The Grey NATO – 305 – Drafting Our Favorite Watches In Movies

Published on Thu, 24 Oct 2024 06:00:00 -0400

Synopsis

In this episode of The Graynado podcast, hosts James Stacy and Jason Heaton conduct a "draft" of their favorite watches featured in movies. They take turns selecting notable watch appearances from films, discussing the significance of each pick and how it relates to the characters or plot. Some highlights include the Doxa Sub 300 from Three Days of the Condor, the Omega Planet Ocean from Casino Royale, and the Seiko 6105 and Rolex GMT-Master from Apocalypse Now. The hosts also touch on watches that didn't make their draft lists but are still significant, like the Rolex Submariner from Goldfinger. They wrap up by recommending a documentary about Korean sea women divers and a YouTube channel exploring the history of various brands and products.

Transcript

Speaker
James Stacy Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Graynado. It's a loose discussion of travel, adventure, diving, driving gear, and most certainly watches. This is episode 305, and it's proudly brought to you by the always growing TGN supporter crew. We thank you all so much for your continued support. And if you're listening and would like to support the show, please visit thegraynado.com for more details. My name is James Stacy, and I'm joined as ever by my friend and co-host, Jason Heaton. Jason, how are we doing?
Jason Heaton I'm doing really well. Yeah. Summer just rolls on here. We've had, we've had the string of warm days. I, you know, it's funny. Yeah. Yesterday I, uh, I finally got word that the defender was, was done with some repairs. It had been in the shop for six weeks.
James Stacy That's a longstanding repair.
Jason Heaton Yeah. It was a, it was a big thing. I, I took it in for, um, some welding work on the chassis. There's this part of the chassis that comes out on the side in front of the driver, the right hand door kind of supports the, the body of the car. And it was, pretty corroded. And so I had the shop, they actually had to jack up the body and cut out this corroded piece and weld in a new piece. And I thought that was it. But then the brake lights stopped working. So I left it there and they actually had to get a whole new wiring harness for the whole rear of the car and thread that through the chassis and rewire everything at the back. So it's finally back. And anyway, the connection with the weather was that yesterday when I got word, I thought, well, I'll run over and get it. So it was like mid afternoon and man, it's been like dry and windy and in the eighties Fahrenheit here, which is, you know, in the summer that doesn't feel that bad, but I don't know why it must've acclimated a bit to some fall weather. And I went, I ran over there and I just about died of dehydration. I was just like staggering in begging for a bottle of water and yeah, it was pretty crazy. But, uh, yeah, it's good to, good to have the, the, the old Land Rover back. And, um, I was surprised when I got into drive at home, there was a, a note in a Ziploc bag that And it was from a listener, a TGN listener named Matt, who left a nice note for me and said, he recognized the logo on the side of the defender, the TGN logo that I've got there. And just said how much he enjoyed the show and was living in the twin cities and just left a really nice note. So Matt, if you're listening, which hopefully you are, appreciate that. Sorry if it took a long time for me to get back to you, but like I said, it's been six weeks since I had it, but yeah, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, that was a, That was a fun, a fun day yesterday.
James Stacy So yeah. Well, that's a long, long time for repair for sure. You know, it happens with sort of specialty vehicles or wiring harnesses.
Jason Heaton Yeah. It takes some time. The shop that I have that I go to now, um, is it's kind of a quirky little shop. It's a, it's a kind of a one man shop. And then he's got a helper who actually used to work at the place where I bought the defender several years ago. And so, you know, for, for a vehicle like this, that, you know, I order in any parts that they need, drop them off. They fit it in among, they do, they only open like four days a week and they kind of do one off weird projects. And I'm really thankful to have them because you know, with an old kind of British vehicle that parts are scarce and um, you know, kind of weird stuff like, like chopping out a bit of the frame and welding in a new piece and putting a wiring harness in, it's, it's not something every shop on the corner will do. So yeah, that's been, that's been great.
James Stacy Oh, great. Well, I'm glad to hear that. Certainly. I there's also a little bit of a fun feeling when you know your vehicle needs to do needs to have a repair. Something needs to be done to it. And you go through and I'm sure you do this to some extent. Like you think like, well, I could do this if I had more time or for this. Like you make up some reasons. And then finally, and I've gotten there with the Jeep a couple of times, you take it to somebody. And then when, when they go over it and they do, you know, like a professional's job with a lift and the rest of it, and they go like, Oh, we also found these two or three things and you should do those. And you go like, Oh man. All right. You know, I don't have to feel too bad. Cause I don't have a lift. I couldn't have done that. You know, I always make up some excuses to like, Oh, this is mostly a self maintained vehicle.
Jason Heaton Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, when it comes to welding and wiring, those are two things I'm bad at. I don't have the patience for, or the equipment. or the expertise. And so, you know, I'm, I'm more of a blunt instrument. If it takes like a socket wrench and a screwdriver or a big hammer or something, you know, fine, I'll do that. But not when it comes to, I don't know, wiring is just too fiddly for me and I just don't have the patience for it.
James Stacy Sadly, I've not yet. And I haven't gotten into welding. It looks like a good time if I, you know, in a different life, I think I could probably be a pretty good welder when it comes to, when it comes to the wiring. You know, I got, I got a certain, I have a certain proclivity with like home wiring in being able to understand that. And for some reason, especially once you get into like a more modern vehicles that have some of the computers and, and other things like that. I just, I go, I know, I know one of the positions on this wheel on my multimeter can help with what I'm trying to do, but I have no clue which one I'm supposed to be using. Exactly. I can tell you if my battery's okay or not.
Unknown Yeah.
James Stacy Right. Yeah. I get a little lost, but. I'm glad it's back. And I mean, I guess you've got a little bit of this, especially if it's going to stay this warm, you've got some season left to drive it around.
Jason Heaton Well, this is, this is the year round vehicle. Hence the, I guess the corroded chassis part. Um, the, the, the series three, which I don't have the roof on has, has been, Oh, of course. Yeah. Really doing the yeomans work lately. It's a, it's almost become a daily driver and we've had great weather here, you know, no rain for weeks, which isn't, isn't great for the garden and lawns and that sort of thing, but it's been good for driving a top down vehicle. And you know, when you have a Land Rover, it's always good to have a backup and Yeah. Right. Right. How about you? You're feeling better now? You were having a rough week last week.
