Episode 97 - Watch Iterations(with Mike Razak)

Published on Wed, 02 Sep 2020 22:43:44 -0700

Synopsis

This podcast episode features a discussion with Mike Rejczak, a watch reviewer for The Watch Clicker, The Time Bum, and Two Broke Watch Snobs. They talked about the pros and cons of iterative watch releases, where brands release new versions of existing models with minor changes like different colors or case sizes. They analyzed examples like Tudor's "Blue Bay" release and the recent updates to Rolex's lineup. The conversation explored whether these iterative releases are merely marketing ploys or serve a business purpose for the brands. They also discussed limited edition watches and touched on other topics like TV shows, books, and personal anecdotes.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. This is 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your host, Andrew, and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? I'm so good, man. Better now? I'm muted. You are, and we were just talking about how you sometimes don't unmute me.
Everett Wouldn't it be great if this is like your first time listening, you got your kids in the back,
Andrew I think that I'm really sort of getting into a rhythm of life.
Everett everything's just coming together it's gonna be it's all roses from here I can tell.
Andrew Also your beard is back and in full strength I really appreciate it I like you better with a beard.
Everett I trimmed it man I trimmed it pretty pretty aggressively.
Andrew You did but it's but it's still a beard I didn't like the the bald face and I didn't like the goatee I didn't like any of those things for like in my my view of you now you are bearded you know and you have long hair when I imagine you which is strange because that's not ever how I've
Everett I haven't had hair for years, years and years and years. I left a little heavy on the mustache. I can tell. Yeah, nobody's mentioned it, but.
Andrew I can tell.
Everett A little porn stashy. A little bit. A little porn stashy. No, but other than that, I'm well. I mean, it's an extremely busy time at work, but I think that's par for the course. How about you? How are you?
Andrew Good. I'm hot. It's hot here again. What the hell? It's September and I'm H-A-W-T, but also my body temperature is quite high. because it's hot here again so that bums me out um and i'm starting to feel the effects of of swapping my sleep cycle from sleeping during the days sometimes and sleeping during the nights other times such that i'm now having to take naps on days i don't work and it's so good i napped for an hour today on the couch and it was the best did you start doing edibles no okay no i think if i was gonna day nap i would want to be high when i did it No, I like, I have a beer, I have lunch and a beer and then an hour long nap. And then I continue about my day and it's delightful. Naps are way, way, way too underutilized.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. That's possibly true. Hey, uh, important question. Do you ever, uh, combine chocolate chip cookies with beer?
Andrew Yeah.
Everett I combine everything with beer. Yeah. That's, I think that's my go-to combo, like a good brown or like a porter and a chocolate chip cookie.
Andrew I'm an IPA all the time kind of guy. Or, like, as cheap fun as it gets. Go all the way, like, Bush Light, Pub Beer is one of my go-tos because it's real cheap. Rolling Rocks, some PBR.
Everett I like PBR. I really like Montauk. Have you, we've had that. Yeah, we've had it together, yeah. So, well, I think without further ado, we should probably... We should just bring him in. You know, we should probably introduce our guest. So, this is a person who's not been on the show before, however... Is part of the team. Is part of the team. So, on the line, We've got Mike Rejczak. I mispronounced his name for a long time, for many episodes.
Andrew Hundreds of episodes even.
Everett But I got it right today. So Mike Rejczak is the senior contributor for The Watch Clicker. And in addition, he writes for The Time Bum and Two Broke Watch Snobs. He's a contributor to both those websites.
Andrew Better than both of us combined. Really gets around. He does. And that's why we like him.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right. He's super easy.
Mike Rejczak Mike, how are you? Good. Flattered. Um, been described as one of the loosest reviewers on the web.
Everett Yeah, no, that's how we describe you when you're not here.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to join you. I don't know where the mic is here, but you got it. Get a good one. Yeah. Got a cream ale. Ooh. From two silos brewing. Where's that out of right here? It's a local brew. Oh, that's tasty. I haven't had this before. It's basically like, uh, like, uh, not root beer, the cream. Cream soda. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It's that, but with alcohol.
Everett And so you're, you're in Virginia, you're in Virginia.
Mike Rejczak So that's an East coast. Virginia. This is an East coast beer, two silos. I've heard, I've not been, uh, I've heard they have a great playground because yes, they've got the kids crucial. They have a kid's area and it is, it is within view. You don't have to be in the kid's area. So you can kind of be at the tables outside and just kind of and eyeball your kid occasionally. And listen for his distinct scream.
Everett That's right. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a couple of places like that here in town.
Andrew We do. Yeah. There's a cidery out that way. I want to say it's in the Richmond area that does like... Hardywood?
Mike Rejczak I don't remember the name of it. No, they do beer.
Andrew It was the first cider I've ever liked. And it was because they all tasted like Joan's Soda, but they were like five and a half percent alcohol. I was like, Ooh, I could, I could drink these. I had a friend send them to me.
Mike Rejczak It's essentially liquid sugar.
Andrew Yes. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Which is what cider is. But then they added like. With booze.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. They made it America.
Everett Yeah. What's the name of that? What's the name of that gas station market that you guys have out in Virginia? I mean, it's, it's kind of on the, in the South, but. Wah-wah. Wah-wah. Yeah. Wah-wah.
Mike Rejczak So that is interestingly, that is north of us and south of us, but not in the DC area. My wife is from, uh, outside Philly. And she we were just talking the other day about that is her like favorite place to get a sub.
Everett Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Rejczak Mine is Subway because it's right in there in the name. And you can eat fresh. Yeah. And also Jared, who is beyond reproach. Oh, yeah.
Everett Yeah. Subway, Jared.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Poster child, America. So, yeah, she was expressing disappointment that It is north and south, but not here.
Everett Yeah. Totally inaccessible. You know, they've got like a sausage breakfast hot dog thing. I mean, we've got 7-Eleven that does a similar thing.
Andrew Tornadoes are just they describe how good they are coming in and also the destruction on the other end.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Andrew Two of them as an F5 is bad.
Everett And I was always impressed with the beer selection. That's what brought this up is that Wawa always had a respectable beer selection. There's always something that's like that's a legit beer, you know, like Goose Island or something. Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Goose Island is good beer. They went mainstream, man.
Everett Yeah. All right. Fuck. Okay. I guess now I know.
Andrew Goose Island has some good beers.
Everett All right. Yeah. It's like dogfish head I think of. It's like an East Coast dogfish head.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. That's how I consider them.
Everett Goose Island is out of the Midwest.
Andrew New England, right? No. Goose Island is out of like Chicago. Is that right? Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Goose Island is Chicago.
Everett Well, that's the East Coast.
Andrew It's Eastern.
Everett I live on the Pacific.
Andrew Interestingly enough, Houston is also the east coast to Everest.
Mike Rejczak Anything east of California, Washington and Oregon is the east coast.
Everett People will be like, oh, you're in Minneapolis. You're out west. It's true. Motherfucker.
Mike Rejczak West of me is out west.
