed a tape to do tape things. I would use duct tape, right? Because duct tape is, fairly removable, depending on the surface you put it on. It's strong. It adheres to everything. It does. You know, it's just a really practical tape. And so practical that people do all sorts of cool shit with duct tape, right? They make wallets and... I haven't had a duct tape wallet for a long time. Like full tuxedos and... Right? The duct tape is cool. And it does things really well. I have, so this has been kind of a long time. So this has probably been about two years since I make this change, but it's sort of fresh on my mind because I recently ran out and had to order some more. Oh, that's a good sign that you have to order it. But I ordered another roll of gaffer tape. I think gaffer tape is something that is meant for use by gaffers, people who do, uh, you know, staging and sound equipment and camera equipment, people who are fixing things to other things in a high paced, uh, environment.
Andrew Right. So need some longevity out of that fix.
Everett It needs to be, it needs to have longevity, but it also needs to be removable. It needs to be movable, perhaps even re-affixable. Anyway, I don't know how I found this stuff, you know, if I read something or like, but gaffer tape is weird.
Andrew You went down a rabbit hole looking for tape? That doesn't sound like you at all.
Everett Gaffer tape has completely, almost completely replaced duct tape in my arsenal.
Andrew I think it's a more appropriate application for most people.
Everett Have you used gaffer tape?
Andrew Yes, I have a roll in the garage.
Everett So you're familiar. Gaffer tape is, it's fabric. It's fabric. It's not quite as strong at an adhesive as duct tape.
Andrew But it's really close. It also doesn't melt the same way duct tape does. I think it's more temperature resistant and more, it's got a longer lifespan.
Everett That's right. It stays removable for longer. You can take it off. You can put it on the floor. It's gonna, if you need to put duct tape on the floor, it's going to act exactly like duct tape in my experience.
Andrew But it will actually come off without a razor knife.
Everett That's right. It will come off. Um, you know, doing what we do with microphones and wires and stuff is actually the preferred application for that. And it would be perfect for that. You know, you, you use a little bit of tape, you tape the thing, and then when you're done with it, you pull it off. Um, I have started using it for, nearly everything. It's like I said, it's been about two years, but I, anytime I need tape, I use it. Now I wouldn't use it on a, on a, on shipping, right? Like packages.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett Cause I think packaging tape for that you use packaging tape a and B it's, it's just too easy to take off. Right.
Andrew So, but then what's weird about the adhesive is it's easy to take off, but it also holds like a motherfucker.
Everett Crazy good hold and easy to take off.
Andrew It splits easily because most people don't need the full width of tape. Like when you're using medical tape, nobody needs the two inches of surgical tape that you have on that roll.
Everett However, if you're ordering gaffer tape, order two inches because you can tear. It tears so well. It tears better than duct tape. Super clean. Yep. Clean, straight lines. You can get, you know, if you need it to actually be straight, I'd recommend cutting it. But if you don't mind a ragged edge, it's going to be very straight. I just love it. It's sort of like one of those things that I discovered and I was like, this is kind of mind blowing how good this is.
Andrew And why don't more people use it? The answer is it's more expensive than duct tape. That's why more people don't use it.
Everett It's pretty expensive. I think the last roll I bought was two by a whole bunch of feet. It's like duct tape size roll and it was 18 bucks. So more expensive for sure.
Andrew Yeah. And if you're using it like you would typically use duct tape, continue to use duct tape because it's duct tape is much cheaper.
Everett Yeah, if you're, yeah, well, shit, I don't know, man, two years, I think the last two by, whatever the big rolls are, lasted me almost two years, right? And I used it, I've used it camping, I've used it, I mean, shit, I don't know, everything.
Andrew Heavy duct tape users can use a roll a week.
Everett Yeah, that's right. If you're using it like that. Yeah. Maybe stay with duct tape. Yeah. Yeah, if you're making wallets. I think a gaffer tape wallet would be nice. Yeah, right. Well, I don't know. It's kind of soft. It gets a little, like, grimy. So does duct tape. The adhesive, like, leaks through the outside.
Andrew So does duct tape. Yeah. Which you shouldn't because it's like a totally synthetic outside. I don't know. It's mind-numbing.
Everett Anyway, that's my other thing for the week is gaffer tape. That's a weird other thing. That's a good other thing.
Andrew That's a good, good little thing that you should have in your house. Get yourself some gaffer tape. Unless you have no reason to use tape ever.
Everett And frankly, I don't know if there are differences in quality between gaffer tape. I'm sure there are. This last roll I bought, I bought I think a little bit higher quality than my first roll and the quality is negligible but noticeable.
Andrew Saying there's a real professional grade gaffer tape from gaffer power for 18 bucks?
Everett I think
Andrew let me see let me see pro tapes pro gaffer tape for six bucks from bnh photo so there's there's got to be a disparity in uh yeah so what i got is the gaffer power i got it in navy blue oh because that's not just a nice color it isn't it's a very pleasing color andrew are we all done there's a i'm no we're not i have found a roll of tape that costs $166. Is it Gaffer tape? No.
Everett Is it printed with Vantablack?
Andrew It's the 3M 8979N nuclear grade duct tape, 2 inches by 60 yards red, strong waterproof backing, resists UV, moisture and rain. What is nuclear grade duct tape? Oh, I don't know. It's $40 a roll. So for three rolls, that's why it's $107. Okay, I don't know what nuclear grade means. I might buy some.
Everett Yo, what does nuclear grade mean? Let me see, let me see, let me see. Fuck, I don't know.
Andrew There's no ISO standard to it. I'm just going to start calling our stuff nuclear grade.
Everett Nuclear grade duct tape. You can get it in silver. Jeez. Thanks, 3M.
Andrew Yeah, no kidding. They do some good stuff, except you're pro. Did you join that class action?
Everett I did not, but I could have. Yeah, I joined that. Did you get like four bucks?
Andrew No, I got nothing. You got nothing. At least that I know of. Backstory, 3M had a issue with their hearing protection. They provided the military and there was a big class action lawsuit. Most people got like six dollars.
Everett Lesson learned. This was class action. Don't buy, don't sell shit to the military because.
Andrew Because you'll pay out a billion dollars. Joe will sue you. And the real victims will get six bucks. So real lesson learned is sue the company by yourself. Go, go in alone.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Uh, very expensive, very expensive to do that lawsuit. I think the only way you do the lawsuit is by way of class action, but or living off trust fund.
Andrew True story. Yep. So anything else you got for today? I'm done. I'm all out of love. I'm all out of things. Find you a 36 millimeter watch. Next time you see one, try one on. And you're gonna be in the same position I am. Buy a Pulsar G10 from eBay. I don't want a G10.
Everett Or a Falcon 2. We've talked about this. Hey, you guys, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the Watch Clicker podcast. You can check us out on Instagram at 40 and 20 or at Watch Clicker. If you want to check out the website, you can do that at watchclicker.com. We post reviews, articles, uh recommend articles just about every week sometimes multiple times per week we've got new contributors all the time recommend it if you want to support what we're doing at watch clicker you can do that at patreon.com slash 40 and 20 honestly you guys it really really helps and we appreciate every one of you who's already supporting you're keeping the lights on and don't forget to turn back in next thursday for another hour of watches food drinks, life and other things we like.
Andrew Buh-bye.