James Stacy I am. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for asking. Thank you for everyone who asked on the Slack and, and an email and that sort of thing. Probably won't do many health updates on the show in the future. Got, got a lot of recommendations in the Slack as far as like remedies and that sort of thing. I, you know, I feel like I'm pretty well tuned as far as knowing what my body would like. So I just need, it turns out I just need a ton of rest. I was really, I think I was just very tired. Yeah. Um, so it took me about a week, but I've, I've caught up and the sleep scores are going back to normal on the aura ring. So that's all good. But yeah, it was, it was a, not a, not a super comfortable week last week, but I'm glad that we got everything done and you know, no major cost, especially in this scenario currently can't take any sick days or that sort of thing. So have to lay in bed and keep working. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, feeling sharp again, which is good.
Jason Heaton Good. Well, we have a, we have a fun episode. It's sort of a mix of a draft and film club. I'm pretty excited about this one.
James Stacy Yeah. Let's, let's get into that in just a moment. First up, let's do a quick risk check. What have you gone on for today's, uh, you know, cinema themed episode?
Jason Heaton Yeah. Well, it's not a very cinema themed watch, but it's, uh, it's a fun one. I I've been wearing the Pelagos FXD for quite a while now for probably the over the past week straight. But just last night I decided to pull out the, And I've got it on a, I guess like a sand or khaki colored NATO, which hits just right on this one. So, uh, that's a good one. I was kind of inspired by, um, I don't know if it's still up at the moment, but, um, somebody was selling a Holton automatic for a really good price on the buy, sell trade channel on Slack. So, um, I was kind of inspired by that. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. I would say to those that are on the fence about Elliot Brown and the Holton particularly, um, don't sleep on it. Cause it's a, it's a good deal. And it's a cool watch.
James Stacy That's awesome. Yeah. Good, good pick. And, uh, a good, good option for sure. For me this week, I'm wearing a watch that I wish was in more movies. That was kind of the thought, uh, and that's my Aqualand. So, um, you know, this might be the broken record watch of TGN maybe since the 777 came out, you know, way back in the day, which we talked a ton about, you know, they're very similar price points. Um, but I, I think, you know, this is the 2007 17 W. So the, the loom dial with the gun metal case, we've talked a ton about it. You know, if you're brand new to the show, it's one of my most favorite watches in existence. I just published the story for the new, uh, momentum UDT eclipse sync solar. And in that, I kind of have some considerations. And I think this is among the only semi-direct competition for the Momentum because the Momentum's 380 and you can get the Aqualand for 440. And I think that kind of ties them together to a certain extent. Two entirely different kind of takes on a similar format, both very sporty. You know, the Momentum is smaller, but I would say that in many ways, the Aqualand wears smaller. It's such a strange watch. Someday I'll crack the physics, you know, formula that explains why this watch wears so well on my wrist or in general. Yeah, exactly. Uh, but I've got that on the Wokey strap, the matching green strap that I've been wearing it on since wind up Chicago. And I just love it. I love this watch.
Jason Heaton Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the, the connection with the momentum, um, with the UDT, it's kind of neat to see the two modern iterations of these watches when back in the mid 80s, when they both debuted in their original format. Um, yep. You know, they were, they were at the cutting edge of, of what was kind of the Anna digi revolution at that point. So to see them still survive, gosh, what are we talking here? You know, 40, 40 years later, it's a, it's pretty, pretty wild, pretty neat that they're still around.
James Stacy And let's not forget, we do still have a TGN discount code. I did forget. So I'm remembering now as a citizen for risk check, Uh, but if you're interested in getting an extra 10% off anything from the pro master dive collection on citizens, us website that runs until the end of the year, the 31st of December, and that's an additional 10% off. So you can stack that, uh, with other deals or sales that are on the website currently. So that's maybe one to keep a, keep an eye on in the next little while, because that would get you $40 off of the Aqua land, which is a nice little bit of saving certainly covers your Wokiee strap, which is only $9. Uh, we're always looking to, you know, save you with enough money for a watch, a strap and a pizza. That's a pretty good Friday. So that's kind of the move, but yeah, so that's, um, that's what I've got on and, uh, and a nice reminder for the discount code from citizen. So thank you from them for that. But Hey, why don't we jump into some watches in movies, but a draft.
Jason Heaton So explain the format. How are we going to do this? You're saying a serpentine draft is kind of the way we're going to do this, right?
James Stacy Yep. So like we've done drafts in the past, it's going to be five pick serpentine. So if you pick first in the first round, you pick second in the second round or the other way around. If you pick last in the first round, you pick first in the second round and we go that way. Uh, these are going to be our favorite or most notable appearances of watches in movies. There's not really any rules beyond that. They just have to movies. So maybe we'll do TV watch appearances, uh, some other time. Yeah. Um, but we wanted to dig into this at some point, you know, obviously we've done several outings of the film club and some of the watches I'm sure that we'll talk about today also link up with film club movies, which is kind of fun. Uh, but it's, it's a fairly straightforward thing. There's not really any rules. We're not looking for the coolest watches ever to show up in a movie or only Rolex or only Omega or anything like that. It's just the ones that like, if you had to pick five, what are the five that means something to either of us? So, I think we can kick it off. And, uh, Jason, if you like, you're welcome to go first, or if you'd like the double stack, you can go second, your pick.
Jason Heaton Um, you know, I'll take the first because your movie knowledge is beyond mine. And so I thought I would grab my most prized pick first, if, if you're willing to offer that. And I'm so I'll, I'll take it.
James Stacy I think we're going for the same watch is going to be my guess. So as long as it makes the list, I'm happy.
Jason Heaton All right. Well, um, this is the, the docks, a sub 300 shark Hunter that, Robert Redford wears in three days at the Condor kind of had to be on this list. And you know, there are certain other movie heroes that are more tied with watches than this one, but I had to snag it because, um, it's such a like deep cut pick that I think, you know, when I first saw this movie, who knows when way back, you know, before I was into watches or anything like that, I wouldn't have even noticed or paid any attention to it. It doesn't have that upfront, like, you know, full, you know, full view of the watch or a risk check by the, by the hero wearing it or anything like that. It's just, you, if you know it's in there, you, you kind of look for it and you smile when you see it. So, um, this is, you know, Redford plays this sort of lower level CIA analysts working in this little field office somewhere. And, uh, you know, something happens in the office and he's kind of ends up having to go on the run. It's, it's a great movie regardless of watches in it, but the appearance of a docks, a shark hunter, on a bund strap is, uh, is just, it almost doesn't get any better than that, um, in terms of movie watches. So that's my, that's my first pick.