Andrew That's a stop on the Oregon Trail. Just didn't get all the way there.
Mike Rejczak Past St. Louis, it's out west.
Everett Uh, Mike, thanks for joining us. And again, apologies for mispronouncing your name so many times.
Mike Rejczak Uh, it's happened my entire life. I'm quite used to it. My wife did it a couple of times, so it's fine. Yeah.
Everett Like after she changed her driver's license.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On a daily basis.
Andrew Still doesn't say it right. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. That's commitment right there.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett We brought you on the show to talk about, I think a fun, a fun topic. I think it could be fun. I think we could also make an incredibly boring, which I'm not opposed to. And in fact, I might be lobbying for that just a little bit.
Andrew I don't think we make it boring. I think there's too much passion behind this.
Everett Okay. Fine. Fine. It might be boring. I don't think you're going to be bored. Mike came up with it. Let's not sell it too hard. Okay. We can always. Well, no, you're playing good cop. I'm playing bad cop.
Andrew Oh, okay. I see. That's what we're doing.
Everett So Mike, because this is your idea, why don't you tell us what we're talking about today?
Mike Rejczak This is a topic that I have, in kind of thinking about this chat, realized that I have almost no concrete views on and a lot of divergent opinions about, which is basically everything. Yes. Basically the idea that, you know, what are the pros, cons, merits of iterative watch releases? And I stole that phrasing from Will, but, you know, basically here's, here's the watch you love. Now it's in blue. Now it's in white gold. Now it's in steel. Oh my God. The luxury watch and steel be still my heart. So, you know, who's gaining? Is it, are we being hoodwinked as consumers? Um, well, I, I think there's just, there are a lot of reasons it happens there. I think a lot of reasons that it would be nice if it didn't happen, but you know, kind of unpacking that and talking about it and letting, just letting the hate out.
Everett Just let it out, man. Let it flow.
Andrew Can I start our first tangent?
Everett Yeah.
Andrew Is that a is that a continuous light like a photography lamp?
Mike Rejczak Oh, this up here? Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is I don't know.
Andrew Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No softbox makes more sense.
Mike Rejczak This is our this is our love pad down here in the basement because it's got some very thick walls. Yeah.
Andrew Smart. Yeah. That's that's a way better lighting. I just I saw the I saw the corner of it and I was like, that's why you're so well lit. It makes perfect sense. Meanwhile, we just have a window. So in about 40 minutes, we're just going to go dark.
Mike Rejczak I had a Zoom interview a couple of weeks ago. I had two continuous lights just blasting my face the entire time. Looked great, though.
Andrew That's all that matters. So we can re-correct from our first tangent.
Everett Yeah, how about we do some contextual sort of setup on this? Because I think that this conversation is going to get wildly spread out very quickly. I think it's important to sort of, at least on the front end, um, say the reason we're talking about this is because of that fucking bullshit Tudor watch. Okay. Uh, which is, which is not to say that it's not, not to say that it's not an amazing watch because I'm sure it is an amazing watch, but, but rather to say it was such a weird phenomenon. Yeah. When Tudors drops a blue version of a watch that they've had out at that point for years. Yeah. That was wildly popular.
Andrew And they built it up to be like, we're about to break the Internet. Get ready. Prepare yourselves for the Pyramids of Giza 2.0.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett And it worked. Right. And it worked. Right. The Internet lost their fucking minds. Right. Yeah. Watch Instagram. lost its mind. And so whether that's good or bad or indifferent, I think is not necessarily the context. And whether it's okay to get excited about those things, I mean, A, yes, it is certainly okay to get excited about those things. But B, it's sort of none of our business, right? But I think more importantly, the context of this conversation is, What's the value there? And are there good ways to do this? Are there bad ways to do this? Are there things that we agree with and disagree with? And I can already tell we're going to have opinions and conversations, and we're probably not going to have enough time to really dive into this topic.
Andrew And to build on that, are we just accepting their marketing strategy? Are we getting hyped up, hyped up, hyped, hyped, hyped, hyped, and don't care what they release? Are we just hyped because they did it? They made us excited?
Mike Rejczak Are we hype because they told us so?
Andrew Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. And also, I mean, for all the eye rolling and I'm sure we'll talk about Rolex, but like, you know, it doesn't matter because for all the people that are like this fucking shit again, you know, there are five or 10 people who are dying to have that watch. Yeah, sure. Sure.
Andrew I'm going to call it a T-shirt cannon because I go fucking crazy when somebody gets out on the floor with a T-shirt cannon to launch a T-shirt. It costs three dollars and ninety nine cents. Right. I go bananas.
Mike Rejczak Your Bank of America. I'll throw someone down a few flights of stairs to get one of those.
Everett Yeah. Out of my way. Yeah. Reasonable. It's a T-shirt cannon. It's a reasonable move.
Andrew Grandmas are exactly who you want in front of you because you're going to win.
Everett You win that exchange. I think maybe there's there's more to it than that. And obviously, You're not suggesting that's all it is. No, I am. But it is an interesting observation of human nature, right? Which is the excitement that people genuinely feel based on these small iterative—iterations, I guess, is maybe just the better word—of an existing product, you know?
Andrew Is it an iteration?
Everett We see that with Rolex's release just this Yep.
Mike Rejczak Rolex though, it's weird because I was thinking about that, um, as we were kind of discussing the topic and where the bounds are. And so one of us brought up, you know, what, what constitutes a new iteration. And so, you know, you look at the OP that they basically said, sorry, 39, we're going to 41. So the case is new, right. And then they put the double batons at three, six, nine, that's new colors are new. So, I mean, Do you have a new watch? Or do you have a updated watch? Yeah, right. Is it a new model? I mean, you have a different size, you have the dial looks, you know, comparatively, that was a pretty simple dial, but you have a, you know, the dial has changed. You know, so, you know, what's the difference to between, you know, a long zone of putting out the Odysseus, which is ground up new, nothing like it, versus Is that qualitatively different? And I'd say yes, from the OP going from 41 and a new dial with colors. Sure. And I think Rolex is, you know, with the BB blue, we have color changes, right?
Everett Same exact watch, different.
Mike Rejczak Everything is the same, right? Right. Then you have on the other side of the spectrum, you know, let's stay with it, the Odysseus, which is totally, I mean, nothing about that was anything that along other than some of the dial details and obviously the craftsmanship quality.
Everett Yeah, it's a totally new model, a totally new watch for for long.
Mike Rejczak And I mean, a new type of class that I haven't seen that push button class, which was awesome. But then in the middle, you have kind of these updates, right? Like Rolex basically just rolled out with what, 50% of their collection. Yeah, that's right.
Everett That's right. Well, and you see, I mean, you see this with all kinds of companies, right? And I think Rolex has actually done a really good job over the years in maintaining sort of model continuity over iterations, right? A sub is a sub is a sub, even though you can look over the history. I mean, it's like a Volkswagen Beetle, right? It changes. It changes over time. And furthermore, if Rolex wasn't updating it, it would be super disappointing. So I think that they've done a good job keeping things modern and fresh.