James Stacy I think this is, this is an absolute, this is a first round pick. No question. It went in the first round. It should go in the first round. I think this is one of the most, I think one of the most stylistically, one of the most important films of my life. Uh, I think that the way that he dresses throughout this film, Redford specifically also just Redford in general, There's only like for my Mount Rushmore of like guys that I would like to dress like or emulate in some way. Like it's Redford, it's, um, Harrison Ford. Yeah. Like there's these guys that kind of just were quietly stylish for their entire career and had these big moments that weren't so quiet, like three days of the condor. Yeah. And the docks on the bond with that whole outfit with him in this incredible movie. It's great. That's an awesome pick has to happen. Yep. Yep. Really, really good on the board. I am. Boy, this is tough. Where do we, which, which, which way do we want to go here? Um, I'm, I'm going to go with an obvious, a very obvious, but it has to be a first round for me. And this is, uh, this is Pacino in heat wearing a Bvlgari Diagonal CH35S.
Jason Heaton I knew this. I knew it would show up in your picks.
James Stacy It had to be there. Right. I've got some, I've got some weirder ones, stuff that we don't always like, we don't talk about as frequently as stuff like, we got to get the big ones out of the way though. Right. Yeah. You know, this is this is my favorite movie for sure. It's also the movie I've kind of spent the most time in my life thinking about. Yeah, certainly in terms of a movie made in the 90s, this would be the the movie for me. And I think there's so much about this movie that's great because of how specific Michael Mann is about everything that he does. And everything has to be done a certain way. And then having Pacino's Chicago raised, you know, hard nose detective style will take the bad guys down now in LA kind of fancy up all night going on BJ's on Alvarado at 2 AM. This is his watch. Uh, it just, it makes so much sense to me. I really like it. I love, there's a couple of great visuals of the watch in the film and it suits his character really well. Uh, you know, it's the unsigned. So they make a version that didn't have Bulgari on the dial and had a quartz. And I believe that's what he has in the movie, which is, uh, you know, It's the stealthiest one. It's on a black strap. Uh, I really like these. I'll definitely have one at some point. So yeah, that's my first pick the Bulgari from heat.
Jason Heaton That's great. And I think, you know, I mean, I knew you'd pick that at some point and it wasn't going to be on my list certainly. So that was kind of a, like a, you know, you had, you had a full runway for that one, but I think, you know, for someone to, to own that watch as sort of an homage to that movie, or just because you like the watch is, Again, that's one of those deep cuts where it's not as obvious as like, Oh, I saw Pierce Brosnan and, you know, GoldenEye wearing an Omega Seamaster. I'm going to get the Bulgari from heat. I think that's, that's great. I can't wait for you to get one.
James Stacy Yeah. I think it'll be a fun one. Eventually, you know, there's no rush. I had one on the eBay wait list for, I opened the tab. The tab was 45 days old is what Chrome told me. So it just was sitting there and the watch had sold, of course, but maybe someday, you know, I've got, 20 watches to sell and then maybe I'd be okay with buying another one which I don't need, right? Yeah. Yeah. I get the second pick as well in the watches in movies draft that we're working on here. Yeah. So let me think here. What would be really fun for another one? I'm going to go with alien, not aliens. Aliens gets more shine for a watch made by a Seiko that you may take. So I won't, I won't claim that. Um, or, or mention it in full, but in alien, which is a movie I drastically prefer to aliens. The first, the original alien, uh, by Ridley Scott, uh, Ripley is wearing a Casio F 100 and it's a really awesome. And it's a watch you can get into for very little money. And if you really love alien or Ridley Scott movies or Sigourney Weaver, these are all things you should love by the way. Uh, Ripley, I think is one of the greatest characters. of that era of film, uh, you know, was at least on paper, people claimed it was the first time that like a woman could lead an entirely run an action film or, or something in the action genre. I would, I would claim that alien, the first one is more of a horror film than anything else, but I digress. And in this movie, she wears a very cool F 100, which was re-released only a couple of years ago. So these are gettable for not much more than a hundred bucks, maybe even less.
Jason Heaton Yeah. That's a good pick. I was hoping a Casio of this type would make it into this night. I was racking my brain trying to think of an appropriate movie to pull from, but I think this is probably the best, best choice. And I agree. It's, it's such a fantastic movie and immediately makes me want to go and watch it again. So good call.
James Stacy Yeah. And the, the F-100 is kind of cool because I think it also links up with the aesthetic of the ship they're on quite well. Yeah. You know, it's this little screen, it's got some buttons, the buttons don't have texts on them. So you clearly have to know what's going on. a lot of the instrument panels and computers in the machines in, in, in their ship feel very, you know, almost like looking at the, you know, flight console. Yeah. Like, well, I don't know what all these buttons do. You'd have to have a training training to use any one of them. And I think that there's a cool way in which the Casio kind of links up with that. Yeah. Well, also at the same time, if you, if you consider the stresses put on the, on the crew of this ship, it would make sense to have a fairly straightforward watch. with a, with a, an easy display and not something that might, you know, unwind if it was a mechanical or, or, uh, that, that sort of thing because they spend time, you know, not necessarily moving all that much depending on what their mission is at the time.
Unknown Yeah.
Jason Heaton Good one. All right. Well, I'm going, I'm going big time again with, uh, with this next one and I didn't think you'd pick it, but I've got, it's gotta be high on my list because arguably this was the watch that sent me on the journey that I'm still on and that is kind of getting into watches in a big way and that is the Omega Planet Ocean reference 2900.50.91 from Casino Royale 2006 film. This is the 45.5 millimeter version of this watch. The kind of the first release that Omega did with the Seamaster Planet Ocean line remains my absolute favorite of any Planet Ocean and it was the watch that inspired by seeing it in this film. I ran out and bought it at a Jared Jewelers at a mall on credit because I just loved it so much. I was so blown away. You know, I've talked a lot about that Seiko that I got in high school. And I think, you know, as an adult, many years later, when Casino Royale came out and I saw this on screen on Daniel Craig's wrist, I was like, really? They make like a cool Uh, dive watch on a, on a chunky rubber strap that like is sort of high end and interesting. And from this brand Omega that I kind of know about, you know, this is 2006. I, this was before I was really into watches and I don't know, it just fits his character so well. It was, it was the dawn of a new bond. Uh, Craig's first role in it. My favorite, I think my favorite bond movie of all of them personally. And it just hits right. It matches the outfits he wears with it, whether he's in, Um, Madagascar or the Bahamas. Um, it's just, it just goes well with kind of the polo shirt, khaki kind of bruiser style that, that he's got in this movie.