Mike Rejczak Yeah, there's a there's a balance that I think brands like that have to strike between. I mean, they have their mainstays. They have their, you know, Rolex can't not make a sub and the sub has to look a certain way. Right. And so how do they maintain that? They can't just be like, you know, can't be like a think about like the original CRV. I have a CRV and then the newest CRV. Those those are the general shape is the same. Everything else is different. You couldn't do that with the sub, no matter how long you waited. Right. So Rolex, I think to your point has struck that balance of, um, iterating with small, small steps and gradual changes, you know, without, and they do those, but without, I mean, you can still hold a 5513 and a whatever number, I don't know what they're at now and say, these are the same watch, you know, essentially.
Everett Yeah. That's right. That's right. So I think that that's maybe something different than the iterative examples that we're kind of here to talk about today, right? What we're talking about is either one-offs or a modest refinement or just a re-release of an existing model. And I think that there's some things that we can sort of point to as sort of turning point examples. And I think obviously a good start is the tutor. Um, and maybe we just talk about that a little bit more, you know, what Tudor did, why it was important, why people loved it. Um, but, but from there, you know, you know, where do we go?
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett Cause I do think, I do think that it's okay for a company to release something exciting and different. And I think the BB 58 is, is a perfect place for Tudor to have done that because that watch came out and I think that there was this, very excited and accepting group of people. I suspect that that was a bit of an experiment for Tudor. Uh, because otherwise they would have released it as a full model as the blue Bay.
Andrew Like what? I mean, I guess what, what are they getting? There's already color iterations.
Everett I mean the black Bay 58, the original black and guilt black Bay 58 when they released that, I suspect that that was an experiment for Tudor. Yes.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. I mean it, nothing about that watch broke the mold. It wasn't a daring experiment, but it would, they were, I mean, they took a shot. Um, but I think it was a pretty calculated, I mean, it's a clean diver with proportions that are very familiar, um, especially inside the Rolex family, um, with color combinations that are generally pleasing and known to work, right. The original one. Um, you know, but, but yeah, I mean, they were who was tutored before that. Like, you know, like, I mean, I know they were coming back and I remember seeing ads and magazines for them, but I, I feel like they kind of blew the lid off things when they dropped that. And they were like, Oh, now tutors this force. Yeah.
Everett You know, I think maybe that's true. I think the Pilagos had been around for a while and it's immensely popular watch, but I think you're right. There was something that happened with the release of that black bay 58 that sort of cemented them as going to, as having the ability to really hit that sweet spot, right? I think that's what that watch did.
Andrew They made themselves relevant in not necessarily a competitive way to Rolex, but in an adjacent way. And I think that's important. That was important for Tudor to be able to stand alone without being the little brother to Rolex. And the Black Bay did that.
Everett And so then when they come out with the Blue Bay.
Andrew Bay Blue or Blue Bay do we want to go with?
Everett Bay Blue. What's the name of that? What's the name of that? Baby blue. Baby blue. Deep blue. Sweet baby blue. I think that when they come out with the blue, it gives them an opportunity. And I think they missed it, right? It's a single color. And I think in terms of marketing, it works really well for them. But as a consumer, I feel a little bit like you're pissing on my back and telling me it's raining.
Andrew Yeah. Why didn't they come out with more than blue? Come out with a color series. The R&D that went into just that blue could have been a whole, hey, here's our color line. Well, there's no R&D. It's just blue. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is come out with a color line. Hey, the Black Bay is now available as the Hulk or available in all the way they did with the way Rolex said with the OP, like, hey, here's this whole new color line. Don't just give me blue and tell me it's this magical like revolution in the watch industry. And that's the problem I take with the with the baby blue is that it's not impressive. It doesn't deserve it didn't deserve half even of the hype that they generated behind it, because it's not new. It's an iteration at best.
Everett Yeah, well, I will say this. I will say this, and then we can move on to maybe some other watches, but I will say that I love that watch. I think it's a great watch.
Andrew It is, but I'm not as excited about it as they wanted me to be, or as anybody was.
Everett Well, I don't think that you have to be excited, right? I think that the community was excited, and so And so what then what then is a version? I mean, I think that the obvious example is a limited edition. How do we how do we do this in a way that's acceptable and that isn't going to frustrate people? You know, limited editions are universally, almost universally hammered on. And we've talked about limited editions. And I came out on the side of I think limited editions are pretty fucking awesome. But I think that it's popular to say limited edition is bad. How do we do this? How do we make a special version of an existing watch? And if so, how do we do it in a way that's inoffensive?
Andrew Make it blue? I mean, I think it comes down to the branding. Why? Why? The why is the is the important part for me like is it a limited edition because you're adding a sub dial because you're you're doing a something relevant to that year dial color? Are you partnering with a company that's doing something big at that point in the year? Why is it a limited edition? Or is it a limited edition because you're using it to see if people are going to like that and then make it not a limited edition in the future?
Mike Rejczak I limited edition. I agree. First off, I like, I hate how Seiko does limited editions, right? We're talking about limited in the largest quotes you can imagine. And now for a company like Seiko that makes millions of watches a year, maybe it's limited for them. But general numbers, you're talking about things that are limited to what 7,000, 5,000, 6,000. That's not a limited edition. I mean, in the technical definition it is, but then You know, and it's interesting because we're talking about these new dials and changing dial colors and being iterative. And I think people complain about that, but I don't hear a lot of complaints about Seiko, right? Seiko seems to just get away with it. They, I mean, how many grand Seiko with the exact same case have different dials? I mean, it's just dial after dial after dial. They're all limited editions. It seems once a week.
Everett You know, but is it is it problematic? Maybe that's the better question. Is it problematic? You know, Omega gets a lot of shit, right? Because because of their limited editions, because every speed is a limited edition.
Andrew But yeah, and there are 4000 of them.
Everett This Brian May, this Brian May Seiko 5 is fantastic, right? I mean, I probably wouldn't wear it. It's not my style. I want my watch to be something different than that.
Mike Rejczak However, but I love it.
Everett I think that's a fucking cool watch. And I think if you're a huge Brian May fan, what a neat watch to have, right? Yeah. I feel the same way, like an Olympic series watch, right? I'm going to get my 2020 Olympics watch. 2021. 2021 Olympics watch. Yeah. You know, I don't think that that's problematic, right? They make an X amount because they know they can sell them. People buy those, then they have them and nobody else has them. And I think that's consumer behavior that's driving the disgust, which
Mike Rejczak And, you know, at the end of the day, there's always the argument and it's a bit of a cop out, but it's not wrong that, you know, if the market will bear it, then it is what it is. You can't, you know, the market, you know, Rolex isn't going to stop what they do with their supply control shit. And, but because, you know, it's only good for Rolex. So why would they stop? They're not going to stop that until people stop buying Rolexes. You know, Seiko isn't going to stop doing all these new dials constantly until people stop buying it. So if the market bears these behaviors, then there's nothing that's going to stop them.