James Stacy And, uh, yeah, that's, that's my pick. Yeah. I mean, it's an incredible pick and I remember, you know, I was, I kind of got more deeply into watches about two years later, but I do remember seeing that watch and then going on and seeing you know, I think within a year later, we started to see more versions of the 42 millimeter. So we had the version with the gray bezel and I just remember that it being a real moment for Omega where they felt like they were leading. And I feel like we haven't had that moment in a while. You know, it's from Omega, we're getting a lot of like Aqua Terra's, which are just, I mean, on purpose, very bland. I like an Omega that's going a little bit harder, whether it is Planet Ocean or Ploprof or, uh, you know, the, there's other James Bond watches from Omega, obviously that, that came out in terms of being connected to the movies after Casino Royale that I think were quite successful as well. But there is something, it could be a rose colored glasses thing for both of us. I'm not really sure, but there is something special about that kind of first era of the Planet Ocean and then its connection to Uh, easily one of the best Bond films ever made, uh, in my top three, I would give it, I got a real thing for Skyfall.
Jason Heaton Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Visually Skyfall was, was gorgeous, but like, I don't know, Casino Royale was just so tight from start to finish. Great villain, great plot, you know, following the book pretty close to a perfect action film. Yeah. Pretty, pretty perfect. Yeah.
James Stacy And, uh, I mean, it's still one of the greatest opening sequences of anything.
Jason Heaton Oh yeah. It didn't feel like a watch that was, um, necessarily made to be a bond watch, which I liked. I liked that. It almost felt like we're introducing this new, more active, rugged bond, which watch would suit him. Well, there already had a connection with Omega certainly, but like to pull a watch that had a rubber strap with the, and the planet ocean with that sort of harkening back to the mid sixties with some of the dial styling and the liar shape and that sort of thing. But yet this kind of big burly watch was just a, Just hit right. It's still, it's, it's still a watch that, you know, if I have regrets about selling anything, it would have been selling that first planet ocean. Cause I'd love another one, but not going to happen.
James Stacy Maybe we're both going back and buying planet. Maybe so. Maybe so. Just, you know, don't tempt me with a good time. I'll buy it on air. Yeah. It's happened before. All right. So, uh, it is your pick for the third round. First pick of the third round.
Jason Heaton All right. Um, I'm actually sticking with, Omega on this one, strangely enough, and with another one of my favorite movies. Um, this is a Christopher Nolan film from 2017 Dunkirk. And, um, I'm, you know, I'm going to go with the, with the Omega CK 2129. This is a vintage, um, pilots watch that Tom Hardy's character wears when he's flying the Spitfire. And, It's, it's a pretty rare watch and one that was used by pilots that had a kind of a locking, rotating timing bezel that, um, in the film he uses to time his, his remaining fuel. And, you know, there's a couple of shots where he's in the cockpit flying the Spitfire over, uh, over the channel. And he references his watch a few times he's using like chalk or something to mark his fuel supply on the, on the dash of his, uh, of his plane. And I just think, you know, Nolan is another one of these directors who He's very considerate when it comes to his choices of everything in the movie. And, um, you know, I remember when this movie came out and kind of the watch enthusiast crowd got, got fired up over this. You know, there were a lot of stories about how, you know, the watch was sourced and used for this. And certainly you can go back and find some of those stories about that. But I just think it's such a neat, totally period, correct choice for, for Hardy's character. And I love Hardy's character. I love this movie. Um, and, and I love this watch. So. Yeah. Vintage piece Dunkirk, 2017, the CK 2129 reference from Omega.
James Stacy Nice. Great pick. There's definitely on, uh, on the list of, uh, on my grand list. And we can get to some of the ones we're not going to get to, um, because looking at how the list is kind of shaping up currently, I think we might leave some big ones on the board, but those are ones everybody knows about. Yeah. I tried to find at least a couple that were a little bit deeper. Obviously heat's well known alien is perhaps better known for the watch and aliens.
Unknown Mm.
James Stacy Um, but for, for this, I think that Omega is super cool. Also, if you go back, you know, it's a Christopher Nolan, so it makes, you have to see them a couple of times for it to, to really sort out. But the, the, the way that Dunkirk is timed in, I think three hours, three days, three weeks, something like that is pretty fascinating. And the watch does play into that. And I think for a character that has almost no dialogue or maybe even no intelligible dialogue, Yeah. Uh, from Tom Hardy as the pilot, these little touch points, add a personality that you don't get without his voice. And I think the, his relationship to the aircraft, the watch, you know, all of that is kind of important to, uh, to the kind of, um, texture of the story, I guess, if I'm going to be very pedantic.
Unknown Yeah.
James Stacy Yeah. But it's, uh, I mean, it's an incredible movie if you haven't seen it. Yeah, it is really, really amazing.
Jason Heaton Yeah. And I don't know that I believe did, There was another version of this watch that Longines made that looked similar, and there might have been others from other makes. But I don't know, has this watch been remade? It feels like Longines might have remade it. Not to my knowledge, but it's possible. It should be. I mean, someone's going to do it soon. I bet it'll be Longines.