Everett Yeah. Well, and I don't know. I mean, I think that we're in a bandwagon. society, right? Where it's if you have an emotional reaction and someone else has the emotional reaction, it's easy. It's easy to jump on board. You know, we live in a society where the bubbles we've got, you know, someone can say, hey, this baby shampoo has a certain amount of this chemical, which is known to leach formaldehyde. And so basically you're bathing your child in carcinogens. Never mind the fact that it's like one millionth of the dose of a carcinogen dose over the course of, you know, 50 years, you know, if you give your baby a couple of shampoos with this thing, they've basically got a zero percent, right. Times infinity chance to get cancer. It then some sort of a watchdog organization says, you know, Johnson and Johnson has carcinogenic baby shampoos and everybody loses their shit. Right. It's unhealthy. It's unhealthy. you know, then you're stressed out because you've been bathing your baby in cigarette butts and it's terrible. Are you not supposed to do that? Even though it's totally irrational.
Mike Rejczak Cigars are preferred.
Everett Cigars are preferred. That makes sense. That's right. I like pipe tobacco. I always really liked the way the baby smelled after a pipe tobacco bath.
Mike Rejczak A good rub down with used pipe tobacco is really, I mean, and it'll stay on them for weeks, which is great.
Everett That's right. It's oxidizing. You know, the same thing happens, right? It's like, oh, well, this $5,000 Hodinkee clock that they made 90 of that, uh, uh, 59, 99, 59, 5,900.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. What did, what'd I say? 5,000. That was a whole thousand off.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Um, as it was recently described in a chat, I'm involved in the dead animal box. Yes. Because it's just the animal carcass with the movement in it.
Everett But you know, it's like, who Who fucking cares? They've got to sell 90 of these things so they can fund their sinking ship operation, you know? But who bought those?
Mike Rejczak Who fucking cares? Who bought those? I don't know, but I'll tell you what. Every other Hodinkee release, every other, you see it on Instagram all over the place, nobody's posted those.
Everett Well, because there aren't very many of them, right? The people who buy those aren't on Instagram, right? Probably not. Nobody's losing their shit when Alexander Chaikin releases the new dumb fucking Joker watch, right? because nobody's buying them. Nobody. It's like, I love those watches. It's like literally 1% of the population that buys that shit. Don't freak out. It's somebody else's shit. Leave them alone.
Andrew But they're not generating hype around it. Hodinkee did. Hodinkee generated an absurd amount of hype around that clock. It made no sense. Yeah.
Mike Rejczak I think the issue here's, here's where I don't know if people are talking about this. Here's The big issue if Houdinki had done that with a as a collaboration as they have every other watch that they've done.
Everett Yeah, that's right.
Mike Rejczak It would have been fine. If that had JLC who is historically made those kind of watches on there. It would have been fine. But Houdinki jumped in and said, it's time for us to make our own branded watch. Well, and you know, they and they talked about it with the historicity of it being a JLC watch, and it wasn't clock.
Everett And you know, it was a collaboration. They used a historic clockmaker in Switzerland to put it together.
Mike Rejczak Well, in that case, every Raven watch is a collaboration with the vendors that make it. I mean,
Everett That's the I mean, but you know, you know, I maybe I'm saying something different. I think it could have been an opportunity for them to blow up this watchmaker or this clockmaker. Look, we worked with this historic clockmaker in Switzerland. You know, there was opportunities and it's missed marketing and whatever. But at the end of the day, there's only ever going to be 100 of these things. Get off of it. Who cares? Oh, well, you can't even fly and people don't have work. Well, the world doesn't fucking stop. I want one. You want one of the travel clocks?
Mike Rejczak It lasts for eight days, man.
Andrew Yeah, power reserve for guys. I want one. So I wouldn't buy one. But if you want to give me yours because you hate it, I'll take it.
Everett I guess that's an interesting maybe maybe that's a segue just into the idea that some of this stuff is only an issue because we make it an issue. Right.
Mike Rejczak Right. I mean, we're all We're all so entrenched and by all I mean watch fam, right? Um, who kind of devour watch stuff all the time. I mean, I, I speak to my watch friends as it were more than I speak to my best friends. That doesn't necessarily make them closer. I love you guys if you're listening. Um, but they're not, they're not just our moms. They're not listening. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Hey mom. Um, But, you know, we're all, we're just, you know, every new release we're sharing and, and immediately. And as somebody who reviews watches, I'm constantly critiquing. I got yelled at cause I was at the, uh, the Timebomb does district time, which is the, his, uh, like wind up, but much, much smaller. Right. Um, and we went out to dinner with a couple of people with maybe five or six people. Um, and one of the guys was wearing the Alpina, shit wrist or something. I don't know. It was shiny poop colored in a like rose gold plated case.
Andrew Gross.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. And the date window was at two o'clock. What? Correct response. And I commented openly to the table about that and somebody was on me right away. It was like, why are you Why say something? Like why do you feel the need? Why is that the first thing you mentioned about the watch when you try? And he made a good point. And it speaks to that idea that we're just kind of always kind of sniping at things, you know, and as a critic, I do that constantly.
Andrew But if I'm going to wear something that doesn't make any sense, I want to wear something that doesn't make any sense because that was a decision, not because they're like, oh, this could be cool. No, I want to wear a fucking backwards, like a counterclockwise turning watch if I'm going to wear something that doesn't make sense.
Mike Rejczak The Ludovic Ballard, which has the numbers on the wrong way.
Andrew Yeah, if you're going to do something dumb, go all in. Don't just do it because you're like, oh, this could be cool.
Everett Hit it hard.
Mike Rejczak But I think you have a point where it's, you know, is there a problem or are we creating problems? Oh, we're creating problems. Is the production a problem or are we creating problems? And frankly, the more I thought about this, you know, the more I was like, This is, I guess this isn't that big of an issue. And as I looked at different brands and like these brands aren't producing anything, they just produce, you know, so a long and done, for example, did that their anniversary, their 25th anniversary or whatever. They did a new, a new watch every month, but it was the same goddamn watch with where I think they changed the, what the primary city was on the date wheel or something.
Andrew Yeah.
Mike Rejczak 12 of them. And that was a new watch. It's like, that's not a fucking new watch.
Andrew Well, you got to drop 12 in a year. That kind of fits.
Mike Rejczak Well, what you're doing is, you know, really quick turnaround on your city wheel.
Everett Yeah. Well, and I think at some point it's okay to be critical of these non-changes that are changes, but at some point we have to decide, that it's going to be okay, right? It's all, it's all going to be okay.
Mike Rejczak You know, because also watches don't matter.
Everett Watches don't matter, but more than that, right? Because I think that that's a, I think that that's a little bit cheap, uh, Mike, but more, more than that, I think because it's because there's so many consumers and there's so much opportunity to play, you know, some people really want to play it safe. They say, you know, I, I won't ever buy a watch with acrylic. We've got a good friend of the show, our friend Pete. He's chilling with watches on YouTube, and I recommend you check him out. It's a really good YouTube channel. He does very low-key reviews of watches, and his content's great. But he's a good friend of mine, and he refuses. I'm simply not going to wear a watch with an acrylic crystal. And the thing is, it's okay. His reasons are totally good and rational. Meanwhile, I'm a guy I'm like, if you would just give me every watch with an acrylic crystal, no, I'd be pumped, right?