James Stacy Because I think Longines had the Lindbergh, which was a similar aesthetic. Right. Uh, quite a bit bigger, I think, but now that I say that I don't specifically remember how big a CK 2129 is. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think like Tiso had an hour angle, but I think that might've been a Lindbergh thing as well. So there's a few watches that have a similar aesthetic. It is very forties. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, late thirties, forties, but, uh, yeah, a great one for sure. And a solid pick. And I do appreciate where with like a Casino Royale, the watch is a character. Yeah. In the film, because you expect it. Whereas Dunkirk is kind of a different option where the watches is a piece of a plot device, which is a real thing for Nolan. And who knows, we've got five picks left. We may get more Nolan in here. The guy's definitely got a thing for watches and for using watches in his films as plot devices. So, I mean, we could either get to that or maybe we'll summarize it afterwards, but... Let me get into my third pick here. I'm going to go with, all right, I'm going to go with one that was very, very important to me back in the day. This movie meant a ton to me. I was obsessed with it. It came out in 2002. Uh, so I was 16. I could not have been more impressionable in terms of a, of a, a really interesting, fun movie directed by Doug Liman. This is the Bourne Identity came out June 6th, 2002 and in it, Jason Bourne played by Matt Damon is wearing a, a is wearing a Tag Heuer link chronograph. And while I don't necessarily believe that the link has come back around in terms of styling, I think it will give it a few more years. I think we'll see a return just cause that's how fashion works. But that decision to put him in a sport watch that could have been bought at a mall makes so much sense for a guy that doesn't really have a house. Yeah. Uh, just doesn't really have a family. It doesn't really have things he owns. Right. And then to have him have this watch, I mean, throughout this, you don't even feel like Damon's wearing his clothes for most of the film. It feels like he's wearing whatever he could take off somebody or what he was given on the boat at the start of the film or something like that. So to have this one anchor point of like, this guy probably does need to know what time it is. Occasionally he probably has to time something and you could see somebody with his background the thing that they actually do carry around aside from maybe a weapon is a watch. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's just a really nice bit of grounding for the character. And it's fun to see this watch, which was so of the era, I believe it's a 2001 CT one, one, one, one is the model, or at least that's what the internet has agreed to watch ID.com, et cetera. I love this. When I was, when I was younger and this movie came out, I thought it was fascinating at the time. Hoyer Tag Heuer was having quite a moment. in terms of accessible sport watches and for Lyman and whoever made the decision for Damon's character to, to go tag instead of Rolex or Omega or a G shock. Right. Which would also make sense for somebody with a special forces background. Um, I just thought it was an interesting choice that always just kind of stuck out in my brain as being a little bit weird, but also kind of dialed for a character you kind of know very little about.
Jason Heaton Yeah, I agree. I think, I think this was an, It's not my favorite watch by any stretch, but I think it, and it's, it was a weird fit. And yet, like you said, very appropriate for, for whatever reason. I think that kind of the obvious choices that you mentioned, you know, whether it was Rolex or Omega or something just would have seemed a little too, um, too obvious or too on the nose for somewhat of his background. So yeah. Forced. Yeah. That's a good, good word for it.
James Stacy Or it like, like if he was running around in a Rolex, you'd go like, where'd you get that Rolex?
Unknown Yeah. Yeah.
James Stacy Or in Omega, you'd go like, is this a Bond thing? Like, is this a reference? Whereas there's something so pedestrian, like in a really good way, in a gray man sort of way, there's something so common and understandable and still, you know, highly made, like well-made and highly produced and all this sort of, from the tag. I think it's just a much more story-driven decision. You know, it wouldn't surprise me, I haven't read the Ludlum books, Um, but it wouldn't surprise me if, if, you know, this was mentioned in the book or something, it has that sort of feeling.
Jason Heaton Yeah. That's a good, good term too. I like, I think it is a good gray man watch because they are, especially in that era, they were very popular, very common. So a lot of people were wearing them, so wouldn't have stood out.
James Stacy Good, good pick. So yeah, that's my third pick. Moving on to the fourth round and my fourth pick, let's see what's still left on the list. All right. I'm going to go with a fun one. I haven't picked a Rolex yet, so I'm going to go with that. Obviously, there's a ton of Rolex in movies, but I believe this movie has been on a film club in the past. So this is 1982's spy plane thriller with Clint Eastwood. It's a film called Firefox. Oh, yeah. And in Firefox, Eastwood wears what I believe to be his own Rolex GMT Master. It is a 16753, so it's a two-tone root beer. And there's a couple moments in the film where they specifically show the watch. He's checking his time. And basically the premise of this film is incredible if you haven't seen it. If it was on a film club, it would have been like film club two or three, like early on. So I don't mind talking about it again. But the premise of the film is Mitchell Grant, played by Clint Eastwood, is a veteran American pilot who becomes involved in a top secret mission to steal a high tech Russian fighter jet known as Firefox. The conceit is that this plane is so high tech, the stealth plane, stealth fighter plane is so high tech that it has to be driven by thought. But you have to think in Russian. Oh, so it's kind of a silly film. Yeah. I really enjoy this movie. This was one of these ones like as a kid we rented from the library with with with some frequency for myself and my brothers. It's a little cheesy. It's a little goofy. It has some Bond like set pieces, you know, landing your stealth plane on an ice flow to meet up with a submarine. There's all sorts of great stuff. Well, Firefox, 1982, Eastwood wearing a very cool, perfect for Eastwood. I'm not a two-tone guy, but I still really appreciate the watch and how much this kind of connected with his character. And we also saw a very similar watch on John Milius, if you get into that, a two-tone GMT master. And I think there's all this sort of connective tissue to a certain era of sort of Haldiwood tough guys that had this watch.
Jason Heaton Yeah, that's a good pick. And I'd like that you, you know, our first Rolex of the draft, which is coming in round four here, um, uh, is not the usual suspect. I mean, certainly let's face it, the, the, the top pick in most people's heads would be a certain, certain Submariner. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
James Stacy And we can get to that if it doesn't get picked that one, I could never take from you. So you've got two picks left if you want that one.
Jason Heaton No, I'm leaving that one on the table. Actually. I've got, I've got a really deep cut here. This is one, This is one that, uh, it's a weird, very compelling film with, um, Roger Moore and Anthony Perkins from 1980. And it's called North sea hijack. Um, it had an alternate title, I believe in the UK called folks with two Fs. So it was like capital F small F O L K E S. Um, very strange film. Uh, where Roger Moore plays this very eccentric guy who lives, I believe, uh, and I could be wrong here. I believe folks, I believe that's like a Welsh Welsh name. That's his name. And he lives in this strange castle. Um, but he's, he's got an expertise in, you know, like clandestine work, kind of a mercenary. And he's called in to help with, uh, a hijacking of, I believe it's like an oil platform in the North sea. And Anthony Perkins plays the bad guy. And now to get to the watch choice, uh, Moore, this is still in his bond days, but he's got a beard in this and he wears like a watch cap and whatever. Um, he wears a Seiko golden tuna reference seven, five, four, nine. This is the kind of the original big, uh, you know, Seiko tuna. And it's, it's just awesome because, and it works really well because he spends a good deal of time in this in, on boats and in a wetsuit. Uh, he's climbing up the kind of the scaffolding of the oil rig and he's wearing this watch. It has a couple of good kind of wrist shots. If you, you know, pause the film at some point, you can see him, you know, struggling with somebody and you can see this big chunky two-tone gold titanium watch on his wrist. Um, pretty wild. And it's, it's a fun movie. It's, it's, it's got its goofy bits as a lot of films from this era did. Um, and it is weird to see Roger Moore in a very different role, even though he was kind of at the height of his bond years. Um, branching out into a role like this. So, yeah, that's my pick. If you haven't seen this movie, recommend it. I wouldn't say it's an award winner, but it's a kind of a fun Saturday afternoon, wintertime, lounge on the couch and pull on a weird movie. And you can check out this Seiko Tuno and his wrist. So that's my deep cut.
James Stacy Good pick. Good pick for sure. That one's very cool. I don't know this movie at all. I know the watch quite well. And looking at some of these clips, you'd almost think It's a bond. Like if I see more, I just think it's bond. Yeah, totally. It's kind of crazy to think of him in another role. Yeah. Um, but yeah, this looks awesome. And what a cool specific, kind of the same thing I was saying about the, the GMT master and Firefox. It's just like, it's a, it feels like somebody went, this is the right watch.
Unknown Yeah.
James Stacy Yeah. This fits for a number of reasons. I don't need to explain because anyone who will get it, we'll get it. And any, anyone else who doesn't care about watches, it'll just, they won't notice. It's fine.
Jason Heaton Yeah. And I think if I'm not mistaken, there was a Bond film with Moore where he's battling like a hard hat diver or like in a one atmosphere suit inside of a submarine might be the spy who loved me. And he's wearing, I believe he's wearing the same watch in the Bond film. Now that that's another deep cut that somebody is going to correct me on or at some point, which, which watch specifically, but it was around that era. And I'm just wondering like, what was the connection? These are, these are all sort of little tidbits that are probably lost to history. But you know, for a prop master to choose a golden tuna for, for this role, I mean, what was the thought process? Was it, you know, he's this quirky eccentric guy who does a lot in and out of, in and around water. This Seiko would have been kind of a big deal back then, but still a very niche pick. I mean, not for everybody. So, um, always fun to see how these watches end up in, in movies and the choices that were made.
James Stacy Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Good pick. Uh, definitely a movie to add to the list as I think I've seen everything else we've talked about so far. Yeah. All right. So you've got a first pick of the fifth round, fifth and final round of the watches and movies draft. Let's have it.
Jason Heaton All right. So I have, I had two options to go with here. One is a much more obvious choice and it's a Rolex, but if you'll indulge me, I'm going to go with, how do I put this? This is actually, I hate to disappoint people. This is actually not a watch it's watch adjacent and it's on a bone strap and it's, it's, it's, it's such a favorite movie appearance. Uh, risk choice for me that I just had to include. Okay. And it's from 1972 from deliverance. Um, incredible, incredible movie. Burt Reynolds character in this film wears a Sunto compass, diving compass on a leather boon strap with, with a double strap. And it is, it's such a cool choice. And I remember pausing it. I remember looking at this, uh, at the screenshots and, And actually this watch, I was hunting around for photos of it and came across it. It had been auctioned off. Someone actually look at this. It actually appeared in one of these movie, you know, collectibles auctions and by heritage. I don't know what it's sold for. I don't see the closing price on it, but crazy. I mean, this is from 1972 that Lewis Medlock was his name. Perfect fit for Reynolds's character because he's, he's the kind of macho alpha male in this film. uh, kind of leading this group of, of guys of kind of weekend warrior types that are going to do this canoe trip down this, uh, this river that's about to be dammed up in, in Appalachia. And you know, he's, he's the guy who knows how to hunt with a bow and arrow. And he, he wears like this leather, um, vest throughout the movie. You know, he's all pumped up and muscular and whatever. And he's got this big chunky thing on his wrist. And I remember always pausing, zooming in, trying to figure it out. And lo and behold, it's the square, Sunto compass on a leather bone strap with double straps. Um, and as luck would have it, I own that very compass, not the one from the film, but the same model as luck would have it. Um, it belonged to a friend's father who served in the Sri Lankan Navy and, uh, and she inherited it from her father after he passed away. I thought I would enjoy it. So I have this thing. I haven't quite figured out how to put a bond on it yet, but, uh, you know, I'd be tempted to kind of rock that around. Cause it's a, it's quite a look.
James Stacy You might have to get that custom made. Yeah. I think, you know, there's some very famous sort of single frames from deliverance. And one of them is Reynolds drawing a bow back and he looks terrifying.
Unknown Yeah.
James Stacy If you think of the pose of somebody drawing a bow back with their elbow up quite high, the watch is right, or the compass is right in line with his eyes. So it's in focus and you, that's definitely one where you go like, wow, that's, such a specific choice to not even go with a watch, but to go with a compass, which means this guy is always lost. Right. And it just says something about the character and to have it on a bond. And when you combine that with the rest of his vibe in the film, which is menacing.
Unknown Yeah.
James Stacy Yeah. I think it's a fantastic choice for sure.
Jason Heaton Oh, I love it. Yeah. It's great. This is like, he's the original EDC guy.
James Stacy Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But like every, every sort of generation of movies has a couple of guys that can play these like kind of terrifying, but charismatic, but at the same time, totally unhinged and unpredictable. Like it's a John Barenthal thing. Yeah. Now, um, you know, previously, previously we might've, you know, you might've attached that to, um, who else might've, might've fit that role. Like, um, a Ray Liotta. Right. Oh, sure. Yeah. If you go back, just these guys who could, who could, you couldn't take your eyes off them, but there was this weird intensity to whatever they did when they, when they hit certain types of roles that just worked a lot better than them trying to play maybe a more casual character. And I think the choice of it, not even being a watch, but a fairly hardcore, you know, military derived compass says something about his background. And this is why, this is why like little details in films make all the difference because this brings another whole layer to a character. And all it is, is a compass on some, on a crazy leather strap. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, cool. We're down to the final pick. I really love the Suunto diving compass on a bund in delivery. I didn't see that one coming. I think a lot of people can see this next one coming. I don't think that we can do a TGN watches and movies draft and not mention this. It's actually going to end up being two watches because I don't think you can pick just one. And we're going Apocalypse now. It's a Willard and a GMT Master. I think it's two of the most important watches ever put on a movie. One of the most important movies of all time, definitely for its era. It may be less influential now, but there was an entire wake after this film of people who were kind of pulling at the threads of what the film was about and the way that it... The brutality that it kind of captured. And I think to have these characters, again, not unlike with the Bourne, to have these characters who don't have that much, like Kurtz is in the wood eating melons and, and, you know, getting fat off the land and the people, but still has this Rolex. And it's this weird connective tissue to like the past life and success that he had. And I think that if it was a different watch, it would mean less like this is where a Rolex makes perfect sense. This is a man who was obviously, um, you know, climbing the ranks in the military had been successful at many things. And then, kind of went off, you know, quote unquote off the reservation and ended up up the river and they had to go find him. And the guy that went to find him, you know, it's kind of coming from nowhere, doesn't have the previous military success that you might attach to someone with a Rolex GMT versus the Seiko diver. The Seiko diver feels so purposeful and kind of highlights his character's inability to quit or slow down or even protect himself in the face of the mission. Like it's just this, pedal to the metal one rung of hell after another sort of film, um, that has these moments and these guys don't have a ton of stuff with them. Everything else they have with them is something the military gave them. Yeah. And I think that's why it's resounded. Obviously two incredibly famous wrists, you know, carried the, carried the watches through the film and that sort of thing. But two, two super cool things. I was lucky enough to hold and wear the GMT master before it was sold several years ago. uh, was able to put it on upside down under my wrist and get a photo like proper, proper Brando sort of stuff. And, uh, these, these watches are exceptionally cool. And I think among, uh, you know, we skipped a lot of the really high, you know, five star appearances of watches and movies, and we'll get to some of those in a moment. But I think that these really do represent the creme de la creme of like putting a watch in a movie and having it support a character and then having the watches become part of the cast of that film. you know, years and years later in a way that is probably otherwise only reserved for like a James Bond.