Mike Rejczak Hard pass. I'm with, I'm with, I'm with, uh, Pete, was it? Yeah.
Everett Pete chilling, chilling with watches, chilling wit watches on you. Yeah. Yeah. With great wit. That's right. Although I will, I know he doesn't have the heart to say wit on his YouTube channel.
Mike Rejczak That's what, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, my, my wrists are too out of control to handle the guaranteed damage. And I know you can just buff them out, but I'm lazy.
Everett No, me, same, same. Right. Uh, I'm, I'm a, I'm a flailer. You are.
Mike Rejczak Wacky waving inflatable arm tube man. Yeah. Flailing tube man.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So, but I guess the point is, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay to have different things. It's okay to have different things that some people are going to like and other people are not.
Mike Rejczak So, so then- And I think Will pointed to the fact that, you know, in his review of the Black Bay, and I think in his- Blue Bay. He kind of, and the purple, the Purple Cove. Yeah. Yeah. Purple Cove. That's their anodigy model.
Everett Yeah. It's wrong. I would buy that, by the way. I would buy a purple Anadigi BB58.
Mike Rejczak I'm on it. He anticipated kind of the backlash. I mean, and it had already started at that point. He started it.
Everett Accurate.
Andrew That's accurate. Tudor released a new watch. It is blue. That is all. Purchase.
Mike Rejczak And he said, you know, I think it is important to understand the fact that, you know, And I've never confirmed this. I don't know anybody inside enough to confirm this, but that I think a lot of these brands use these iterations to kind of keep the doors open. Yes. And to, so that they can make, you know, new models and, you know, pour money into research when you're talking about bigger brands. Um, Lauren, who's the, the time bum, uh, told me, uh, he was up at, uh, what's the New York show where you can go hands on with like super expensive watches. Um, it runs almost simultaneously, I think with wind up. Is it watches and wonders? No, no, no. That's where it's, um, of a Yeah, he was up there and he was talking to one of the brand owners. Apparently, I'd love to go because you buy a ticket and it's a little expensive, but all the brand owners are just there chatting with people and you can just, you know, handle, you know, whereas at like Basel, if you don't have a press pass, you don't get to touch anything.
Andrew Are they easy to counterfeit, do you know? What's that? The press pass? At Basel? Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Yeah, but you still have to pay airfare.
Everett Yeah, that's true.
Mike Rejczak And also the show doesn't exist anymore, so whatever.
Everett We've heard rumors that it's going to be resurrected, that it's going to come back.
Mike Rejczak In a different form, I'm sure.
Everett We've heard pretty credible rumors that that's happening now-ish.
Mike Rejczak I think, yeah. Next year, right?
Everett Yes, that's right. As early as next year, yes.
Mike Rejczak That said, I also heard rumors that with this round of Rolex releases, they are, um, from, from a friend who spoke to an AD that, you know, who inquired what's the waitlist going to be like, but AD said, shouldn't be a problem this time around. They have upped production.
Everett Oh, is that true?
Mike Rejczak Interesting. Even on steel models. Yeah. Wow. Which is, yeah, a big wow. Gray market guys are going to be hurting. They're going to shit.
Andrew Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Um, anyway, he was there and he said, uh, one of these big watch guys said, listen, that innovation happens below a thousand and above $10,000, right? Because the guys below a thousand have to, whether it's design color choice. I mean, look at the new Rolex, that yellow dial who did that first.
Everett I just have been like seven versions of that. Right.
Mike Rejczak No, but Helios, I'm the first one I saw and I may be wrong. I'm sure somebody may chime in, uh, send an email, but Helios, Mike, if you're going to send an email, send it to Mike.
Everett Cause I barely even check them.
Mike Rejczak It's Mike at don't care.com. Um,
Everett Yeah, Helios, but I think Raven's got a version of that.
Mike Rejczak Raven's got a version, my Collins sonar that I have. I mean, it's a good color. And I think, you know, Jason at Helios, I'm going to say he was the first, he took a chance and it worked right. He took a chance and with the pastel blue too. Now Tiffany blue has obviously been a color that people know, but, um, never heard of it. Tiffany is a lamp maker.
Everett Yeah, I remember those songs. Tiffany, right?
Mike Rejczak Breakfast at Tiffany's? Yeah, so Tiffany, the lamp maker, changed his name after hearing that song. And he also makes letter pendants for your wife.
Everett Tiffany is one of those companies that's like, someday I'm gonna be at a garage sale and I'm gonna find a stained glass lamp and take it home and then go to Antiques Roadshow and pass out, just retire, pass out and then retire. Yeah. Yeah. So I hate to do this. I think we probably need to transition. We could make this show into like a 10 part series because I'm sure we all have more and more thoughts about this. Uh, with that said, I don't know this one exactly the way we expected it to. So in the context, exactly how I expected this, this was it. This was,
Mike Rejczak I told you, I told you beforehand that I have a number of divergent opinions about this and no concrete thoughts and that's where we landed. But I don't think that's a bad thing. I mean, I think it's a big discussion with a lot of facets and I think recognizing the core issues, which is we as a watch fan make make these things issues that, you know, these companies, brands typically use this to continue business. And that's okay. And we as consumers kind of need to accept that if we want all the other good stuff that we really like.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right. You know, and in 1997, Tudor releases a blue BB 58. No one 5000 people on the face of the earth. No, maybe Right. Maybe. That's right. That's right.
Andrew And so... Because they happen to buy one of the 5,000 that are available.
Everett Yeah. In the context of our ability to worship a brand, it becomes problematic because we have expectations that are unreasonable or unfair or perhaps just it is what it is. In any event, there's no problem with Tudor releasing a blue version of his watch. There is no problem with... I've heard it's totally okay.
Andrew I've heard it's pretty good. Okay.
Everett Good. Capital G, capital O. Well, the blue because of the specs.
Andrew The blue is pretty good.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. So with all that said, you're right. We just have to be willing to allow business to take place while we also fanboy and fangirl about such business.
Andrew No, do the things that we want and nothing else matters.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. That's what I want. That's where I am. Yeah.
Everett And by we, we mean. Me, specifically. Yeah, me. That's right. Yeah.
Andrew I mean, Seiko does it. That's right. Seiko releases everything for me. That's true.
Mike Rejczak It is weird. It is weird that they put Andrew on the back of the case.
Andrew All engraved. Andrew.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I provided them that, I provided them that profile for the issuing.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Andrew Yeah. It was beautiful. You know, it's, it's lovely. Thank you. Yeah. I used a soft one. It was chiseled. It's a little less so now, but it was my heyday. Oh, you're so humble.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. It's simply carved now. Yeah. Yeah.
Everett Andrew, other things.
Andrew Oh, geez. We're already there?
Everett What you got, boo?
Andrew My other thing. So it's weekend for me. So I was... It's a freaking weekend. And I had me some fun. I hit the Netflix. And I found a new show. And I did work. I watched Cobra Kai. We just started this. On Netflix. So a little bit of background. Cobra Kai, two seasons are available on Netflix. It originally started as a YouTube show. Like YouTube Red or Platinum.
Everett Yeah, this was YouTube's attempt at an original. To sell subscriptions.
Andrew It didn't work. Netflix grabbed it and they made it a top 10 show. Like that, it has Williams.
Mike Rejczak Stay in their lane.
Andrew It has Ralph Macchio and it has John Kreese. I don't remember his real name. The actor. It's got these people 30 some years later, and they did such a good job taking the 80s feel of Karate Kid and making it into a TV show. I'm like, I was three episodes in. I was like, how are they going to make a whole season out of this? And then they did. And then I finished season one. And I was like, what are they going to do with season two? Still that same 80s movie feel, that same acting, but like revamped, modernized and brought into the modern era. I watched two seasons of them. They're about 28 or 32 minutes per episode. There's 20 episodes available a day and a half and I'm done. And they have confirmed a season three. It was awesome. I loved it. And what I liked most about it You don't have to remember Karate Kid. The series itself is independent of Karate Kid, but if you know Karate Kid, it's that much better.
Everett Well, and they give you so much historical footage.
Andrew They do. They fill in the gaps. And I don't know how they got the rights to all that Karate Kid footage, but they did.
Everett Yeah, they got it.
Andrew And it fills in the gaps that you must know. And the rest of it's just like, Oh, I remember that. Oh, I remember that.
Mike Rejczak Oh, let me ask you this question.
Everett Yeah. If sorry, Mike, no questions. Sorry. No questions.
Mike Rejczak Let me make a statement and you can respond to it. Oh, okay. I like that better. Your, your love of this new show is directly correlated and depended upon your nostalgia and affinity for the original films.
Andrew It helped. You could, this could stand alone. Like I could, you could watch it with your, like Ev, you could watch it with your kids having never seen Karate Kid and they would like the show. It's fun. It's that weird like 80s karate fetish because for some reason in the 80s martial arts was the thing. There's a ton of that.
Mike Rejczak And early 90s because if I can remind you about the movie Surf Ninjas.
Andrew Yeah, no, you're right. That's, My bad, sir. Goddamn. So but there's all that. There's the weird like high schoolers who are played by 30 year olds because that's what high schoolers look like, like all these things from the 80s. You're like, oh, this this is it. So you can you can have no knowledge of the karate kid. Love Cobra Kai. Then go back and watch Karate Kid and you'll I think you'll like Cobra Kai that much more.
Everett I really wish there was more Elizabeth Chu. Yeah. Yeah. There's.
Andrew Yeah. Sorry.
Everett No, it's fantastic. We've watched, admittedly, we've only watched three episodes, but it's been fantastic.
Andrew It's so good. It's weird. Good. It like it, it pulls one of those like eighties movie classic strings that you have like from your childhood.
Everett Mike, you said directly, directly associated to your nostalgia. I think indirectly, cause I think here's the deal. I think it stands alone. Yeah. But I don't think you'd watch it. So you don't think I'd watch it? No, I don't think anybody would watch it. I think if not for the connection, it would be a hard sell.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett But with the connection, the sell becomes easy, especially with the commitment, right? The commitment's low. It feels, and then it winds up being entertaining and good. That's my guess.
Mike Rejczak Are these hour long or 30 minutes? 30 minutes. Oh, game over.
Andrew Oh, it was, it was toast. I was done with it. And my wife like while she's working, cause I, I don't work during the day. She'd come in and be like, are you still watching it? Like, yep. And she'd watch an episode. And last night I finished the last one. She's like, wait, did you just watch 20 episodes?
Everett No. That's a good one.
Andrew I hammered it. I think that's probably the fastest I've finished two seasons of television. Good for you. Yeah, I did work. That's where that chin went. Yeah. I'd bring I'd bring multiple beers to the table and then just lay down so that I had I could save trips to the fridge.
Everett You know what I like to do occasionally? I've only done this once, actually, but I did it, but I did do it once is I bought a six pack of beer and I poured it into a pitcher and filled the pitcher all the way up and then drank the beer out of a pitcher.
Andrew I like that. I, I will usually bring like a little lunch, like a lunch pail, like a cooler and I'll put a bunch of beer in there.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. No, if I weren't doing this, podcast right now. I've had two beers. If I were like sitting watching something, I would be out of sleep.
Everett It's just late for you.
Mike Rejczak No, no, no, no, no, no. At any time of day. Two beers, I'm done. I'm good. That's, that's the equivalent of most people's six pack.
Everett Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, you're handling yourself very well.
Mike Rejczak Thank you. Beautiful, beautiful princess.
Andrew And there it goes. Mike, what's up? What are your other things?
Mike Rejczak So I want to start with a buddy of mine at Wound Wheels, my buddy Alex. This is this is more a cautionary tale. This is another thing not to do. Oh, OK. Yeah. Curveball audience listeners. Moms are three moms.
Andrew I've done another thing. It was something I hated before.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to read the item description here. Amazon brand, hyphen. Now the next two words are all caps, buttoned down. Now we're back to normal capitalization. Men's slim fit super 110 Italian wool suit jacket. Why would he do this?
Andrew Don't do it. Don't do it. $9.99, right? $41. Don't do it.
Mike Rejczak My buddy, I'm chatting with him. He gets it. He's so excited for this. He gets it. And he says, so this he bought it thinking it was a $41 suit. What? The suit is a jacket. The jacket does not fit. And it feels cheaper than $41.
Everett I'm sure it's super 110. I'm sure it's super 110.
Andrew I'm going to get one for Halloween costume. I think so.
Mike Rejczak I like how buttoned down is in all caps. It's a jacket? Yeah, that's not a type of blazer.
Andrew How many buttons does it have?
Everett There's no such thing as a buttoned down blazer.
Andrew Is it five button?
Everett Shit, I don't know.
Mike Rejczak Or is it like a double breasted? No, it's not a Sunday church suit. It's a double, two buttons. I mean, listen, on the model, it looks great. Of course.
Andrew Well, yeah, they built him for that.
Mike Rejczak They probably have those clamps in the back like they have on mannequins.
Everett Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. So it didn't fit. Shocking.
Everett Is it lined? I mean, what's the... I mean, obviously... Yeah, I'm sure it's fully canvas. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Obviously, fused lining, but at that price, is it lined at all?
Andrew Is it sized in inches or is it sized in sizes?
Mike Rejczak So listen, The third feature on this, about this item is button closure. Yeah, that's important.
Everett We've got buttons and holes to put the buttons in. Uh, so we don't talk a lot about clothes on this show. And I know, I know Mike, you're, you're a clothes head.
Mike Rejczak A bit. Not, not, I don't nerd out. Uh, there was a short period where I had a bit of a style blog Oh, a sartorial blog.
Andrew Nobody read it.