Jason Heaton Yeah. These are good picks. I mean, arguably obvious, but I think can't, can't not be mentioned. And I think you're, you're dead on here with, with your assessment because I, you know, the movie is, it's about sort of stripping these, these people naked and throwing them in the jungle. And like, they're, they're just basically there for survival. And yet the one, The one thing each of them has is a wristwatch that presumably they would have, their characters would have chosen personally and everything else, like you said, was just an issued something. Um, so yeah, there, there is a significance to that and, and both great watches. I do wonder, you know, now that Brando's Rolex turned up, you just have to wonder where that 6105.
James Stacy I hope someone has it is my answer. I'm fine with it never coming to light, but I hope it's not gone. I don't know, maybe sat in a drawer. That would be okay. As long as it was still around. Yeah. But yeah, so that's, uh, that is our five picks each for watches in movies. Jason, you started off with three days of the Condor and, uh, our guy wearing a Doxa 300. And then you went on to Casino Royale with the Omega planet ocean Dunkirk with the Omega CK 2129, the North sea hijack with a Seiko 7549 golden tuna. And then finally deliverance. with a very cool Sunto diving compass on a bun.
Jason Heaton And you started off with with Heat with Al Pacino's Bulgari Diagonal. Moved on to Alien with Ripley's Casio F100. Then Jason Bourne's Tag Heuer Link Chronograph. On to Firefox with Clint Eastwood's Rolex GMT-Master, the Root Beer variety. And finished up with a two watch pick from Apocalypse Now, the Seiko 6105 of Willard and the Rolex GMT-Master of Kurtz.
James Stacy So that's, uh, I think a solid 10 picks, you know, as far as the ones that we left on the table, probably the biggest would be the Submariner 6538 in Goldfinger, uh, pretty famous on the undersized strap and, you know, lighting it with the lighter to, to get a view of it. I think that that's probably one of the sort of biggest moments of a watch in a movie ever. Yeah. I would say, um, especially in a scenario where it's not like, um, As we're getting into picks, we didn't make like interstellar or tenant where like the watch is specifically tied to the plot. Yeah. Yeah. I think probably that 6538 is pretty high up there. What else do you figure we left on the list? Uh, as far as kind of big ones.
Jason Heaton Yeah, I had, I had that one of course, but I, I just wanted to leave it, you know, it just felt too obvious and everybody knows that and would have expected it. But I think the, the other one that I had in, in kind of in reserve was, Also a submariner, but it's a 5513. And this was from Jeff Bridges, his character in King Kong 1976. Oh yeah. Um, he plays a primatologist who, you know, goes to the Island where they're going to capture King Kong. Um, there's a kind of a famous photo of him with his Nikon kind of crouched behind a rock or something. And he's, he's got this, uh, this great, uh, 5513 on his wrist. Now, Jeff Bridges, obviously being the son of Lloyd Bridges, who was a diver and part of sea hunt, I believe, he had this connection with diving watches, uh, through his father. And he, he often does show up in films wearing an old Submariner. He was wearing one in a movie that, that we've talked about in the past. I believe it was on a film club against all odds. Um, he's also wearing a 55 13 on a bracelet and that one too. So he must've had a, must've had a thing for them. And it was definitely of that era. I mean, perfect, perfect prop for a character. Oh, for sure. Yeah.
James Stacy Yeah. And then we also have the Ulster Nautoscaff. in Jaws. This was like one of the big mysteries for a long time, and the watch has since been relaunched. But we had Richard Dreyfuss' character wearing that in Jaws. I think that's a pretty famous one. Although, I don't remember, I wasn't around. And Jason, if you were, you were exceptionally young. You may also not have been around when Alsta was really going. Yeah, no way. So I don't know how that what the story is behind that watch, how it entered that film, whether that was Dreyfus's or whether somebody handed it to him, it was on sort of a distinctive strap, which is part of what made the, the hunt for the idea of the watch. Uh, so interesting. So, I mean, that, that, that's certainly one, uh, I hinted at the Seiko X Gujaro, uh, 7A28 Seiko in aliens, the Vostok in life aquatic,
Jason Heaton How about the Orfina Porsche design in Top Gun?
James Stacy Top Gun and in Maverick. For sure. I'm not a huge fan of either of those films. I know that's an insane statement. People do really love them. I'm like, not lukewarm. It's warmer than lukewarm, but like, you know, I'm not crazy about them, but I love seeing that there. Yeah. The Tissot in Rear Window has always been a favorite of mine. You know, I grew up watching that movie and have a huge love of Jimmy Stewart and for him to be wearing this very cool, kind of dressy, kind of sporty. He's an automotive photographer. This is a guy I really wanted to be when I first saw the movie. And that watch is very cool. And then the other one that always stands out for me, and it was pretty tempting to pick it, would be Cary Grant's Oyster Royale in Charade, which makes a couple of appearances throughout the film, but is a very cool kind of weird model that kind of falls within like the OP family or the OP lineage, I guess. Yeah. Um, but as it was an oyster Royal, so.
Jason Heaton I mean, the list could go on and on. I love this merging of topics. I think, you know, we watch spotting and films is, is obviously gotten hugely popular and a lot of people are doing it and whatever, but I think to put our own spin on it, you know, to kind of try to go a little deeper with, with some of these and, and I even looking at our list, but the possible exceptions of, North Sea Hijack and Firefox, which are kind of weird, quirky films that I wouldn't necessarily call high on the list, but the others are solid movies in general. And I think this could have made a proper film club for that matter. And most of them have appeared on film club.