Everett You've got to come to it. Can I still find it? Is it on blogspot.com? It sure is.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. Yeah. What is it? The best thing since yesterday dot blogspot.com. I think a lot of the pictures are gone, but you can still read my wry wit.
Everett Fantastic. I'm all over it. But I don't think, I don't think Andrew is, is really a close head. I mean, Andrew's you're, you're well dressed, but you're not really.
Andrew I don't get weird about it. I stay modern. I stay up to date. I don't get weird.
Everett Mike, if you're about to say you don't get weird with it, you had a fashion blog, so please do not say you don't get weird with it. I don't any longer get weird with it. Okay, that's fair.
Mike Rejczak I learned a lot, forgot most of it, and took some of it with me.
Everett I used to have a burger blog. EugeneBurgerBlog.Blogspot.com. I think it's still up. Yeah, it is still up. You can still find it.
Mike Rejczak Have you guys know a place called Alley or the Alley or? Alley Express? No. Alibaba? No, it's a place in Eugene, my buddy that I told you guys about who is- Agate Alley? Yeah, Agate Alley.
Andrew Yes. I had one of the best sandwiches of my life there. Yeah. Everett and I went there two times in one day for a pork belly confit. Pork belly slider. Pork belly confit slider, yeah. Fantastic.
Mike Rejczak I don't blame you.
Everett Twice in a day.
Mike Rejczak I went when I visited my friend, That and Pops Ice Cream.
Everett That's what it's called? Prince Puclars.
Andrew Prince Puclars.
Everett Right across the street from Agadeli, yes.
Mike Rejczak That's why, yeah.
Everett That's why I went south.
Mike Rejczak Yeah. So let me give you a good thing. My wife and I just, and speaking of 30 minutes, my wife and I just finished The Americans. Oh, so good, dude. Amazing. Yes. Also, Keri Russell, come on. Come on. Yeah, still got it.
Andrew Yes. How's it better now?
Everett Yeah, she's going to continue to get hotter until she's about 60. She's going to be like George Clooney. Yeah, that's right. She could be about 60.
Mike Rejczak She and Matthew Brees are together and have a child. I heard they're boning. I've heard, active. I've heard that. Actively. I heard she makes him use his American accent.
Everett He's totally, he's totally out of his league.
Andrew You know what? That's the benefit of being in Hollywood. When you're super rich, you can date out of your league.
Everett I was in movies and the show.
Mike Rejczak But here's the thing, she's also super rich.
Everett Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Mike Rejczak Probably richer than him. Perhaps.
Everett No, I think she's a better, I mean, she's a better actor than him. Yeah. And she's for sure hotter than him. Way. Yeah. Yeah. I need to get in movies. I mean, my wife is pretty awesome, so I guess I'm okay.
Andrew I'm not good enough at anything to be in a movie. They wouldn't even cast me as an extra. Accurate. You dug it.
Mike Rejczak You dug the Americans. Loved the Americans. So good. Went through it as fast as one can go through a one hour drama, which is Not that fast. It's like seven seasons long. Six seasons, um, all of which have, thank God it was on FX. So I think most of the seasons were 10, 11, not like this CSI 22 season bullshit.
Everett Yeah. Um, I really liked the feel of that, you know, super, super 80s feeling. It was basically exactly like Cobra Kai.
Mike Rejczak you next time. I think they cast his hologram. It was him, Tupac, and Biggie. Rest in peace, Pat Morita. So after that, we just started watching Schitt's Creek.
Everett Wait, how many other things? Because we're going to have to talk about... No, this is...
Mike Rejczak He said he had three other things. Okay. Keep it coming. Schitt's Creek is so fucking good. So good. So we, so, but I also, what makes it even more sweet for us is we went from watching a one hour drama to a 30 minute comedy. Yeah. And we're burning through four or five, sometimes six a night. So the sun is down by 830 and I'm like, do you want to watch Schitt's Creek? Let's go, go, go, go, go. Because we have to go down both stories because our TV is in our basement. And so we're like, I'm like, cue it up. I'm going to get a cookie.
Andrew So I my wife started watching Schitt's Creek without me. And I had I went I joined her on the couch and I'm watching it. And I had mistaken it for the unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. And I kept wondering, I was like, I didn't know Gene Levy was in this. Also, where's that girl from The Office? I watched like four episodes where I was like, I think I'm not watching what I think I'm watching.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Andrew But I loved it and I have continued watching because I love Eugene Levy.
Mike Rejczak And is, uh, Eugene Levy is a Canadian American treasure. I'm going to claim him.
Andrew He's an American treasure. We've, we've got it. He's ours now.
Mike Rejczak And his, his son is his son in the show. And Twyla, the cafe woman, that's his daughter.
Everett Yeah, that's right. And son is David Levy, right?
Mike Rejczak Dan Levy. And they co-created the show.
Everett And Dan Levy was on an episode of Hot Ones and he was fantastic. Just saying. Dan Levy, Hot Ones episode, probably my favorite.
Andrew Uh, somebody I work with told me he, I reminded him of Sean Evans and I've never been so flattered.
Everett Yeah.
Andrew You, I'll talk about that until the day I die.
Everett It's a similar look. It's a similar look.
Mike Rejczak So I have to Google Sean Evans.
Everett So other things don't buy the $41 button down super one tens jacket. Don't do it or do it's not super one tens and it's fucking blows. Uh, Schitt's Creek and also the Americans, all fantastic things.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett Are we actually holding for something good here?
Mike Rejczak I'll hold. No, I didn't know if it actually said super 110. I thought maybe they just said it does, but I thought maybe they just said 110 Italian wool.
Everett Yeah, yeah. It is not super 110. It can't be. Because just the amount of fabric.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett Is more money than the price of the whole jacket.
Andrew Just the amount of fabric for that jacket should be more than $41. That's right. That's right. I mean,
Mike Rejczak Super 110s, Italian wool, genuine horn buttons.
Everett Yeah, but Super 110 is like the horn of a yard, right?
Mike Rejczak So on at the foot of the Alps in Biella, Italy, from Marino sheep, long, thin fibers create fabric offering ease of movement and all day comfort and flexibility. Good God, it sounds great.
Andrew I'm going to buy ten. Yeah. For the cost of one sport coat, I'm going to buy ten.
Mike Rejczak I'm going to buy one in every size. Buttoned down.
Andrew Because that's the thing.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett So I've got another thing. Oh yes. This is going to be my second week talking about golf adjacent.
Andrew Okay.
Everett God damn it. As a serial hobbyist, right? As a serial hobbyist.
Andrew That's our thing.
Everett You, you go through phases, right? So I've got like a phase of, this is the thing I'm thinking about. This is the thing I'm thinking about. So I tend to like, right. You're just like, Oh, everyone's spent three weeks talking about golf shit. You know, uh, Been golfing, been watching golf YouTube. I bought a set of irons. I bought a golf bag. I'm getting a little crazy.
Andrew What kind of irons you buy?
Everett I bought Mizuno irons because I like all things Japanese. They make baseball stuff, but go on. They do make baseball stuff, but they also make like the best irons in the game.
Andrew Oh, I mean, there's a lot of debate there.
Everett It's like Miura, Hanma, Mizuno. Okay. I'm just, I'm just saying. Uh, also bought a golf bag from Jones.
Andrew I did buy a Jones bag.
Everett But I have been watching, there's a golf channel called Random Golf Club.
Andrew So you just grab a club out of his bag and bang on a ball?
Everett Yes. No, it's different than that. Okay. It sounds good. It is hosted by a fellow named Eric Anders Lange. And he's just one of these personalities, right? He's not a particularly good golfer. I mean, he's a very good golfer, right? He's probably like a two, three or four handicap, right? Which puts him in very good company. There's a lot of people that are two, three. Alice Cooper's for handicap, I think, right? Yeah. Still today at 60 or whatever he is, right? Yeah. He's a for him. Very good at golf. So he's like a for handicapper, but he's got a fantastic personality and he just has a fantastic channel. So random golf club. I have been a little immersed in Eric Anders, Lang random golf club, YouTube videos for the last like two weeks I'm having. So the way it came up, I watched his. So last week, my other thing was, Jones sports, Jones golf bag, the resurrected bones of the former sort of NCAA supplier Jones bags. Well, he made a video on Jones and I found this and then I found that he also interviewed Cameron Weiss, who I think is maybe like who also probably wouldn't come on our show if we invited him.
Andrew Right.
Everett I thought that we could get I bet we could talk Cameron into coming in. But, you know, Cameron's got his own, Cameron's got his own podcast. And so, uh, Eric Anders Lange interviewed Cameron Weiss. And I thought, who is this guy? And I start watching his videos and I'm just immediately immersed. Fantastic video quality. He's a filmmaker by trade. Uh, so I will say this. I have cold called by way of Instagram DM Eric Anders Lange to come on for you in 20.
Andrew And if there's any PIs out there and you can get us his home address, we'll fly to his house and knock his door.
Everett If you know Eric, Tell him to check his messages. 40 and 20 messaged him. Everett from 40 and 20 messaged him. I did cold call him to come on the show because I think he's just great.
Andrew Great. And golfers like watches because golfers are hobbyists.
Everett And he's a watch head. So this guy. So here's here's my deal. I messaged him immediately after watching. He's got a YouTube video that said met Tiger Woods. Never been so nervous in my life. So I watched this video and he it's a little bit of clickbait, right? Because he doesn't really meet Tiger Woods. he gets like 30 seconds to take a picture with Tiger Woods.
Andrew That's still, that's meeting. He touched his hand.
Everett Right, right. So yeah, that's a big deal. And he's super nervous and he goes and kisses him on the mouth for a picture and then he starts to walk away and then he turns around. So he had previously interviewed for his podcast, Ben Climber, Tim. Oh, thank you. Unfortunate. Go on. Uh, so he had previously interviewed Ben Climber and they had talked about Tigers Seedwell. at the show on the show. I don't know why I haven't listened to that episode.
Andrew But he the one thing he gets 30 seconds with Tiger Woods and he didn't kiss him on the mouth. He did.
Everett OK, but then he said, hey, you're a sea dweller. Is it just a run of the mill sea dweller or is it something special? Because there's all these rumors. Everything Tiger wears is one offer. So he meets Tiger Woods. That's what I'm talking about. He asks him one question and it's about his watch. And I was like, I fucking love this guy. Yeah.
Mike Rejczak Yeah.
Everett I love this guy. Eric Anders Lange, the YouTube channel is Random Golf Club. Check it out. I think it's fantastic and I love it.
Mike Rejczak Can I drop one more thing because it's a little bit bounce off that?
Everett Drop all the things, Mike, because we're never having you on the show again.
Mike Rejczak Yeah, I don't blame you. I just ripped through. I'm a very slow reader. There's probably some sort of learning deficit. I could tell by the eyes.
Andrew The copy that we've been holding up for you has not met the mark.
Mike Rejczak No. Well, I just gave up about three minutes in. I just ripped through Mike Birbiglia's new memoir. Really? Yeah. Phenomenal. It's called The New One. It is about, I think it's subtitled something, stories from a reluctant father.
Everett I like it. That's me.
Mike Rejczak That's everyone. Mike Birbiglia, if you don't know, is a comedian who gained fame with his initial standup sleepwalk with me. He has a very severe sleepwalking issue and numerous other issues that make him not a great candidate for a father, just on paper. And on top of that, he didn't want to. But it's hilarious. And when He was invited to the White House, and he and his wife met Barack Obama, and they took that time. They hadn't shared with anybody, and Barack was like, hey, how you doing? And Mike Birbiglia just blurted out, and Barack Obama was the first person they shared that they were pregnant with. That's a good story.
Andrew Right? I would do the same. You know the first person we told you were going to get born? The President of the United States.
Mike Rejczak President of the United States. Pretty good one too. Yeah. And, and he gave them very practical advice about like diapers or like respecting each other or something too. That was just, just very presidential and just like, here you go. Don't fuck it up.
Everett Don't fuck it up.
Andrew That would have been the best advice. If BO had said, well, good luck. Don't fuck it up. That just would have been America's fuck.
Everett Well, anyway, great book. So, You really you've really done a number on the other things, which I'm fine with because Andrew does the show notes. So thank you. Thank you.
Andrew I think the content was good. I'm busy.
Everett The content was good. And Andrew's going to have his work cut out for him. That's going to be fine.
Andrew Mike, text me what you talked about. That was a lot of things.
Everett In spite of my med shit talking, man, it's been so fun to have you. Thanks for coming on the show, man.
Mike Rejczak Great to be on.
Everett I can't wait to have you on again. We're going to have to we're going to have to maybe four way soon. Oh, do a little four-way. Do a little four-way. And also a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Thanks for coming on. You got anything you want to drop before we start to move along here?
Mike Rejczak Not at all. I got nothing. I'm exhausted.
Everett He's exhausted. He's had two beers and he's ready to pass out. Andrew, you got anything you want to add before we go? I'm good, man. You're good. Well, hey, guys. Thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20 The Watch Clicker podcast. Check us out on Instagram at 40 and 20 at WatchClicker. WatchClicker.com is where we drop all the reviews. You can find all of Mike's fantastic reviews on there, as well as some, you know, okay shit from Will. Occasionally, even Andrew and I drop some shit on there. They're not very good. It's pretty bad.
Mike Rejczak If you want to- Oh, don't forget that if they want to read the Black Bay, the Blue Bay Blackie, which I've heard is totally okay. And you heard it's pretty good. It's pretty blue.
Everett Yeah, I've heard it's good.
Mike Rejczak I've heard it's really great. I just want to make sure everyone knows.
Andrew Purple Cove review coming soon, too.
Everett He got his hands on one. We don't really know. Yeah. Or why.
Andrew Don't forget to check us out next week for another episode of 40 and 20 and another hour of watches, food, drinks, life and other things we like. Bye bye.