James Stacy So, yeah. And I mean the other one, I don't think we can close the show without saying, because it's one of my favorites, was also very tempting to pick was the Seiko H558 in Predator, the Arnie.
Jason Heaton Oh, of course.
James Stacy Yes. I love that movie. I think that movie has aged really well. If you haven't seen Predator in 20 years, go back and check it out, man. It's really good. And it's insane how many people in that film all went on to attempt public office. It's kind of a fun story there. Oh, that's great. Cause I believe four of them were either successful or attempted, including I think Bill Duke. Amazing. But yeah, just a really great movie and talk about a perfect piece of watch casting. to put the Arnie on, I mean, to put the 558 on, uh, on Schwarzenegger, who's obviously a huge watch guy. I'm sure there's an oral history to that decision, but I love, I love that movie. I love seeing that watch on his wrist. It's such a cool design. Yeah. The Arnie. And, uh, and it's so, it's just so of its era in a way that I don't want to look away from. And for me, it gives it like a whole UDT sort of cred. I love it.
Jason Heaton Yeah. It's great. Yeah. And, um, just popped into my head as a good choice for a character. Given Watches of Espionage's sketchy guys wear Breitling, Blood Diamond with Leonardo DiCaprio's, what is it, Chrono Avenger or Super Avenger, one of these big giant Breitlings, that's also a good pick.
James Stacy Yeah, so that is the first ever Watches in Movies draft. You know, if this becomes successful, I think we should probably like, if people end up liking this one, we should probably invite on a guest and do another, do another round at some point. Tom Place. Tom Place is probably perfect for it. He's he'd wipe the floor with us for sure. Watch spottings off the chart. So that's a great call. Tom, if you're listening offers open, especially if we can think of like a conceit. So we don't end up having to redo any of these 10 that we picked this time around, but Hey, Uh, show's moving along nice and quick here. Why don't we jump into some final notes and put a bow on it?
Jason Heaton Sure. Yeah. Um, my pick is one that I believe popped up in slack for a while there and I've got it in my queue. I started watching it. I have not finished it. Um, but it looks really promising and it's called the last of the sea women. It is on Apple TV. Um, it is the brief description on Apple TV says on the shores of Jeju Island, a fierce group of South Korean divers fight to save their vanishing culture from looming threats. I've watched the trailer, I've started the film, but I didn't get a chance to finish it. Um, but it is a documentary about these, uh, this dwindling group of, of women that, that dive for, um, I believe, you know, like urchins and abalone and things off the, off the coast of an Island in Korea that, um, are kind of starting to witness the changes due to climate change, et cetera. Um, and I think, you know, this is a story, you know, we've got the Ama divers in Japan and then the, these, the Hanyu divers in Korea, It's, it's this longstanding tradition of, of women who free dive, um, for food and, uh, and for, for a livelihood. And, you know, I've seen the, I've read a lot about them. I've, I've read articles and seen photos. I think what, what's strikes me about this is the, you know, the modern filmmaking of this just brings it into vibrant kind of high definition. And it's, it's really cool to see these, these in many cases, elderly women, you know, diving with very, kind of old ratty looking dive gear and the big, you know, oval pained dive masks and big thick suits and whatever. I mean, it's really impressive.
James Stacy So, yeah, check that out. They're like big single frame mass, but they've been retrofitted with some sort of like an elastic paracord, like a shock cord. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. Yeah. Really cool. I mean, gear for stuff like this is there's a whole story there as well. Not unlike what we've just been talking about with with watches being picked for movies and stuff. But I'm just watching the trailer without the sound on and I'm having trouble even paying attention to what you're saying. This movie looks incredible. Yeah, it does. Yeah. It looks really, really exciting. So I'm definitely going to check that out. The Last of the Sea Women.
Unknown Good pick. Yeah.
James Stacy Man, Apple TV's got some real good stuff right now. It really does. There's an incredible season of Slow Horses on the Apple TV topic. Really, really enjoyed every episode. Yeah. All right. Mine is a pick. Last week I spoke briefly about James Pumphrey, who left Donut and started this channel Speed with three E's on YouTube. And I believe I linked his Carhartt video. So basically he's doing every two weeks or so, like a long format could be 30 to 60 minutes, which is like a discussion or an investigation of a brand and the history of a brand and what's important about it. So he's done, like I mentioned last week, he's done Carhartt, which was amazing. Stussy, which was awesome. Nike SB, which is the, you know, Nike's push into skateboarding. Also a ton of stuff I didn't know there. Fascinating. And then even more into say my sort of general vibe. He did a whole video, an hour long video on the history of the Porsche GT3 RS. And it's fascinating. I think it's really well presented, but it gives you this whole story of what this is and why this car is such a hype thing now and how much of kind of a slow burn it was over the course of Porsche's, you know, the history of this company leading up to these RS products and then to the modern GT3 RS. And of course a new GT3 was launched just days ago, but the RS is this, again, this sort of separate thing, um, in the running. And it's just, if you, if you care even a little bit about either the brand side of it, like all the cool backstories, the oral histories, the previous models, that kind of stuff, fine. You'll really enjoy this. I don't actually know that you have to love Porsche or the GT3 RS to get something from this. It's just a fantastic visual essay. If you were previously a fan of the Up to Speed series that James did for Donut, it's like that, but dialed way up. They're longer. They're way more in-depth. They're a little bit less goofy. Still funny and still goofy, but a little bit less so than they were on Donut. And I just think they're doing a really, really incredible job with these storytelling. And the Carhartt one is really the one that kind of blew my socks off. Cause there was so little I knew about Carhartt. I just saw it as kind of like in some way, like an equal parts workwear and poser wear. And that's the most simplified way of looking at that. And I think he just does a really good job of, of kind of digging into this and he's starting to hint at doing stuff like Lyca and Rolex. And I'm very excited to see him approach those, those stories.
Jason Heaton Oh, this is great. Yeah. I'll check this out. I don't know much about the GT3 RS other than from what I've heard from you and, you know, seeing photos and things like that. So it'll be, it'll be a good education for me. Very cool.
James Stacy Yeah. It's a long one. So this is your, your Saturday evening or whatever with a, with a, you know, drink of your choice and that sort of thing, but it's a really, really good. I loved it.
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